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2014-05-16 04:18:37 PM  
That was just the kind of stupid I've come to expect from Gawker. Thanks for not letting me down. Oh, and I want that 60 seconds of my life back.
 
2014-05-16 04:22:30 PM  
Advanced theoretical muddin
 
2014-05-16 04:29:23 PM  
Mah dogs kin breathe!  I kin go ta school!  I can BE somebody!
 
2014-05-16 04:32:00 PM  
While the article is stupid, I will say that I did face a certain amount of academic and professional prejudice because of my Southern accent.  People heard me speak with a Savannah drawl, and immediately assumed I was stupid, racist and incapable of doing the job.  For the first several years of my career I had to overcome that.  Luckily, in Canada it's a novelty not a drawback.
 
2014-05-16 04:43:10 PM  

Benevolent Misanthrope: While the article is stupid, I will say that I did face a certain amount of academic and professional prejudice because of my Southern accent.  People heard me speak with a Savannah drawl, and immediately assumed I was stupid, racist and incapable of doing the job.  For the first several years of my career I had to overcome that.  Luckily, in Canada it's a novelty not a drawback.


I think it was Jeff Foxworthy who said that nobody wants to hear their brain surgeon say with a southern accent, "Now, what we gon' do is..."
 
2014-05-16 04:43:38 PM  
DNRTFA. Is this gonna be another creationism thread?
 
2014-05-16 04:49:33 PM  

edmo: DNRTFA. Is this gonna be another creationism thread?


No. That thread was moved to the sports tab. And next time you come in here take your shoes off.
 
2014-05-16 05:13:50 PM  

img.fark.net

 
2014-05-16 05:16:23 PM  
Please. They prefer to be called "people of the soil."

Or "undocumented distillers," if they have gumption.
 
2014-05-16 05:55:01 PM  
Man, around here we just call people that go to class barefoot "Lazy", not toothless hillbillies.
 
2014-05-16 06:01:09 PM  

Snarfangel: Please. They prefer to be called "people of the soil."

Or "undocumented distillers," if they have gumption.


The salt of the earth, the common clay of the west... You know, morons.
 
2014-05-16 06:04:06 PM  
So, Dr. Jennifer Lawrence?
 
2014-05-16 06:05:21 PM  

Benevolent Misanthrope: While the article is stupid, I will say that I did face a certain amount of academic and professional prejudice because of my Southern accent.  People heard me speak with a Savannah drawl, and immediately assumed I was stupid, racist and incapable of doing the job.  For the first several years of my career I had to overcome that.  Luckily, in Canada it's a novelty not a drawback.


I grew up in northern Kentucky and southern Ohio and I learned how to get rid of my accent real fast.  I didn't even realize I had one until I went to college.  I'd normally sound like David Letterman, just a standard midwestern accent, but on certain words people would call me on it.  Like I'd be in the middle of a sentence, hit the word "roof" or "fire" and someone would ask "WHAT did you just say?" like I had just shiat all over my desk.  I still say Louisville like I've got a mouth full of molasses.
 
2014-05-16 06:17:18 PM  
"Set a spell"...
 
2014-05-16 06:18:01 PM  
Barefoot? Are they sure they're not hippies?
 
2014-05-16 06:18:05 PM  
"do not feel the same need to be sensitive to those from poor, largely white, rural communities in Appalachia."

Please, fer fark's sake, don't let this sensitivity culture shiat get anywhere near my people. Just don't be an asshole and I don't care what you say.

I can't imagine being black or Jewish and having to listen to this shiat.
 
2014-05-16 06:18:24 PM  

meat0918: Man, around here we just call people that go to class barefoot "Lazy", not toothless hillbillies.


When I was in school they were called "hippies."
 
2014-05-16 06:18:50 PM  
Gay hillbilly so I'm really gettin' a kick...
 
2014-05-16 06:19:56 PM  
Guy pictured in TFA is a HIPSTER, not a hillbilly.
 
2014-05-16 06:20:50 PM  
Two rednecks decided that they weren't going anywhere in life and thought they should go to college to get ahead.

The first went in to see the counselor, who told him to take math, history, and logic. "What's logic?" the first redneck asked.

The professor answered, "Let me give you an example. Do you own a weed eater?"

"I sure do."

"Then I can assume, using logic, that you have a yard," replied the professor.

"That's real good!" said the redneck. The professor continued, "Logic will also tell me that since you have a yard, you also own a house."

Impressed, the redneck said, "Amazing!"

"And since you own a house, logic dictates that you have a wife."

"That's Betty Mae! This is incredible!" The redneck was catching on.

"Finally, since you have a wife, logically I can assume that you are heterosexual," said the professor.

"You're absolutely right! Why that's the most fascinatin' thing I ever heard! I cain't wait to take that logic class!"

The redneck, proud of the new world opening up to him, walked back into the hallway where his friend was still waiting.

"So what classes are ya takin' ?" asked the friend.

"Math, history, and logic!" replied the first redneck.

"What in tarnation is logic?" asked his friend.

"Let me give you an example. Do ya own a weed eater?" asked the first redneck.

"No," his friend replied.

"You're queer, ain't ya?"
 
2014-05-16 06:21:38 PM  
Well, bless that professors little heart.
 
2014-05-16 06:23:06 PM  

Lsherm: Benevolent Misanthrope: While the article is stupid, I will say that I did face a certain amount of academic and professional prejudice because of my Southern accent.  People heard me speak with a Savannah drawl, and immediately assumed I was stupid, racist and incapable of doing the job.  For the first several years of my career I had to overcome that.  Luckily, in Canada it's a novelty not a drawback.

