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(Deadspin)   And today's "not my fault" failed drug test by a NFL player is brought to you by Colts linebacker Robert Mathis and the fertility drugs he was taking to get his wife pregnant. Bonus: The fertility drugs worked   (deadspin.com) divider line 46
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2014-05-17 08:44:47 AM  
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2014-05-17 09:31:33 AM  
Look do you know how hard it is to make a phone call to confirm the drugs you've been prescribed are not on the list of NFL banned substances? or contain something that may make you test positive for a banned substance? Well let me tell you, it's pretty hard.
 
2014-05-17 09:37:23 AM  
He never said it wasn't his fault. In fact, he takes the blame for not checking/clearing it with the league and NFLPA before hand.
 
2014-05-17 09:39:43 AM  
If it's true, then good for him for stepping up and admitting it. And bad on the NFL for banning fertility drugs.
 
2014-05-17 09:47:14 AM  
IIRC, that drug isn't even useful for men to take as a fertility drug.
I could be wrong on the however.
 
2014-05-17 09:55:29 AM  

VTGremlin: If it's true, then good for him for stepping up and admitting it. And bad on the NFL for banning fertility drugs.


I'm guessing fertility drugs change hormone levels in ways that could mask other doping methods. Like Manny Ramirez taking the female fertility drugs a while back to restart testosterone production after a round of steroids
 
2014-05-17 10:01:50 AM  

LarryDan43: Look do you know how hard it is to make a phone call to confirm the drugs you've been prescribed are not on the list of NFL banned substances? or contain something that may make you test positive for a banned substance? Well let me tell you, it's pretty hard.


Well, a quick google search for "phone number for banned nfl substances" brings back about 14,400,000 results.  Who's got that kinda time?  Especially when you've got some sexing to do.
 
2014-05-17 10:10:24 AM  
Brings new meaning to "Performance Enhancing Drug".
 
2014-05-17 10:11:26 AM  
It is a female fertility drug. It has been tested to be used as a treatment for hypogonadism (with some success) but the FDA has not approved it.

However, what it is used for (in men) is post-cycle therapy for an anabolic steroid cycle.

In other words: he is full of shiat. He already has a few kids, too
 
2014-05-17 10:11:46 AM  

RedZoneTuba: Brings new meaning to "Performance Enhancing Drug".


He needed to get deeper into the red zone.
 
2014-05-17 10:17:04 AM  
Hire Richard Sherman's lawyers, they'll get him right out of that deserved suspension.
 
2014-05-17 10:17:42 AM  

FirstNationalBastard: RedZoneTuba: Brings new meaning to "Performance Enhancing Drug".

He needed to get deeper into the red zone.


In order to score, you gotta get balls deep.

/phrasing
 
2014-05-17 10:27:27 AM  
Oh, and i believe this is the same drug Manny Ramirez was busted for a couple years back.
 
2014-05-17 10:33:16 AM  
This drug is often taken when a steroid user cycles off the roids.
 
2014-05-17 10:39:28 AM  

Doktor_Zhivago: VTGremlin: If it's true, then good for him for stepping up and admitting it. And bad on the NFL for banning fertility drugs.

I'm guessing fertility drugs change hormone levels in ways that could mask other doping methods. Like Manny Ramirez taking the female fertility drugs a while back to restart testosterone production after a round of steroids


Yep. If you are going to ban one, you have to ban the other
 
2014-05-17 10:51:40 AM  
As a PFM fan, and the fact that Mathis will miss the Broncos home opener against the Colts, I am O.K. with this. No more of this:

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2014-05-17 10:56:27 AM  

LarryDan43: Look do you know how hard it is to make a phone call to confirm the drugs you've been prescribed are not on the list of NFL banned substances? or contain something that may make you test positive for a banned substance? Well let me tell you, it's pretty hard.


