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2014-05-18 12:25:55 AM
cdn.phildrysdale.com
 
2014-05-18 12:52:22 AM
It was the history eraser button... wasn't it? Godsdamnitsomuch!
 
2014-05-18 02:18:50 AM
www.trunews.com
 
2014-05-18 03:02:04 AM
Heh, was on an unnamed African airfield with old russian jets on the side of the tarmac. People were scavenging altimeters and whatnot. A Belgian yanked an eject handle, it collapsed his lungs. Don't know if he made it. Don't fark with shiat you don't know about. Darwin approves of this message.
 
2014-05-18 03:38:13 AM
About what I would have expected.

If that tank had been left anywhere in greater Los Angeles, though, the thing never would have fired; it would have been stripped to the treads before anyone got around to "Hey, I wonder what this button does?" Either that, or that would have been the FIRST thing anyone did....
 
2014-05-18 03:46:00 AM
OK, guys. Everybody, shut up! I logged plenty of hours on XBox, so I know what I'm doing. They're all the same. Push this button to...

KaBOOM!!!
 
2014-05-18 03:46:56 AM
This is why we don't need to help this country.  Their own army won't fight.  Why should we do it for them?
 
2014-05-18 03:47:45 AM

Triumph: [www.trunews.com image 540x502]


Haha, Do Not Taunt Grenade Monkey
 
2014-05-18 03:50:11 AM
A metaphor for Putin's exit strategy in Ukraine. Rattle the hornets' nest and wait
 
2014-05-18 03:53:40 AM
Lookit this!  Let's steal shiat ;)
 
2014-05-18 03:54:50 AM
That appears to actually be a BMP-2 Russian personnel carrier. This is probably a very good thing overall. A typical Russian tank would be armed with a 125mm cannon instead of the 73mm BMP cannon. The 125mm would have been two to three times as powerful (at a guess).
Leaving all that aside, what in the world was going on!!!??? In most countries with a very shoddy military the soldiers will at least wait until there is some sort of threat before abandoning their weapons. This looks like "Let's load up the main gun and get out of here."
http://www.militaryfactory.com/armor/detail.asp?armor_id=50
 
2014-05-18 03:58:00 AM

WireFire2: This is why we don't need to help this country.  Their own army won't fight.  Why should we do it for them?


How do you know the tank didn't break down and the crew left it to go get help?
 
2014-05-18 04:00:12 AM
No wonder John McCain wants so badly to send US forces to help Ukraine fight Russia... Ukraine military reminds him of his farked up military career....bottom of class at Annapolis....wreck plane on USS Forrestal...
 
2014-05-18 04:09:13 AM

FloridaFarkTag: No wonder John McCain wants so badly to send US forces to help Ukraine fight Russia... Ukraine military reminds him of his farked up military career....bottom of class at Annapolis....wreck plane on USS Forrestal...


Oh, has he updated his idea to that?

Last I heard from him was that he wanted to supply the Ukrainian army with weapons. Which is more moronic than what his running mate Palin ever managed.

Yeah, their problem is they don't have enough weapons. More weapons will help...
 
2014-05-18 04:10:47 AM
I'm amazed how farking stupid someone must be to go leave abandon a tank like that, BUT I'm still even more impressed by the level of stupidity of someone trying to fire it.

I swear, most people are as dumb as chimps. I truly hate people.
 
2014-05-18 04:14:29 AM
Rummage around YouTube for "Push the button" by Little Big.
 
2014-05-18 04:18:15 AM
flipcatconsulting.com
 
2014-05-18 04:20:11 AM
That is more of a troop transport vehicle than a tank.  It probably had a 30mm~ish round in its gun, which would fark up small stuff, but not destroy enemy tanks.

