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(Info Wars)   Rio's new "World Cup" Police look exactly like secret police SWAT eams from Terry Gilliam's Brazil   (infowars.com) divider line 106
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2014-05-18 09:40:00 AM  
Don't Worry, the US is well on its way to building up its Police State too.   they have Capital to protect.
 
2014-05-18 09:40:30 AM  
I guess you'll want to pick up any empty cans laying on the ground, just in case.
 
2014-05-18 09:43:51 AM  
They also look like every riot cop everywhere.

/irony police assemble!
 
2014-05-18 09:44:00 AM  
Brazil

They're just nuts there...
 
2014-05-18 09:44:06 AM  
Infowars? I know Fark is Freeper Central these days, but come on...
 
2014-05-18 09:44:51 AM  
Pegue aquela lata!
 
2014-05-18 09:49:35 AM  
img.fark.net
Approves
 
2014-05-18 09:50:24 AM  
What's an "eam"?
 
2014-05-18 09:51:22 AM  
A reenactment of the move "Brazil" ... IN Brazil?

I approve.
 
2014-05-18 09:56:16 AM  
Is is just me or are these outfits increasingly designed to hide the wearers identity. It also makes it hard for the officer to communicate with the public increasing the risk of confrontation and violence.
 
2014-05-18 09:57:18 AM  
Linking to InfoWars is the internet equivalent of having "I'm a lunatic and I don't care" tattooed on your forehead.
 
2014-05-18 10:01:00 AM  
FTFA: The robocop suit weighs 22lb and is flame resistant to up to 427C. The National Post also made the comparison between the gear worn by Rio police and the most recent Robocop movie. In reality, the Rio robocops look far more intimidating than the character played by Joel Kinnaman.

Apparently I watched a different Robocop.
 
2014-05-18 10:02:07 AM  
Why they insist on holding tournaments for the world's most popular sports in the worst places is confusing.

Oh, they do it t because of bribes. Nevermind.
 
2014-05-18 10:02:13 AM  
Looks like we need to send a team over to Info Wars to fix the ducts again...
 
2014-05-18 10:03:38 AM  
Infowars.com?  Come on subby, you farkin suck.
 
2014-05-18 10:03:48 AM  

jamspoon: Is is just me or are these outfits increasingly designed to hide the wearers identity. It also makes it hard for the officer to communicate with the public increasing the risk of confrontation and violence.


I don't think a drug lord with an AK-47 is going to worry too much about identifying and communicating with the police.
 
2014-05-18 10:06:04 AM  
Nothing requires the protection of heavily-armed soldiers and "police" than an event where two groups of men kick a ball around on the grass.
 
2014-05-18 10:07:12 AM  
Hold on, let me look up some Max Payne 3 quotes about the UFE.
 
2014-05-18 10:07:15 AM  
Wow, a riot/ SWAT wearing all black looks like a movie version or every single other riot / SWAT team uniform over the last 30 years! These people are onto something. Terry Gilliam is a prophet!*

*Don't get me wrong, I love Terry Gilliam movies. Just mocking the writer of article.
 
2014-05-18 10:09:22 AM  
At this point, we're just a quick hop on to Narcolumbia.
 
2014-05-18 10:11:10 AM  
SWAT eams are the worse
 
2014-05-18 10:14:03 AM  

shastacola: Linking to InfoWars is the internet equivalent of having "I'm a lunatic and I don't care" tattooed on your forehead.


BumpInTheNight: Infowars.com?  Come on subby, you farkin suck.


Is there some Poe's law equivalent?  If you post a link to one of Alex Jones websites you are marked with a scarlet I for Idiot?
 
2014-05-18 10:14:42 AM  

FriarReb98: What's an "eam"?


As if the link was posted by Alex Jones himself.
 
2014-05-18 10:16:56 AM  

Pattuq: Nothing requires the protection of heavily-armed soldiers and "police" than an event where two groups of men kick a ball around on the grass.


Have you seen what happens at soccer games? Those fans are mental.
 
2014-05-18 10:18:05 AM  
A: Infowars? Really? Ugh. I'm about as libertarian as they come, but Alex Jones is a certified nutjob.

B: Sooo...a SWAT team looks exactly like a SWAT team? This is a story?

C: Yes the militarization of police worldwide and in the US is an increasing problem. But there is a niche need to SWAT teams that isn't going away. And those teams pretty much do need to have that gear and weapons to do their job. The real problem is twofold. The increasing use of SWAT teams for jobs that don't really need them, and the militarization of regular patrol officers. I get having a go bag in the trunk with some tactical gear for immediate response to active shooter scenarios, and I get having a patrol rifle in the car like an AR-15. But the average office is likely to encounter a real need to pull that stuff out a handful of times over his entire career. It's very distressing that more and more officers are going the "tacticool" route for regular patrols.

\Current military
\\And current police officer
 
2014-05-18 10:19:33 AM  

Mouser: jamspoon: Is is just me or are these outfits increasingly designed to hide the wearers identity. It also makes it hard for the officer to communicate with the public increasing the risk of confrontation and violence.

I don't think a drug lord with an AK-47 is going to worry too much about identifying and communicating with the police.


Actually, they are. This trend started in Asia where drug lords started going after the families of special police units and kidnapping, torturing, killing etc in reprisal for enforcement activities. Same in Mexico.

That spread PDQ to radical Islamists and is the reason Paki SF units took to wearing balaclavas and not showing their faces in the news, so as to avoid going ro work and coming home to fresh wife-and-child salad.