I grew up in northern Kentucky and southern Ohio and I learned how to get rid of my accent real fast.  I didn't even realize I had one until I went to college.  I'd normally sound like David Letterman, just a standard midwestern accent, but on certain words people would call me on it.  Like I'd be in the middle of a sentence, hit the word "roof" or "fire" and someone would ask "WHAT did you just say?" like I had just shiat all over my desk.  I still say Louisville like I've got a mouth full of molasses.


On the other hand, I used to have a plumber working with me who could drop his Texas accent with a little effort. He found that when he did, his sales numbers went down. People, especially in Carmel or Pebble Beach, seemed to really trust a Texan when it comes to handling all that blue collar stuff.
 
2014-05-16 06:26:39 PM  
img.fark.net

you can call me edumacated!
 
2014-05-16 06:27:23 PM  

buckeyebrain: Two rednecks decided that they weren't going anywhere in life and thought they should go to college to get ahead.

The first went in to see the counselor, who told him to take math, history, and logic. "What's logic?" the first redneck asked.

The professor answered, "Let me give you an example. Do you own a weed eater?"

"I sure do."

"Then I can assume, using logic, that you have a yard," replied the professor.

"That's real good!" said the redneck. The professor continued, "Logic will also tell me that since you have a yard, you also own a house."

Impressed, the redneck said, "Amazing!"

"And since you own a house, logic dictates that you have a wife."

"That's Betty Mae! This is incredible!" The redneck was catching on.

"Finally, since you have a wife, logically I can assume that you are heterosexual," said the professor.

"You're absolutely right! Why that's the most fascinatin' thing I ever heard! I cain't wait to take that logic class!"

The redneck, proud of the new world opening up to him, walked back into the hallway where his friend was still waiting.

"So what classes are ya takin' ?" asked the friend.

"Math, history, and logic!" replied the first redneck.

"What in tarnation is logic?" asked his friend.

"Let me give you an example. Do ya own a weed eater?" asked the first redneck.

"No," his friend replied.

"You're queer, ain't ya?"


Two hillbillies decide they want to improve their lot so they decide to enroll at the local community college. They go to the administrative offices and find out that there's an entrance exam they have to take, but they are lucky and can take it that afternoon.

They go in, sit down, and get to work on the tests.

"Hey, Billy Joe, this is tough! How do you spell 'farm'?" Jimmy Wayne asks.

 "You idjit," Jimmy Wayne says, "It's e-i-e-i-o!"
 
2014-05-16 06:29:01 PM  

Lsherm: Benevolent Misanthrope: While the article is stupid, I will say that I did face a certain amount of academic and professional prejudice because of my Southern accent.  People heard me speak with a Savannah drawl, and immediately assumed I was stupid, racist and incapable of doing the job.  For the first several years of my career I had to overcome that.  Luckily, in Canada it's a novelty not a drawback.

I grew up in northern Kentucky and southern Ohio and I learned how to get rid of my accent real fast.  I didn't even realize I had one until I went to college.  I'd normally sound like David Letterman, just a standard midwestern accent, but on certain words people would call me on it.  Like I'd be in the middle of a sentence, hit the word "roof" or "fire" and someone would ask "WHAT did you just say?" like I had just shiat all over my desk.  I still say Louisville like I've got a mouth full of molasses.


My kid brother went the opposite route.. He went from a Boston accent to fluent Bumpkin by the end of his first semester in South Carolina.
 
2014-05-16 06:32:05 PM  
"Appalachian studies"

Well that right there is your problem.
 
2014-05-16 06:32:51 PM  
I don't know if I want to live in a world with rednecks getting educated. The mixture of those people with normal educated people...it's...just...unnatural, and against what God intended.
 
2014-05-16 06:32:58 PM  

Benevolent Misanthrope: While the article is stupid, I will say that I did face a certain amount of academic and professional prejudice because of my Southern accent.  People heard me speak with a Savannah drawl, and immediately assumed I was stupid, racist and incapable of doing the job.  For the first several years of my career I had to overcome that.  Luckily, in Canada it's a novelty not a drawback.


One of my favorite college econ professors had just about the thickest southern accent I've ever heard. Hearing him say Laspeyres (Lah-Pear) was once the highlight of my week. But I won't lie, I probably started off that quarter a bit biased, thinking "this hick is going to be teaching me?" somewhere in the back of my head.
 
2014-05-16 06:33:20 PM  

dolphkhan: Lsherm: Benevolent Misanthrope: While the article is stupid, I will say that I did face a certain amount of academic and professional prejudice because of my Southern accent.  People heard me speak with a Savannah drawl, and immediately assumed I was stupid, racist and incapable of doing the job.  For the first several years of my career I had to overcome that.  Luckily, in Canada it's a novelty not a drawback.

I grew up in northern Kentucky and southern Ohio and I learned how to get rid of my accent real fast.  I didn't even realize I had one until I went to college.  I'd normally sound like David Letterman, just a standard midwestern accent, but on certain words people would call me on it.  Like I'd be in the middle of a sentence, hit the word "roof" or "fire" and someone would ask "WHAT did you just say?" like I had just shiat all over my desk.  I still say Louisville like I've got a mouth full of molasses.

My kid brother went the opposite route.. He went from a Boston accent to fluent Bumpkin by the end of his first semester in South Carolina.


