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2014-05-18 03:38:55 AM  
If it were a private prison, the company running it would no longer get the monthly check for that inmate and the market would self correct itself.
 
2014-05-18 04:22:10 AM  
Keeping a human locked in a cell at above 75 degrees is inhumane.

I would support a rule that if the temperature goes over that temperature for more than 30 minutes it will result in an automatic and immediate shutdown of all locking systems and immediate release for anyone kept in those conditions.
 
2014-05-18 05:42:47 AM  
FTA:
"It happened in the winter and was due to malfunctioning heating equipment rather than scorching outside temperatures."

Another multi-million dollar wrongful death settlement that could've been put to better use somewhere else.

But at least the prison saved $100 on the HVAC budget, right?
 
2014-05-18 07:30:23 AM  

HindiDiscoMonster: Wake Up Sheeple: FTA:
"It happened in the winter and was due to malfunctioning heating equipment rather than scorching outside temperatures."

Another multi-million dollar wrongful death settlement that could've been put to better use somewhere else.

But at least the prison saved $100 on the HVAC budget, right?

so he was very slowly roasted to death.


Heat stroke .
 
2014-05-18 07:33:30 AM  
FTFA: "Prisons have an obligation, which no one disputes, to provide conditions that, while they don't have to be comfortable, they can't be deadly," Fathi said. "But because of climate change..."

I was with them until they played the climate change card. WTF does that have to do with lack of air conditioning?
 
2014-05-18 08:12:21 AM  

DarkVader: Keeping a human locked in a cell at above 75 degrees is inhumane.

I would support a rule that if the temperature goes over that temperature for more than 30 minutes it will result in an automatic and immediate shutdown of all locking systems and immediate release for anyone kept in those conditions.



75???  I live in Vegas and keep my house around 81-82 in the summer (with a ceiling fan) . Perfectly comfortable.
 
2014-05-18 09:06:57 AM  

ChoNeko: DarkVader: Keeping a human locked in a cell at above 75 degrees is inhumane.

I would support a rule that if the temperature goes over that temperature for more than 30 minutes it will result in an automatic and immediate shutdown of all locking systems and immediate release for anyone kept in those conditions.


75???  I live in Vegas and keep my house around 81-82 in the summer (with a ceiling fan) . Perfectly comfortable.


I'm a canadian and I say anything over 71 is to damn hot.
 
2014-05-18 09:15:59 AM  
The Anchorage Daily News is the one reporting the story.  Trust me guys, I think you should be more worried about polar bears mauling your inmates than overheating doing them in.
 
2014-05-18 10:24:15 AM  

teenage mutant ninja rapist: ChoNeko: DarkVader: Keeping a human locked in a cell at above 75 degrees is inhumane.

I would support a rule that if the temperature goes over that temperature for more than 30 minutes it will result in an automatic and immediate shutdown of all locking systems and immediate release for anyone kept in those conditions.


75???  I live in Vegas and keep my house around 81-82 in the summer (with a ceiling fan) . Perfectly comfortable.

I'm a canadian and I say anything over 71 is to damn hot.


I'm in the Atlanta area and I agree.

Then again,I'm moving to the Pacific Northwest to escape the heat (among others things)
 
2014-05-18 11:05:08 AM  
maybe he... forgot his number or lost his spoon...

 Them clothes got laundry numbers on them. You remember your number and always wear the ones that has your number. Any man forgets his number spends a night in the box. These here spoons you keep with you. Any man loses his spoon spends a night in the box. There's no playing grab-ass or fighting in the building. You got a grudge against another man, you fight him Saturday afternoon. Any man playing grab-ass or fighting in the building spends a night in the box. First bell's at five minutes of eight when you will get in your bunk. Last bell is at eight. Any man not in his bunk at eight spends the night in the box. There is no smoking in the prone position in bed. To smoke you must have both legs over the side of your bunk. Any man caught smoking in the prone position in bed... spends a night in the box. You get two sheets. Every Saturday, you put the clean sheet on the top... the top sheet on the bottom... and the bottom sheet you turn in to the laundry boy. Any man turns in the wrong sheet spends a night in the box. No one'll sit in the bunks with dirty pants on. Any man with dirty pants on sitting on the bunks spends a night in the box. Any man don't bring back his empty pop bottle spends a night in the box. Any man loud talking spends a night in the box. You got questions, you come to me. I'm Carr, the floor walker. I'm responsible for order in here. Any man don't keep order spends a night in...   Luke:  the box?
 