/BF1942 Expert
 
2014-05-18 04:26:53 AM
I can't even fathom the mentality of the people messing around with the tank. Even if you don't get hurt, or damage the tank, or accidentally fire the weapons, what is going to happen if the tank crew comes back while you're there? I'm almost certain messing with your nation's military hardware is super illegal pretty much everywhere. If the crew doesn't just shoot you (a real possibility if they think you're an insurgent, like the ones spreading unrest in Ukraine) they're going to arrest you for sure.
 
2014-05-18 04:27:03 AM

Gyrfalcon: About what I would have expected.

If that tank had been left anywhere in greater Los Angeles, though, the thing never would have fired; it would have been stripped to the treads before anyone got around to "Hey, I wonder what this button does?" Either that, or that would have been the FIRST thing anyone did....


In America, we know about guns. I'd bet dollars to donuts if we left a working tank alone in Downtown LA there'd be at least 20 people in the first hundred who knew how to use the gun properly, either from work on movie sets, the army, or gang activities.
 
2014-05-18 04:31:47 AM

DreamSnipers: Leaving all that aside, what in the world was going on!!!??? In most countries with a very shoddy military the soldiers will at least wait until there is some sort of threat before abandoning their weapons. This looks like "Let's load up the main gun and get out of here."


The threat is usually civilians surrounding the vehicle and preventing it from moving. Short of driving the tank across civilians, there is very little a crew can do. And tank crews ain't gonna do it. Nobody wants to have his picture serve as an example for the next 30 years.

The usual arrangement is "leave your tank/weapons and get the hell out". Usually the weapons are surrendered either to local police (which, of course, is "neutral"). Obviously, army doesn't want to surrender weapons to civilians/unknown persons, which usually means that the local criminals are suddenly armed with modern army weaponry (incidentally, something like 15 armored bank vehicles were robbed in the last month), but in this particular case the army was probably irate enough to leave the vehicle armed and ready to fire, in the hopes that those morons will hurt themselves.

By the way, Luhansk and Donetsk currently are de-facto independent... Putin may be "losing", but it's a fraking phyrric "victory" for anyone else. There are articles about "steel workers taking back the city", but, people! Those are steel workers organized by Rinat Akhmetov, the billionaire, who supported and I think supplied separatists, and steel workers work together with separatists, not against them! They do not engage in any hostilities against separatists, but have an agreement with them.

It's Rinat Akhmetov (pro-Russian oligarch) getting his own personal domain, not Ukrainian government getting Ukraine back!
 
2014-05-18 04:33:44 AM

WireFire2: This is why we don't need to help this country.  Their own army won't fight.  Why should we do it for them?


That was the point of the propaganda.
 
2014-05-18 04:39:14 AM

Arcanum: That was the point of the propaganda.


And it's working pretty great. Worked. Ukraine tried everything, censorship, counter-propaganda, to no avail.
 
2014-05-18 04:41:00 AM
Yesterday was incidentally the anniversary of this cagey business, America:

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=XnUoUKEIGoo
 
2014-05-18 04:45:59 AM

Mitrovarr: I can't even fathom the mentality of the people messing around with the tank.


Opportunity knocks but once.
 
2014-05-18 04:47:06 AM

Mitrovarr: I can't even fathom the mentality of the people messing around with the tank. Even if you don't get hurt, or damage the tank, or accidentally fire the weapons, what is going to happen if the tank crew comes back while you're there? I'm almost certain messing with your nation's military hardware is super illegal pretty much everywhere. If the crew doesn't just shoot you (a real possibility if they think you're an insurgent, like the ones spreading unrest in Ukraine) they're going to arrest you for sure.


These people are dirt-poor and uneducated, and someone just left a whole APC full of free stuff.

Some people get the tasty bits, some get the explodey bits. It's Ukrainian roulette.
 
2014-05-18 04:59:20 AM
Kiev gotta be kidding me....
 
2014-05-18 04:59:23 AM
Hate to sound like an ITG, but it's not a tank, it's just a BMP-2. It's an Infantry Fighting Vehicle (Barely), more of an Armored Personnel Carrier.

