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2014-05-16 06:18:01 PM  
5 votes:
Barefoot? Are they sure they're not hippies?
2014-05-16 04:32:00 PM  
5 votes:
While the article is stupid, I will say that I did face a certain amount of academic and professional prejudice because of my Southern accent.  People heard me speak with a Savannah drawl, and immediately assumed I was stupid, racist and incapable of doing the job.  For the first several years of my career I had to overcome that.  Luckily, in Canada it's a novelty not a drawback.
2014-05-16 07:21:39 PM  
4 votes:

Campanula: Prejudice against Southerners is a thing, ...
People, an accent is an accent, not an IQ proxy.


Yet white people who think they are unfairly judged by their accent are often the first to deride how blacks talk and bring up Ebonics.
2014-05-16 06:47:09 PM  
4 votes:
Grew up in central Kentucky with a pretty pronounced twang. I now work in academia, having lost my accent (intentionally). I can't tell you how many times I've heard "Wow, you're from Kentucky? You don't sound like it," said as a compliment.

Prejudice against Southerners is a thing, and trust me, I know the stereotype exists for reasons. But it has real consequences for those of us who happen to have grown up Southern and blue collar but have aspirations outside that mold. Last semester my labmate turned down a student looking for research credit in our lab because "his (Appalachian) accent was too thick." That was really her reason.

People, an accent is an accent, not an IQ proxy.

/I acquired one more lab monkey last semester than I had planned.
2014-05-16 08:39:18 PM  
3 votes:
from the commentssissyspaceship100
 A tempest in a teapot, but a good entry to discussing the American left's class snobbery. Lefties (especially the center lefties who rule the academy) have alienated poor, and working class whites by abandoning populism in favor of slick, smug, cosmopolitan intellectualism. Liberals hate rural people. They pity and loathe uneduated people. They're disgusted by white poverty. They mock rural traditions and rural values. And this class snobbery has created a vacuum into which conservatives have happily packed guns, vainglory, fundamentalism, nationalism, paranoia, racism, and all the fried chicken you can eat-whatever it takes to exploit people's fears and insecurities and earn votes. So, the next time you're frustrated by the failure of gun legislation or health care legislation or public school funding or progressive taxation and you're wondering why all of those stupid peckerwoods in the red states keep "voting against their own interests" thank all the self-serving, elitist progressives whose class hatred has pushed half country into the arms of reactionaries. Poor white trash might be backwards and stupid, but they're not stupid enough to vote for people who think they're garbage.
2014-05-16 05:55:01 PM  
3 votes:
Man, around here we just call people that go to class barefoot "Lazy", not toothless hillbillies.
2014-05-16 09:50:01 PM  
2 votes:

NEDM: peasandcarrots: So they're vulnerable to exploitative tactics? That's not particularly flattering, and doesn't really reflect on academia all that much.

They wouldn't be nearly as receptive to those tactics if it wasn't made clear to them that their votes are unwanted by the other party.


Basically what we are seeing is the Urban/Rural conflict being translated into the Democratic/Republican Party conflict.

The decimation of the Urban Republicans and Rural Democrats is currently causing normal political conflict to mutate into seemingly unsolvable cultural conflict.
2014-05-17 09:44:39 PM  
1 vote:

Wangiss: That stance does not include a disdain of the working class


Oh yes it really really does. the Working class in the republican view as expressed through their actions in legislature dont even deserve healthcare, decent living standard, decent wages, workplace protections, basically anything at all. In what way does that not equal disdain?
2014-05-17 08:24:20 AM  
1 vote:

gaspode: NEDM:

THANK YOU!  Fark, I don't know how many times I've tried to explain this to people wondering why the Democrats aren't making inroads in Texas and the South as a whole.  That sort of shiat undermines everything that local Dems manage to accomplish.

So you dont actually think the repubs think these people are garbage? They are just accomplished farking liars who not only loathe poor people of all stripes far more than democrats do but shiat on them where democrats try to help them, which adds ANOTHER layer of stupid to the dumb farkers voting for them.

