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(Slate)   We know that Han shot first. We know that the Enterprise could beat a Star Destroyer. We know that Tom Baker was the best Doctor. But here's a question for the ages: Is Godzilla a male or female?   (slate.com) divider line 245
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2014-05-17 07:29:43 PM
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2014-05-17 07:41:45 PM
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2014-05-17 07:48:54 PM
In some of the old movies where he had personality he was definitely male... and a sarcastic jerk.
 
2014-05-17 07:55:21 PM
With a purposeful grimace and a terrible sound
He pulls the spitting high tension wires down

Helpless people on a subway train
Scream bug-eyed as he looks in on them

He picks up a bus and he throws it back down
As he wades through the buildings toward the center of town

Oh no, they say he's got to go go go Godzilla
Oh no, there goes Tokyo go go Godzilla



Who am I to question Blue Oyster Cult?
 
2014-05-17 08:04:50 PM
She shows up, surprises the crap out of everyone, stomps the crap out of everything and calmly walks away. Sounds like a woman when Aunt Flo visits.
 
2014-05-17 08:09:31 PM
This is a "Are Sherlock Holmes and Watson Gay" type of question that adds nothing to the movie but is a great time waster, especially since there isn't an answer.
 
2014-05-17 08:12:36 PM
The Enterprise could beat a Star Destroyer?
 
2014-05-17 08:38:29 PM
That much anger, bitterness, and hatred? Not only a woman, but a feminist.
 
2014-05-17 08:39:41 PM
Female, and always was.
 
2014-05-17 08:43:12 PM
Female, duh. Her and Mothra have a lesbian relationship,
 
2014-05-17 08:43:44 PM
Godzilla is male, but he's very very gay.
 
2014-05-17 08:44:47 PM

BadReligion: Female, duh. Her and Mothra have a lesbian relationship,


But Godzilla's Mothra-in-law hates her.
 
2014-05-17 08:46:26 PM
Godzilla is not female. No boobs.
 
2014-05-17 08:47:42 PM
Both, but not at the same time. Like the frogs mentioned in Jurassic Park.

And the Enterprise is at best, a scout ship with high defense, but with far less firepower than a Star Destroyer, which was built for battle.
 
2014-05-17 08:47:48 PM

clancifer: The Enterprise could beat a Star Destroyer?


i dont get that, either.

The Imperial I-class Star Destroyer possessed a main battery of six heavy ion cannons arranged in four dual mounts flanking the ship's tower structure.

Numerous smaller and medium guns were mounted around the ship to ward off attacks against lesser ships not capable of being targeted by the main battery.

Imperial-class Star Destroyers typically carried a standard Imperial wing of 6 TIE Squardrons for a total of 72 starfighters.
 
2014-05-17 08:50:38 PM

craigzy: clancifer: The Enterprise could beat a Star Destroyer?

i dont get that, either.

The Imperial I-class Star Destroyer possessed a main battery of six heavy ion cannons arranged in four dual mounts flanking the ship's tower structure.

Numerous smaller and medium guns were mounted around the ship to ward off attacks against lesser ships not capable of being targeted by the main battery.

Imperial-class Star Destroyers typically carried a standard Imperial wing of 6 TIE Squardrons for a total of 72 starfighters.


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2014-05-17 08:51:36 PM

way south: Female, and always was.


Yup, even ignoring the egg laying in the '93 version, there was the Minilla incident. Which we must never speak of again.
 
2014-05-17 08:56:17 PM

J. Frank Parnell: way south: Female, and always was.

Yup, even ignoring the egg laying in the '93 version, there was the Minilla incident. Which we must never speak of again.


Actually, canon is that the mini-me version of godzilla was adopted.

No, it was never adequately explained how that worked.

// All versions except the Godzilla 2000 version are male, to my knowledge.  The 2014 version fairly explicitly references the '60s movies, so we're back to male again, I guess.
// Kind of a dumb question when there's only one of you.
 
2014-05-17 08:59:57 PM

craigzy: clancifer: The Enterprise could beat a Star Destroyer?

i dont get that, either.

The Imperial I-class Star Destroyer possessed a main battery of six heavy ion cannons arranged in four dual mounts flanking the ship's tower structure.

Numerous smaller and medium guns were mounted around the ship to ward off attacks against lesser ships not capable of being targeted by the main battery.

Imperial-class Star Destroyers typically carried a standard Imperial wing of 6 TIE Squardrons for a total of 72 starfighters.