Now its a bit of a trend around the world where gangs and law enforcement are a little more evenly matched than we are used to.
 
2014-05-18 10:22:31 AM  

Pattuq: Nothing requires the protection of heavily-armed soldiers and "police" than an event where two groups of men kick a ball around on the grass.


Strangely enough, the audience for said contest seems to very often contain an even larger percentage of the sort of people one might expect to find among the crowd at a 49ers vs. Raiders game.
 
2014-05-18 10:23:29 AM  
I've never seen Brazil. Nor do I think those outfits are any different from riot police anywhere.
 
2014-05-18 10:23:43 AM  

skinink: Why they insist on holding tournaments for the world's most popular sports in the worst places is confusing.

Oh, they do it t because of bribes. Nevermind.


My honest to God take on this?
The extreme opposite.

It's to dangle the possibility of growth in jobs and infrastructure for a country, then every once in a while threaten to pull the games whenever you want that country to make certain political decisions.

See South Africa, Brazil and Qatar as recent examples.

/"that's a nice stimulus program you've got going there...would be a shame if something would happen to it"
//not saying there aren't bribes
///olé, olé olé ooolé
 
2014-05-18 10:24:07 AM  
Was Sunset Sam involved?
 
2014-05-18 10:25:55 AM  

Linux_Yes: Don't Worry, the US is well on its way to building up its Police State too.   they have Capital to protect.


I'm Hiding behind My Couch right Now with my 17 assault Rifles at The ready to defend myself from Obama's jackbooted Thugs to coming to take Away my 17 Assault rifles.
 
2014-05-18 10:26:42 AM  
TFA is dead right.  I really dislike Alex Jones, though - should be called DisInfoWars.
 
2014-05-18 10:28:47 AM  

CruJones: They also look like every riot cop everywhere.

/irony police assemble!


Yes, they do. And if you happen to live in any city that's hosted a G20 summit, that ain't nothin'.
 
2014-05-18 10:29:06 AM  

Cthulhain: Infowars? I know Fark is Freeper Central these days, but come on...


I was wondering how many posts and it only took 5.

Look. AJ is a bag full of crazy. We all know that. But, he does produce some interesting content if you can filter out the hysterics.
 
2014-05-18 10:33:02 AM  
They should've gone with (speaking of Terry Gilliam):

c2.staticflickr.com
 
2014-05-18 10:39:10 AM  

cameroncrazy1984: I've never seen Brazil. Nor do I think those outfits are any different from riot police anywhere.


i478.photobucket.com



Go watch it! NOW!!!

 
2014-05-18 10:39:18 AM  
skinink:

Why they insist on holding tournaments for the world's most popular sports in the worst places is confusing.

Oh, they do it t because of bribes. Nevermind.


Yeah, it's not like football is a big deal in Brazil or anything.
 
2014-05-18 10:41:01 AM  
Damnit, I didn't read where the link went to. That's like rule number one here.
 
2014-05-18 10:44:22 AM  
Wake me when the Steampunk/Dieselpunk SWAT team shows up.

fc00.deviantart.net
 
2014-05-18 10:46:49 AM  
Where's the browser add-on that removes InfoWars and Opposing Views links from Fark?
 
2014-05-18 10:55:17 AM  
They all know that they switched to metric, right? Hate to see some of them carrying around outdated hole covers.
 
2014-05-18 11:00:19 AM  

phenn: But, he does produce some interesting content if you can filter out the hysterics. your capacity for critical thinking.

 
2014-05-18 11:03:02 AM  

CruJones: They also look like every riot cop everywhere.


Well yeah but you can't tie in the whole Dystopian Future meme unless you use a movie reference.
 
2014-05-18 11:04:48 AM  

phenn: But, he does produce some interesting content if you can filter out the hysterics.


If you filter out the hysterics there is nothing left.
 
2014-05-18 11:05:40 AM  

Pattuq: Nothing requires the protection of heavily-armed soldiers and "police" than an event where two groups of men kick a ball around on the grass.


You don't know much about world soccer matches, do you?
 
2014-05-18 11:06:05 AM  
I was doing the tourist thing in Nepal a few years back right around the anniversary of China eating Tibet.

Nepal is VERY sensitive about this, being a tiny little country wedged between the hammer of China and the anvil of India, and having a big Tibetan ex-pat population. So there was a huge police presence at all the Buddhist holy sites. You'd be wandering around a stupa and happen upon a bunch of guys decked out in camo chilling out with riot shields and automatic rifles.

Was slightly weird.
 
2014-05-18 11:07:10 AM  

FriarReb98: What's an "eam"?


There is no "I" in eam!
 
2014-05-18 11:13:24 AM  

taurusowner: A: Infowars? Really? Ugh. I'm about as libertarian as they come, but Alex Jones is a certified nutjob.

B: Sooo...a SWAT team looks exactly like a SWAT team? This is a story?

C: Yes the militarization of police worldwide and in the US is an increasing problem. But there is a niche need to SWAT teams that isn't going away. And those teams pretty much do need to have that gear and weapons to do their job. The real problem is twofold. The increasing use of SWAT teams for jobs that don't really need them, and the militarization of regular patrol officers. I get having a go bag in the trunk with some tactical gear for immediate response to active shooter scenarios, and I get having a patrol rifle in the car like an AR-15. But the average office is likely to encounter a real need to pull that stuff out a handful of times over his entire career. It's very distressing that more and more officers are going the "tacticool" route for regular patrols.

