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2014-05-18 04:52:18 PM  
That's impressive.  It's not easy to kile one person, let alone hundreds.

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2014-05-18 05:02:12 PM  
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2014-05-18 05:10:47 PM  
On the one hand, hundreds of people were killed.

On the other hand, they locked up all the lawyers.

It may be a wash here.
 
2014-05-18 05:40:10 PM  
www.soma.com
 
2014-05-18 05:46:25 PM  
I'm convinced that, within my lifetime, a raid on the offices of the ACLU will be upheld as legal and precedent-setting.
 
2014-05-18 05:53:39 PM  

OtherLittleGuy: I'm convinced that, within my lifetime, a raid on the offices of the ACLU will be upheld as legal and precedent-setting.


www.sandraoffthestrip.com
 
2014-05-18 06:12:30 PM  
Lawyers can't bring back the dead.
 
2014-05-18 06:30:18 PM  

TedCruz'sCrazyDad: Lawyers can't bring back the dead.


No, but a lawyer can act as a spiritual medium. "The victim has told me he wants his family to have 3.75 million Lira, and his attorney a well-earned 30%."

"Also, he wants me to tell his wife that he is ashamed that she is already seeing the rug merchant Bahri down the street. I am barely dead and buried, Nilay! Well, technically, buried and dead and buried, but that's not important. Have you no dignity, woman?"
 
2014-05-18 07:34:01 PM  
Soma was under complete lockdown

Inconsolable, but will probably pick the lock

www.wearysloth.com
 
2014-05-18 07:53:10 PM  
From the wiki:

Mining accidents are common in Turkey, which has poor mine-safety conditions.[13] According to a report issued in 2010 by the Turkish Economy Policies Research Foundation (TEPAV), in 2008, deaths per 1 million tons of coal mined were 7.22 in Turkey (the highest figure in the world), 5 times the rate in China (1.27) and 361 times the rate in the US (0.02)


I haven't been able to find any connection between the company or the CEO with the ruling party, though.
 
2014-05-18 08:00:46 PM  

OtherLittleGuy: I'm convinced that, within my lifetime, a raid on the offices of the ACLU will be upheld as legal and precedent-setting.


FYI this business is in Turkey.

Big-ass mine fire/accident.

And for those who aren't up on Turkish Politics, Turkey's currently got a party going on.  For starters, they want to join the Eurozone for that sweet sweet euro-cash, so capitalism is the answer to everything and when people are being abused it's because they suck not because the game is still rigged.  On follow up, while Prime MInister of Turkey Tayyip Edrogan is happy to give his rich cronies more power and take their money he's dragging his feet in all those OTHER eurozone requirements like not being a shiatty human rights disaster hole of a country.  He like his abuses and his government corruption because it lets him fire all the judges that try to bring charges against him and lets him take bribes from Al Qaeda.

Let's repeat that, he takes bribes from al qaeda.

They had some riots that Fark half-listened to, then they had some elections where half the ballot boxes STARTED at the place they were supposed to be counted and never left, and he's still in power.

Anyway, Right after the accident which is a total mystery and not at all caused by unbelievably unsafe mining practices Erdogan showed up for a rally, beat the shiat out of some protesters (here's his aide kicking a man while he was down) for giggles, and now since there are all these protesters around and shiat and PM ErectionErdogan is backing the mine owners (and their sweet, sweet bribe money) he's having to arrest any lawyers who might help the local workers organize and/or sue.

We're too busy being distracted by the fact that A: American oligarchs aren't sure who to root for and B: Ukraine involves White People and Russia instead of brown people and not-Russia.
 
2014-05-18 08:06:09 PM  

Cubicle Jockey: From the wiki:

Mining accidents are common in Turkey, which has poor mine-safety conditions.[13] According to a report issued in 2010 by the Turkish Economy Policies Research Foundation (TEPAV), in 2008, deaths per 1 million tons of coal mined were 7.22 in Turkey (the highest figure in the world), 5 times the rate in China (1.27) and 361 times the rate in the US (0.02)


I haven't been able to find any connection between the company or the CEO with the ruling party, though.