You'd think an NFL player would have access to a number of highly trained doctors to answer such a question especially if he's in a fertility program
 
2014-05-17 11:01:45 AM  

Summoner101: LarryDan43: Look do you know how hard it is to make a phone call to confirm the drugs you've been prescribed are not on the list of NFL banned substances? or contain something that may make you test positive for a banned substance? Well let me tell you, it's pretty hard.

You'd think an NFL player would have access to a number of highly trained doctors to answer such a question especially if he's in a fertility program


Sometimes guys don't notify the NFL because of ignorance to the rules. But in situations like this they don't notify the NFL because they know that the NFL won't waive the rules for their treatment.
 
2014-05-17 11:06:38 AM  

iron_city_ap: He never said it wasn't his fault. In fact, he takes the blame for not checking/clearing it with the league and NFLPA before hand.


VTGremlin: If it's true, then good for him for stepping up and admitting it. And bad on the NFL for banning fertility drugs.


He's taken responsibility. His agent, on the other hand... well, let's say the NFL is kind of pissed at him.
 
2014-05-17 11:09:43 AM  

desertgeek: iron_city_ap: He never said it wasn't his fault. In fact, he takes the blame for not checking/clearing it with the league and NFLPA before hand.

VTGremlin: If it's true, then good for him for stepping up and admitting it. And bad on the NFL for banning fertility drugs.

He's taken responsibility. His agent, on the other hand... well, let's say the NFL is kind of pissed at him.


Why would they be pissed at his agent? Unless he told his agent, he isn't going to have the details of his medical treatments.
 
2014-05-17 11:10:22 AM  

SilentStrider: IIRC, that drug isn't even useful for men to take as a fertility drug.
I could be wrong on the however.


Yes, it is useful for men as a fertility drug.

machoprogrammer: It is a female fertility drug. It has been tested to be used as a treatment for hypogonadism (with some success) but the FDA has not approved it.

However, what it is used for (in men) is post-cycle therapy for an anabolic steroid cycle.

In other words: he is full of shiat. He already has a few kids, too


Lots of drugs are prescribed by doctors outside their FDA approved bounds.  Look at what Oxycontin is actually only approved for, and look what all it's prescribed for.  Clomid is a well known, and widely accepted medication for infertlity and has been precribed to men for years.

Yet, he didn't test positive for Steroids, nor has he ever.  There's been no difference in his ability or size from this year to any other year.  His head didn't grow 10 hat sizes like Barry Bonds.  The fact that he has a few kids, who are significantly older, doesn't mean that infertility isn't an issue as he gets older.  In fact, infertility is much more common in your 30's than in your 20's.
 
2014-05-17 11:18:34 AM  

andychrist420: FirstNationalBastard: RedZoneTuba: Brings new meaning to "Performance Enhancing Drug".

He needed to get deeper into the red zone.

In order to score, you gotta get balls deep.

/phrasing


He's not going to conceive if he puts it in the end zone.
 
2014-05-17 11:20:59 AM  

foo monkey: andychrist420: FirstNationalBastard: RedZoneTuba: Brings new meaning to "Performance Enhancing Drug".

He needed to get deeper into the red zone.

In order to score, you gotta get balls deep.

/phrasing

He's not going to conceive if he puts it in the end zone.


But an end around might but work
 
2014-05-17 11:21:57 AM  

andychrist420: foo monkey: andychrist420: FirstNationalBastard: RedZoneTuba: Brings new meaning to "Performance Enhancing Drug".

He needed to get deeper into the red zone.

In order to score, you gotta get balls deep.

/phrasing

He's not going to conceive if he puts it in the end zone.

But an end around might but just work


FTFM
 
2014-05-17 11:56:26 AM  
He's been one of the best at penetrating gaps for a years.
 
2014-05-17 11:59:36 AM  
Every year, PED's get better and harder to detect.

Every year, tests get better at detecting PED's.

The only thing that never seems to get better is flimsy excuses.
 