\Current military
\\And current police officer


I like it. At least now their contempt for the populace is on open display. I've had very little luck with the police, in spite of always being polite and respectful. Whether calling on them for help, encountering a cop randomly on the street or being pulled over. I'm having a hard time figuring out what it is they are supposed to be doing for me. I've called for vandalized property, they showed up at the wrong address. I was assaulted with a weapon, they did nothing except run my license and question me about my brother's concealed carry permit (came up in the search). I asked for directions and was scoffed at. I've never received the follow up calls they promise to make. I am trying to think of a time that interacting with the police had a positive result and I am coming up blank. In addition to being ineffectual, they've always made a point of ordering me around, lecturing me or otherwise talking down to me.

This is in multiple cities and states. I'm in my late 30s and have a white-collar office job. I don't have any visible tattoos. I am a white male. I've never sassed or smarted off to a cop in my life.

Maybe if the cops looked scarier somebody would start asking questions and make some reforms.
 
2014-05-18 11:14:26 AM  

Linux_Yes: Don't Worry, the US is well on its way to building up its Police State too.   they have Capital to protect.


True, and our uniforms are spiffier.

img.fark.net
 
2014-05-18 11:20:19 AM  
There's no 'I' in team, and apparently, no "T" either.
 
2014-05-18 11:24:19 AM  
Alanis Morissette approves of this tag, subby.
 
2014-05-18 11:27:51 AM  

mccallcl: taurusowner: A: Infowars? Really? Ugh. I'm about as libertarian as they come, but Alex Jones is a certified nutjob.

B: Sooo...a SWAT team looks exactly like a SWAT team? This is a story?

C: Yes the militarization of police worldwide and in the US is an increasing problem. But there is a niche need to SWAT teams that isn't going away. And those teams pretty much do need to have that gear and weapons to do their job. The real problem is twofold. The increasing use of SWAT teams for jobs that don't really need them, and the militarization of regular patrol officers. I get having a go bag in the trunk with some tactical gear for immediate response to active shooter scenarios, and I get having a patrol rifle in the car like an AR-15. But the average office is likely to encounter a real need to pull that stuff out a handful of times over his entire career. It's very distressing that more and more officers are going the "tacticool" route for regular patrols.

\Current military
\\And current police officer

I like it. At least now their contempt for the populace is on open display. I've had very little luck with the police, in spite of always being polite and respectful. Whether calling on them for help, encountering a cop randomly on the street or being pulled over. I'm having a hard time figuring out what it is they are supposed to be doing for me. I've called for vandalized property, they showed up at the wrong address. I was assaulted with a weapon, they did nothing except run my license and question me about my brother's concealed carry permit (came up in the search). I asked for directions and was scoffed at. I've never received the follow up calls they promise to make. I am trying to think of a time that interacting with the police had a positive result and I am coming up blank. In addition to being ineffectual, they've always made a point of ordering me around, lecturing me or otherwise talking down to me.

This is in multiple cities and states. I'm in my late 30s ...


Weirdly, I am also a white male and I have had literally the exact opposite experience with cops as you have. Maybe wherever you live just sucks.
 
2014-05-18 11:29:06 AM  

Fark like a Barsoomian: Alanis Morissette approves of this tag, subby.


I think even Alanis would make fun of it.
 
2014-05-18 11:36:17 AM  

mccallcl: I like it. At least now their contempt for the populace is on open display. I've had very little luck with the police, in spite of always being polite and respectful. Whether calling on them for help, encountering a cop randomly on the street or being pulled over. I'm having a hard time figuring out what it is they are supposed to be doing for me. I've called for vandalized property, they showed up at the wrong address. I was assaulted with a weapon, they did nothing except run my license and question me about my brother's concealed carry permit (came up in the search). I asked for directions and was scoffed at. I've never received the follow up calls they promise to make. I am trying to think of a time that interacting with the police had a positive result and I am coming up blank. In addition to being ineffectual, they've always made a point of ordering me around, lecturing me or otherwise talking down to me.

This is in multiple cities and states. I'm in my late 30s and have a white-collar office job. I don't have any visible tattoos. I am a white male. I've never sassed or smarted off to a cop in my life.


Yeah, you're a regular Wally Cleaver...whose sh*t gets vandalized, gets assaulted with a weapon, who lives with his gun-concealing brother, who rolls up on cops to ask directions, and doesn't seem to understand the nature of urgent communication when it comes to responding policemen, AND who sees no problem with insisting that the police should be polite to him because he's white and works in and office and has no tattoos.

Yeah, I can't imagine why anyone would think you're a twat.
 
2014-05-18 11:38:27 AM  

way south: Linux_Yes: Don't Worry, the US is well on its way to building up its Police State too.   they have Capital to protect.

True, and our uniforms are spiffier.


Heh... my father was in the National Guard during the MLK riots. Whenever I hear some Bundy-type "patriot" talk about how the actual well-regulated militia would side with them, I laugh.
 
2014-05-18 11:38:31 AM  
I prefer rt for the derp lulz. Infowars hurts my brain
 
2014-05-18 11:44:39 AM  
What we need is better movies!
 
2014-05-18 11:47:40 AM  

skinink: Why they insist on holding tournaments for the world's most popular sports in the worst places is confusing.

Oh, they do it t because of bribes. Nevermind.


Like when they held the World Cup in USA in 1994 or the Olympics in 1996 or the Olympics of 2012 in London or the 2006 Worldcup in Germany or the 2002 Worldcup in Japan/SKorea or the 1998 Worldcup in France...

Also, Brazil is the 7th biggest economy in the world and has experienced massive growth in the last 20 years.