I generally don't care for Forbes as a source, but here's what they said:

...The government's supporters get sporadic infusions of subsidized coal from the party - yes, a kind of political bribe - and the Soma mine acts as the primary source for that supply.  And to top it off, the mine's owner is a close ally and supporter of the party. He couldn't be otherwise. The greatest crime committed by the likes of Putin and Erdogan is that they make large swaths of the population complicit in their corruption. They teach the country to live with and benefit from corruption. When hundreds of people die, AK party supporters are glad to be kept ignorant of the murky details.
 
2014-05-18 08:24:43 PM  
That the proletariat in America has been convinced that the lawyers are their enemy is easily one of the greatest accomplishments of the permanente riche.

The fact is, for all the scummy, back-of-the-phonebook, ambulance-chasing, "GET MONEY NOW" pieces of shiat there are out of there, trial lawyers and their ability to interpret law for us commoners remains one of the few great levelers between a rich man and a poor man. If it weren't for those few members of the legal profession who will take a poor man's case for nothing against a rich man's everything, there would be no bulwark at all anymore between us and the gilded elite.

/ and, yes, I RTFA and I'm fully aware it has nothing to do with the U.S.A. of America
// I'm also aware that "permanente rich" is not a valid French phrase
 
2014-05-18 08:27:53 PM  
Seems like Erdogan might be a better fit with Putin's Eurasian Union than the European Union.
 
2014-05-18 08:39:02 PM  

fusillade762: [www.soma.com image 803x325]


Nice bra, checking their site now.


Stop touching yourself.
 
2014-05-18 09:11:21 PM  

TheBigJerk: I generally don't care for Forbes as a source, but here's what they said:

...The government's supporters get sporadic infusions of subsidized coal from the party - yes, a kind of political bribe - and the Soma mine acts as the primary source for that supply.  And to top it off, the mine's owner is a close ally and supporter of the party. He couldn't be otherwise. The greatest crime committed by the likes of Putin and Erdogan is that they make large swaths of the population complicit in their corruption. They teach the country to live with and benefit from corruption. When hundreds of people die, AK party supporters are glad to be kept ignorant of the murky details.


BBC has reported that the owner of the mine is a party member and ally of Erogen.
 
2014-05-18 09:53:47 PM  
For more backstory, PM Erdogan has handled the whole tragedy very poorly, showed little sympathy toward the grieving families, and essentially said:  "shiat happens".

Then there's the matter of Erdogan's aide kicking one of the people who came out to protest the lame govt. response:

i28.photobucket.com

http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/pm-erdogans-adviser-sparks-outrage- fo r-kicking-mourner-amid-soma-protests.aspx?pageID=238&nID=66495&NewsCat ID=341

The PM is a complete asshole who behaves more like a dictator every day. Turkey deserves much better.

/not subby
 
2014-05-18 09:57:15 PM  

Cubicle Jockey: From the wiki:

Mining accidents are common in Turkey, which has poor mine-safety conditions.[13] According to a report issued in 2010 by the Turkish Economy Policies Research Foundation (TEPAV), in 2008, deaths per 1 million tons of coal mined were 7.22 in Turkey (the highest figure in the world), 5 times the rate in China (1.27) and 361 times the rate in the US (0.02)


I haven't been able to find any connection between the company or the CEO with the ruling party, though.


Mining is about the most unsafe profession in the world, and certainly the most hazardous routine profession out there (being an astronaut has more deaths per 100,000, but there aren't 100,000 astronauts on the whole planet). Places where marginal safety measures are routinely ignored in order to keep profits high, workers working, and technology low generally have more people in the mines than in the US--hence more people to die when a collapse happens. A cave-in is no deadlier in Turkey than in America; but they're going to have more people down in the mines to die from it.

With all that said, where there are payoffs between the government and the mine owners, there will be no incentive to make things even a little safer, which is why the United Mine Workers was unionized in West Virginia so many decades ago.
 
2014-05-18 10:01:59 PM  

skozlaw: That the proletariat in America has been convinced that the lawyers are their enemy is easily one of the greatest accomplishments of the permanente riche.

The fact is, for all the scummy, back-of-the-phonebook, ambulance-chasing, "GET MONEY NOW" pieces of shiat there are out of there, trial lawyers and their ability to interpret law for us commoners remains one of the few great levelers between a rich man and a poor man. If it weren't for those few members of the legal profession who will take a poor man's case for nothing against a rich man's everything, there would be no bulwark at all anymore between us and the gilded elite.