Ya'll git in da cah?
 
2014-05-16 06:34:15 PM  

Benevolent Misanthrope: While the article is stupid, I will say that I did face a certain amount of academic and professional prejudice because of my Southern accent.  People heard me speak with a Savannah drawl, and immediately assumed I was stupid, racist and incapable of doing the job.  For the first several years of my career I had to overcome that.  Luckily, in Canada it's a novelty not a drawback.


The ex has a pronounced Mizzourah accent, and is an extremely bright and capable woman. So, yeah. That happens.
 
2014-05-16 06:37:03 PM  

soseussme: buckeyebrain: Two rednecks decided that they weren't going anywhere in life and thought they should go to college to get ahead.

The first went in to see the counselor, who told him to take math, history, and logic. "What's logic?" the first redneck asked.

The professor answered, "Let me give you an example. Do you own a weed eater?"

"I sure do."

"Then I can assume, using logic, that you have a yard," replied the professor.

"That's real good!" said the redneck. The professor continued, "Logic will also tell me that since you have a yard, you also own a house."

Impressed, the redneck said, "Amazing!"

"And since you own a house, logic dictates that you have a wife."

"That's Betty Mae! This is incredible!" The redneck was catching on.

"Finally, since you have a wife, logically I can assume that you are heterosexual," said the professor.

"You're absolutely right! Why that's the most fascinatin' thing I ever heard! I cain't wait to take that logic class!"

The redneck, proud of the new world opening up to him, walked back into the hallway where his friend was still waiting.

"So what classes are ya takin' ?" asked the friend.

"Math, history, and logic!" replied the first redneck.

"What in tarnation is logic?" asked his friend.

"Let me give you an example. Do ya own a weed eater?" asked the first redneck.

"No," his friend replied.

"You're queer, ain't ya?"

Two hillbillies decide they want to improve their lot so they decide to enroll at the local community college. They go to the administrative offices and find out that there's an entrance exam they have to take, but they are lucky and can take it that afternoon.

They go in, sit down, and get to work on the tests.

"Hey, Billy Joe, this is tough! How do you spell 'farm'?" Jimmy Wayne asks.

 "You idjit," Jimmy Wayne says, "It's e-i-e-i-o!"


Two hillbilly girls go into the big city to see the sights.  They happen upon a photography studio and decide to get their picture made.
As they pose, the photographer looks into the camera and starts making adjustments.

The first girl asked "What's he doin'?"
The second answered, "Oh, he's gonna focus".
The first replied, "Both of us?"
 
2014-05-16 06:39:58 PM  
i.imgur.com
 
2014-05-16 06:40:29 PM  
On the faculty discussion board, a staff member posted a complaint about a student walking around barefoot in a building.
Sounds like every white female and black chick from a southern state I ever knew
 
2014-05-16 06:42:46 PM  

MFAWG: Benevolent Misanthrope: While the article is stupid, I will say that I did face a certain amount of academic and professional prejudice because of my Southern accent.  People heard me speak with a Savannah drawl, and immediately assumed I was stupid, racist and incapable of doing the job.  For the first several years of my career I had to overcome that.  Luckily, in Canada it's a novelty not a drawback.

The ex has a pronounced Mizzourah accent, and is an extremely bright and capable woman. So, yeah. That happens.


Of course it happens, hell it's happening in this thread.
 
2014-05-16 06:47:06 PM  
Back when I wore Birkenstocks the bottoms of my feet would sometimes get hot and I'd take the sandals them off and walk around barefoot on the tile floor to cool them off, say, to get a printout on the printer (I are a college porfesser). So I'd cut the kid some slack.
 
2014-05-16 06:47:09 PM  
Grew up in central Kentucky with a pretty pronounced twang. I now work in academia, having lost my accent (intentionally). I can't tell you how many times I've heard "Wow, you're from Kentucky? You don't sound like it," said as a compliment.

Prejudice against Southerners is a thing, and trust me, I know the stereotype exists for reasons. But it has real consequences for those of us who happen to have grown up Southern and blue collar but have aspirations outside that mold. Last semester my labmate turned down a student looking for research credit in our lab because "his (Appalachian) accent was too thick." That was really her reason.

People, an accent is an accent, not an IQ proxy.

/I acquired one more lab monkey last semester than I had planned.
 
2014-05-16 06:48:12 PM  
I should also say that my grandmother was a tough old Polish woman who used to shovel the sidewalk in sandals.
 
2014-05-16 06:50:23 PM  

Campanula: Grew up in central Kentucky with a pretty pronounced twang. I now work in academia, having lost my accent (intentionally). I can't tell you how many times I've heard "Wow, you're from Kentucky? You don't sound like it," said as a compliment.

Prejudice against Southerners is a thing, and trust me, I know the stereotype exists for reasons. But it has real consequences for those of us who happen to have grown up Southern and blue collar but have aspirations outside that mold. Last semester my labmate turned down a student looking for research credit in our lab because "his (Appalachian) accent was too thick." That was really her reason.

People, an accent is an accent, not an IQ proxy.

/I acquired one more lab monkey last semester than I had planned.


They always make fun of the way I talk, I keep telling them I said your gonna be
real surprised when you get into the habit in St. Petersburg and say,
"Y'all get into the truck, we goin up to the big house."

- Jeff Foxworthy
 
2014-05-16 06:52:27 PM  
I prefer the term "Appalachian-American".

/just sayin'
/DNRTFA
 
2014-05-16 06:53:21 PM  

soseussme: "You idjit," Jimmy Wayne says, "It's e-i-e-i-o!"


