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2014-05-17 11:12:04 AM  

oukewldave: I still don't know why executions aren't public.  They could show it on PPV. I'd watch. They could get creative with it.  Like Gladiators style.  You defeat this lion with a fork, you get to go free.


Better yet, have life imitate art. Like real life Death Race, or do something like the movie the condemned where we put em on a booby trapped island against eachother and let the last one alive go. Or hopefully the future can bring us some shiat like in Gamer. Movies give us all these awesome ideas and yet we never use them..... Pity.....
 
m00
2014-05-17 11:14:40 AM  

Dwight_Yeast: Mugato: I don't know why they don't do this. It's quick, easy and doesn't leave too much of a mess. Lethal injection is too complicated and the electric chair is some medieval shiat (if they used electricity back then).

Because it has a serious negative psychological impact on the firing squad themselves.


Too bad.

I'm sorry but if society wants to kill a prisoner we need to own the moral consequences. Saying "we need to automate executions so there is no psychological consequences" is like saying "we need to do away with juries because it's not fair to make a juror see all that bloody evidence"

We should have firing squads. And if nobody wants to pull the trigger it should be treated like a jury nullification (sentence reverts to life)
 
2014-05-17 11:19:00 AM  
Trash bags and paint thinner. Cheaper, death by huffing.
 
2014-05-17 11:20:17 AM  
I think if I got to choose my own I'd want the guillotine. Seems like it would be quick and painless and nicely gruesome for onlookers.  And right before the lights go out you might sense yourself diving into the bowl or wherever your head ends up. Could be good for some final lulz.
 
2014-05-17 11:23:37 AM  
Max should be lifetime sentence, with prisoner requested euthanasia for those with such sentences once they're ready to go, make sure everything is in order, and then let them go in a humane way. Regardless of what they did, they're still human, and an uncomfortable fact is that a different set of circumstances about one's life could lead one human to murder another or more depraved behaviors, sometimes even random, poor luck circumstances such as mental illness.

They may be messed up people, but they're still people. In addition, lifetime prison is cheaper than the death penalty as-is, and is slightly more reversible than death if advanced police techniques exonerate them in the future. Slightly.
 
2014-05-17 11:24:12 AM  
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2014-05-17 11:28:43 AM  
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2014-05-17 11:28:51 AM  

Abox: I think if I got to choose my own I'd want the guillotine. Seems like it would be quick and painless and nicely gruesome for onlookers.  And right before the lights go out you might sense yourself diving into the bowl or wherever your head ends up. Could be good for some final lulz.


You know you're still alive for like two minutes after those right? You can still see and hear everything
 
m00
2014-05-17 11:39:34 AM  
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/what, are you gay?
 
2014-05-17 11:42:58 AM  

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This
 
2014-05-17 11:43:01 AM  
50 millimeter rifle shot straight to the head.  The executed's brain would be liquified before the nerve synapses can fire to register anything.
 
2014-05-17 11:46:02 AM  

Scott_Free: 1 word: Helium


Hydrogen. And a spark
 
2014-05-17 11:46:45 AM  
There are some sadistic motherfarkers in this thread.
 
2014-05-17 11:48:45 AM  
Just get rid of it.  Pointless, stupid, solves nothing, deters nobody, costs a ton of money, and makes us all murderers in the eyes of the world.

"But they need to be punished!"

Live long enough, life punishes you.  Ever see someone go through cancer?  Or heart disease?  Or the other things that come with old age?  Or even just watching your face change as it gets wrinkled and ugly.  No, if you really want them to be punished you'll let them live nice, long lives.  Death is the easy way out.  Make them live each one of their miserable years.
 
2014-05-17 11:51:29 AM  

Mugato: There are some sadistic motherfarkers in this thread.


Sadism and the death penalty go hand in hand.
 
2014-05-17 11:54:07 AM  

zarker: Abox: I think if I got to choose my own I'd want the guillotine. Seems like it would be quick and painless and nicely gruesome for onlookers.  And right before the lights go out you might sense yourself diving into the bowl or wherever your head ends up. Could be good for some final lulz.

You know you're still alive for like two minutes after those right? You can still see and hear everything


I doubt that, but even so that would be my choice.
 
2014-05-17 11:57:59 AM  

burning_bridge: Just get rid of it.  Pointless, stupid, solves nothing, deters nobody, costs a ton of money, and makes us all murderers in the eyes of the world.

"But they need to be punished!"

Live long enough, life punishes you.  Ever see someone go through cancer?  Or heart disease?  Or the other things that come with old age?  Or even just watching your face change as it gets wrinkled and ugly.  No, if you really want them to be punished you'll let them live nice, long lives.  Death is the easy way out.  Make them live each one of their miserable years.


This. So much this. Farking barbaric, and a lot of our citizens are barbarians.