/ and, yes, I RTFA and I'm fully aware it has nothing to do with the U.S.A. of America
// I'm also aware that "permanente rich" is not a valid French phrase


If you ask people to identify by practice area the lawyers who they find most abhorrent, they are likely to mention criminal defense lawyers and plaintiffs' torts lawyers - in other words, exactly the kinds of lawyers which regular people are most likely to need and which specialize in representing individuals in disputes against large, powerful organizations.

Pure coincidence, I'm sure.
 
2014-05-18 10:04:47 PM  

cc_rider: For more backstory, PM Erdogan has handled the whole tragedy very poorly, showed little sympathy toward the grieving families, and essentially said:  "shiat happens".

Then there's the matter of Erdogan's aide kicking one of the people who came out to protest the lame govt. response:

[i28.photobucket.com image 626x470]

http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/pm-erdogans-adviser-sparks-outrage- fo r-kicking-mourner-amid-soma-protests.aspx?pageID=238&nID=66495&NewsCat ID=341

The PM is a complete asshole who behaves more like a dictator every day. Turkey deserves much better.

/not subby


Also said "those who criticize the government get slapped."
 
2014-05-18 10:09:26 PM  

BMulligan: skozlaw: That the proletariat in America has been convinced that the lawyers are their enemy is easily one of the greatest accomplishments of the permanente riche.

The fact is, for all the scummy, back-of-the-phonebook, ambulance-chasing, "GET MONEY NOW" pieces of shiat there are out of there, trial lawyers and their ability to interpret law for us commoners remains one of the few great levelers between a rich man and a poor man. If it weren't for those few members of the legal profession who will take a poor man's case for nothing against a rich man's everything, there would be no bulwark at all anymore between us and the gilded elite.

/ and, yes, I RTFA and I'm fully aware it has nothing to do with the U.S.A. of America
// I'm also aware that "permanente rich" is not a valid French phrase

If you ask people to identify by practice area the lawyers who they find most abhorrent, they are likely to mention criminal defense lawyers and plaintiffs' torts lawyers - in other words, exactly the kinds of lawyers which regular people are most likely to need and which specialize in representing individuals in disputes against large, powerful organizations.

Pure coincidence, I'm sure.


It could be.  The American public is stunningly retarded...they don't really need any help shooting themselves in the foot.

Which isn't to say they aren't getting that help anyway, of course.
 
2014-05-18 10:11:40 PM  
Locking up all the lawyers South of Market?  I'm good with this....
 
2014-05-18 11:03:31 PM  

BMulligan: skozlaw: That the proletariat in America has been convinced that the lawyers are their enemy is easily one of the greatest accomplishments of the permanente riche.

The fact is, for all the scummy, back-of-the-phonebook, ambulance-chasing, "GET MONEY NOW" pieces of shiat there are out of there, trial lawyers and their ability to interpret law for us commoners remains one of the few great levelers between a rich man and a poor man. If it weren't for those few members of the legal profession who will take a poor man's case for nothing against a rich man's everything, there would be no bulwark at all anymore between us and the gilded elite.

/ and, yes, I RTFA and I'm fully aware it has nothing to do with the U.S.A. of America
// I'm also aware that "permanente rich" is not a valid French phrase

If you ask people to identify by practice area the lawyers who they find most abhorrent, they are likely to mention criminal defense lawyers and plaintiffs' torts lawyers - in other words, exactly the kinds of lawyers which regular people are most likely to need and which specialize in representing individuals in disputes against large, powerful organizations.

Pure coincidence, I'm sure.


I personally have a think against prosecuting attorneys who are elected into office, because they will do whatever it takes to keep their office, even when doing so is utterly unethical. Not all of them, but enough to give all of them a black eye.
 
2014-05-18 11:40:13 PM  

Selena Luna: BMulligan: skozlaw: That the proletariat in America has been convinced that the lawyers are their enemy is easily one of the greatest accomplishments of the permanente riche.

The fact is, for all the scummy, back-of-the-phonebook, ambulance-chasing, "GET MONEY NOW" pieces of shiat there are out of there, trial lawyers and their ability to interpret law for us commoners remains one of the few great levelers between a rich man and a poor man. If it weren't for those few members of the legal profession who will take a poor man's case for nothing against a rich man's everything, there would be no bulwark at all anymore between us and the gilded elite.