Look at the medicaid provisions in the ACA. The dems tried to help the poorest in every farking state, the repubs try to stop that and shiat on the poor some more, and yet millions of morons lap up the lies.

It is simply sad.


Did...did you even listen to yourself?  "Yeah, the Democrats don't like rural people, but Repubs hate them too!  At least we're trying to help!  Dumb farkers don't know what's good for them!"  Do you have any idea how conceited and elitist that sounds?  You even farking admitted you don't like them very much.  How the fark do you expect rural voters to believe you and vote Democrat when you're calling them too stupid to vote for their own good in the same breath as you say you're the one actually trying to help them?  The Republicans at least have the decency to not insult them to their face when they're trying to woo their vote.

I'll never vote R for the rest of my life, but I'll be damned if I'm not tired of having my own party constantly undermining itself down here with this shiat.
2014-05-17 07:15:34 AM  
1 vote:
NEDM:

THANK YOU!  Fark, I don't know how many times I've tried to explain this to people wondering why the Democrats aren't making inroads in Texas and the South as a whole.  That sort of shiat undermines everything that local Dems manage to accomplish.

So you dont actually think the repubs think these people are garbage? They are just accomplished farking liars who not only loathe poor people of all stripes far more than democrats do but shiat on them where democrats try to help them, which adds ANOTHER layer of stupid to the dumb farkers voting for them.

Look at the medicaid provisions in the ACA. The dems tried to help the poorest in every farking state, the repubs try to stop that and shiat on the poor some more, and yet millions of morons lap up the lies.

It is simply sad.
2014-05-17 03:59:18 AM  
1 vote:
Going barefoot to class means you're a hillbilly? Where I went to college it meant you were a free spirit unconstrained by societal expectations. Or in other words, we were all pretentious hipsters.
2014-05-16 10:32:23 PM  
1 vote:

BlueDWarrior: I think he's speaking toward the low- grade hypocrisy of some getting mad at one denigrating people with [accent A] while themselves denigrating those with [accent B].


so in other words a strawman. got it.
2014-05-16 09:45:57 PM  
1 vote:

wellreadneck: from the commentssissyspaceship100
 Poor white trash might be backwards and stupid, but they're not stupid enough to vote for people who think they're garbage.


oh, the repubs think they are garbage too, they just gleefully exploit their stupidity and ignorance instead of suggesting that there are alternatives to being stupid and ignorant
2014-05-16 09:26:54 PM  
1 vote:

conjecture and hearsay: Some places are known to have a disproportionately high number of dumb people.


But enough about Congress...

/try the veal
2014-05-16 09:08:49 PM  
1 vote:

wellreadneck: from the commentssissyspaceship100
 A tempest in a teapot, but a good entry to discussing the American left's class snobbery. Lefties (especially the center lefties who rule the academy) have alienated poor, and working class whites by abandoning populism in favor of slick, smug, cosmopolitan intellectualism. Liberals hate rural people. They pity and loathe uneduated people. They're disgusted by white poverty. They mock rural traditions and rural values. And this class snobbery has created a vacuum into which conservatives have happily packed guns, vainglory, fundamentalism, nationalism, paranoia, racism, and all the fried chicken you can eat-whatever it takes to exploit people's fears and insecurities and earn votes. So, the next time you're frustrated by the failure of gun legislation or health care legislation or public school funding or progressive taxation and you're wondering why all of those stupid peckerwoods in the red states keep "voting against their own interests" thank all the self-serving, elitist progressives whose class hatred has pushed half country into the arms of reactionaries. Poor white trash might be backwards and stupid, but they're not stupid enough to vote for people who think they're garbage.


So they're vulnerable to exploitative tactics? That's not particularly flattering, and doesn't really reflect on academia all that much.

I grew up in a town (pop. 1000) where college was a thing for, maybe, one out of every ten kids in my school. The rest didn't go to college not because it hurt their feelings, but because the money wasn't there to make it happen. Or their grades were poor because their parents worked them like slaves so they wouldn't have to hire farmhands. Or their teachers saw them stumble over the word "neighborhood" in second grade and decided that they were illiterates who weren't worth teaching - not when Suzy Goldenchild could read the entire Riverview Journal before all her baby teeth were out.