In the meantime, force legislatures and governors to be the executioners. If someone is going to have the psychological problems, make it the farking barbarians who voted for it. Voted to uphold the death penalty? You pull the lever.
 
2014-05-17 12:06:17 PM  

burning_bridge: Ever see someone go through cancer? Or heart disease?


So, we should find a way to give them cancer?
 
2014-05-17 12:12:51 PM  

Hilary T. N. Seuss: onyxruby: I never understood why they don't use carbon monoxide poisoning from an engine. It's known to work from people accidentally asphyxiating themselves in garages or using it for suicide. It's painless and you pass away before you die and as far as I know doesn't have the nasty side effects of electrocution or lethal injection. From what I've heard it's the method of choice that animal shelters use when they have to put down unwanted pets. If you have to execute someone it should be done cleanly.

The problem with that is you have to either (a) release a poisonous gas within the prison facility, or (b) send the prisoner away somewhere meaning he could escape or have protesters along the route, etc. Solution: nitrogen gas asphyxiation.


They used to do it in CA with the cyanide gas chamber. The gas would be vented out the roof after the prisoner died.
 
2014-05-17 12:17:48 PM  

onyxruby: In the US someone who has been execute can't have their organs donated.


Definitely not after seeing that Ray Liotta movie.
 
2014-05-17 12:19:03 PM  
Three guys are walking through a jungle when they are caught and taken prisoner by a savage tribe. The tribe chief says to the first man, "I will give you two choices. Death, or bungie."

The man, not knowing what 'bungie' was, decided to choose that, because anything could be better than death. So the tribe proceeded to sodomize him repeatedly, for over an hour until he could barely walk. He stumbled away in tears as the other two men watched in horror.

The chief asks the second man, "Death, or bungie?" The man was horrified by what he had seen, but still would rather not die. He chose bungie, and the tribe proceeded to sodomize him even more viciously than the first man, for hours and hours, leaving him permanently crippled. He dragged himself away, sobbing.

The chief asked the last man, "Death or bungie?" The man decided that anything could be better than this 'bungie', even death. "I choose death!" the man exclaimed, bravely. The chief smiled. "Very well. Death.. by bungie!"
 
2014-05-17 12:20:20 PM  
There's really a quite simple solution to these problems. All we have to do is stop executing people like a civilized nation. But that's not going to happen anytime soon, so I vote for guillotines. Quick, effective, and pretty much fail safe. No, you're not alive (or at least conscious) more than a couple seconds and it's nice and bloody for the sadists.
 
2014-05-17 12:22:16 PM  

burning_bridge: Just get rid of it.  Pointless, stupid, solves nothing, deters nobody, costs a ton of money, and makes us all murderers in the eyes of the world.

"But they need to be punished!"

Live long enough, life punishes you.  Ever see someone go through cancer?  Or heart disease?  Or the other things that come with old age?  Or even just watching your face change as it gets wrinkled and ugly.  No, if you really want them to be punished you'll let them live nice, long lives.  Death is the easy way out.  Make them live each one of their miserable years.


It's a good thing you're so enlightened and merciful.

"Sure, we force people to spend the rest of their days trapped in a cage, deprived of any sort of freedom or personal agency, even preventing them from ending their own lives, but at least we aren't murderers."


Death isn't such a big deal and the West needs to stop being a bunch of farking children about it.
 
2014-05-17 12:24:12 PM  
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You contemptible pig! I remained celibate for you. I stood at the back of a cathedral, waiting, in celibacy, for you, with three hundred friends and relatives in attendance. My uncle hired the best Romanian caterers in the state. To obtain the seven limousines for the wedding party, my father used up his last favor with Mad Pete Trullo. So for me, for my mother, my grandmother, my father, my uncle, and for the common good, I must now kill you, and your brother.
 
2014-05-17 12:25:12 PM  
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2014-05-17 12:27:00 PM  

DrExplosion: burning_bridge: Just get rid of it.  Pointless, stupid, solves nothing, deters nobody, costs a ton of money, and makes us all murderers in the eyes of the world.

"But they need to be punished!"

Live long enough, life punishes you.  Ever see someone go through cancer?  Or heart disease?  Or the other things that come with old age?  Or even just watching your face change as it gets wrinkled and ugly.  No, if you really want them to be punished you'll let them live nice, long lives.  Death is the easy way out.  Make them live each one of their miserable years.

It's a good thing you're so enlightened and merciful.

"Sure, we force people to spend the rest of their days trapped in a cage, deprived of any sort of freedom or personal agency, even preventing them from ending their own lives, but at least we aren't murderers."


Death isn't such a big deal and the West needs to stop being a bunch of farking children about it.


Alright. You go first.
 
