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2014-05-17 10:00:19 AM  
Last time I did shrooms, my cheeks hurt because I was laughing and smiling so much. Also, the color orange felt good.
 
2014-05-17 11:00:34 AM  
That, and it can make you bigger or give you an extra life.
 
2014-05-17 11:01:57 AM  
didn't the swiss company sandoz develop lysergic acid diethylamide for the same purpose?
 
2014-05-17 11:11:12 AM  
There's a humongous fungus among us!

...and of this humongous fungus, more of its core's spores are creeping out of the drawer, pouring over the floor, and soaring through the door. Do not ignore this lore, for the spores are their precious ore.
 
2014-05-17 11:11:27 AM  
Ecstasy will definitely cure depression, that much I can back up from my own 'experiments' in 2000. That and combining that and a hot girlfriend at the time (granted, dumber than a sack of doorknobs, but hot and a nice person) helped me over a pretty dark slump.
 
2014-05-17 11:12:58 AM  
Also a cure for not sitting in stark terror of a tree stump for over an hour. Turns out it was not actually following anyone.
 
2014-05-17 11:14:54 AM  

kling_klang_bed: Ecstasy will definitely cure depression, that much I can back up from my own 'experiments' in 2000. That and combining that and a hot girlfriend at the time (granted, dumber than a sack of doorknobs, but hot and a nice person) helped me over a pretty dark slump.


This.

That stuff should be legal and pure. Nothing bad ever happens on that stuff. In my experience anyway.
 
2014-05-17 11:15:07 AM  
Last time I did shrooms, I watched my face melt in my friend's bathroom mirror for a good half hour, giggling my ass off the entire time.  This was 18 years ago, and we were also freaking out by the midgets in the Wizard of Oz dancing in perfect synchronicity to the beat of "Money" off of Dark Side of the Moon.

/hit play at the MGM lion's third roar
 
2014-05-17 11:16:05 AM  

FunkOut: Also a cure for not sitting in stark terror of a tree stump for over an hour. Turns out it was not actually following anyone.


Of course not. A team of mutant alien salamanders was driving.
 
2014-05-17 11:17:45 AM  
I'll take "Things people have self-medicated with since the Stone Age" for $1,000, Alex.
 
2014-05-17 11:19:49 AM  
This guy's theories are full of holes.
 
2014-05-17 11:22:06 AM  
people always said 'just snap out of it and get your shiat together', but it never really clicked until the little dancing elves sang me a song about it.
 
2014-05-17 11:22:42 AM  

tylerdurden217: kling_klang_bed: Ecstasy will definitely cure depression, that much I can back up from my own 'experiments' in 2000. That and combining that and a hot girlfriend at the time (granted, dumber than a sack of doorknobs, but hot and a nice person) helped me over a pretty dark slump.

This.

That stuff should be legal and pure. Nothing bad ever happens on that stuff. In my experience anyway.


Yep, and it would curtail this stupid ass 'Molly' shiat. Apparently this generation hasn't learned that X by itself is strong the fark enough!
Lol, I also remember bright lights becoming a lot more entertaining. My friend let me borrow his prism glasses the second time around. Awwwww, fun times!
 
2014-05-17 11:26:06 AM  

SpdrJay: This guy's theories are full of holes.


And they're beautiful man.
 
2014-05-17 11:28:32 AM  

kling_klang_bed: Ecstasy will definitely cure depression, that much I can back up from my own 'experiments' in 2000. That and combining that and a hot girlfriend at the time (granted, dumber than a sack of doorknobs, but hot and a nice person) helped me over a pretty dark slump.


i found that it, if anything, worsened depression. i'm sure it has everything to do with one's personal neurochemistry, but for me the excruciating comedown from mdma put me into a long-lasting negative headspace that had way more impact on my general wellbeing than the several hours of peace and beauty and wonderfulness.
 
2014-05-17 11:34:36 AM  

tylerdurden217: kling_klang_bed: Ecstasy will definitely cure depression, that much I can back up from my own 'experiments' in 2000. That and combining that and a hot girlfriend at the time (granted, dumber than a sack of doorknobs, but hot and a nice person) helped me over a pretty dark slump.