More like "ee-ah-ee-ah-au"
 
2014-05-16 06:54:04 PM  

Diogenes:


Excuse me, that is offensive. I'll have you know it is THE University of Texas. I be proudly gradmumated from there.
 
2014-05-16 07:00:48 PM  
Discrimination Against Hillbillies Is Rampant in Higher Education

This just in: water, it's wet.
 
2014-05-16 07:03:49 PM  
The local community college has a professor that never wears shoes. He teaches aboriginal living skills.

You've probably heard of him:

www.theonlinerocket.com
 
2014-05-16 07:04:00 PM  
I grew up in Mass and went to college in VA. I went to many classes barefoot. I started wearing flip flops about halfway through my sophomore year because the Dining Hall folks finally noticed. I wasn't a hippie, but I did wear baggy jeans a lot, so most people didn't notice. I never had much love for shoes and often shoveled snow barefoot growing up.
Now that I'm sort of grown up I wear boots when I'm doing construction work, but most of the time I wear boat shoes or flip flops. Hell, I wore boat shoes to the ski area days a week this winter.
And yeah, the southern bias is real. But it goes both ways. Talking to the mechanic or another laborer while I'm laying concrete, I use a southern accent peppered with some Spanish slang. Speaking with business clients for commercial work, I cut the accent out or make it barely noticeable. For the rednecks who are done fixin to get hitched, I go as drawly as I can.
 
2014-05-16 07:14:07 PM  

Campanula: Grew up in central Kentucky with a pretty pronounced twang. I now work in academia, having lost my accent (intentionally). I can't tell you how many times I've heard "Wow, you're from Kentucky? You don't sound like it," said as a compliment.

Prejudice against Southerners is a thing, and trust me, I know the stereotype exists for reasons. But it has real consequences for those of us who happen to have grown up Southern and blue collar but have aspirations outside that mold. Last semester my labmate turned down a student looking for research credit in our lab because "his (Appalachian) accent was too thick." That was really her reason.

People, an accent is an accent, not an IQ proxy.

/I acquired one more lab monkey last semester than I had planned.


Cinci has a human rights ordinance, which protects people
from discrimination based on race, gender, age, color,
religion, disability status, marital status, or
ethnic, national, or Appalachian regional origin.
 
2014-05-16 07:16:15 PM  
Just say you are barefoot hippie, problem solved!
 
2014-05-16 07:21:39 PM  

Campanula: Prejudice against Southerners is a thing, ...
People, an accent is an accent, not an IQ proxy.


Yet white people who think they are unfairly judged by their accent are often the first to deride how blacks talk and bring up Ebonics.
 
2014-05-16 07:23:55 PM  
Relax, rednecks.

2.bp.blogspot.com
 
2014-05-16 07:24:47 PM  

wellreadneck: Campanula: Grew up in central Kentucky with a pretty pronounced twang. I now work in academia, having lost my accent (intentionally). I can't tell you how many times I've heard "Wow, you're from Kentucky? You don't sound like it," said as a compliment.

Prejudice against Southerners is a thing, and trust me, I know the stereotype exists for reasons. But it has real consequences for those of us who happen to have grown up Southern and blue collar but have aspirations outside that mold. Last semester my labmate turned down a student looking for research credit in our lab because "his (Appalachian) accent was too thick." That was really her reason.

People, an accent is an accent, not an IQ proxy.

/I acquired one more lab monkey last semester than I had planned.

Cinci has a human rights ordinance, which protects people
from discrimination based on race, gender, age, color,
religion, disability status, marital status, or
ethnic, national, or Appalachian regional origin.


That's quite cool! I'm wondering how common this in among Appalachian states. I know some Kentucky schools that have diversity programs that include students from Appalachia, but I don't know about cities.
 
2014-05-16 07:29:13 PM  

HairBolus: Campanula: Prejudice against Southerners is a thing, ...
People, an accent is an accent, not an IQ proxy.

Yet white people who think they are unfairly judged by their accent are often the first to deride how blacks talk and bring up Ebonics.


Which somehow makes it acceptable when the shoe is on the other foot (or not on the other foot, as the case may be here)?

Like I said, I understand that there are plenty of Southerners who fulfill the stereotype. I am not one of them; as someone who is sensitive regarding her own accent, I'm not prone to deriding others for theirs. So if you'd kindly redirect that broad brush elsewhere, I'd be much obliged.
 
2014-05-16 07:33:33 PM  

Campanula: HairBolus: Campanula: Prejudice against Southerners is a thing, ...
People, an accent is an accent, not an IQ proxy.

Yet white people who think they are unfairly judged by their accent are often the first to deride how blacks talk and bring up Ebonics.

Which somehow makes it acceptable when the shoe is on the other foot (or not on the other foot, as the case may be here)?

Like I said, I understand that there are plenty of Southerners who fulfill the stereotype. I am not one of them; as someone who is sensitive regarding her own accent, I'm not prone to deriding others for theirs. So if you'd kindly redirect that broad brush elsewhere, I'd be much obliged.


I think he's speaking toward the low- grade hypocrisy of some getting mad at one denigrating people with [accent A] while themselves denigrating those with [accent B].
 
2014-05-16 07:33:43 PM  

Campanula: wellreadneck: Campanula: Grew up in central Kentucky with a pretty pronounced twang. I now work in academia, having lost my accent (intentionally). I can't tell you how many times I've heard "Wow, you're from Kentucky? You don't sound like it," said as a compliment.