/ and, yes, I RTFA and I'm fully aware it has nothing to do with the U.S.A. of America
// I'm also aware that "permanente rich" is not a valid French phrase

If you ask people to identify by practice area the lawyers who they find most abhorrent, they are likely to mention criminal defense lawyers and plaintiffs' torts lawyers - in other words, exactly the kinds of lawyers which regular people are most likely to need and which specialize in representing individuals in disputes against large, powerful organizations.

Pure coincidence, I'm sure.

I personally have a think against prosecuting attorneys who are elected into office, because they will do whatever it takes to keep their office, even when doing so is utterly unethical. Not all of them, but enough to give all of them a black eye.


Yeah, when I think about scummy lawyers it's usually prosecutors and divorce lawyers.
 
2014-05-19 01:33:28 AM  

fusillade762: Yeah, when I think about scummy lawyers it's usually prosecutors and divorce lawyers.


It's easy to pig pile on prosecutors because they dress badly and their job mostly consists of saying, "And then what happened, officer?", but it's an important job and I'm glad there are people who are well-suited to it because I'm certainly not. I did very, very little family law work when I was in active practice, but it was enough to convince me that it may be the most emotionally challenging practice area. All parties are under incredible stress and fear that they will lose access to the people in their lives who matter to them most, so everyone is on his or her worst behavior. They're in pain, and like wounded animals they want to lash out and inflict pain on others - and their lawyers are the tools they have available to do the job. I know people who do it and find it quite satisfying,  but they mostly think of their clients as utter basket cases, without exception.
 
2014-05-19 01:55:15 AM  
You know, we think if somebody kills someone, that's murder, you go to prison. You kill 10 people, you go to Texas, they hit you with a brick, that's what they do. 20 people, you go to a hospital, they look through a small window at you forever. And over that, we can't deal with it, you know? Someone's killed a few hundred people. We're almost going, "Well done! You killed a few hundred people? You must get up very early in the morning. I can't even get down the gym! Your diary must look odd: "Get up in the morning, death, death, death, death, death, death, death - lunch- death, death, death -afternoon tea - death, death, death - quick shower..."
 
2014-05-19 01:56:57 AM  
All lawyer suck donkey balls, it's just a question of which ones do it less and to the least detriment to society.

For instance, my boss who is a pretty nice guy mostly represents landlords in UD disputes and that might make him a not-so-nice attorney in some eyes; and there's a local firm that specializes exclusively in representing tenants which might seem on the surface makes them the good guys...until you find out that these scumsuckers troll the halls on a daily basis virtually guaranteeing their "clients" that they can keep them in their apartments, using boilerplate checklists to tie landlords up with bogus "habitability" claims and the courts with b/s "mold" and "harassment" allegations...and they scoop up their $500 from clients who mostly can't afford it anyway.

Everyone hates them, even the mostly decent tenants they purport to represent. So yeah, all attorneys are bottom feeders; some just stir the detritus more than others.
 
2014-05-19 02:05:47 AM  

Gyrfalcon: All lawyer suck donkey balls, it's just a question of which ones do it less and to the least detriment to society.

For instance, my boss who is a pretty nice guy mostly represents landlords in UD disputes and that might make him a not-so-nice attorney in some eyes; and there's a local firm that specializes exclusively in representing tenants which might seem on the surface makes them the good guys...until you find out that these scumsuckers troll the halls on a daily basis virtually guaranteeing their "clients" that they can keep them in their apartments, using boilerplate checklists to tie landlords up with bogus "habitability" claims and the courts with b/s "mold" and "harassment" allegations...and they scoop up their $500 from clients who mostly can't afford it anyway.

Everyone hates them, even the mostly decent tenants they purport to represent. So yeah, all attorneys are bottom feeders; some just stir the detritus more than others.


I'm sorry to hear you feel that way about me - I've always rather liked you.
 
2014-05-19 03:51:09 AM  

BMulligan: Gyrfalcon: All lawyer suck donkey balls, it's just a question of which ones do it less and to the least detriment to society.

For instance, my boss who is a pretty nice guy mostly represents landlords in UD disputes and that might make him a not-so-nice attorney in some eyes; and there's a local firm that specializes exclusively in representing tenants which might seem on the surface makes them the good guys...until you find out that these scumsuckers troll the halls on a daily basis virtually guaranteeing their "clients" that they can keep them in their apartments, using boilerplate checklists to tie landlords up with bogus "habitability" claims and the courts with b/s "mold" and "harassment" allegations...and they scoop up their $500 from clients who mostly can't afford it anyway.