2014-05-18 11:40:12 AM  
Who cares, it's a dead prisoner. Most people don't give a rats ass about prisoners as long as they are locked up and out of society. But as soon as one dies in prison it's a huge issue and people are outraged. It's like when Micheal Jackson died.... He was mostly hated for being a weirdo and pedophile and god knows what else..... But as soon as he dies it seems like the whole world is mourning and sad. I don't get it.
 
2014-05-18 12:06:05 PM  

Dirty J1: Who cares, it's a dead prisoner. Most people don't give a rats ass about prisoners as long as they are locked up and out of society. But as soon as one dies in prison it's a huge issue and people are outraged. It's like when Micheal Jackson died.... He was mostly hated for being a weirdo and pedophile and god knows what else..... But as soon as he dies it seems like the whole world is mourning and sad. I don't get it.


The Eulogy Song (NSFW lyrics)

/Obligatory
 
2014-05-18 12:49:33 PM  

DORMAMU: If it were a private prison, the company running it would no longer get the monthly check for that inmate and the market would self correct itself.


All they'd have to do is bribe a judge to send them some more. Maybe a slightly larger bribe to send them only healthy ones so they don't have to fix their aging infrastructure.
 
2014-05-18 01:16:08 PM  

HindiDiscoMonster: Dirty J1: Who cares, it's a dead prisoner. Most people don't give a rats ass about prisoners as long as they are locked up and out of society. But as soon as one dies in prison it's a huge issue and people are outraged. It's like when Micheal Jackson died.... He was mostly hated for being a weirdo and pedophile and god knows what else..... But as soon as he dies it seems like the whole world is mourning and sad. I don't get it.

It could be because the rest of us are human and value human life... just guessing though.


Maybe true, because I don't exactly value human life myself. When you see humanity through my eyes and note what people are capable of and what we as people have done, you'd value human life less too. There are things people do that disgusting disease ridden rodents wouldn't do. Here are some reasons why humans are the worst possible species: we are the only species to practice necrophelia, the only one to kill eachother for reasons other than food or defense, we are solely responsible for everything wrong with the environment, and are the only species to demonstrate hatred and bigotry towards someone of the same species thats a different color or creed. Now it's your turn: lets see if you can convince me why human life is indeed valuable. Take note though: I'm not religious, so any religious rhetoric doesn't count. And.....go!
 
2014-05-18 02:38:42 PM  
FTA:

The courts have likewise ruled that Arizona prisoners on psychotropic medication must be housed in a unit where the temperature is maintained at 85 degrees or below and Wisconsin was ordered to install air conditioning in a so-called Supermax state prison, Fathi said. Courts have also ruled on heat conditions for prisoners in cases brought in Illinois, Georgia and Delaware.
Read more here: http://www.adn.com/2014/05/17/3474615/death-in-hot-jail-cell-highligh t s.html?sp=/99/188/3976/#storylink=cpy


Who wants to bet that they'll take "85 or below" to mean "as low as they can possibly get it", like 30-40 degrees at all times and no blanket or mat to sleep on?
 
2014-05-18 02:44:21 PM  
I just finished my senior research paper on prisoner welfare. Went into it wanting to decry fluffy treatment and call for harsher conditions. Came out of it wanting to join the ACLU's National Prison Project.

We treat prisoners horribly. This country should be ashamed.
 
2014-05-18 04:42:14 PM  
And of course it was just some random mentally ill homeless veteran instead of a death row toddler rapist.  If there's a God he's sure a sadistic evil fark!
 
2014-05-18 10:20:21 PM  

ChoNeko: DarkVader: Keeping a human locked in a cell at above 75 degrees is inhumane.

I would support a rule that if the temperature goes over that temperature for more than 30 minutes it will result in an automatic and immediate shutdown of all locking systems and immediate release for anyone kept in those conditions.


75???  I live in Vegas and keep my house around 81-82 in the summer (with a ceiling fan) . Perfectly comfortable.


Dry heat with a breeze is very different than muggy with stale air.  It's probably easier to set a temperature requirement than a combined temperature/humidity requirement.  Of course, you are responding to a ridiculous idea.  If the doors unlock automatically the prisoners will find a way to make it 75 degrees, but as a goal temperature, it seems to be about right.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Room_temperature
 
2014-05-18 10:34:50 PM  

HindiDiscoMonster: God didn't kill him... the prison system did. Why do people insist on blaming God, the devil, or some mysterious magic force for things that people do to each other?


Yes, that was the point!
 
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