It seems like the crew dismounted and abandoned the vehicle. Desertion, I suppose?
 
2014-05-18 05:09:45 AM

Wessoman: It seems like the crew dismounted and abandoned the vehicle. Desertion, I suppose?


Usually civilians surrounding the vehicle and preventing it from moving. Short of driving the tank across civilians, there is very little a crew can do. And tank crews ain't gonna do it. Nobody wants to have his picture serve as an example for the next 30 years.

The usual arrangement is "leave your BMP/weapons and get the hell out".

Separatists currently have 3 or 4 BMPs, acquired this way.
 
2014-05-18 05:13:22 AM
leaving a tank abanonded in eastern europe is like black friday at walmart for europeans.
 
2014-05-18 05:17:14 AM

PreMortem: A Belgian yanked an eject handle, it collapsed his lungs.


How does that happen? Was he in the cockpit at the time?
 
2014-05-18 05:22:01 AM

WireFire2: This is why we don't need to help this country.  Their own army won't fight.  Why should we do it for them?


I'm inclined to agree. If their army can't even keep its tanks under control what possible help could we be in the long run?
 
2014-05-18 05:34:21 AM
If you look at the video, you'll see the turret was moved and they fired AT the cameraman (but missed). After it was fired, the tank starts turning and moving toward the cameraman, changing direction when the cameraman changes direction.

The motive is clear, since the cameraman recorded the looters up close, and one was obviously upset about it.

This wasn't just an oops.
 
2014-05-18 05:39:42 AM

Grahor: Wessoman: It seems like the crew dismounted and abandoned the vehicle. Desertion, I suppose?

Usually civilians surrounding the vehicle and preventing it from moving. Short of driving the tank across civilians, there is very little a crew can do. And tank crews ain't gonna do it. Nobody wants to have his picture serve as an example for the next 30 years.


www.theprovince.com
 
2014-05-18 05:41:53 AM
3.bp.blogspot.com
 
2014-05-18 05:48:37 AM
I'd expected to see a teeming mass along the lines of:


myspideysenseistingling.files.wordpress.com

Sadly, this looks tamer than Safeway store pandemonia(?) in wintry weather.
 
2014-05-18 05:48:50 AM

Grahor: Wessoman: It seems like the crew dismounted and abandoned the vehicle. Desertion, I suppose?

Usually civilians surrounding the vehicle and preventing it from moving. Short of driving the tank across civilians, there is very little a crew can do. And tank crews ain't gonna do it. Nobody wants to have his picture serve as an example for the next 30 years.

The usual arrangement is "leave your BMP/weapons and get the hell out".

Separatists currently have 3 or 4 BMPs, acquired this way.


http://rt.com/news/ukrainian-tanks-kramatorsk-civilians-840/

Does that include the 6 they lost this Wednesday?


I'm flabbergasted that the Ukrainian army keeps sending in local soldiers, when they keep changing sides given the opertunity.
 
2014-05-18 06:08:26 AM
Yeah, another responsible gun owner.
 
2014-05-18 06:12:00 AM
Grahor:
Usually civilians surrounding the vehicle and preventing it from moving. Short of driving the tank across civilians, there is very little a crew can do. And tank crews ain't gonna do it. Nobody wants to have his picture serve as an example for the next 30 years.

The usual arrangement is "leave your BMP/weapons and get the hell out".

Separatists currently have 3 or 4 BMPs, acquired this way.



Look, I've never been in the military but as someone who is a "Fark Armchair General" (Trademark Rights Reserved) and has watched plenty of History Channel documentaries on wars and what not, isn't there usually some sort of infantry support that goes with a tank?  Or atleast a column of other tanks.

I mean you just don't drive a single tank into a hostile area, do you?
 
2014-05-18 06:15:30 AM

spawn73: Does that include the 6 they lost this Wednesday?