Prejudice against Southerners is a thing, and trust me, I know the stereotype exists for reasons. But it has real consequences for those of us who happen to have grown up Southern and blue collar but have aspirations outside that mold. Last semester my labmate turned down a student looking for research credit in our lab because "his (Appalachian) accent was too thick." That was really her reason.

People, an accent is an accent, not an IQ proxy.

/I acquired one more lab monkey last semester than I had planned.

Cinci has a human rights ordinance, which protects people
from discrimination based on race, gender, age, color,
religion, disability status, marital status, or
ethnic, national, or Appalachian regional origin.

That's quite cool! I'm wondering how common this in among Appalachian states. I know some Kentucky schools that have diversity programs that include students from Appalachia, but I don't know about cities.


No others that I'm aware of.

By any chance, have you read Creeker?
 
2014-05-16 07:35:23 PM  
http://www.kirkusreviews.com/book-reviews/linda-scott-derosier/creeker /
 
2014-05-16 07:35:39 PM  

BlueDWarrior: Campanula: HairBolus: Campanula: Prejudice against Southerners is a thing, ...
People, an accent is an accent, not an IQ proxy.

Yet white people who think they are unfairly judged by their accent are often the first to deride how blacks talk and bring up Ebonics.

Which somehow makes it acceptable when the shoe is on the other foot (or not on the other foot, as the case may be here)?

Like I said, I understand that there are plenty of Southerners who fulfill the stereotype. I am not one of them; as someone who is sensitive regarding her own accent, I'm not prone to deriding others for theirs. So if you'd kindly redirect that broad brush elsewhere, I'd be much obliged.

I think he's speaking toward the low- grade hypocrisy of some getting mad at one denigrating people with [accent A] while themselves denigrating those with [accent B].


Forgot to add I'm not sure if he was calling you out in particular.
 
2014-05-16 07:38:09 PM  
wellreadneck:

No others that I'm aware of.

By any chance, have you read Creeker?


No, I haven't, but looks interesting. I also keep meaning to and keep forgetting to read Bastard out of Carolina. Maybe now that the semester is over I can do some for-fun reading instead of just for-work reading.
 
2014-05-16 07:40:43 PM  

steklo: [img.fark.net image 400x533]

you can call me edumacated!


And thats what happens when you open beer bottles with your teeth.
Mom's advice.
She was right.
 
2014-05-16 07:42:04 PM  

BlueDWarrior: BlueDWarrior: Campanula: HairBolus: Campanula: Prejudice against Southerners is a thing, ...
People, an accent is an accent, not an IQ proxy.

Yet white people who think they are unfairly judged by their accent are often the first to deride how blacks talk and bring up Ebonics.

Which somehow makes it acceptable when the shoe is on the other foot (or not on the other foot, as the case may be here)?

Like I said, I understand that there are plenty of Southerners who fulfill the stereotype. I am not one of them; as someone who is sensitive regarding her own accent, I'm not prone to deriding others for theirs. So if you'd kindly redirect that broad brush elsewhere, I'd be much obliged.

I think he's speaking toward the low- grade hypocrisy of some getting mad at one denigrating people with [accent A] while themselves denigrating those with [accent B].

Forgot to add I'm not sure if he was calling you out in particular.


Fair point. With a short statement it's easy to infer things that may not be there.
 
2014-05-16 07:53:49 PM  
Ahhh. Rural ohio: where the men are men and the sheep are nervous.

/from prebletucky
//still know what the slashies are for
 
2014-05-16 07:54:51 PM  
Hillbillie chemistry lab:

www.envtesting.com
 
2014-05-16 08:04:59 PM  
What the fark did I just read?

And why in the sphincter of hell did it get greenlighted?
 
2014-05-16 08:13:26 PM  
Th' academah. It claims t'stan' fo' inclusiveness an' divahsity an' voices of dissent.
But whut happens when students decide t'vote wif their feet-their bare feet-an' a professo' calls them students "hillbillies"?
Wal suh, yo've got a discriminashun problem, dawgone it.
 
2014-05-16 08:18:14 PM  
You try attending Harvard after growing up in West Virginia before you start making assumptions.
 
2014-05-16 08:19:49 PM  

Danger Avoid Death: That was just the kind of stupid I've come to expect from Gawker. Thanks for not letting me down. Oh, and I want that 60 seconds of my life back.


This means something.... This is important...
 
2014-05-16 08:23:54 PM  
I got out of West Virginia as soon as I could so I wouldn't be tarred with the hillbilly stereotype.  I can't imagine the prejudice I'd have to face if I hadn't moved to South Carolina.
 
2014-05-16 08:31:07 PM  
Some places are known to have a disproportionately high number of dumb people.
 
2014-05-16 08:35:03 PM  
I think this was at the university in my town (Appalachian State in Boone, NC).
And that wasn't a hillbilly, it was a trustafarian. The professor must be new.

Boone has its share of both rich hippies and country folk, but the latter don't wander onto campus often, and certainly not for classes. There is some decided "town and gown" tension here.
 
2014-05-16 08:38:39 PM  
No hate like liberal hate. No worse than the N word or any other cultural slur. Why is it okay to pick on some groups, but others are protected? What happened to inclusion and tolerance?
 