This.

That stuff should be legal and pure. Nothing bad ever happens on that stuff. In my experience anyway.


The biggest problem with legalizing things like this is that if you can do it, you will do it while driving.

Pretty soon all cars will need an IV to test if you are coherent enough to drive.

Side note, why is it chromes spell check is so bad that it doesn't offer the correct spelling at all, and yet a copy and paste brings up the correct word FIRST in google search?
 
2014-05-17 11:36:21 AM  

kling_klang_bed: tylerdurden217: kling_klang_bed: Ecstasy will definitely cure depression, that much I can back up from my own 'experiments' in 2000. That and combining that and a hot girlfriend at the time (granted, dumber than a sack of doorknobs, but hot and a nice person) helped me over a pretty dark slump.

This.

That stuff should be legal and pure. Nothing bad ever happens on that stuff. In my experience anyway.

Yep, and it would curtail this stupid ass 'Molly' shiat. Apparently this generation hasn't learned that X by itself is strong the fark enough!
Lol, I also remember bright lights becoming a lot more entertaining. My friend let me borrow his prism glasses the second time around. Awwwww, fun times!


Yes...wanting to do pure MDMA, assuming a legit source, is waaay worse than wanting to take a pill that has been cut with whatever to make it a pill.

Or were you not aware that molly and x are the same thing?
 
2014-05-17 11:36:59 AM  

the801: kling_klang_bed: Ecstasy will definitely cure depression, that much I can back up from my own 'experiments' in 2000. That and combining that and a hot girlfriend at the time (granted, dumber than a sack of doorknobs, but hot and a nice person) helped me over a pretty dark slump.

i found that it, if anything, worsened depression. i'm sure it has everything to do with one's personal neurochemistry, but for me the excruciating comedown from mdma put me into a long-lasting negative headspace that had way more impact on my general wellbeing than the several hours of peace and beauty and wonderfulness.


Orange Juice, or anything with Vitamin C, calms the comedown (it will kill the effects though during a high on X). Then again, pretty much any drug (alcohol definitely included) depends on neurochemistry.
 
2014-05-17 11:40:52 AM  
Ah my misspent youth ...

Too bad some bad acid ended my experimentation with psychedelics.
 
2014-05-17 11:42:27 AM  
I've never tried anything mentioned in this thread. I suspect my ADD wouldn't work well with any of it, after a half hour I'd be like "TURN THIS shiat OFF" and I'd get increasingly annoyed
 
2014-05-17 11:42:36 AM  
brantgoose

I'll take "Things people have self-medicated with since the Stone Age" for $1,000, Alex.

  Terence McKenna is alive....has a fark account.....who knew?
 
2014-05-17 11:42:58 AM  

JeffMD: tylerdurden217: kling_klang_bed: Ecstasy will definitely cure depression, that much I can back up from my own 'experiments' in 2000. That and combining that and a hot girlfriend at the time (granted, dumber than a sack of doorknobs, but hot and a nice person) helped me over a pretty dark slump.

This.

That stuff should be legal and pure. Nothing bad ever happens on that stuff. In my experience anyway.

The biggest problem with legalizing things like this is that if you can do it, you will do it while driving.

Pretty soon all cars will need an IV to test if you are coherent enough to drive.

Side note, why is it chromes spell check is so bad that it doesn't offer the correct spelling at all, and yet a copy and paste brings up the correct word FIRST in google search?


That's why we need to embrace self-driving cars. You will know when this country is really free when the day comes that you can tell your car to take you to Taco Bell while you're stoned out of your mind and have a class of the finest whisky in hand.
 
2014-05-17 11:48:24 AM  

Tchernobog: kling_klang_bed: tylerdurden217: kling_klang_bed: Ecstasy will definitely cure depression, that much I can back up from my own 'experiments' in 2000. That and combining that and a hot girlfriend at the time (granted, dumber than a sack of doorknobs, but hot and a nice person) helped me over a pretty dark slump.

This.

That stuff should be legal and pure. Nothing bad ever happens on that stuff. In my experience anyway.