In short: Shut the fark up about things you clearly have zero knowledge about.
 
2014-05-18 11:49:46 AM  

thamike: mccallcl: I like it. At least now their contempt for the populace is on open display. I've had very little luck with the police, in spite of always being polite and respectful. Whether calling on them for help, encountering a cop randomly on the street or being pulled over. I'm having a hard time figuring out what it is they are supposed to be doing for me. I've called for vandalized property, they showed up at the wrong address. I was assaulted with a weapon, they did nothing except run my license and question me about my brother's concealed carry permit (came up in the search). I asked for directions and was scoffed at. I've never received the follow up calls they promise to make. I am trying to think of a time that interacting with the police had a positive result and I am coming up blank. In addition to being ineffectual, they've always made a point of ordering me around, lecturing me or otherwise talking down to me.

This is in multiple cities and states. I'm in my late 30s and have a white-collar office job. I don't have any visible tattoos. I am a white male. I've never sassed or smarted off to a cop in my life.

Yeah, you're a regular Wally Cleaver...whose sh*t gets vandalized, gets assaulted with a weapon, who lives with his gun-concealing brother, who rolls up on cops to ask directions, and doesn't seem to understand the nature of urgent communication when it comes to responding policemen, AND who sees no problem with insisting that the police should be polite to him because he's white and works in and office and has no tattoos.

Yeah, I can't imagine why anyone would think you're a twat.


You seem much more twattish than him.
 
2014-05-18 12:02:16 PM  

willfullyobscure: Mouser: jamspoon: Is is just me or are these outfits increasingly designed to hide the wearers identity. It also makes it hard for the officer to communicate with the public increasing the risk of confrontation and violence.

I don't think a drug lord with an AK-47 is going to worry too much about identifying and communicating with the police.

Actually, they are. This trend started in Asia where drug lords started going after the families of special police units and kidnapping, torturing, killing etc in reprisal for enforcement activities. Same in Mexico.

That spread PDQ to radical Islamists and is the reason Paki SF units took to wearing balaclavas and not showing their faces in the news, so as to avoid going ro work and coming home to fresh wife-and-child salad.

Now its a bit of a trend around the world where gangs and law enforcement are a little more evenly matched than we are used to.


My problem is the use the SWAT team for crowd control. Their training is para-military not policing and their level of force goes from zero to max with little in between. Fine where appropriate, but not for policing a crowd of drunken sports fans.

A friend of mine used to be in the police and he said they kept a van of animals (his word) in reserve when policing sports events. If things got out of control, particularly with visiting fans looking for a fight, they let them loose to restore order. Under normal circumstances they stayed in the van as they were likely to cause more problems than they solved. Policing is all about using a measured response to restore order with the minimum of conflict.
 
2014-05-18 12:04:57 PM  

shastacola: Linking to InfoWars is the internet equivalent of having "I'm a lunatic and I don't care" tattooed on your forehead.


Meh, I prefer "poor impulse control"
 
2014-05-18 12:06:13 PM  

rocky_howard: In short: Shut the fark up about things you clearly have zero knowledge about.


www.dadychery.org

thomaspmbarnett.com
4.bp.blogspot.com
farm4.staticflickr.com

Nubian please! Brazil has some next level slums that they are frantically trying to paint over in time for the games.
 
2014-05-18 12:07:48 PM  
i44.photobucket.com

The SWAT teams here in the US look so much more friendlier.
 
2014-05-18 12:13:02 PM  
skinink: Why they insist on holding tournaments for the world's most popular sports in the worst places is confusing.

I am looking forward to having the World Cup in Brazil. The World Cup is not just people playing soccer, it's an international month long party. And if there are two things that Brazilians do very well, it's to play soccer and throw one hell of a good party. I have a feeling that this one is going to be something special.
 
2014-05-18 12:15:12 PM  

Monkeyhouse Zendo: rocky_howard: In short: Shut the fark up about things you clearly have zero knowledge about.

[www.dadychery.org image 500x333]

[thomaspmbarnett.com image 300x376]
[4.bp.blogspot.com image 500x333]
[farm4.staticflickr.com image 500x331]

Nubian please! Brazil has some next level slums that they are frantically trying to paint over in time for the games.


Your point being? That retard said "why do they insist in placing the biggest sports events in the worst places" when in reality they've been taking place in nice countries since forever.

Only a couple of times they have veered into "questionnable" countries but then again, Brazil is not only the biggest winner in Worldcups, they're also the 7th economy of the world, so that's why.

Rio slums are irrelevant, those people were there before Brazil's economy exploded.
 
2014-05-18 12:23:57 PM  

jamspoon: Is is just me or are these outfits increasingly designed to hide the wearers identity. It also makes it hard for the officer to communicate with the public increasing the risk of confrontation and violence.


To be fair, they're not paid to communicate.

Their guns are very visible.
 
2014-05-18 12:25:58 PM  

jamspoon: willfullyobscure: Mouser: jamspoon: Is is just me or are these outfits increasingly designed to hide the wearers identity. It also makes it hard for the officer to communicate with the public increasing the risk of confrontation and violence.

I don't think a drug lord with an AK-47 is going to worry too much about identifying and communicating with the police.

Actually, they are. This trend started in Asia where drug lords started going after the families of special police units and kidnapping, torturing, killing etc in reprisal for enforcement activities. Same in Mexico.

That spread PDQ to radical Islamists and is the reason Paki SF units took to wearing balaclavas and not showing their faces in the news, so as to avoid going ro work and coming home to fresh wife-and-child salad.