I thought, relatively speaking, the Enterprise was the size of a large skyscraper, while star destroyers were the size of entire continents. That the power ratio for Star Wars ships was so insanely large that, short of a Star Trek ship teleporting a bomb or something into one, there was no remotely physical way to compare the two without the Star Trek ships simply being flysplats on windshields.
 
2014-05-17 09:00:38 PM

craigzy: clancifer: The Enterprise could beat a Star Destroyer?

i dont get that, either.

The Imperial I-class Star Destroyer possessed a main battery of six heavy ion cannons arranged in four dual mounts flanking the ship's tower structure.

Numerous smaller and medium guns were mounted around the ship to ward off attacks against lesser ships not capable of being targeted by the main battery.

Imperial-class Star Destroyers typically carried a standard Imperial wing of 6 TIE Squardrons for a total of 72 starfighters.


Phhhft just a scout ship?

The Enterprise was a Galaxy Class ship, one of the largest and most powerful of it's day.

Ten Phaser Banks, for and aft torpedo launchers, anti matter mines.

Everyone knows Star Destroyer's shields are crap.
 
2014-05-17 09:02:35 PM

Jim_Callahan: J. Frank Parnell: way south: Female, and always was.

Yup, even ignoring the egg laying in the '93 version, there was the Minilla incident. Which we must never speak of again.

Actually, canon is that the mini-me version of godzilla was adopted.

No, it was never adequately explained how that worked.

// All versions except the Godzilla 2000 version are male, to my knowledge.  The 2014 version fairly explicitly references the '60s movies, so we're back to male again, I guess.
// Kind of a dumb question when there's only one of you.


Kaiju family court is a complicated thing.
 
2014-05-17 09:02:40 PM
Well, the 98 version said female and it's wrong about everything. So male.
 
2014-05-17 09:02:51 PM
Godzilla's a female and probabl upset all the time because how can a monster that size find a decent pedicure?
 
2014-05-17 09:03:36 PM

craigzy: clancifer: The Enterprise could beat a Star Destroyer?

i dont get that, either.

The Imperial I-class Star Destroyer possessed a main battery of six heavy ion cannons arranged in four dual mounts flanking the ship's tower structure.

Numerous smaller and medium guns were mounted around the ship to ward off attacks against lesser ships not capable of being targeted by the main battery.

Imperial-class Star Destroyers typically carried a standard Imperial wing of 6 TIE Squardrons for a total of 72 starfighters.


How quaint. Reverse shield polarity and beam a quantum torpedo onto their bridge.
 
2014-05-17 09:04:26 PM

Danger Avoid Death: BadReligion: Female, duh. Her and Mothra have a lesbian relationship,

But Godzilla's Mothra-in-law hates her.


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2014-05-17 09:06:05 PM

skinink: Godzilla's a female and probabl upset all the time because how can a monster that size find a decent pedicure?


Find a giant Vietnamese woman.
 
2014-05-17 09:06:14 PM

Rozotorical: Everyone knows Star Destroyer's shields are crap.



YOU TAKE THAT BACK, OR ELSE!
 
2014-05-17 09:06:47 PM
How dare they try to assign a gender and not let godzilla self identify.
 
2014-05-17 09:06:48 PM

craigzy: Rozotorical: Everyone knows Star Destroyer's shields are crap.


YOU TAKE THAT BACK, OR ELSE!


I am just saying an A-Wing could take one out.
 
2014-05-17 09:09:22 PM

DrewCurtisJr: How dare they try to assign a gender and not let godzilla self identify.


Phfft it's a lizard gender gets complicated quickly. Let's just say it is a mommy and a daddy city destroyer.
 
2014-05-17 09:09:33 PM

clancifer: The Enterprise could beat a Star Destroyer?


Only in the minds of Spazzes, and anyway it would still depend on whether the captain was kirk, picard, or janeway.
 
2014-05-17 09:10:46 PM

Rozotorical: craigzy: Rozotorical: Everyone knows Star Destroyer's shields are crap.


YOU TAKE THAT BACK, OR ELSE!

I am just saying an A-Wing could take one out.


Asian High Expectations father was pleased with his number one son taking out a star destroyer in his A-wing
 
2014-05-17 09:11:42 PM

Rozotorical: craigzy: Rozotorical: Everyone knows Star Destroyer's shields are crap.


YOU TAKE THAT BACK, OR ELSE!

I am just saying an A-Wing could take one out.


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2014-05-17 09:17:12 PM

kroonermanblack: I thought, relatively speaking, the Enterprise was the size of a large skyscraper, while star destroyers were the size of entire continents. That the power ratio for Star Wars ships was so insanely large that, short of a Star Trek ship teleporting a bomb or something into one, there was no remotely physical way to compare the two without the Star Trek ships simply being flysplats on windshields.