Yep, and it would curtail this stupid ass 'Molly' shiat. Apparently this generation hasn't learned that X by itself is strong the fark enough!
Lol, I also remember bright lights becoming a lot more entertaining. My friend let me borrow his prism glasses the second time around. Awwwww, fun times!

Yes...wanting to do pure MDMA, assuming a legit source, is waaay worse than wanting to take a pill that has been cut with whatever to make it a pill.

Or were you not aware that molly and x are the same thing?


Two different things, hence the higher rates of deaths from 'Molly'. Given, though, back when I did X those few times, there were deaths from people getting any number of things in the pills (especially dog tranquilizers). Gotta know your dealer was my motto. If they won't do the same shiat as you, steer clear! From what I understand, though, 'Molly' is much more concentrated.
 
2014-05-17 11:50:13 AM  

kling_klang_bed: Ecstasy will definitely cure depression, that much I can back up from my own 'experiments' in 2000. That and combining that and a hot girlfriend at the time (granted, dumber than a sack of doorknobs, but hot and a nice person) helped me over a pretty dark slump.


Sure it will, while you are rolling.

Same way that testosterone and growth hormone will help prevent you from being a 98-lb. weakling.  It also makes your body lazy in producing its own, in the case of MDMA and ecstasy, serotonin.

There have been numerous long-term studies that show, in the long term, it INCREASES incidence of depression.  That said, I do agree that it probably does have short-term benefits, particularly in the treatment of overwhelming sadness (death, divorce, etc.)
 
2014-05-17 11:50:18 AM  

Esroc: JeffMD: tylerdurden217: kling_klang_bed: Ecstasy will definitely cure depression, that much I can back up from my own 'experiments' in 2000. That and combining that and a hot girlfriend at the time (granted, dumber than a sack of doorknobs, but hot and a nice person) helped me over a pretty dark slump.

This.

That stuff should be legal and pure. Nothing bad ever happens on that stuff. In my experience anyway.

The biggest problem with legalizing things like this is that if you can do it, you will do it while driving.

Pretty soon all cars will need an IV to test if you are coherent enough to drive.

Side note, why is it chromes spell check is so bad that it doesn't offer the correct spelling at all, and yet a copy and paste brings up the correct word FIRST in google search?

That's why we need to embrace self-driving cars. You will know when this country is really free when the day comes that you can tell your car to take you to Taco Bell while you're stoned out of your mind and have a class of the finest whisky in hand.


We need to embrace self-driving cars to improve Chromes spell check?  Are we all trippin' balls here?
 
2014-05-17 11:58:38 AM  
I vaguely recall a mushroom induced hallucination that included a mushroom talking to me. The mushroom kept saying something about a princess being in another castle.
 
2014-05-17 11:59:20 AM  
Several Schedule I substances have potential for legitimate medical uses, but the problem is getting by the prohibition types who would rather see people suffer than be allowed to take evil narcotics. With most of these things, you need to find a medical niche that just isn't being served and work from there. I'd put my money on low-dose MDMA treatments for PTSD, given the large number of combat veterans we now have from Afghanistan and Iraq, and on psilocybin/LSD for cluster headaches.  Allowing the prescription of heroin for step-down programs has a small shot, but at least one OECD nation allows it, so who knows.
 
2014-05-17 12:00:35 PM  

kling_klang_bed: Ecstasy will definitely cure depression, that much I can back up from my own 'experiments' in 2000. That and combining that and a hot girlfriend at the time (granted, dumber than a sack of doorknobs, but hot and a nice person) helped me over a pretty dark slump.


Had a brown haired beauty about the same time. Getting good lovin on ex was the best sexual experience of my life. Haven't seen her in about 14 years. Sure do miss her sometimes
 
2014-05-17 12:13:39 PM  

brap: kling_klang_bed: Ecstasy will definitely cure depression, that much I can back up from my own 'experiments' in 2000. That and combining that and a hot girlfriend at the time (granted, dumber than a sack of doorknobs, but hot and a nice person) helped me over a pretty dark slump.

Sure it will, while you are rolling.

Same way that testosterone and growth hormone will help prevent you from being a 98-lb. weakling.  It also makes your body lazy in producing its own, in the case of MDMA and ecstasy, serotonin.