Published time: April 16, 2014 09:25

Those (in the video) are the BMPs that switched sides in April. 3 or more of them, if I remember correctly, were later returned to Ukrainian army (without much, if any, bloodshed).

spawn73: I'm flabbergasted that the Ukrainian army keeps sending in local soldiers, when they keep changing sides given the opertunity.


The army didn't quite change sides. They've kind of given the tanks to separatists and then have returned to their own military compound, where their regiment was, apparently, disbanded afterwards. It's also not exactly that they want to switch sides to separatists, it's just that the chaos in Ukrainian army was such that they weren't even fed for a couple of days. Separatists offered them a meal. :)

The problem with sending non-local fighters against separatists and civilians is, of course, that they are non-local.
 
2014-05-18 06:16:07 AM

i upped my meds-up yours: PreMortem: A Belgian yanked an eject handle, it collapsed his lungs.

How does that happen? Was he in the cockpit at the time?


I don't know the model, but it was one of those old jets that the nose looked like a jet engine itself. He was outside the cockpit leaning in/over it. Saw it happen from a couple hundred yards away. The smoke lead me to believe the ejector was like a big firework or something. Regardless, as soon as it happened, his compatriots got to him and a helicopter arrived bout an hour later and never saw him again .
 
2014-05-18 06:25:12 AM

SirEattonHogg: Look, I've never been in the military but as someone who is a "Fark Armchair General" (Trademark Rights Reserved) and has watched plenty of History Channel documentaries on wars and what not, isn't there usually some sort of infantry support that goes with a tank?  Or atleast a column of other tanks.

I mean you just don't drive a single tank into a hostile area, do you?


Those tanks are usually supported by some infantry, driving inside the tank. However. Imagine, there are 50 civilians surrounding the tank and 4-5 infantrymen. What's next? Is infantry going to shoot people? No. Are they going to hit people with a riffle butt? One hit to some local grandfather and the crowd will tear them apart. Are they going to just stand there arguing? Yeah, that's what usually happens, but what's next? How long are they going to stand like that, with more and more people joining the crowd?

As for tank column, how more tanks in the same trap are going to help? Also, all areas are hostile areas...

You may check videos on youtube -there are plenty of videos of people surrounding tanks and how it develops from there. For example, once a tankist pulled out the grenade and sweared that he'll blow up himself and everyone around, and that allowed the tanks to escape.
 
2014-05-18 06:26:10 AM
www.blastwave-comic.com
 
2014-05-18 06:55:06 AM
i.imgur.com
 
2014-05-18 07:20:12 AM

doglover: Mitrovarr: I can't even fathom the mentality of the people messing around with the tank.

Opportunity knocks but once.


Heh.
How many chances does the average person have to explore an unmanned tank?
 
2014-05-18 07:56:14 AM

JoieD'Zen: doglover: Mitrovarr: I can't even fathom the mentality of the people messing around with the tank.

Opportunity knocks but once.

Heh.
How many chances does the average person have to explore an unmanned tank?


Exactly. And besides, they were looting it.

If I was in Ukraine right now, I'd take any and all opportunities to lay hands on armor, canned food, etc. shiat just hit the fan HARD over there not six months ago. Things are still simmering, possibly about to boil over again. Leaving a military thang out in the street like that? I'm definitely looking though it.
 
2014-05-18 07:59:02 AM
memedepot.com
 
2014-05-18 08:06:58 AM
See now, if someone had a gun, this wouldn't have happened.
 
2014-05-18 08:28:46 AM

JoieD'Zen: doglover: Mitrovarr: I can't even fathom the mentality of the people messing around with the tank.

Opportunity knocks but once.

Heh.
How many chances does the average person have to explore an unmanned tank?


And how many get to fire it? Hell yeah, I'd do it. Just aim it in a safe direction first. Like at a wall ...
 
2014-05-18 08:29:51 AM

Bob The Nob: [i.imgur.com image 480x360]


Came here to post that same pic of  Burns... Didn't expect it to take 40 posts!
 
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