2014-05-17 12:45:10 PM  
I can't imagine that someone who spends any amount of time in an NFL locker room doesn't know what clomid is or what it does.
 
2014-05-17 12:55:12 PM  

LarryDan43: Look do you know how hard it is to make a phone call to confirm the drugs you've been prescribed are not on the list of NFL banned substances? or contain something that may make you test positive for a banned substance? Well let me tell you, it's pretty hard.


Well for us yeah but for an actual NFL player on a team I would guess its a 2 minute phone call to the team saying "hey my doc gave me these pills so I can knock up the wife, that OK?"
 
2014-05-17 01:08:29 PM  

HideAndGoFarkYourself: SilentStrider: IIRC, that drug isn't even useful for men to take as a fertility drug.
I could be wrong on the however.

Yes, it is useful for men as a fertility drug.

machoprogrammer: It is a female fertility drug. It has been tested to be used as a treatment for hypogonadism (with some success) but the FDA has not approved it.

However, what it is used for (in men) is post-cycle therapy for an anabolic steroid cycle.

In other words: he is full of shiat. He already has a few kids, too

Lots of drugs are prescribed by doctors outside their FDA approved bounds.  Look at what Oxycontin is actually only approved for, and look what all it's prescribed for.  Clomid is a well known, and widely accepted medication for infertlity and has been precribed to men for years.

Yet, he didn't test positive for Steroids, nor has he ever.  There's been no difference in his ability or size from this year to any other year.  His head didn't grow 10 hat sizes like Barry Bonds.  The fact that he has a few kids, who are significantly older, doesn't mean that infertility isn't an issue as he gets older.  In fact, infertility is much more common in your 30's than in your 20's.


On top of that, he was taking them because his wife has a medical condition which prohibits her from taking Clomid.
 
Oak
2014-05-17 01:19:47 PM  

redmid17: HideAndGoFarkYourself: SilentStrider: IIRC, that drug isn't even useful for men to take as a fertility drug.
I could be wrong on the however.

Yes, it is useful for men as a fertility drug.

machoprogrammer: It is a female fertility drug. It has been tested to be used as a treatment for hypogonadism (with some success) but the FDA has not approved it.

However, what it is used for (in men) is post-cycle therapy for an anabolic steroid cycle.

In other words: he is full of shiat. He already has a few kids, too

Lots of drugs are prescribed by doctors outside their FDA approved bounds.  Look at what Oxycontin is actually only approved for, and look what all it's prescribed for.  Clomid is a well known, and widely accepted medication for infertlity and has been precribed to men for years.

Yet, he didn't test positive for Steroids, nor has he ever.  There's been no difference in his ability or size from this year to any other year.  His head didn't grow 10 hat sizes like Barry Bonds.  The fact that he has a few kids, who are significantly older, doesn't mean that infertility isn't an issue as he gets older.  In fact, infertility is much more common in your 30's than in your 20's.

On top of that, he was taking them because his wife has a medical condition which prohibits her from taking Clomid.


So he'd take it, and then inject her?

/He was cycling off 'roids, of course - just mistimed it this time
 
2014-05-17 01:26:04 PM  

HideAndGoFarkYourself: Yet, he didn't test positive for Steroids, nor has he ever. There's been no difference in his ability or size from this year to any other year. His head didn't grow 10 hat sizes like Barry Bonds. The fact that he has a few kids, who are significantly older, doesn't mean that infertility isn't an issue as he gets older. In fact, infertility is much more common in your 30's than in your 20's.


Or another reason his size and ability have never changed much is because he has ALWAYS been on the stuff.  And not everybody gets a gigantic head when they do steroids.  Also, his kids were born in 2012, not exactly what I would call a "significant" time ago.

Is it possible he is telling the truth?  Yes.  Is it more likely he is lying his ass off?  Yes.
 