Now its a bit of a trend around the world where gangs and law enforcement are a little more evenly matched than we are used to.

My problem is the use the SWAT team for crowd control. Their training is para-military not policing and their level of force goes from zero to max with little in between. Fine where appropriate, but not for policing a crowd of drunken sports fans.

A friend of mine used to be in the police and he said they kept a van of animals (his word) in reserve when policing sports events. If things got out of control, particularly with visiting fans looking for a fight, they let them loose to restore order. Under normal circumstances they stayed in the van as they were likely to cause more problems than they solved. Policing is all about using a measured response to restore order with the minimum of conflict.


Huh.

Well, at least they're self aware. They know that they are dicks.
 
2014-05-18 12:37:14 PM  

way south: Linux_Yes: Don't Worry, the US is well on its way to building up its Police State too.   they have Capital to protect.

True, and our uniforms are spiffier.


I'm going to a double feature of Brazil and THX 1138 tonight so this thread is oddly prescient.
 
2014-05-18 12:43:26 PM  

way south: Linux_Yes: Don't Worry, the US is well on its way to building up its Police State too.   they have Capital to protect.


True, and our uniforms are spiffier.


[img.fark.net image 850x361]



www.assembleafterdark.com
 
2014-05-18 12:50:19 PM  
ts3.mm.bing.net
Do they has pepper spray?
 
2014-05-18 01:13:35 PM  

BitwiseShift: Wake me when the Steampunk/Dieselpunk SWAT team shows up.

[fc00.deviantart.net image 481x720]


Let me sleep through whatever that is
 
2014-05-18 01:16:40 PM  

shastacola: Linking to InfoWars is the internet equivalent of having "I'm a lunatic and I don't care" tattooed on your forehead.


http://www.infowars.com/
http://www.reddit.com/
http://www.4chan.org/
http://9gag.com/
http://www.fark.com/
http://knowyourmeme.com/
http://tvtropes.org/
http://www.freerepublic.com/
http://www.27bslash6.com/
http://theoatmeal.com/
http://www.theonion.com/
http://www.shotgunrules.com/
http://www.molvania.com/
http://www.dlanham.com/
 "Throwing away unfetchable URL http://memegenerator.net/: 403 Not allowed "


It seems that some sites even Fark won't link to, yet Infowars and Reddit aren't in that category. Amusing.
 
2014-05-18 01:26:52 PM  

taurusowner: A: Infowars? Really? Ugh. I'm about as libertarian as they come, but Alex Jones is a certified nutjob.

B: Sooo...a SWAT team looks exactly like a SWAT team? This is a story?

C: Yes the militarization of police worldwide and in the US is an increasing problem. But there is a niche need to SWAT teams that isn't going away. And those teams pretty much do need to have that gear and weapons to do their job. The real problem is twofold. The increasing use of SWAT teams for jobs that don't really need them, and the militarization of regular patrol officers. I get having a go bag in the trunk with some tactical gear for immediate response to active shooter scenarios, and I get having a patrol rifle in the car like an AR-15. But the average office is likely to encounter a real need to pull that stuff out a handful of times over his entire career. It's very distressing that more and more officers are going the "tacticool" route for regular patrols.

\Current military
\\And current police officer


You need to get promoted.

The need for swat, personnel carriers, helicopters and the like can not justify the expense so their scope has been expanded, many times to a absurd degree. Part of the problem is the feds throwing tons of grant money at law enforcement expressly for such purposes. Unfortunately, law enforcement is all to willing to play along. Ignorant or unwilling to give up playing g.i. joe and at least discuss the blurring line between military and police.
 
2014-05-18 01:33:57 PM  

cameroncrazy1984: I've never seen Brazil. Nor do I think those outfits are any different from riot police anywhere.


That's because the picture in the article is a wrong one. The real outfit actually looks like this.

wpmedia.news.nationalpost.com
 
2014-05-18 01:44:47 PM  

rocky_howard: Your point being? That retard said "why do they insist in placing the biggest sports events in the worst places" when in reality they've been taking place in nice countries since forever.


My point is that by many measures Brazil hardly counts as a first world nation and has a pretty extreme case of stratification of wealth and rampant poverty.

Only a couple of times they have veered into "questionnable" countries but then again, Brazil is not only the biggest winner in Worldcups, they're also the 7th economy of the world, so that's why.

Rio slums are irrelevant, those people were there before Brazil's economy exploded.


I guess size of the economy is the way we allocate indulgences in the international community. That's good to know. Remember kids, if an economy explodes, you're not responsibly for ensuring that all your people benefit from it. You can always build walls around the slums.
 
2014-05-18 01:58:07 PM  
The REF is here,
Waiting for the coin toss....
img.fark.net
 
2014-05-18 02:03:07 PM  

Apeboy: You need to get promoted.


Well thanks. Unfortunately I just left my old dept and moved across the country. So my time in service with my new dept is back to 0. But it's a fairly large agency so there is a lot of room for mobility.
 
2014-05-18 02:11:21 PM  
Oh, by the way, was it
Tuttle or Buttle?
img.fark.netimg.fark.net
 
2014-05-18 02:18:55 PM  

noitsnot: thamike: mccallcl: I like it. At least now their contempt for the populace is on open display. I've had very little luck with the police, in spite of always being polite and respectful. Whether calling on them for help, encountering a cop randomly on the street or being pulled over. I'm having a hard time figuring out what it is they are supposed to be doing for me. I've called for vandalized property, they showed up at the wrong address. I was assaulted with a weapon, they did nothing except run my license and question me about my brother's concealed carry permit (came up in the search). I asked for directions and was scoffed at. I've never received the follow up calls they promise to make. I am trying to think of a time that interacting with the police had a positive result and I am coming up blank. In addition to being ineffectual, they've always made a point of ordering me around, lecturing me or otherwise talking down to me.