There have been numerous long-term studies that show, in the long term, it INCREASES incidence of depression.  That said, I do agree that it probably does have short-term benefits, particularly in the treatment of overwhelming sadness (death, divorce, etc.)


Same with alcohol, trust me. It can either make you chipper or turn you into a complete asshole/lunatic.

jwookie: kling_klang_bed: Ecstasy will definitely cure depression, that much I can back up from my own 'experiments' in 2000. That and combining that and a hot girlfriend at the time (granted, dumber than a sack of doorknobs, but hot and a nice person) helped me over a pretty dark slump.

Had a brown haired beauty about the same time. Getting good lovin on ex was the best sexual experience of my life. Haven't seen her in about 14 years. Sure do miss her sometimes


Lol! Had a Cuban girl around that time, 2nd generation (think of a Cuban Christina Agulera in full blown candy raver mode). What I noticed though, and what I didn't know, is that on X you can't bust a nut for the life of ya. What I'm guessing to be 2 1/2 - 3 hours later, she was exhausted and pushed me off. :-p
 
2014-05-17 12:15:33 PM  

JeffMD: tylerdurden217: kling_klang_bed: Ecstasy will definitely cure depression, that much I can back up from my own 'experiments' in 2000. That and combining that and a hot girlfriend at the time (granted, dumber than a sack of doorknobs, but hot and a nice person) helped me over a pretty dark slump.

This.

That stuff should be legal and pure. Nothing bad ever happens on that stuff. In my experience anyway.

The biggest problem with legalizing things like this is that if you can do it, you will do it while driving.

Pretty soon all cars will need an IV to test if you are coherent enough to drive.

Side note, why is it chromes spell check is so bad that it doesn't offer the correct spelling at all, and yet a copy and paste brings up the correct word FIRST in google search?


Driven several times on LSD and MDMA . Got lucky, would not recommend. Ran out of gas on I-20 one time I was so out of it. Luckily a friend drove by just as we started walking ( stumbling? )
/csb
 
2014-05-17 12:16:27 PM  

kling_klang_bed: brap: kling_klang_bed: Ecstasy will definitely cure depression, that much I can back up from my own 'experiments' in 2000. That and combining that and a hot girlfriend at the time (granted, dumber than a sack of doorknobs, but hot and a nice person) helped me over a pretty dark slump.

Sure it will, while you are rolling.

Same way that testosterone and growth hormone will help prevent you from being a 98-lb. weakling.  It also makes your body lazy in producing its own, in the case of MDMA and ecstasy, serotonin.

There have been numerous long-term studies that show, in the long term, it INCREASES incidence of depression.  That said, I do agree that it probably does have short-term benefits, particularly in the treatment of overwhelming sadness (death, divorce, etc.)

Same with alcohol, trust me. It can either make you chipper or turn you into a complete asshole/lunatic.

jwookie: kling_klang_bed: Ecstasy will definitely cure depression, that much I can back up from my own 'experiments' in 2000. That and combining that and a hot girlfriend at the time (granted, dumber than a sack of doorknobs, but hot and a nice person) helped me over a pretty dark slump.

Had a brown haired beauty about the same time. Getting good lovin on ex was the best sexual experience of my life. Haven't seen her in about 14 years. Sure do miss her sometimes

Lol! Had a Cuban girl around that time, 2nd generation (think of a Cuban Christina Agulera in full blown candy raver mode). What I noticed though, and what I didn't know, is that on X you can't bust a nut for the life of ya. What I'm guessing to be 2 1/2 - 3 hours later, she was exhausted and pushed me off. :-p


Sounds like the equivalent of my generation's "Black Beauties".  My god, you could pop two of those and fark like a horse for hours.  Now I just take my Geritol and Viagra and hope for the best.
 
2014-05-17 12:18:46 PM  

brap: kling_klang_bed: Ecstasy will definitely cure depression, that much I can back up from my own 'experiments' in 2000. That and combining that and a hot girlfriend at the time (granted, dumber than a sack of doorknobs, but hot and a nice person) helped me over a pretty dark slump.

Sure it will, while you are rolling.

Same way that testosterone and growth hormone will help prevent you from being a 98-lb. weakling.  It also makes your body lazy in producing its own, in the case of MDMA and ecstasy, serotonin.