2014-05-17 01:50:49 PM  

Oak: redmid17: HideAndGoFarkYourself: SilentStrider: IIRC, that drug isn't even useful for men to take as a fertility drug.
I could be wrong on the however.

Yes, it is useful for men as a fertility drug.

machoprogrammer: It is a female fertility drug. It has been tested to be used as a treatment for hypogonadism (with some success) but the FDA has not approved it.

However, what it is used for (in men) is post-cycle therapy for an anabolic steroid cycle.

In other words: he is full of shiat. He already has a few kids, too

Lots of drugs are prescribed by doctors outside their FDA approved bounds.  Look at what Oxycontin is actually only approved for, and look what all it's prescribed for.  Clomid is a well known, and widely accepted medication for infertlity and has been precribed to men for years.

Yet, he didn't test positive for Steroids, nor has he ever.  There's been no difference in his ability or size from this year to any other year.  His head didn't grow 10 hat sizes like Barry Bonds.  The fact that he has a few kids, who are significantly older, doesn't mean that infertility isn't an issue as he gets older.  In fact, infertility is much more common in your 30's than in your 20's.

On top of that, he was taking them because his wife has a medical condition which prohibits her from taking Clomid.

So he'd take it, and then inject her?

/He was cycling off 'roids, of course - just mistimed it this time


You'd think someone taking clomid for a long time would have tested positive at least once given he's been in the NFL for 11 years
 
2014-05-17 02:12:48 PM  

HideAndGoFarkYourself: Yet, he didn't test positive for Steroids, nor has he ever. There's been no difference in his ability or size from this year to any other year. His head didn't grow 10 hat sizes like Barry Bonds. The fact that he has a few kids, who are significantly older, doesn't mean that infertility isn't an issue as he gets older.


Do you know how we can tell you have zero knowledge about steroid usage?

More than likely he was cycling off and got busted, another week and he would have been fine.

redmid17: You'd think someone taking clomid for a long time would have tested positive at least once given he's been in the NFL for 11 years


No, if you know the procedures and when they can test then you can time it out perfectly to build muscle then cycle off and lose very little of the muscle you gained while using, like I said it seems he waited a week too long and got nailed.

Besides he never called his team, the NFL, or the NFLPA, if he would have done any of those three things he may be ok but since he didnt he wont get the benefit of the doubt.
 
2014-05-17 02:38:02 PM  
redmid17:

Yet, he didn't test positive for Steroids, nor has he ever.  There's been no difference in his ability or size from this year to any other year.  His head didn't grow 10 hat sizes like Barry Bonds.

Citation Needed
 
2014-05-17 02:46:53 PM  

Thomas Hertl's Playoff Beard: redmid17:

Yet, he didn't test positive for Steroids, nor has he ever.  There's been no difference in his ability or size from this year to any other year.  His head didn't grow 10 hat sizes like Barry Bonds.

Citation Needed


You might want to double check who you're asking for a citation.
 
2014-05-17 02:58:48 PM  

ongbok: desertgeek: iron_city_ap: He never said it wasn't his fault. In fact, he takes the blame for not checking/clearing it with the league and NFLPA before hand.

VTGremlin: If it's true, then good for him for stepping up and admitting it. And bad on the NFL for banning fertility drugs.

He's taken responsibility. His agent, on the other hand... well, let's say the NFL is kind of pissed at him.

Why would they be pissed at his agent? Unless he told his agent, he isn't going to have the details of his medical treatments.


Agent calls the suspension "unjust and unfair."

NFL responds, which they NEVER actually do, says Mathis withdrew appeal and didn't follow the procedures that could've kept him from taking the drugs
 
2014-05-17 04:14:13 PM  

steamingpile: HideAndGoFarkYourself: Yet, he didn't test positive for Steroids, nor has he ever. There's been no difference in his ability or size from this year to any other year. His head didn't grow 10 hat sizes like Barry Bonds. The fact that he has a few kids, who are significantly older, doesn't mean that infertility isn't an issue as he gets older.