Everyone hates them, even the mostly decent tenants they purport to represent. So yeah, all attorneys are bottom feeders; some just stir the detritus more than others.

I'm sorry to hear you feel that way about me - I've always rather liked you.


Hey, I'm one too (almost--failed the bar again goddamn it) but I have no illusions about my profession. I'm as skanky as the next legal professional.
 
2014-05-19 08:15:11 AM  

hardinparamedic: OtherLittleGuy: I'm convinced that, within my lifetime, a raid on the offices of the ACLU will be upheld as legal and precedent-setting.


Yeah, this is totally the Democrats' fault.
 
2014-05-19 08:31:07 AM  

Gyrfalcon: All lawyer suck donkey balls, it's just a question of which ones do it less and to the least detriment to society.

For instance, my boss who is a pretty nice guy mostly represents landlords in UD disputes and that might make him a not-so-nice attorney in some eyes; and there's a local firm that specializes exclusively in representing tenants which might seem on the surface makes them the good guys...until you find out that these scumsuckers troll the halls on a daily basis virtually guaranteeing their "clients" that they can keep them in their apartments, using boilerplate checklists to tie landlords up with bogus "habitability" claims and the courts with b/s "mold" and "harassment" allegations...and they scoop up their $500 from clients who mostly can't afford it anyway.

Everyone hates them, even the mostly decent tenants they purport to represent. So yeah, all attorneys are bottom feeders; some just stir the detritus more than others.


:(
My sister and my partner are both lawyers. They aren't bottom feeders. Believe it or not, a lot of lawyers are in the game simply to help people who need help.
 
2014-05-19 11:35:00 AM  
"The first thing we do, let's kill all the lawyers."  William Shakespeare, Henry the Sixth, Part II, IV, ii. Finally a chance to use this quote in its proper context....
 
2014-05-19 12:06:30 PM  

Snarfangel: TedCruz'sCrazyDad: Lawyers can't bring back the dead.

No, but a lawyer can act as a spiritual medium. "The victim has told me he wants his family to have 3.75 million Lira, and his attorney a well-earned 30%."

"Also, he wants me to tell his wife that he is ashamed that she is already seeing the rug merchant Bahri down the street. I am barely dead and buried, Nilay! Well, technically, buried and dead and buried, but that's not important. Have you no dignity, woman?"


I get you $3.75 million you didn;t have before, are you really enough of a stingy biatch to whine about my $1 million fee?  You are still well over 2 million to the good
 
2014-05-19 01:09:29 PM  

OtherLittleGuy: I'm convinced that, within my lifetime, a raid on the offices of the ACLU will be upheld as legal and precedent-setting.


Why bother?
 
2014-05-19 01:14:11 PM  

Magorn: I get you $3.75 million you didn;t have before, are you really enough of a stingy biatch to whine about my $1 million fee? You are still well over 2 million to the good


You didn't GET anything. Lawyers fill out the correct forms (sometimes) and show up for a few meetings. They should be paid a decent wage for their time.
 
2014-05-19 01:23:15 PM  

Without Fail: Magorn: I get you $3.75 million you didn;t have before, are you really enough of a stingy biatch to whine about my $1 million fee? You are still well over 2 million to the good

You didn't GET anything. Lawyers fill out the correct forms (sometimes) and show up for a few meetings. They should be paid a decent wage for their time.


and if you believe that, be sure and hire the cheapest lawyer you can find and tell me how that works out for ya
 
2014-05-19 02:02:39 PM  
just got back from the latest protests

/subby
 
2014-05-19 02:09:43 PM  
The entrance to the Soma Mine has been bricked up.  People are still unaccounted for.  What are they hiding in there?

http://www.opednews.com/articles/Crazy-Erdogan-Turkey-s-PM-by-Michae l- Collins-Disaster-Mining_Rejep-Tayyip-Erdogan_Turkey-140516-341.html
 
2014-05-19 04:32:17 PM  

Agarista: The entrance to the Soma Mine has been bricked up.  People are still unaccounted for.  What are they hiding in there?

http://www.opednews.com/articles/Crazy-Erdogan-Turkey-s-PM-by-Michae l- Collins-Disaster-Mining_Rejep-Tayyip-Erdogan_Turkey-140516-341.html


Isn't obvious? BENGHAZI!!!

/Study it out.
 
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