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2014-05-16 10:39:57 PM

CyberKultist: Couple of rednecks


See, right there is the problem.

People don't know the difference between rednecks and hillbillies, so they use the words interchangeably.

Hillbillies are from the Appalachian Mountains. They survived mostly on subsistence and had to be clever to do so. They survived on hunting, gathering, and small-plot farming before the coal industry moved in, and in their isolation developed a rich culture of art, music, and innovation. They were labeled as bumpkins because the mountains were the last areas to be connected by roads, publishing, and broadcasting.

Rednecks were any poor white trash from the Southern flatlands, in farming states. "Redneck" was a term to distinguish proper Southern families from the impoverished day-labor types. Rednecks were typically undereducated and any culture they had was made of whatever fell from the land-owners' plates. They were labeled as idiots because they chose to be idiots who celebrated the poverty and ignorance that set them apart from those land-owners.

/Member, Appalachian-American Defense League.
 
2014-05-16 10:52:32 PM
I wonder what will happen if some gays find a still and demand that some hillbilly make them some gay moonshine?
 
2014-05-16 10:54:21 PM

Lenny_da_Hog: CyberKultist: Couple of rednecks

See, right there is the problem.

People don't know the difference between rednecks and hillbillies, so they use the words interchangeably.

Hillbillies are from the Appalachian Mountains. They survived mostly on subsistence and had to be clever to do so. They survived on hunting, gathering, and small-plot farming before the coal industry moved in, and in their isolation developed a rich culture of art, music, and innovation. They were labeled as bumpkins because the mountains were the last areas to be connected by roads, publishing, and broadcasting.

Rednecks were any poor white trash from the Southern flatlands, in farming states. "Redneck" was a term to distinguish proper Southern families from the impoverished day-labor types. Rednecks were typically undereducated and any culture they had was made of whatever fell from the land-owners' plates. They were labeled as idiots because they chose to be idiots who celebrated the poverty and ignorance that set them apart from those land-owners.

/Member, Appalachian-American Defense League.


All interchangeable when being racist. They have plenty of similar traits.
:p

/know the nuance differences
//mostly coon-ass myself
 
2014-05-16 11:00:42 PM
At least we know the difference between barbecue and a dang grill
 
2014-05-16 11:10:29 PM

Benevolent Misanthrope: While the article is stupid, I will say that I did face a certain amount of academic and professional prejudice because of my Southern accent.  People heard me speak with a Savannah drawl, and immediately assumed I was stupid, racist and incapable of doing the job.  For the first several years of my career I had to overcome that.  Luckily, in Canada it's a novelty not a drawback.


In fairness, most Southerners actually are stupid, racist, and incompetent (:
 
2014-05-16 11:21:17 PM

Alleyoop: I wonder what will happen if some gays find a still and demand that some hillbilly make them some gay moonshine?


I'm sure it will taste fabulous.
 
2014-05-16 11:31:09 PM

JesusJuice: Benevolent Misanthrope: While the article is stupid, I will say that I did face a certain amount of academic and professional prejudice because of my Southern accent.  People heard me speak with a Savannah drawl, and immediately assumed I was stupid, racist and incapable of doing the job.  For the first several years of my career I had to overcome that.  Luckily, in Canada it's a novelty not a drawback.

In fairness, most Southerners humansactually are stupid, racist, and incompetent (:


FTFY
 
2014-05-16 11:37:53 PM
I grew up in LA. (Lower Alabama. The Redneck Riviera. Panama City, FL). Just about everyone I went to school with had, and still has a southern accent. I always tried to speak without one. It worked out well for me. I joined the army as a public affairs specialist. I have been doing broadcast journalism (radio and TV) in the army for the last 12 years. When we did our AIT (Advanced Individual Training - where you go to learn your job after Basic Training), I was fortunate to have no problem with the initial phase (BWAS - Basic Writing and Announcing Skills). Some of my compatriots, however, were struggling with their accents. The instructors told us that people with southern accents are seen as less intelligent than those without. Whether or not it is true, perception is still reality.

/CSB
//Slashies
 
2014-05-16 11:52:25 PM

Benevolent Misanthrope: While the article is stupid, I will say that I did face a certain amount of academic and professional prejudice because of my Southern accent.  People heard me speak with a Savannah drawl, and immediately assumed I was stupid, racist and incapable of doing the job.  For the first several years of my career I had to overcome that.  Luckily, in Canada it's a novelty not a drawback.