2014-05-16 08:39:18 PM  
from the commentssissyspaceship100
 A tempest in a teapot, but a good entry to discussing the American left's class snobbery. Lefties (especially the center lefties who rule the academy) have alienated poor, and working class whites by abandoning populism in favor of slick, smug, cosmopolitan intellectualism. Liberals hate rural people. They pity and loathe uneduated people. They're disgusted by white poverty. They mock rural traditions and rural values. And this class snobbery has created a vacuum into which conservatives have happily packed guns, vainglory, fundamentalism, nationalism, paranoia, racism, and all the fried chicken you can eat-whatever it takes to exploit people's fears and insecurities and earn votes. So, the next time you're frustrated by the failure of gun legislation or health care legislation or public school funding or progressive taxation and you're wondering why all of those stupid peckerwoods in the red states keep "voting against their own interests" thank all the self-serving, elitist progressives whose class hatred has pushed half country into the arms of reactionaries. Poor white trash might be backwards and stupid, but they're not stupid enough to vote for people who think they're garbage.
 
2014-05-16 08:40:15 PM  

HairBolus: Campanula: Prejudice against Southerners is a thing, ...
People, an accent is an accent, not an IQ proxy.

Yet white people who think they are unfairly judged by their accent are often the first to deride how blacks talk and bring up Ebonics.


Both sides are bad.
 
2014-05-16 08:40:53 PM  
 
2014-05-16 08:42:05 PM  

Snarfangel: Please. They prefer to be called "people of the soil."

Or "undocumented distillers," if they have gumption.


Y'know, if this person had sold a few pints to buy some shoes, they'd hardly be the first.
 
2014-05-16 08:48:54 PM  

Arthen: You try attending Harvard after growing up in West Virginia before you start making assumptions.


It's cheaper just to move to the Bay Area.
 
2014-05-16 08:49:02 PM  

gnumoon: I think this was at the university in my town (Appalachian State in Boone, NC).
And that wasn't a hillbilly, it was a trustafarian. The professor must be new.

Boone has its share of both rich hippies and country folk, but the latter don't wander onto campus often, and certainly not for classes. There is some decided "town and gown" tension here.


Greetings, o boone goon.
Myself, I moved to Boone in 74 as the new wife of a hotshot college dean.

Talk about culture shock. I am now certified as "almost a native" because I am possessed of an "almost authentic" Blue Ridge twang.

With an earned doctorate, I've been pleased to be identified as a hillbilly. Gives the degree a little more class.
 
2014-05-16 08:50:46 PM  

conjecture and hearsay: Some places are known to have a disproportionately high number of dumb people.


Yes. Berkeley, California, for an example.

/speaking of 'spit on their car'...
 
2014-05-16 08:51:58 PM  

wellreadneck: from the commentssissyspaceship100
 A tempest in a teapot, but a good entry to discussing the American left's class snobbery. Lefties (especially the center lefties who rule the academy) have alienated poor, and working class whites by abandoning populism in favor of slick, smug, cosmopolitan intellectualism. Liberals hate rural people. They pity and loathe uneduated people. They're disgusted by white poverty. They mock rural traditions and rural values. And this class snobbery has created a vacuum into which conservatives have happily packed guns, vainglory, fundamentalism, nationalism, paranoia, racism, and all the fried chicken you can eat-whatever it takes to exploit people's fears and insecurities and earn votes. So, the next time you're frustrated by the failure of gun legislation or health care legislation or public school funding or progressive taxation and you're wondering why all of those stupid peckerwoods in the red states keep "voting against their own interests" thank all the self-serving, elitist progressives whose class hatred has pushed half country into the arms of reactionaries. Poor white trash might be backwards and stupid, but they're not stupid enough to vote for people who think they're garbage.


I have to say you certainly have a point. Cannot recall another summary of localpolitik as succinct as yours.
 
2014-05-16 08:53:31 PM  
I do think that eventually, people who use words like "redneck" will be regarded by society to be the same as bigots who use other racial or ethnic slurs. It seems like it's just a matter of time.
 
2014-05-16 09:01:24 PM  

wellreadneck: from the commentssissyspaceship100
 A tempest in a teapot, but a good entry to discussing the American left's class snobbery. Lefties (especially the center lefties who rule the academy) have alienated poor, and working class whites by abandoning populism in favor of slick, smug, cosmopolitan intellectualism. Liberals hate rural people. They pity and loathe uneduated people. They're disgusted by white poverty. They mock rural traditions and rural values. And this class snobbery has created a vacuum into which conservatives have happily packed guns, vainglory, fundamentalism, nationalism, paranoia, racism, and all the fried chicken you can eat-whatever it takes to exploit people's fears and insecurities and earn votes. So, the next time you're frustrated by the failure of gun legislation or health care legislation or public school funding or progressive taxation and you're wondering why all of those stupid peckerwoods in the red states keep "voting against their own interests" thank all the self-serving, elitist progressives whose class hatred has pushed half country into the arms of reactionaries. Poor white trash might be backwards and stupid, but they're not stupid enough to vote for people who think they're garbage.


THANK YOU!  Fark, I don't know how many times I've tried to explain this to people wondering why the Democrats aren't making inroads in Texas and the South as a whole.  That sort of shiat undermines everything that local Dems manage to accomplish.
 