"We're sorry, we're rejecting your application to our University because you grew up in a poor white rural community and have a Galveston accent," said NO ENROLLMENT COMMITTEE EVER.
2014-05-16 08:04:59 PM  
1 vote:
What the fark did I just read?

And why in the sphincter of hell did it get greenlighted?
2014-05-16 07:33:33 PM  
1 vote:

Campanula: HairBolus: Campanula: Prejudice against Southerners is a thing, ...
People, an accent is an accent, not an IQ proxy.

Yet white people who think they are unfairly judged by their accent are often the first to deride how blacks talk and bring up Ebonics.

Which somehow makes it acceptable when the shoe is on the other foot (or not on the other foot, as the case may be here)?

Like I said, I understand that there are plenty of Southerners who fulfill the stereotype. I am not one of them; as someone who is sensitive regarding her own accent, I'm not prone to deriding others for theirs. So if you'd kindly redirect that broad brush elsewhere, I'd be much obliged.


I think he's speaking toward the low- grade hypocrisy of some getting mad at one denigrating people with [accent A] while themselves denigrating those with [accent B].
2014-05-16 07:24:47 PM  
1 vote:

wellreadneck: Campanula: Grew up in central Kentucky with a pretty pronounced twang. I now work in academia, having lost my accent (intentionally). I can't tell you how many times I've heard "Wow, you're from Kentucky? You don't sound like it," said as a compliment.

Prejudice against Southerners is a thing, and trust me, I know the stereotype exists for reasons. But it has real consequences for those of us who happen to have grown up Southern and blue collar but have aspirations outside that mold. Last semester my labmate turned down a student looking for research credit in our lab because "his (Appalachian) accent was too thick." That was really her reason.

People, an accent is an accent, not an IQ proxy.

/I acquired one more lab monkey last semester than I had planned.

Cinci has a human rights ordinance, which protects people
from discrimination based on race, gender, age, color,
religion, disability status, marital status, or
ethnic, national, or Appalachian regional origin.


That's quite cool! I'm wondering how common this in among Appalachian states. I know some Kentucky schools that have diversity programs that include students from Appalachia, but I don't know about cities.
2014-05-16 06:50:23 PM  
1 vote:

Campanula: Grew up in central Kentucky with a pretty pronounced twang. I now work in academia, having lost my accent (intentionally). I can't tell you how many times I've heard "Wow, you're from Kentucky? You don't sound like it," said as a compliment.

Prejudice against Southerners is a thing, and trust me, I know the stereotype exists for reasons. But it has real consequences for those of us who happen to have grown up Southern and blue collar but have aspirations outside that mold. Last semester my labmate turned down a student looking for research credit in our lab because "his (Appalachian) accent was too thick." That was really her reason.

People, an accent is an accent, not an IQ proxy.

/I acquired one more lab monkey last semester than I had planned.


They always make fun of the way I talk, I keep telling them I said your gonna be
real surprised when you get into the habit in St. Petersburg and say,
"Y'all get into the truck, we goin up to the big house."

- Jeff Foxworthy
2014-05-16 06:32:58 PM  
1 vote:

Benevolent Misanthrope: While the article is stupid, I will say that I did face a certain amount of academic and professional prejudice because of my Southern accent.  People heard me speak with a Savannah drawl, and immediately assumed I was stupid, racist and incapable of doing the job.  For the first several years of my career I had to overcome that.  Luckily, in Canada it's a novelty not a drawback.