There have been numerous long-term studies that show, in the long term, it INCREASES incidence of depression.  That said, I do agree that it probably does have short-term benefits, particularly in the treatment of overwhelming sadness (death, divorce, etc.)


This does not jive with what I have heard , source?
 
2014-05-17 12:19:15 PM  

kling_klang_bed: Tchernobog: kling_klang_bed: tylerdurden217: kling_klang_bed: Ecstasy will definitely cure depression, that much I can back up from my own 'experiments' in 2000. That and combining that and a hot girlfriend at the time (granted, dumber than a sack of doorknobs, but hot and a nice person) helped me over a pretty dark slump.

This.

That stuff should be legal and pure. Nothing bad ever happens on that stuff. In my experience anyway.

Yep, and it would curtail this stupid ass 'Molly' shiat. Apparently this generation hasn't learned that X by itself is strong the fark enough!
Lol, I also remember bright lights becoming a lot more entertaining. My friend let me borrow his prism glasses the second time around. Awwwww, fun times!

Yes...wanting to do pure MDMA, assuming a legit source, is waaay worse than wanting to take a pill that has been cut with whatever to make it a pill.

Or were you not aware that molly and x are the same thing?

Two different things, hence the higher rates of deaths from 'Molly'. Given, though, back when I did X those few times, there were deaths from people getting any number of things in the pills (especially dog tranquilizers). Gotta know your dealer was my motto. If they won't do the same shiat as you, steer clear! From what I understand, though, 'Molly' is much more concentrated.


It's a good thing you don't use it anymore.
 
2014-05-17 12:23:51 PM  

neon9: brap: kling_klang_bed: Ecstasy will definitely cure depression, that much I can back up from my own 'experiments' in 2000. That and combining that and a hot girlfriend at the time (granted, dumber than a sack of doorknobs, but hot and a nice person) helped me over a pretty dark slump.

Sure it will, while you are rolling.

Same way that testosterone and growth hormone will help prevent you from being a 98-lb. weakling.  It also makes your body lazy in producing its own, in the case of MDMA and ecstasy, serotonin.

There have been numerous long-term studies that show, in the long term, it INCREASES incidence of depression.  That said, I do agree that it probably does have short-term benefits, particularly in the treatment of overwhelming sadness (death, divorce, etc.)

This does not jive with what I have heard , source?


gaia.sunn.de
 
2014-05-17 12:25:58 PM  

bongon247: kling_klang_bed: Tchernobog: kling_klang_bed: tylerdurden217: kling_klang_bed: Ecstasy will definitely cure depression, that much I can back up from my own 'experiments' in 2000. That and combining that and a hot girlfriend at the time (granted, dumber than a sack of doorknobs, but hot and a nice person) helped me over a pretty dark slump.

This.

That stuff should be legal and pure. Nothing bad ever happens on that stuff. In my experience anyway.

Yep, and it would curtail this stupid ass 'Molly' shiat. Apparently this generation hasn't learned that X by itself is strong the fark enough!
Lol, I also remember bright lights becoming a lot more entertaining. My friend let me borrow his prism glasses the second time around. Awwwww, fun times!

Yes...wanting to do pure MDMA, assuming a legit source, is waaay worse than wanting to take a pill that has been cut with whatever to make it a pill.

Or were you not aware that molly and x are the same thing?

Two different things, hence the higher rates of deaths from 'Molly'. Given, though, back when I did X those few times, there were deaths from people getting any number of things in the pills (especially dog tranquilizers). Gotta know your dealer was my motto. If they won't do the same shiat as you, steer clear! From what I understand, though, 'Molly' is much more concentrated.

It's a good thing you don't use it anymore.


Eh, no bad experiences, I'm just not into into hard drugs and it was too much fun! I don't and won't complain about my time with it though.
 
2014-05-17 12:27:03 PM  
upload.wikimedia.org

MDMA, or Molly, Ecstacy, whatever.

upload.wikimedia.org
MDA, or Sally

Know your chemist.
 