This is in multiple cities and states. I'm in my late 30s and have a white-collar office job. I don't have any visible tattoos. I am a white male. I've never sassed or smarted off to a cop in my life.

Yeah, you're a regular Wally Cleaver...whose sh*t gets vandalized, gets assaulted with a weapon, who lives with his gun-concealing brother, who rolls up on cops to ask directions, and doesn't seem to understand the nature of urgent communication when it comes to responding policemen, AND who sees no problem with insisting that the police should be polite to him because he's white and works in and office and has no tattoos.

Yeah, I can't imagine why anyone would think you're a twat.

You seem much more twattish than him.


Agee
 
2014-05-18 02:39:15 PM  

thamike: mccallcl: I like it. At least now their contempt for the populace is on open display. I've had very little luck with the police, in spite of always being polite and respectful. Whether calling on them for help, encountering a cop randomly on the street or being pulled over. I'm having a hard time figuring out what it is they are supposed to be doing for me. I've called for vandalized property, they showed up at the wrong address. I was assaulted with a weapon, they did nothing except run my license and question me about my brother's concealed carry permit (came up in the search). I asked for directions and was scoffed at. I've never received the follow up calls they promise to make. I am trying to think of a time that interacting with the police had a positive result and I am coming up blank. In addition to being ineffectual, they've always made a point of ordering me around, lecturing me or otherwise talking down to me.

This is in multiple cities and states. I'm in my late 30s and have a white-collar office job. I don't have any visible tattoos. I am a white male. I've never sassed or smarted off to a cop in my life.

Yeah, you're a regular Wally Cleaver...whose sh*t gets vandalized, gets assaulted with a weapon, who lives with his gun-concealing brother, who rolls up on cops to ask directions, and doesn't seem to understand the nature of urgent communication when it comes to responding policemen, AND who sees no problem with insisting that the police should be polite to him because he's white and works in and office and has no tattoos.

Yeah, I can't imagine why anyone would think you're a twat.


Cops showing up to the wrong address doesn't have anything to do with me. The point is, I've never been disrespectful and don't fit any racial or other profile.

I have come to the conclusion that cops are just dicks, and something about their job or qualifying for the job makes 'em that way. I do expect people to be polite and respectful, and I was taught that the police are there to help. It's taken almost 30 years, but I've finally given up and just avoid the police at all costs. I don't even bother calling them to report a crime, which seems like what they would prefer anyway.

Cops are useless to me, and I suspect I'm not alone. Sorry if that made you mad. Relax.
 
2014-05-18 03:07:43 PM  

taurusowner: A: Infowars? Really? Ugh. I'm about as libertarian as they come, but Alex Jones is a certified nutjob.

B: Sooo...a SWAT team looks exactly like a SWAT team? This is a story?

C: Yes the militarization of police worldwide and in the US is an increasing problem. But there is a niche need to SWAT teams that isn't going away. And those teams pretty much do need to have that gear and weapons to do their job. The real problem is twofold. The increasing use of SWAT teams for jobs that don't really need them, and the militarization of regular patrol officers. I get having a go bag in the trunk with some tactical gear for immediate response to active shooter scenarios, and I get having a patrol rifle in the car like an AR-15. But the average office is likely to encounter a real need to pull that stuff out a handful of times over his entire career. It's very distressing that more and more officers are going the "tacticool" route for regular patrols.

\Current military
\\And current police officer


If your SWAT teams are really carrying fragmentation grenades, I think that is a problem.  It's pretty clear that whatever weapons are at hand will get used, and that there's very little concern about collateral damage.

How long until RPGs are considered normal for Officers to use?  I bet y'all could get some surplus M72s or light armor?
 
2014-05-18 03:26:52 PM  

varmitydog: skinink: Why they insist on holding tournaments for the world's most popular sports in the worst places is confusing.

I am looking forward to having the World Cup in Brazil. The World Cup is not just people playing soccer, it's an international month long party. And if there are two things that Brazilians do very well, it's to play soccer and throw one hell of a good party. I have a feeling that this one is going to be something special.


I just got all my shots for it last week. The yellow fever injection site still itches a bit.

The one souvenir I don't want is dengue. :(
 
2014-05-18 03:53:36 PM  

Linux_Yes: Don't Worry, the US is well on its way to building up its Police State too.   they have Capital to protect.


Don't you mean "the capitol"...hey..wait...
 
2014-05-18 05:41:28 PM  

Monkeyhouse Zendo: You can always build walls around the slums.


Or, in this case, bulldoze the slums and build a giant stadium and attendant hotels, restaurants, nightclubs, etc.

I hope the whole pageant burns to the ground.
 
2014-05-18 05:59:29 PM  

elbows_deep_silent_queef: http://www.27bslash6.com/


neverpedia.com

sees what you did there
 
2014-05-18 06:39:53 PM  

mccallcl: thamike: mccallcl: I like it. At least now their contempt for the populace is on open display. I've had very little luck with the police, in spite of always being polite and respectful. Whether calling on them for help, encountering a cop randomly on the street or being pulled over. I'm having a hard time figuring out what it is they are supposed to be doing for me. I've called for vandalized property, they showed up at the wrong address. I was assaulted with a weapon, they did nothing except run my license and question me about my brother's concealed carry permit (came up in the search). I asked for directions and was scoffed at. I've never received the follow up calls they promise to make. I am trying to think of a time that interacting with the police had a positive result and I am coming up blank. In addition to being ineffectual, they've always made a point of ordering me around, lecturing me or otherwise talking down to me.