I'm the first generation in 350 years *not* raised on an Appalachian subsistence farm. My parents took the Hillbilly Highway first to New York, then to Ohio, to work in industry. I lost my West-by-God accent in High School, but it kicks back in whenever I talk about the Mountains or go to visit there.

I now speak with a Brian-Williams-esque broadcasting accent. I've lived on the West Coast in Alaska and Oregon for the last 25 years. Very often, once people learn that my family spent 350 years in the hills and hollers, they change the way they treat me and concentrate on associating me with redneck stereotypes.
 
2014-05-17 12:06:39 AM

Lenny_da_Hog: Benevolent Misanthrope: While the article is stupid, I will say that I did face a certain amount of academic and professional prejudice because of my Southern accent.  People heard me speak with a Savannah drawl, and immediately assumed I was stupid, racist and incapable of doing the job.  For the first several years of my career I had to overcome that.  Luckily, in Canada it's a novelty not a drawback.

I'm the first generation in 350 years *not* raised on an Appalachian subsistence farm. My parents took the Hillbilly Highway first to New York, then to Ohio, to work in industry. I lost my West-by-God accent in High School, but it kicks back in whenever I talk about the Mountains or go to visit there.

I now speak with a Brian-Williams-esque broadcasting accent. I've lived on the West Coast in Alaska and Oregon for the last 25 years. Very often, once people learn that my family spent 350 years in the hills and hollers, they change the way they treat me and concentrate on associating me with redneck stereotypes.


That's so stupid. I'm sorry you have to endure that. I talk more like my Sacramento friends when I'm talking about the river or old times. There aren't any associated negatives with that except from the rare insecure Southern Californian.
 
2014-05-17 12:21:20 AM

HairBolus: Campanula: Prejudice against Southerners is a thing, ...
People, an accent is an accent, not an IQ proxy.

Yet white people who think they are unfairly judged by their accent are often the first to deride how blacks talk and bring up Ebonics.


That's because even the harshest accents are still more or less English. Though I do have to give credit to Ebonics for taking away the concept of an irregular verb. I be, you be, he/she be, we be, they be. Wow, if only French had been that easy!
 
2014-05-17 12:40:02 AM

TerminalEchoes: Though I do have to give credit to Ebonics for taking away the concept of an irregular verb. I be, you be, he/she be, we be, they be.


Boo be!
 
2014-05-17 01:16:47 AM
So we've had several redneck/hillbilly jokes, but has anyone heard the Southern girl / Northern girl joke?

Two girls are sitting next to each other on a plane. The Southern girl, being the friendly if bumbling stereotype that one finds in jokes like these, turns to the Northern girl and asks,

"So, where you from?"

The Northern girl, being the intellectually superior but priggish stereotype also found in jokes like these, sniffs dismissively at the Southern girl,

"I come from a place where we learned not to end a sentence in a preposition."

The Southern girl pauses for a moment, and then smiles and replies sweetly,

"So, where you from, biatch?"
 
2014-05-17 01:20:16 AM
there's a kid who goes around barefoot at my school but he's from new zealand or something. Also walking barefoot is pretty much accepted where i go because it's a liberal arts college.
/like seriously please stop going to public bathrooms barefoot guys, someone's going to get ringworm
 
2014-05-17 01:56:48 AM
Few hillbillies graduate middle school.  The only ones in college are mopping the floors.
 
2014-05-17 02:06:10 AM

charlesmartel11235: there's a kid who goes around barefoot at my school but he's from new zealand or something. Also walking barefoot is pretty much accepted where i go because it's a liberal arts college.
/like seriously please stop going to public bathrooms barefoot guys, someone's going to get ringworm


A ring on their worm?  OK but I thought the gay marriage thing was already taken care of
 
2014-05-17 02:37:35 AM

charlesmartel11235: there's a kid who goes around barefoot at my school but he's from new zealand or something. Also walking barefoot is pretty much accepted where i go because it's a liberal arts college.
/like seriously please stop going to public bathrooms barefoot guys, someone's going to get ringworm


Whereas I know it will not be me, it is the barefoot person's risk and consideration, not mine. Still, sound advice is sound advice.
 