Do you know how we can tell you have zero knowledge about steroid usage?

More than likely he was cycling off and got busted, another week and he would have been fine.

redmid17: You'd think someone taking clomid for a long time would have tested positive at least once given he's been in the NFL for 11 years

No, if you know the procedures and when they can test then you can time it out perfectly to build muscle then cycle off and lose very little of the muscle you gained while using, like I said it seems he waited a week too long and got nailed.

Besides he never called his team, the NFL, or the NFLPA, if he would have done any of those three things he may be ok but since he didnt he wont get the benefit of the doubt.


Except the tests are random, so you can't "know" when your name is going to come up.
 
2014-05-17 04:15:06 PM  

Thomas Hertl's Playoff Beard: redmid17:

Yet, he didn't test positive for Steroids, nor has he ever.  There's been no difference in his ability or size from this year to any other year.  His head didn't grow 10 hat sizes like Barry Bonds.

Citation Needed


The 10 was anobvious exaggeration of Bonds' ridiculous head growth due to his steroid usage.
 
2014-05-17 04:19:19 PM  

steamingpile: HideAndGoFarkYourself: Yet, he didn't test positive for Steroids, nor has he ever. There's been no difference in his ability or size from this year to any other year. His head didn't grow 10 hat sizes like Barry Bonds. The fact that he has a few kids, who are significantly older, doesn't mean that infertility isn't an issue as he gets older.

Do you know how we can tell you have zero knowledge about steroid usage?

More than likely he was cycling off and got busted, another week and he would have been fine.

redmid17: You'd think someone taking clomid for a long time would have tested positive at least once given he's been in the NFL for 11 years

No, if you know the procedures and when they can test then you can time it out perfectly to build muscle then cycle off and lose very little of the muscle you gained while using, like I said it seems he waited a week too long and got nailed.

Besides he never called his team, the NFL, or the NFLPA, if he would have done any of those three things he may be ok but since he didnt he wont get the benefit of the doubt.


Nonsense. If he'd been doing this for an extended period of time, he'd likely have tested positive for Clomid, or another similar drug, way before now.

There has never been a PEDs question about Mathis, ever. So what's more likely, that he's been juicing for 11years, and has remained roughly the same physically, and has beaten every test, while avoiding all the steroid rumors that known juicers seem to have follow them around; or...he took it for a legitimate purpose to help get his wife pregnant.
 
2014-05-17 04:27:27 PM  

HideAndGoFarkYourself: Thomas Hertl's Playoff Beard: redmid17:

Yet, he didn't test positive for Steroids, nor has he ever.  There's been no difference in his ability or size from this year to any other year.  His head didn't grow 10 hat sizes like Barry Bonds.

Citation Needed

The 10 was anobvious exaggeration of Bonds' ridiculous head growth due to his steroid usage.


Ridiculous head growth?

You heard that from an acquaintance who is friends with a national sportswriter, who supposedly learned this off-the-record from the SF Giants equipment manager (the guy who issues out the players' uniforms), who was forced to sign a draconian Non-Disclosure Agreement and can't officially go on the record stating this, right?

Good grief. His head never -looked- unusually big. But you might as well take an internet rumor as gospel truth and spread it as fact. am I right?
 
2014-05-17 06:04:46 PM  

HideAndGoFarkYourself: steamingpile: HideAndGoFarkYourself: Yet, he didn't test positive for Steroids, nor has he ever. There's been no difference in his ability or size from this year to any other year. His head didn't grow 10 hat sizes like Barry Bonds. The fact that he has a few kids, who are significantly older, doesn't mean that infertility isn't an issue as he gets older.

Do you know how we can tell you have zero knowledge about steroid usage?

More than likely he was cycling off and got busted, another week and he would have been fine.

redmid17: You'd think someone taking clomid for a long time would have tested positive at least once given he's been in the NFL for 11 years

No, if you know the procedures and when they can test then you can time it out perfectly to build muscle then cycle off and lose very little of the muscle you gained while using, like I said it seems he waited a week too long and got nailed.