2014-05-17 12:28:44 PM  
24.media.tumblr.com

Yes, some mushrooms are magic
 
2014-05-17 12:38:21 PM  

State_College_Arsonist: Several Schedule I substances have potential for legitimate medical uses, but the problem is getting by the prohibition types who would rather see people suffer than be allowed to take evil narcotics. With most of these things, you need to find a medical niche that just isn't being served and work from there. I'd put my money on low-dose MDMA treatments for PTSD, given the large number of combat veterans we now have from Afghanistan and Iraq, and on psilocybin/LSD for cluster headaches.  Allowing the prescription of heroin for step-down programs has a small shot, but at least one OECD nation allows it, so who knows.


Portugal should open tourist hospitals so people could try out some of those drugs (with pure drugs under medical supervision).  Here's their current policy about drugs (courtesy Wiki):

"The drug policy of Portugal was put in place in 2000, and was legally effective from July 2001. The new law maintained the status of illegality for using or possessing any drug for personal use without authorization. However, since 2001 all drugs were 'decriminalized' and there is no punishement for possession of drugs if not more than the amount allowed."

Just imagine!  Whatever you want, when you want.  And it seems the policy is working our pretty well; steady rates of reported use, lower incidences of HIV and Hep C, etc.  Unfortunately, US healthcare is about chronic treatment rather than acute cures.  There's no money in cures.
 
2014-05-17 01:26:26 PM  

indy_kid: Just imagine! Whatever you want, when you want


Sale is still illegal, so you can't just walk into a cornershop and buy stuff there.
 
2014-05-17 01:41:48 PM  
Shroom me up
 
2014-05-17 01:54:23 PM  

kling_klang_bed: neon9: brap: kling_klang_bed: Ecstasy will definitely cure depression, that much I can back up from my own 'experiments' in 2000. That and combining that and a hot girlfriend at the time (granted, dumber than a sack of doorknobs, but hot and a nice person) helped me over a pretty dark slump.

Sure it will, while you are rolling.

Same way that testosterone and growth hormone will help prevent you from being a 98-lb. weakling.  It also makes your body lazy in producing its own, in the case of MDMA and ecstasy, serotonin.

There have been numerous long-term studies that show, in the long term, it INCREASES incidence of depression.  That said, I do agree that it probably does have short-term benefits, particularly in the treatment of overwhelming sadness (death, divorce, etc.)

This does not jive with what I have heard , source?

[gaia.sunn.de image 600x315]


When I 'google it' (now that I am no longer on my phone) I end up with a mix of 'dancesafe', 'bluelight' (for the obviously pro-drug view) websites, as well as a smattering of Guardian articles that says it is a possible treatment and a Daily Mail article that says it could make it worse. So after this particular exercise, I feel like I am not much more informed than I was to begin with.

Thank you for that insight.What?
 
2014-05-17 01:58:52 PM  
Sounds like he's one study over the line, sweet Jesus
 
2014-05-17 02:06:38 PM  

neon9: When I 'google it' (now that I am no longer on my phone) I end up with a mix of 'dancesafe', 'bluelight' (for the obviously pro-drug view) websites, as well as a smattering of Guardian articles that says it is a possible treatment and a Daily Mail article that says it could make it worse. So after this particular exercise, I feel like I am not much more informed than I was to begin with.

Thank you for that insight.What?


Try Googling "studies of the effects of MDMA and Ecstacy on depression" rather than "Woooo!  DJ Manpanties just put on Firestarter, Yo this Molly is sweet have I ever told you your eyes are beautiful brah?"
 
2014-05-17 02:15:18 PM  

phaseolus: I've never tried anything mentioned in this thread. I suspect my ADD wouldn't work well with any of it, after a half hour I'd be like "TURN THIS shiat OFF" and I'd get increasingly annoyed


My ADD works well with Mushrooms.  I stopped doing acid years ago.
 
2014-05-17 02:16:08 PM  

State_College_Arsonist: Several Schedule I substances have potential for legitimate medical uses, but the problem is getting by the prohibition types who would rather see people suffer than be allowed to take evil narcotics. With most of these things, you need to find a medical niche that just isn't being served and work from there. I'd put my money on low-dose MDMA treatments for PTSD, given the large number of combat veterans we now have from Afghanistan and Iraq, and on psilocybin/LSD for cluster headaches.  Allowing the prescription of heroin for step-down programs has a small shot, but at least one OECD nation allows it, so who knows.