This is in multiple cities and states. I'm in my late 30s and have a white-collar office job. I don't have any visible tattoos. I am a white male. I've never sassed or smarted off to a cop in my life.

Yeah, you're a regular Wally Cleaver...whose sh*t gets vandalized, gets assaulted with a weapon, who lives with his gun-concealing brother, who rolls up on cops to ask directions, and doesn't seem to understand the nature of urgent communication when it comes to responding policemen, AND who sees no problem with insisting that the police should be polite to him because he's white and works in and office and has no tattoos.

Yeah, I can't imagine why anyone would think you're a twat.

Cops showing up to the wrong address doesn't have anything to do with me. The point is, I've never been disrespectful and don't fit any racial or other profile.

I have come to the conclusion that cops are just dicks, and something about their job or qualifying for the job makes 'em that way. I do expect people to be polite and respectful, and I was taught that the police are there to help. It's taken almost 30 years, but I've finally given up and just avoid the police at all costs. I don't even bother calling them to report a crime, which seems like what they would prefer anyway.

Cops are useless to me, and I suspect I'm not alone. Sorry if that made you mad. Relax.


I have met a few cops both in experiences like you had and occaisionally outside their work. There are defiantly a few that are power tripping jerks, but most seem like good people doing a tough job. I just don't expect "service with a smile" because I work with the public on a limited basis, and if I had to deal with low life's and terrible situations they usually have to deal with, I would lose a lot of my positivness too.
 
2014-05-18 06:51:49 PM  

verdigris1: Oh, by the way, was it
Tuttle or Buttle?


At your service.
 
2014-05-18 06:54:14 PM  
Infowars. For when Yahoo News comments are too sane.
 
2014-05-18 06:54:28 PM  

sendtodave: jamspoon: willfullyobscure: Mouser: jamspoon: Is is just me or are these outfits increasingly designed to hide the wearers identity. It also makes it hard for the officer to communicate with the public increasing the risk of confrontation and violence.

I don't think a drug lord with an AK-47 is going to worry too much about identifying and communicating with the police.

Actually, they are. This trend started in Asia where drug lords started going after the families of special police units and kidnapping, torturing, killing etc in reprisal for enforcement activities. Same in Mexico.

That spread PDQ to radical Islamists and is the reason Paki SF units took to wearing balaclavas and not showing their faces in the news, so as to avoid going ro work and coming home to fresh wife-and-child salad.

Now its a bit of a trend around the world where gangs and law enforcement are a little more evenly matched than we are used to.

My problem is the use the SWAT team for crowd control. Their training is para-military not policing and their level of force goes from zero to max with little in between. Fine where appropriate, but not for policing a crowd of drunken sports fans.

A friend of mine used to be in the police and he said they kept a van of animals (his word) in reserve when policing sports events. If things got out of control, particularly with visiting fans looking for a fight, they let them loose to restore order. Under normal circumstances they stayed in the van as they were likely to cause more problems than they solved. Policing is all about using a measured response to restore order with the minimum of conflict.

Huh.

Well, at least they're self aware. They know that they are dicks.


Huh,
As opposed to the people in the crowd that are rioting and looking for a fight.
/giving the people what they want.
 
2014-05-18 07:18:39 PM  
Sometimes you forget to look at the source.

Sometimes is a jerk.
 
2014-05-18 10:08:59 PM  
m.abc17news.com
/Boston
 
2014-05-18 10:21:24 PM  

SmithHiller: /Boston


The pudgy one with the glasses is adorable.
 
2014-05-19 01:10:45 AM  

sendtodave: SmithHiller: /Boston

The pudgy one with the glasses is adorable.


"STOP RESISTING"
 
2014-05-19 03:18:21 AM  
On mobile so I don't want to quote the wall of text but I don't expect "service with a smile" either. I do expect some results, accuracy or to not be harassed when I'm the victim of a crime. I don't expect to be ordered to sit down, ordered not to move, have a flashlight shined in my face or otherwise treated like a piece of shiat when I haven't done anything wrong. I expect cops to show up at the right place when I call 911. And it's only gotten worse as time has passed. I once had a gun pulled on me by a cop for removing a bottle from the road and setting it down out of the way. Ordered not to move, show my hands, all that. This is over the span of decades, maybe one police encounter per year or two. Ten to fifteen altogether. Stone sober every time. Never arguing or using a disrespectful tone. Always doing whatever they say, always producing ID when asked.

Maybe cops are being overworked, maybe they don't have the proper equipment or training, maybe they are underpaid or stressed out. I don't know and I don't care. I'm staying away from 'em unless absolutely necessary, and I teach my kids to avoid 'me as well.
 
2014-05-19 03:19:00 AM  
*'em
 
2014-05-19 03:43:30 AM  

rocky_howard: skinink: In short: Shut the fark up about things you clearly have zero knowledge about.


All I know is a college buddy who is in commercial/industrial heating and cooling has worked the following locations over the last 20 years for extended periods.
-South Africa
-Nigeria
-Baghdad
-Shanghai
-Tel Aviv
-Rio de Janiero
-Seoul
-Chicago
-Dubai
Plus side trips for a week or two to consult in all sorts of not-so-good places: so he's not some little flower who hasn't traveled or seen things. The one place he always biatches about is Rio. He constantly complains about his "combat time" there and how completely hellish he thought the place was. When I asked him about them hosting the World Cup and Olympics he just laughs his head off. After he stopped his long laughter spell he just says "No farking way. It will be a disaster."
 