2014-05-17 03:38:49 AM
 
2014-05-17 03:53:01 AM

gerbilpox: Oh, it starts before college.

https://myspace.com/jammyjamm/video/boy-in-a-barn/8995666


There's still a myspace??
 
2014-05-17 03:59:18 AM
Going barefoot to class means you're a hillbilly? Where I went to college it meant you were a free spirit unconstrained by societal expectations. Or in other words, we were all pretentious hipsters.
 
2014-05-17 04:19:21 AM

Danger Avoid Death: gerbilpox: Oh, it starts before college.

https://myspace.com/jammyjamm/video/boy-in-a-barn/8995666

There's still a myspace??


Haven't you heard? It's trendy retro, like Happy Days in the 70's and That 70's Show in the 90's/00's.

But I was into it before it was cool.
 
2014-05-17 04:35:20 AM

kling_klang_bed: Hillbillie chemistry lab:

[www.envtesting.com image 800x562]


My grandmother has that same table... but she's from Oklahoma.

/And she eventually started wearing shoes.
 
2014-05-17 05:14:56 AM
And speaking as a Canuck who's been down south a fair number of times and knows more than his fair share of southerners, I can say that your "rednecks" who earn a living with their own two hands as skilled tradesmen and women are some of the nicest and, when it comes to basic common sense and inventiveness, smartest folks on the planet.
 
2014-05-17 06:37:16 AM

LazyMedia: /Person of Appalachian origin, but I farking HATE going shoeless.


Meh, I grew up in NYC and only wear shoes when I absolutely *have* to.  I hate them.  I have never worn them when on stage. I can't type with them on. I take them off if I'm the passenger in a car. I take them off before I take off my coat in winter.  The only time you will ever see shoes on my feet is if I am driving (laws and all) or in a store/restaurant.  At work, some biatchy woman  complained about me not having shoes on in the hallway so I bought intentionally noisy flip flops and flopped them hard past where she worked. It was such a pain to even remember to put them on to go to the bathroom or mail room.

*shrug* I can't explain it, I just prefer to be barefoot. There are photos of me barefoot in the snow, not caring.

And I'm far, far, far from a "hillbilly".  I just hate wearing shoes.
 
2014-05-17 07:15:34 AM
NEDM:

THANK YOU!  Fark, I don't know how many times I've tried to explain this to people wondering why the Democrats aren't making inroads in Texas and the South as a whole.  That sort of shiat undermines everything that local Dems manage to accomplish.

So you dont actually think the repubs think these people are garbage? They are just accomplished farking liars who not only loathe poor people of all stripes far more than democrats do but shiat on them where democrats try to help them, which adds ANOTHER layer of stupid to the dumb farkers voting for them.

Look at the medicaid provisions in the ACA. The dems tried to help the poorest in every farking state, the repubs try to stop that and shiat on the poor some more, and yet millions of morons lap up the lies.

It is simply sad.
 
2014-05-17 07:49:17 AM
Gay. The way white men can get minority status.
 
2014-05-17 08:11:58 AM

JesseL: The local community college has a professor that never wears shoes. He teaches aboriginal living skills.

You've probably heard of him:

[www.theonlinerocket.com image 850x566]


With a modern watch on his wrist....
 
2014-05-17 08:24:20 AM

gaspode: NEDM:

THANK YOU!  Fark, I don't know how many times I've tried to explain this to people wondering why the Democrats aren't making inroads in Texas and the South as a whole.  That sort of shiat undermines everything that local Dems manage to accomplish.

So you dont actually think the repubs think these people are garbage? They are just accomplished farking liars who not only loathe poor people of all stripes far more than democrats do but shiat on them where democrats try to help them, which adds ANOTHER layer of stupid to the dumb farkers voting for them.

Look at the medicaid provisions in the ACA. The dems tried to help the poorest in every farking state, the repubs try to stop that and shiat on the poor some more, and yet millions of morons lap up the lies.

It is simply sad.