Well there's your answer right there.  The Enterprise has the technology to teleport people and things, and can simply beam the officers off the Star Destroyer and into space.

Plus, their computer technology is far more advanced.  They're tapping touch screens while the crew of the star destroyer are pulling levers amid giant banks of pushbuttons.  Hell, even copying a file is some impossible thing in the Star Wars universe.  Remember how Episode IV was all about the Empire trying to track down the "technical readouts" of the Death Star, hidden in R2D2?  Sending troops to Tatooine to retrieve the one copy that could possibly exist?
 
2014-05-17 09:18:29 PM
I seem to recall reading fanfic back in the day, Thrawn versus Picard, and Thrawn kicked Picard's ass bigtime.

Obviously, that should settle this argument.
 
2014-05-17 09:19:32 PM

Xcott: kroonermanblack: I thought, relatively speaking, the Enterprise was the size of a large skyscraper, while star destroyers were the size of entire continents. That the power ratio for Star Wars ships was so insanely large that, short of a Star Trek ship teleporting a bomb or something into one, there was no remotely physical way to compare the two without the Star Trek ships simply being flysplats on windshields.

Well there's your answer right there.  The Enterprise has the technology to teleport people and things, and can simply beam the officers off the Star Destroyer and into space.

Plus, their computer technology is far more advanced.  They're tapping touch screens while the crew of the star destroyer are pulling levers amid giant banks of pushbuttons.  Hell, even copying a file is some impossible thing in the Star Wars universe.  Remember how Episode IV was all about the Empire trying to track down the "technical readouts" of the Death Star, hidden in R2D2?  Sending troops to Tatooine to retrieve the one copy that could possibly exist?


72 GOD DAMN TIE FIGHTERS
 
2014-05-17 09:23:15 PM

strangeluck: How quaint. Reverse shield polarity and beam a quantum torpedo onto their bridge.


Xcott: The Enterprise has the technology to teleport people and things, and can simply beam the officers off the Star Destroyer and into space.


Of all the dozens of hours of material, they used the transporter as a weapon once and it was Jayneway who beamed a torpedo into a Borg ship. It never occurred to anyone else any other time.
 
2014-05-17 09:24:55 PM
 
2014-05-17 09:27:09 PM

craigzy: Rozotorical: craigzy: Rozotorical: Everyone knows Star Destroyer's shields are crap.


YOU TAKE THAT BACK, OR ELSE!

I am just saying an A-Wing could take one out.

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You like apples?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RW_hGOFukMQ
 
2014-05-17 09:29:31 PM

Mugato: strangeluck: How quaint. Reverse shield polarity and beam a quantum torpedo onto their bridge.

Xcott: The Enterprise has the technology to teleport people and things, and can simply beam the officers off the Star Destroyer and into space.

Of all the dozens of hours of material, they used the transporter as a weapon once and it was Jayneway who beamed a torpedo into a Borg ship. It never occurred to anyone else any other time.


Right. A hyper-destructive female...just like Godzilla.
 
2014-05-17 09:33:41 PM

Xcott: Plus, their computer technology is far more advanced.  They're tapping touch screens while the crew of the star destroyer are pulling levers amid giant banks of pushbuttons.  Hell, even copying a file is some impossible thing in the Star Wars universe.  Remember how Episode IV was all about the Empire trying to track down the "technical readouts" of the Death Star, hidden in R2D2?  Sending troops to Tatooine to retrieve the one copy that could possibly exist?


Yeah, that's great. Touchscreens, pretty computers, holographic playrooms...

The Empire built a weapon that can explode planets. And after they lost it they built another one and used it to destroy fleets. If there's a war between a tribe of advanced pacifists and a tribe of stubborn warmongers you know the second tribe is going to win.

The Empire doesn't have redshirts. They have Stormtroopers.
 
2014-05-17 09:34:13 PM

TuteTibiImperes: While the lasers on the Star Destroyer wouldn't cause any trouble for the Enterprise, depending on who was in command, there may be other considerations.


Do those look like lasers?

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2014-05-17 09:34:21 PM
Enterprise:

Top sublight speed: 90%+ lightspeed

Weapon range: 200,000 km

Main Weapons: Phasers, which are capable of nuclear disintegration of matter

Shields: Withstood planet-carving blasts from Doomsday weapon

Ship's hull: withstood a nuclear blast 100 meters away with no shields.