As a combat vet who used to have profound PTSD that was cured with MDMA therapy, I concur.

http://burners.me/2013/11/27/miss-molly-goes-to-war/

My buddy:

http://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/236o6g/im_a_veteran_who_overcam e _treatmentresistant_ptsd/

My AMA is next month.

Also, pure MDMA is indeed molly, and is ONE of the ingredients in x. Most people that have died were sold methylone aka bath salts and were told it was Molly. They also normally took around 5 pills a piece.
 
2014-05-17 02:17:20 PM  

phaseolus: I've never tried anything mentioned in this thread. I suspect my ADD wouldn't work well with any of it, after a half hour I'd be like "TURN THIS shiat OFF" and I'd get increasingly annoyed


My ADD does just fine with Mushrooms.
 
2014-05-17 02:17:57 PM  

brap: neon9: When I 'google it' (now that I am no longer on my phone) I end up with a mix of 'dancesafe', 'bluelight' (for the obviously pro-drug view) websites, as well as a smattering of Guardian articles that says it is a possible treatment and a Daily Mail article that says it could make it worse. So after this particular exercise, I feel like I am not much more informed than I was to begin with.

Thank you for that insight.What?

Try Googling "studies of the effects of MDMA and Ecstacy on depression" rather than "Woooo!  DJ Manpanties just put on Firestarter, Yo this Molly is sweet have I ever told you your eyes are beautiful brah?"


The best place to look up is MAPS.org.
 
2014-05-17 02:18:43 PM  

bongon247: [upload.wikimedia.org image 200x88]

MDMA, or Molly, Ecstacy, whatever.

[upload.wikimedia.org image 220x76]
MDA, or Sally

Know your chemist.


OK,  the NH2  is an amine functional group.  Is there a name for the NH group?  Even more confusing in that MDMA is (±)-1,3-benzodioxolyl-N-methyl-2-propanamine, which still ends in -amine.

/tricky chemical names
//later, after more google: would have been nice to know there was a couple of implied methyl groups in there at the ends of those 'empty' bonds
 
2014-05-17 02:19:38 PM  

brap: neon9: When I 'google it' (now that I am no longer on my phone) I end up with a mix of 'dancesafe', 'bluelight' (for the obviously pro-drug view) websites, as well as a smattering of Guardian articles that says it is a possible treatment and a Daily Mail article that says it could make it worse. So after this particular exercise, I feel like I am not much more informed than I was to begin with.

Thank you for that insight.What?

Try Googling "studies of the effects of MDMA and Ecstacy on depression" rather than "Woooo!  DJ Manpanties just put on Firestarter, Yo this Molly is sweet have I ever told you your eyes are beautiful brah?"


Or google "Tony Macie MDMA" or "MAPS MDMA PTSD"
 
2014-05-17 02:23:33 PM  

neon9: kling_klang_bed: neon9: brap: kling_klang_bed: Ecstasy will definitely cure depression, that much I can back up from my own 'experiments' in 2000. That and combining that and a hot girlfriend at the time (granted, dumber than a sack of doorknobs, but hot and a nice person) helped me over a pretty dark slump.

Sure it will, while you are rolling.

Same way that testosterone and growth hormone will help prevent you from being a 98-lb. weakling.  It also makes your body lazy in producing its own, in the case of MDMA and ecstasy, serotonin.

There have been numerous long-term studies that show, in the long term, it INCREASES incidence of depression.  That said, I do agree that it probably does have short-term benefits, particularly in the treatment of overwhelming sadness (death, divorce, etc.)

This does not jive with what I have heard , source?

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When I 'google it' (now that I am no longer on my phone) I end up with a mix of 'dancesafe', 'bluelight' (for the obviously pro-drug view) websites, as well as a smattering of Guardian articles that says it is a possible treatment and a Daily Mail article that says it could make it worse. So after this particular exercise, I feel like I am not much more informed than I was to begin with.

Thank you for that insight.What?


You are linking to The Guardian and Daily Mail for reliable facts?

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