2014-05-16 09:04:28 PM  

arkansized: wellreadneck: from the commentssissyspaceship100
 A tempest in a teapot, but a good entry to discussing the American left's class snobbery. Lefties (especially the center lefties who rule the academy) have alienated poor, and working class whites by abandoning populism in favor of slick, smug, cosmopolitan intellectualism. Liberals hate rural people. They pity and loathe uneduated people. They're disgusted by white poverty. They mock rural traditions and rural values. And this class snobbery has created a vacuum into which conservatives have happily packed guns, vainglory, fundamentalism, nationalism, paranoia, racism, and all the fried chicken you can eat-whatever it takes to exploit people's fears and insecurities and earn votes. So, the next time you're frustrated by the failure of gun legislation or health care legislation or public school funding or progressive taxation and you're wondering why all of those stupid peckerwoods in the red states keep "voting against their own interests" thank all the self-serving, elitist progressives whose class hatred has pushed half country into the arms of reactionaries. Poor white trash might be backwards and stupid, but they're not stupid enough to vote for people who think they're garbage.

I have to say you certainly have a point. Cannot recall another summary of localpolitik as succinct as yours.


Not mine. Any credit should go to SissySpaceship100, a poster at Gawker.
 
2014-05-16 09:05:30 PM  
I went to an engineering school in the 1980s, and they could not have given less of a fark about what we wore on campus. Seriously, you could show up to class in gym shorts, a t-shirt and barefoot, and no one would blink an eye. We had one student who NEVER wore shoes, year-round, but he was from South Asia somewhere, I think Pakistan. Possibly a Khyber Pass hillbilly. He always wore long slacks and a suit coat, but no shoes.

/Person of Appalachian origin, but I farking HATE going shoeless.
 
2014-05-16 09:08:49 PM  

wellreadneck: from the commentssissyspaceship100
 A tempest in a teapot, but a good entry to discussing the American left's class snobbery. Lefties (especially the center lefties who rule the academy) have alienated poor, and working class whites by abandoning populism in favor of slick, smug, cosmopolitan intellectualism. Liberals hate rural people. They pity and loathe uneduated people. They're disgusted by white poverty. They mock rural traditions and rural values. And this class snobbery has created a vacuum into which conservatives have happily packed guns, vainglory, fundamentalism, nationalism, paranoia, racism, and all the fried chicken you can eat-whatever it takes to exploit people's fears and insecurities and earn votes. So, the next time you're frustrated by the failure of gun legislation or health care legislation or public school funding or progressive taxation and you're wondering why all of those stupid peckerwoods in the red states keep "voting against their own interests" thank all the self-serving, elitist progressives whose class hatred has pushed half country into the arms of reactionaries. Poor white trash might be backwards and stupid, but they're not stupid enough to vote for people who think they're garbage.


So they're vulnerable to exploitative tactics? That's not particularly flattering, and doesn't really reflect on academia all that much.

I grew up in a town (pop. 1000) where college was a thing for, maybe, one out of every ten kids in my school. The rest didn't go to college not because it hurt their feelings, but because the money wasn't there to make it happen. Or their grades were poor because their parents worked them like slaves so they wouldn't have to hire farmhands. Or their teachers saw them stumble over the word "neighborhood" in second grade and decided that they were illiterates who weren't worth teaching - not when Suzy Goldenchild could read the entire Riverview Journal before all her baby teeth were out.

"We're sorry, we're rejecting your application to our University because you grew up in a poor white rural community and have a Galveston accent," said NO ENROLLMENT COMMITTEE EVER.
 
2014-05-16 09:12:10 PM  

wellreadneck: from the commentssissyspaceship100
 A tempest in a teapot, but a good entry to discussing the American left's class snobbery. Lefties (especially the center lefties who rule the academy) have alienated poor, and working class whites by abandoning populism in favor of slick, smug, cosmopolitan intellectualism. Liberals hate rural people. They pity and loathe uneduated people. They're disgusted by white poverty. They mock rural traditions and rural values. And this class snobbery has created a vacuum into which conservatives have happily packed guns, vainglory, fundamentalism, nationalism, paranoia, racism, and all the fried chicken you can eat-whatever it takes to exploit people's fears and insecurities and earn votes.


Well... sounds like someone is mocking rural traditions and rural values.
 
2014-05-16 09:12:14 PM  
Both of them?
 
2014-05-16 09:15:59 PM  

peasandcarrots: So they're vulnerable to exploitative tactics? That's not particularly flattering, and doesn't really reflect on academia all that much.


They wouldn't be nearly as receptive to those tactics if it wasn't made clear to them that their votes are unwanted by the other party.
 
2014-05-16 09:24:36 PM  
Seeing as I'm a redneck, I feel kind of oblimagated to stand up for my distant cousins, the hillbillies....
 
2014-05-16 09:26:42 PM  

peasandcarrots: wellreadneck: from the commentssissyspaceship100
 A tempest in a teapot, but a good entry to discussing the American left's class snobbery. Lefties (especially the center lefties who rule the academy) have alienated poor, and working class whites by abandoning populism in favor of slick, smug, cosmopolitan intellectualism. Liberals hate rural people. They pity and loathe uneduated people. They're disgusted by white poverty. They mock rural traditions and rural values. And this class snobbery has created a vacuum into which conservatives have happily packed guns, vainglory, fundamentalism, nationalism, paranoia, racism, and all the fried chicken you can eat-whatever it takes to exploit people's fears and insecurities and earn votes. So, the next time you're frustrated by the failure of gun legislation or health care legislation or public school funding or progressive taxation and you're wondering why all of those stupid peckerwoods in the red states keep "voting against their own interests" thank all the self-serving, elitist progressives whose class hatred has pushed half country into the arms of reactionaries. Poor white trash might be backwards and stupid, but they're not stupid enough to vote for people who think they're garbage.