One of my favorite college econ professors had just about the thickest southern accent I've ever heard. Hearing him say Laspeyres (Lah-Pear) was once the highlight of my week. But I won't lie, I probably started off that quarter a bit biased, thinking "this hick is going to be teaching me?" somewhere in the back of my head.
2014-05-16 06:32:51 PM  
1 vote:
I don't know if I want to live in a world with rednecks getting educated. The mixture of those people with normal educated people...it's...just...unnatural, and against what God intended.
2014-05-16 06:32:05 PM  
1 vote:
"Appalachian studies"

Well that right there is your problem.
2014-05-16 06:23:06 PM  
1 vote:

Lsherm: Benevolent Misanthrope: While the article is stupid, I will say that I did face a certain amount of academic and professional prejudice because of my Southern accent.  People heard me speak with a Savannah drawl, and immediately assumed I was stupid, racist and incapable of doing the job.  For the first several years of my career I had to overcome that.  Luckily, in Canada it's a novelty not a drawback.

I grew up in northern Kentucky and southern Ohio and I learned how to get rid of my accent real fast.  I didn't even realize I had one until I went to college.  I'd normally sound like David Letterman, just a standard midwestern accent, but on certain words people would call me on it.  Like I'd be in the middle of a sentence, hit the word "roof" or "fire" and someone would ask "WHAT did you just say?" like I had just shiat all over my desk.  I still say Louisville like I've got a mouth full of molasses.


On the other hand, I used to have a plumber working with me who could drop his Texas accent with a little effort. He found that when he did, his sales numbers went down. People, especially in Carmel or Pebble Beach, seemed to really trust a Texan when it comes to handling all that blue collar stuff.
2014-05-16 06:19:56 PM  
1 vote:
Guy pictured in TFA is a HIPSTER, not a hillbilly.
2014-05-16 06:18:24 PM  
1 vote:

meat0918: Man, around here we just call people that go to class barefoot "Lazy", not toothless hillbillies.


When I was in school they were called "hippies."
2014-05-16 06:18:05 PM  
1 vote:
"do not feel the same need to be sensitive to those from poor, largely white, rural communities in Appalachia."

Please, fer fark's sake, don't let this sensitivity culture shiat get anywhere near my people. Just don't be an asshole and I don't care what you say.

I can't imagine being black or Jewish and having to listen to this shiat.
2014-05-16 06:05:21 PM  
1 vote:

Benevolent Misanthrope: While the article is stupid, I will say that I did face a certain amount of academic and professional prejudice because of my Southern accent.  People heard me speak with a Savannah drawl, and immediately assumed I was stupid, racist and incapable of doing the job.  For the first several years of my career I had to overcome that.  Luckily, in Canada it's a novelty not a drawback.


I grew up in northern Kentucky and southern Ohio and I learned how to get rid of my accent real fast.  I didn't even realize I had one until I went to college.  I'd normally sound like David Letterman, just a standard midwestern accent, but on certain words people would call me on it.  Like I'd be in the middle of a sentence, hit the word "roof" or "fire" and someone would ask "WHAT did you just say?" like I had just shiat all over my desk.  I still say Louisville like I've got a mouth full of molasses.
2014-05-16 06:04:06 PM  
1 vote:
So, Dr. Jennifer Lawrence?
2014-05-16 06:01:09 PM  
1 vote:

Snarfangel: Please. They prefer to be called "people of the soil."

Or "undocumented distillers," if they have gumption.


The salt of the earth, the common clay of the west... You know, morons.
2014-05-16 05:13:50 PM  
1 vote:

img.fark.net

2014-05-16 04:49:33 PM  
1 vote:

edmo: DNRTFA. Is this gonna be another creationism thread?


No. That thread was moved to the sports tab. And next time you come in here take your shoes off.
2014-05-16 04:43:10 PM  
1 vote:

Benevolent Misanthrope: While the article is stupid, I will say that I did face a certain amount of academic and professional prejudice because of my Southern accent.  People heard me speak with a Savannah drawl, and immediately assumed I was stupid, racist and incapable of doing the job.  For the first several years of my career I had to overcome that.  Luckily, in Canada it's a novelty not a drawback.


I think it was Jeff Foxworthy who said that nobody wants to hear their brain surgeon say with a southern accent, "Now, what we gon' do is..."
2014-05-16 04:18:37 PM  
1 vote:
That was just the kind of stupid I've come to expect from Gawker. Thanks for not letting me down. Oh, and I want that 60 seconds of my life back.
 
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