Besides he never called his team, the NFL, or the NFLPA, if he would have done any of those three things he may be ok but since he didnt he wont get the benefit of the doubt.

Nonsense. If he'd been doing this for an extended period of time, he'd likely have tested positive for Clomid, or another similar drug, way before now.

There has never been a PEDs question about Mathis, ever. So what's more likely, that he's been juicing for 11years, and has remained roughly the same physically, and has beaten every test, while avoiding all the steroid rumors that known juicers seem to have follow them around; or...he took it for a legitimate purpose to help get his wife pregnant.


IMO the most likely explanation is that he started taking steroids for the first time this prior season.  His sack totals jumped up despite being the only real rush threat on the Colts' D-Line last season.
 
2014-05-17 07:25:02 PM  

HideAndGoFarkYourself: SilentStrider: IIRC, that drug isn't even useful for men to take as a fertility drug.
I could be wrong on the however.

Yes, it is useful for men as a fertility drug.

machoprogrammer: It is a female fertility drug. It has been tested to be used as a treatment for hypogonadism (with some success) but the FDA has not approved it.

However, what it is used for (in men) is post-cycle therapy for an anabolic steroid cycle.

In other words: he is full of shiat. He already has a few kids, too

Lots of drugs are prescribed by doctors outside their FDA approved bounds.  Look at what Oxycontin is actually only approved for, and look what all it's prescribed for.  Clomid is a well known, and widely accepted medication for infertlity and has been precribed to men for years.

Yet, he didn't test positive for Steroids, nor has he ever.  There's been no difference in his ability or size from this year to any other year.  His head didn't grow 10 hat sizes like Barry Bonds.  The fact that he has a few kids, who are significantly older, doesn't mean that infertility isn't an issue as he gets older.  In fact, infertility is much more common in your 30's than in your 20's.


Not testing positive means jack shiat. Look at the Biogenesis guys; only three of them (Melky, Braun* and Bartolo) tested positive; the rest beat their tests because it is really easy to beat NFL and MLB drug tests, and NFL is even easier to beat. They are easy to beat even if you are taking non-designer steroids, and pro athletes use top of the line steroids or just plain testosterone (which is also easy to beat a drug test with if you raise your epitestosterone ratio as well).

And no difference in his ability? Have you ever watched football before?  http://espn.go.com/nfl/player/stats/_/id/4596/robert-mathis  He had 19.5 sacks last year. His totals the years before that? 8, 9.5, 11, 9.5, 11.5, etc...

Head growing bigger only happens with ridiculously high doses of lower-quality HGH. With proper cycling (Bonds obviously dun goofed), your head won't get bigger.

And the guy already had two children; it is pretty damn safe to say this was post-cycle therapy from steroids.
 
2014-05-17 07:30:16 PM  

HideAndGoFarkYourself: Nonsense. If he'd been doing this for an extended period of time, he'd likely have tested positive for Clomid, or another similar drug, way before now.

There has never been a PEDs question about Mathis, ever. So what's more likely, that he's been juicing for 11years, and has remained roughly the same physically, and has beaten every test, while avoiding all the steroid rumors that known juicers seem to have follow them around; or...he took it for a legitimate purpose to help get his wife pregnant.


Not necessarily. If he timed his cycles properly, he wouldn't have had a problem. Or, hell, if he decided to "blast and cruise" before rather than PCT, he wouldn't have tested positive, either.

There are no PED questions about most NFL players, even though most are on something. Braun never had been linked to steroids. The whole biogenesis crew never was linked to steroids. Von Miller was never linked to steroids before his positive test. Nor was Shawn Merriman. Do you know why? Because if you are linked, it usually means you tested positive, so very few players are linked to steroids without testing positive.