2014-05-17 12:36:41 PM  

HMS_Blinkin: Mugato: I don't know why they don't do this. It's quick, easy and doesn't leave too much of a mess. Lethal injection is too complicated and the electric chair is some medieval shiat (if they used electricity back then).

It also leaves most organs available for harvesting/donation. That can't be said of electrocution or lethal injection.


Except the brain. You don't want the brain: especially if its Abby Normal's.
 
2014-05-17 12:37:27 PM  
Firing squads are still too PC for the effect that corporal punishments are supposed to have.

The punishment was supposed to be so severe, so painful that no sane person would ever commit said crimes.  Drawn and quartered by horses, beheadings, hangings, stonings.....those are how you prevent crime with corporal punishments.  They have to fear the end, not welcome it.
 
2014-05-17 12:38:32 PM  

DON.MAC: The problem with the painless gasses is that people thrash around when their O2 levels get too low some times making it look like they are in a great deal of pain.  That seems to be built into the autonomic nervous system and the diaphragm will stat to spasm much like the hiccups.  Skeletal muscles can also start to spasm with low oxygen levels as well.


Are you sure about that? I thought that was only due to increased CO2 concentrations, not decreased O2...
 
2014-05-17 12:44:49 PM  
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Pile Driver, one quick splat and its over.
 
2014-05-17 12:46:33 PM  
Aw, heck. Why not just dip them in a big vat of liquid nitrogen and then drop them on a concrete floor?
 
2014-05-17 12:48:24 PM  
I say, bring back Trial by Combat. Let the accused chose his champion, and let America choose hers. Now, America's champion is the atomic bomb, so to prove your innocence, all you have to do is not disintegrate at the atomic level.

//let them appeal over radioactive dust and bones.
//some one send for Rossart!
 
2014-05-17 12:48:35 PM  

RobSeace: UNAUTHORIZED FINGER: Helium is cool though, because when the condemned man says his last words, they come out all high-pitched and comical, adding a little levity to what otherwise is a rather somber event. You gotta think of the kiddies.

Or, for the real horrible criminals, give them sulfur hexafluoride, so they sound super-scary and bad-ass! Or, just give them all nitrous oxide, and let them laugh themselves to death...


Wah  Wah  Wah  Wah  Wah  Wah  Wah  Wah  Wah  Wah  Wah  Wah  Wah  Wah  Wah  Wah  Wah  Wah
 
2014-05-17 12:48:37 PM  

andyofne: burning_bridge: Ever see someone go through cancer? Or heart disease?

So, we should find a way to give them cancer?


Final cigarettes?
 
2014-05-17 12:51:32 PM  
Save them for Shark Week.
 
2014-05-17 12:59:08 PM  

LoneWolf343: DrExplosion: burning_bridge: Just get rid of it.  Pointless, stupid, solves nothing, deters nobody, costs a ton of money, and makes us all murderers in the eyes of the world.

"But they need to be punished!"

Live long enough, life punishes you.  Ever see someone go through cancer?  Or heart disease?  Or the other things that come with old age?  Or even just watching your face change as it gets wrinkled and ugly.  No, if you really want them to be punished you'll let them live nice, long lives.  Death is the easy way out.  Make them live each one of their miserable years.

It's a good thing you're so enlightened and merciful.

"Sure, we force people to spend the rest of their days trapped in a cage, deprived of any sort of freedom or personal agency, even preventing them from ending their own lives, but at least we aren't murderers."


Death isn't such a big deal and the West needs to stop being a bunch of farking children about it.

Alright. You go first.


Men have tried and failed to kill me but succeeded at killing my friends, and I've responded by killing them right back. It's dirty and unpleasant, but it isn't magic. I'm alive, they aren't, the world keeps spinning.

Most people in the West grow up in a bizarre, sheltered bubble where people reach "adulthood" without really being confronted with mortality, so when someone finally does die, everyone freaks out and acts like the sky is falling. Death is a thing that happens, and as a society we put too much value on "life."  Today's America would never have made it across the Atlantic, spread to the Pacific, learned to fly, or made it to the moon. One's own death is generally to be avoided if it can be done without compromising one's principles, and people are right to feel sad when their loved ones die, but we take it too far with our "life at any cost" philosophy. The fact that there is any sort of controversy regarding the right of a terminally ill individual to end their own life is a fine example of what I'm talking about.

But most relevantly, it's laughably hypocritical that anyone would acknowledge life in prison as a fate worse than death and in the same breath condemn capital punishment as sadistic or barbaric.
 
2014-05-17 01:06:14 PM  
My idea: a large heavy steel plate. Place anesthetized inmate on plate. Drop a multi-ton steel weight with large flat bottom onto him, crushing him instantly into a thin paste. Requires some cleanup but extremely quick and absolutely foolproof.
 
2014-05-17 01:12:05 PM  
I'd say bring back the chair, personally.   And if its a truly evil person, allow people to have their electricity turned off so more kilowattage can be channeled into the chair.
 