2014-05-19 04:55:58 AM  
Remember when time were simpler?

3.bp.blogspot.com
 
2014-05-19 04:57:19 AM  
"times"

/I need some sleep
 
2014-05-19 08:46:57 AM  

mccallcl: On mobile so I don't want to quote the wall of text but I don't expect "service with a smile" either. I do expect some results, accuracy or to not be harassed when I'm the victim of a crime. I don't expect to be ordered to sit down, ordered not to move, have a flashlight shined in my face or otherwise treated like a piece of shiat when I haven't done anything wrong. I expect cops to show up at the right place when I call 911. And it's only gotten worse as time has passed. I once had a gun pulled on me by a cop for removing a bottle from the road and setting it down out of the way. Ordered not to move, show my hands, all that. This is over the span of decades, maybe one police encounter per year or two. Ten to fifteen altogether. Stone sober every time. Never arguing or using a disrespectful tone. Always doing whatever they say, always producing ID when asked.

Maybe cops are being overworked, maybe they don't have the proper equipment or training, maybe they are underpaid or stressed out. I don't know and I don't care. I'm staying away from 'em unless absolutely necessary, and I teach my kids to avoid 'me as well.


You really, truly sound like you are a bad cop magnet, you should go pro with that ability.  Seriously, departments would pay big bucks to have all their bad apples lured out to a man that merely has to sit there calm and sober.
 
2014-05-19 09:06:47 AM  

sendtodave: SmithHiller: /Boston

The pudgy one with the glasses is adorable.


They're ALL pudgy except the one on the far left.
 
2014-05-19 10:25:35 AM  

mjohnson71: Remember when time were simpler?

[3.bp.blogspot.com image 850x615]


doesn't even take the smoke out of his mouth to beat some ass
/like a boss
 
2014-05-19 12:55:52 PM  

noitsnot: thamike: mccallcl: I like it. At least now their contempt for the populace is on open display. I've had very little luck with the police, in spite of always being polite and respectful. Whether calling on them for help, encountering a cop randomly on the street or being pulled over. I'm having a hard time figuring out what it is they are supposed to be doing for me. I've called for vandalized property, they showed up at the wrong address. I was assaulted with a weapon, they did nothing except run my license and question me about my brother's concealed carry permit (came up in the search). I asked for directions and was scoffed at. I've never received the follow up calls they promise to make. I am trying to think of a time that interacting with the police had a positive result and I am coming up blank. In addition to being ineffectual, they've always made a point of ordering me around, lecturing me or otherwise talking down to me.

This is in multiple cities and states. I'm in my late 30s and have a white-collar office job. I don't have any visible tattoos. I am a white male. I've never sassed or smarted off to a cop in my life.

Yeah, you're a regular Wally Cleaver...whose sh*t gets vandalized, gets assaulted with a weapon, who lives with his gun-concealing brother, who rolls up on cops to ask directions, and doesn't seem to understand the nature of urgent communication when it comes to responding policemen, AND who sees no problem with insisting that the police should be polite to him because he's white and works in and office and has no tattoos.

Yeah, I can't imagine why anyone would think you're a twat.

You seem much more twattish than him.


You both seem like Infowars readers.
 
2014-05-19 01:28:59 PM  

thamike: noitsnot: thamike: mccallcl: I like it. At least now their contempt for the populace is on open display. I've had very little luck with the police, in spite of always being polite and respectful. Whether calling on them for help, encountering a cop randomly on the street or being pulled over. I'm having a hard time figuring out what it is they are supposed to be doing for me. I've called for vandalized property, they showed up at the wrong address. I was assaulted with a weapon, they did nothing except run my license and question me about my brother's concealed carry permit (came up in the search). I asked for directions and was scoffed at. I've never received the follow up calls they promise to make. I am trying to think of a time that interacting with the police had a positive result and I am coming up blank. In addition to being ineffectual, they've always made a point of ordering me around, lecturing me or otherwise talking down to me.

This is in multiple cities and states. I'm in my late 30s and have a white-collar office job. I don't have any visible tattoos. I am a white male. I've never sassed or smarted off to a cop in my life.

Yeah, you're a regular Wally Cleaver...whose sh*t gets vandalized, gets assaulted with a weapon, who lives with his gun-concealing brother, who rolls up on cops to ask directions, and doesn't seem to understand the nature of urgent communication when it comes to responding policemen, AND who sees no problem with insisting that the police should be polite to him because he's white and works in and office and has no tattoos.

Yeah, I can't imagine why anyone would think you're a twat.

You seem much more twattish than him.

You both seem like Infowars readers.


s14.postimg.org
 
2014-05-19 03:07:28 PM  
It's not my fault I'm teasing some dickbag who assumes he should get special treatment for his whiteness, tattoolessness, and officiousness-- despite his tragic, blundering approach to dealing with authority figures.

In my defense, it's a reasonable reaction.
 
2014-05-19 03:59:03 PM  

mjohnson71: Remember when time were simpler?

[3.bp.blogspot.com image 850x615]


Did he wet himself?
 
2014-05-19 05:14:38 PM  

kore: mjohnson71: Remember when time were simpler?

[3.bp.blogspot.com image 850x615]

Did he wet himself?


Probably from joy of bashing hippie skulls in.
 
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