I just looked at your profile and see you are from Indiana. That explains your head in the sand... It's okay to admit he was juicing; almost all NFL players are juicing. I am a Packers fan and if Clay Matthews is natural, I would be ridiculously shocked
 
2014-05-17 10:20:00 PM  

machoprogrammer: HideAndGoFarkYourself: SilentStrider: IIRC, that drug isn't even useful for men to take as a fertility drug.
I could be wrong on the however.

Yes, it is useful for men as a fertility drug.

machoprogrammer: It is a female fertility drug. It has been tested to be used as a treatment for hypogonadism (with some success) but the FDA has not approved it.

However, what it is used for (in men) is post-cycle therapy for an anabolic steroid cycle.

In other words: he is full of shiat. He already has a few kids, too

Lots of drugs are prescribed by doctors outside their FDA approved bounds.  Look at what Oxycontin is actually only approved for, and look what all it's prescribed for.  Clomid is a well known, and widely accepted medication for infertlity and has been precribed to men for years.

Yet, he didn't test positive for Steroids, nor has he ever.  There's been no difference in his ability or size from this year to any other year.  His head didn't grow 10 hat sizes like Barry Bonds.  The fact that he has a few kids, who are significantly older, doesn't mean that infertility isn't an issue as he gets older.  In fact, infertility is much more common in your 30's than in your 20's.

Not testing positive means jack shiat. Look at the Biogenesis guys; only three of them (Melky, Braun* and Bartolo) tested positive; the rest beat their tests because it is really easy to beat NFL and MLB drug tests, and NFL is even easier to beat. They are easy to beat even if you are taking non-designer steroids, and pro athletes use top of the line steroids or just plain testosterone (which is also easy to beat a drug test with if you raise your epitestosterone ratio as well).

And no difference in his ability? Have you ever watched football before?  http://espn.go.com/nfl/player/stats/_/id/4596/robert-mathis  He had 19.5 sacks last year. His totals the years before that? 8, 9.5, 11, 9.5, 11.5, etc...

Head growing bigger only happens with ridiculously high doses of lower-quality HGH. With ...



Yes, and JJ Watt had how many sacks last season, then dipped how many?  It's almost as if peoples stats are different year to year.  His stats couldn't possibly have jumped from the difference in going from a down 4-3 DE to an up right 3-4 linebacker, going against the typically slower right tackle.  Have YOU ever watched football before?

As to your other post, how many kids he has previously had is irrelevant.  Infertility and trouble making babies isn't an either/or thing.  It's entirely possibly, and not at all unlikely, to have a kid, then have a hell of a time trying to have another one due to various factors.

Where I'm from makes no difference.  I choose to rely on evidence, and there is ZERO evidence that Mathis has been doing steroids.
 
2014-05-17 10:55:02 PM  

HideAndGoFarkYourself: Where I'm from makes no difference.  I choose to rely on evidence, and there is ZERO evidence that Mathis has been doing steroids.


Other than having his best season by a large margin at age 33, being in the NFL (most NFL players are juicing) and failing a drug test due to a drug used in post-cycle therapy after steroid cycles, yes, you are right.
 
2014-05-17 10:58:18 PM  

HideAndGoFarkYourself: Where I'm from makes no difference.  I choose to rely on evidence, and there is ZERO evidence that Mathis has been doing steroids.


Also, I can tell that you obviously know very little about steroids. There is never evidence that anyone has used steroids unless they fail a drug test (usually for high testosterone, a masking agent or a drug used in PCT) or a whistleblower snitching on them (biogenesis guys). And you know what? He failed a drug test for a drug used by people in post-cycle therapy. His alibi is likely as fake as Ryan Braun's.

Hell, there is no evidence that Mark McGwire used steroids (other than his admission and inflated stats). There is no evidence that Ronnie Coleman or Jay Cutler (the bodybuilder, not QB) are on steroids, either, by your logic. There was no evidence Arnold was juicing.
 
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