Did...did you even listen to yourself?  "Yeah, the Democrats don't like rural people, but Repubs hate them too!  At least we're trying to help!  Dumb farkers don't know what's good for them!"  Do you have any idea how conceited and elitist that sounds?  You even farking admitted you don't like them very much.  How the fark do you expect rural voters to believe you and vote Democrat when you're calling them too stupid to vote for their own good in the same breath as you say you're the one actually trying to help them?  The Republicans at least have the decency to not insult them to their face when they're trying to woo their vote.

I'll never vote R for the rest of my life, but I'll be damned if I'm not tired of having my own party constantly undermining itself down here with this shiat.
 
2014-05-17 09:17:50 AM
Nothing I said is not true. Sure it might be politically useful to lie, and most politicians do so.. but one side lies a bit and does good for poor people, the other lies a lot and does bad for poor people. telling bigger and more dishonest lies to trick people into voting for you and shiatting on people is NOT 'decency' it is gross hypocrisy.

There is no evident solution in the absence of an effective press.
 
2014-05-17 09:37:34 AM

serpent_sky: LazyMedia: /Person of Appalachian origin, but I farking HATE going shoeless.

Meh, I grew up in NYC and only wear shoes when I absolutely *have* to.  I hate them.  I have never worn them when on stage. I can't type with them on. I take them off if I'm the passenger in a car. I take them off before I take off my coat in winter.  The only time you will ever see shoes on my feet is if I am driving (laws and all) or in a store/restaurant.  At work, some biatchy woman  complained about me not having shoes on in the hallway so I bought intentionally noisy flip flops and flopped them hard past where she worked. It was such a pain to even remember to put them on to go to the bathroom or mail room.

*shrug* I can't explain it, I just prefer to be barefoot. There are photos of me barefoot in the snow, not caring.

And I'm far, far, far from a "hillbilly".  I just hate wearing shoes.


Wait...it's illegal to drive without shoes on? Hrm. How about rollerblades? Do those count?
 
2014-05-17 10:22:18 AM

gaspode: Nothing I said is not true. Sure it might be politically useful to lie, and most politicians do so.. but one side lies a bit and does good for poor people, the other lies a lot and does bad for poor people. telling bigger and more dishonest lies to trick people into voting for you and shiatting on people is NOT 'decency' it is gross hypocrisy.

There is no evident solution in the absence of an effective press.


Bullshiat.  You could start by not showing open contempt for Southern and rural Americans.  That will go a hell of a lot farther than you apparently think it's worth.  Funnily enough, people who are on the fence split on issues between the two parties are usually going to vote for the party coveting their vote over the party saying "If you had two braincells to rub together to think for your own good, you'd vote for us,"  And people wonder why rural parts of country have taken on an "Us vs Them" mindset as of late.

And before you start, I know the Democrats have tried to help poor people, but they sure as shiat don't look like they want to be helping rural USA.  If you try to set up a charitable organization, but tell everyone who comes in to get help "I hate you, but can't you see I'm here anyways to help", you're not going to get very many people willing to accept your help
 
2014-05-17 10:25:43 AM

gaspode: Nothing I said is not true. Sure it might be politically useful to lie, and most politicians do so.. but one side lies a bit and does good for poor people, the other lies a lot and does bad for poor people. telling bigger and more dishonest lies to trick people into voting for you and shiatting on people is NOT 'decency' it is gross hypocrisy.

There is no evident solution in the absence of an effective press.


You ascribe hatred where there is none because you are not intelligent enough to parse the actual stance of your opponent. That stance does not include a disdain of the working class or of Southerners. But you have explicated that disrespect from your own "side." You are a partisan blinded by your tribalism.

/Not an R
 
2014-05-17 11:11:42 AM

serpent_sky: LazyMedia: /Person of Appalachian origin, but I farking HATE going shoeless.

Meh, I grew up in NYC and only wear shoes when I absolutely *have* to.  I hate them.  I have never worn them when on stage. I can't type with them on. I take them off if I'm the passenger in a car. I take them off before I take off my coat in winter.  The only time you will ever see shoes on my feet is if I am driving (laws and all) or in a store/restaurant.  At work, some biatchy woman  complained about me not having shoes on in the hallway so I bought intentionally noisy flip flops and flopped them hard past where she worked. It was such a pain to even remember to put them on to go to the bathroom or mail room.

*shrug* I can't explain it, I just prefer to be barefoot. There are photos of me barefoot in the snow, not caring.