Sensors: Can distinguish humanoid lifeforms light years away

Photon torpedoes can go FTL

Star Destroyer

Top sublight speed: about Mach 100

Weapon Range: estimated at 22,000 km

Main Weapons: Turbo-lasers, each about equal to a 16-inch battleship gun (Lucas specifically based the star destroyer's capabilities off of WWII capital ships)

Shields: Withstood multiple hits from other capital ship weapons.

Ship's Hull: buckled from impact with a careening fighter

Sensors: can't detect an enemy 300-ton starship attached to the superstructure.

Has 72 Tie Fighters.

Sorry, but Star Trek tech just blows Star wars tech away here.  I'm not saying that Star Destroyers aren't bad ass, because they are, but ST tech just overwhelms in a ship-to-ship comparison.

Can we just put this silly debate to rest now?
 
2014-05-17 09:38:24 PM

clancifer: The Enterprise could beat a Star Destroyer?


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2014-05-17 09:44:05 PM

Dhusk: Enterprise:

Top sublight speed: 90%+ lightspeed

Weapon range: 200,000 km

Main Weapons: Phasers, which are capable of nuclear disintegration of matter

Shields: Withstood planet-carving blasts from Doomsday weapon

Ship's hull: withstood a nuclear blast 100 meters away with no shields.

Sensors: Can distinguish humanoid lifeforms light years away

Photon torpedoes can go FTL

Star Destroyer

Top sublight speed: about Mach 100

Weapon Range: estimated at 22,000 km

Main Weapons: Turbo-lasers, each about equal to a 16-inch battleship gun (Lucas specifically based the star destroyer's capabilities off of WWII capital ships)

Shields: Withstood multiple hits from other capital ship weapons.

Ship's Hull: buckled from impact with a careening fighter

Sensors: can't detect an enemy 300-ton starship attached to the superstructure.

Has 72 Tie Fighters.

Sorry, but Star Trek tech just blows Star wars tech away here.  I'm not saying that Star Destroyers aren't bad ass, because they are, but ST tech just overwhelms in a ship-to-ship comparison.

Can we just put this silly debate to rest now?


Wasn't there an episode where someone hid between the nacelle's of the Enterprise? Also, I'd say sensors not detecting a ship on the superstructure is somewhat forgiveable. They didn't expect that and never set the sensors up to account for it.
 
2014-05-17 09:53:28 PM

Dhusk: Enterprise:

Top sublight speed: 90%+ lightspeed

Weapon range: 200,000 km

Main Weapons: Phasers, which are capable of nuclear disintegration of matter

Shields: Withstood planet-carving blasts from Doomsday weapon

Ship's hull: withstood a nuclear blast 100 meters away with no shields.

Sensors: Can distinguish humanoid lifeforms light years away

Photon torpedoes can go FTL

Star Destroyer

Top sublight speed: about Mach 100

Weapon Range: estimated at 22,000 km

Main Weapons: Turbo-lasers, each about equal to a 16-inch battleship gun (Lucas specifically based the star destroyer's capabilities off of WWII capital ships)

Shields: Withstood multiple hits from other capital ship weapons.

Ship's Hull: buckled from impact with a careening fighter

Sensors: can't detect an enemy 300-ton starship attached to the superstructure.

Has 72 Tie Fighters.

Sorry, but Star Trek tech just blows Star wars tech away here.  I'm not saying that Star Destroyers aren't bad ass, because they are, but ST tech just overwhelms in a ship-to-ship comparison.

Can we just put this silly debate to rest now?


You shut your whore mouth!
 
2014-05-17 09:54:48 PM

TuteTibiImperes: While the lasers on the Star Destroyer wouldn't cause any trouble for the Enterprise, depending on who was in command, there may be other considerations.


LOL. Thanks for that. I needed the laugh.
 
2014-05-17 09:55:39 PM
We know that Han shot first.

FTFY subby.
 
2014-05-17 09:58:24 PM

Dhusk: Sorry, but Star Trek tech just blows Star wars tech away here.  I'm not saying that Star Destroyers aren't bad ass, because they are, but ST tech just overwhelms in a ship-to-ship comparison.

Can we just put this silly debate to rest now?


Agreed. A much more apt comparison would be a Star Destroyer vs. an Imperial Grand Cruiser (Warhammer 40K).
 
2014-05-17 09:58:25 PM
Godzilla and Mothra are foils to one other. Mothra is graceful, loving, selfless, and creates life. Mothra is also a social being with a sense of co-operation and community. She is female. Goji on the other hand is aggressive, violent, destructive, selfish, impulsive, just an all-around dick. Way male.

/loves watching him stomp the bug
 
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