2014-05-17 01:12:42 PM  

TheWarp: Scott_Free: 1 word: Helium

Perfectly good helium that could be used for scientific research? Nope.

/12 rounds of 5.56x45 is much cheaper.


5.56? You want to tickle the guy to death?
 
2014-05-17 01:33:15 PM  

burning_bridge: Just get rid of it.  Pointless, stupid, solves nothing, deters nobody, costs a ton of money, and makes us all murderers in the eyes of the world.

"But they need to be punished!"

Live long enough, life punishes you.  Ever see someone go through cancer?  Or heart disease?  Or the other things that come with old age?  Or even just watching your face change as it gets wrinkled and ugly.  No, if you really want them to be punished you'll let them live nice, long lives.  Death is the easy way out.  Make them live each one of their miserable years.


"[S]olves nothing"? Two words: zero recidivism.  Since you seem to want them to "live nice, long lives", how about we let 'em come live at your place? And please don't ask for grocery money.

Joking and sound bites aside: Conviction of heinous crimes shows one's (utter lack of) regard for the moral structure of society. Due to their profound contempt for this structure, the society cannot rightly regard the convicted as fit to be part of it and they should be expelled from it. Rather than keep the condemned confined until they expire on their own (a pointless punishment, as there is no opportunity to demonstrate repentance; not necessarily in the religious sense of the word), society is actually demonstrating mercy by sending the offender to meet their own personal Final Arbiter - be it their god, if they believe in one; their next life, if they believe in such; or an empty eternity, if that is their belief - without undue delay.

It is not 'eye-for-an-eye' per se, as the method of execution is not in parity with their transgression. Neither is it necessarily for vengeance because:
1) "vengeance is mine, saith the Lord" demonstrates to the religious that revenge is a sin unto itself,
2) the same passage demonstrates to the religious that their God will be the Final Arbiter mentioned above, meaning that Man is unfit to dispense lethal judgment upon another, and by disregarding the moral structure of society the condemned disregards the righteousness of God, and
3) Irrespective of faith - or disbelief - the dead victim does not kill the condemned, nor does the family of the victim. The State performs the execution, and so the family cannot claim to have had a hand in avenging the dead.

The main reason that the State dispenses the punishment is because the crime was so heinous and irreverent of society that the State was indeed a victim of the convicted's actions. Send them to their Final Arbiter, and be done with it. Of course, this is predicated on the State's due diligence to rightly and correctly ascertain guilt - a whole other discussion by itself.
 
2014-05-17 01:38:36 PM  
I thought the Obamacare death panels would take care of this?
 
2014-05-17 01:43:21 PM  
ah, yes - the mormon concept of "blood atonement." it's so 21st century!
 
2014-05-17 01:50:49 PM  
There are two simple ways states with execution could stop botching them.

1. Use drugs that we already know kill people, like morphine. You give enough Morph to anyone and it's adios muchachos. And less traumatized witnesses too.
2. Stop state-sanctioned murder.

I know. It seems TOO obvious.
 
2014-05-17 01:57:52 PM  
With square bullets!

/amirite?
 
2014-05-17 01:58:35 PM  
Or do what some native tribes used to (and some still) do:

Exile them to an uninhabited island with a harsh environment, with nothing but the clothes on their back.

This strikes me as much more civilized. And just, especially for the most heinous and basest of criminals.
 
2014-05-17 02:01:49 PM  

oukewldave: I still don't know why executions aren't public.  They could show it on PPV. I'd watch. They could get creative with it.  Like Gladiators style.  You defeat this lion with a fork, you get to go free.


Rootus: It should be brutal and public (not PPV, that just attracts the sickos, it should preempt local programming). If we're going to kill people we should be well aware of it. Sanitizing it just absolves us all of really thinking about it.


The problem I see with PPV is you are turning it into a profit center, which like for profit prisons, would end up killing innocent people for the dollar.
"We have to fill the line up for tonight's execution."

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2014-05-17 02:19:33 PM  

KyDave: The main reason that the State dispenses the punishment is because the crime was so heinous and irreverent of society that the State was indeed a victim of the convicted's actions. Send them to their Final Arbiter, and be done with it. Of course, this is predicated on the State's due diligence to rightly and correctly ascertain guilt - a whole other discussion by itself.


And what about all the people on death row who were found not guilty because of new evidence (and by implication we can assume that some innocents were executed), collateral damage?
 
m00
2014-05-17 03:22:21 PM  

Mugato: And what about all the people on death row who were found not guilty because of new evidence (and by implication we can assume that some innocents were executed), collateral damage?


What do you mean? If they weren't guilty, the prosecutor would have charged them in the first place.
 
2014-05-17 03:33:27 PM  
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2014-05-17 03:36:08 PM  
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