And I'm far, far, far from a "hillbilly".  I just hate wearing shoes.


If we were comic book characters, you would be my arch foe. The first thing I do when I get up is put on a pair of sport sandals, and I put on shoes and socks as soon as I get out of the bath. Don't take them off until I go to bed. The only thing I hate worse than being barefoot is flipflops. My idea of comfortable footwear is work boots.

/Feet get cold, and are impossible to warm up.
 
2014-05-17 12:51:28 PM
I used to play with a bass player who thought anyone with a southern accent was stupid.

He was from Iowa.

/proud redneck here
//NOT hillbilly
///wear boots most of the time here in the desert
 
2014-05-17 02:24:39 PM

Deucetoo: I grew up in LA. (Lower Alabama. The Redneck Riviera. Panama City, FL). Just about everyone I went to school with had, and still has a southern accent. I always tried to speak without one. It worked out well for me. I joined the army as a public affairs specialist. I have been doing broadcast journalism (radio and TV) in the army for the last 12 years. When we did our AIT (Advanced Individual Training - where you go to learn your job after Basic Training), I was fortunate to have no problem with the initial phase (BWAS - Basic Writing and Announcing Skills). Some of my compatriots, however, were struggling with their accents. The instructors told us that people with southern accents are seen as less intelligent than those without. Whether or not it is true, perception is still reality.

/CSB
//Slashies


Another DINFOS-Trained Killer! I went through both print and broadcast schools (back in the 80s, before they were merged) and the broadcast course was brutal: 80% attrition rate. I still remember the old guy who'd slam a hockey stick across your cubicle while you were reading scripts into a tape recorder. At least it helped me get rid of a thick Mississippi accent. That hick perception is a reality, and if you're not delivering news in a generic American accent, viewers will spend more time wondering where you're from than they will listening to what you're saying.
 
2014-05-17 03:47:39 PM
Call me old fashioned (or something a lot nastier!), but I'd take drinking beer with a bunch of Hillbilly's over a bunch of gay dudes, ANY day of the year.
 
2014-05-17 06:46:13 PM

serpent_sky: LazyMedia: /Person of Appalachian origin, but I farking HATE going shoeless.

Meh, I grew up in NYC and only wear shoes when I absolutely *have* to.  I hate them.  I have never worn them when on stage. I can't type with them on


You're supposed to use your hands.
 
2014-05-17 07:42:55 PM

rynthetyn: Going barefoot to class means you're a hillbilly? Where I went to college it meant you were a free spirit unconstrained by societal expectations. Or in other words, we were all pretentious hipsters.


Where I went to college, it meant you were an idiot. Because we were in the middle of the crappiest neighborhood in a pretty depressing city. Although, come to think of it, there did seem to be a lot of hipsters on campus...
 
2014-05-17 09:44:39 PM

Wangiss: That stance does not include a disdain of the working class


Oh yes it really really does. the Working class in the republican view as expressed through their actions in legislature dont even deserve healthcare, decent living standard, decent wages, workplace protections, basically anything at all. In what way does that not equal disdain?
 
2014-05-17 11:33:40 PM

gaspode: Wangiss: That stance does not include a disdain of the working class

Oh yes it really really does. the Working class in the republican view as expressed through their actions in legislature dont even deserve healthcare, decent living standard, decent wages, workplace protections, basically anything at all. In what way does that not equal disdain?


Because if you are working, you get all that from your work.

Why is work so frowned upon by libs? What is wrong with earning stuff? If everything is free, why would anyone want to work harder, or at all?
 
2014-05-18 02:40:25 AM

Thunderpipes: gaspode: Wangiss: That stance does not include a disdain of the working class

Oh yes it really really does. the Working class in the republican view as expressed through their actions in legislature dont even deserve healthcare, decent living standard, decent wages, workplace protections, basically anything at all. In what way does that not equal disdain?

Because if you are working, you get all that from your work.

Why is work so frowned upon by libs? What is wrong with earning stuff? If everything is free, why would anyone want to work harder, or at all?


What the fark are you talking about? what do actual working class people get from that list, if employed at low wage jobs? middle class people get them from their jobs it is true, and some union job working class people get them, but the republicans fight tooth and nail to remove them all.
 
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