So they're vulnerable to exploitative tactics? That's not particularly flattering, and doesn't really reflect on academia all that much.

I grew up in a town (pop. 1000) where college was a thing for, maybe, one out of every ten kids in my school. The rest didn't go to college not because it hurt their feelings, but because the money wasn't there to make it happen. Or their grades were poor because their parents worked them like slaves so they wouldn't have to hire farmhands. Or their teachers saw them stumble over the word "neighborhood" in second grade and decided that they were illiterates who weren't worth teaching - not when Suzy Goldenchild could read the entire Riverview Journal before all her baby teeth were out.

"We're sorry, ...


Considering that the thread concerns an academic's nonchalant usage of an ethnic slur, your certainty about the inexistence of prejudice against Appalachians in higher learning might be a bit naive.
 
2014-05-16 09:26:54 PM  

conjecture and hearsay: Some places are known to have a disproportionately high number of dumb people.


But enough about Congress...

/try the veal
 
2014-05-16 09:31:31 PM  
Its perfectly acceptable to be prejudicial/discriminate/mock people for decisions they make. There is a major difference between someone who chooses to live a certain way vs someone who is born that way.
 
2014-05-16 09:41:12 PM  
I started my IT career doing DOS-based modem support for banking software. I learned rather quickly that when you're dealing with payroll files worth millions of dollars, people don't want to hear, "Well, whutcha got thar is a leetle bug in that that daytuhbase. We gonna delete some a' them temprary files, and restart it back up, and you're a-gonna be back in bidness in no time."

I now talk like I'm from some indeterminate part of the Midwest.
 
2014-05-16 09:43:41 PM  
Dude should wear shoes.

But then again, the people who wear their pants hanging down around their thighs should dress appropriately also.  And I have seen such "fashion trends" vigorously defended on fark, as a "right".  So who knows.  And heaven forbid you call such people any sort of heritage based epithet!
 
2014-05-16 09:45:57 PM  

wellreadneck: from the commentssissyspaceship100
 Poor white trash might be backwards and stupid, but they're not stupid enough to vote for people who think they're garbage.


oh, the repubs think they are garbage too, they just gleefully exploit their stupidity and ignorance instead of suggesting that there are alternatives to being stupid and ignorant
 
2014-05-16 09:46:10 PM  
I'm just going to drop this here...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u2XlSXcwJ3o
 
2014-05-16 09:50:01 PM  

NEDM: peasandcarrots: So they're vulnerable to exploitative tactics? That's not particularly flattering, and doesn't really reflect on academia all that much.

They wouldn't be nearly as receptive to those tactics if it wasn't made clear to them that their votes are unwanted by the other party.


Basically what we are seeing is the Urban/Rural conflict being translated into the Democratic/Republican Party conflict.

The decimation of the Urban Republicans and Rural Democrats is currently causing normal political conflict to mutate into seemingly unsolvable cultural conflict.
 
2014-05-16 09:55:22 PM  
So a professor sees a hillbilly walking around campus with only one shoe.

"Did you lose a shoe?" the professor asked.

"Nope," drawled the hillbilly. "Found one."
 
2014-05-16 10:10:52 PM  

SBinRR: soseussme: buckeyebrain: Two rednecks decided that they weren't going anywhere in life and thought they should go to college to get ahead.

The first went in to see the counselor, who told him to take math, history, and logic. "What's logic?" the first redneck asked.

The professor answered, "Let me give you an example. Do you own a weed eater?"

"I sure do."

"Then I can assume, using logic, that you have a yard," replied the professor.

"That's real good!" said the redneck. The professor continued, "Logic will also tell me that since you have a yard, you also own a house."

Impressed, the redneck said, "Amazing!"

"And since you own a house, logic dictates that you have a wife."

"That's Betty Mae! This is incredible!" The redneck was catching on.

"Finally, since you have a wife, logically I can assume that you are heterosexual," said the professor.

"You're absolutely right! Why that's the most fascinatin' thing I ever heard! I cain't wait to take that logic class!"

The redneck, proud of the new world opening up to him, walked back into the hallway where his friend was still waiting.

"So what classes are ya takin' ?" asked the friend.

"Math, history, and logic!" replied the first redneck.

"What in tarnation is logic?" asked his friend.

"Let me give you an example. Do ya own a weed eater?" asked the first redneck.

"No," his friend replied.

"You're queer, ain't ya?"

Two hillbillies decide they want to improve their lot so they decide to enroll at the local community college. They go to the administrative offices and find out that there's an entrance exam they have to take, but they are lucky and can take it that afternoon.

They go in, sit down, and get to work on the tests.

"Hey, Billy Joe, this is tough! How do you spell 'farm'?" Jimmy Wayne asks.

 "You idjit," Jimmy Wayne says, "It's e-i-e-i-o!"

Two hillbilly girls go into the big city to see the sights.  They happen upon a photography studio and decide to get their picture made.
As they pose, the photographer looks into the camera and starts making adjustments.

The first girl asked "What's he doin'?"
The second answered, "Oh, he's gonna focus".
The first replied, "Both of us?"


Couple of rednecks, Bubba and Junior are out workin', diggin' on this big hole. Hot, sweaty, covered in mud and not too happy about their pay. Bubba looks up and sees the foreman lookin' over the edge down at them, wearing his clean white clothes.

This upsets him, so he looks over at Junior and says "You ever wonder why it like dat?"

Junior looks up, confused and asks "Like wut?"

"Man, we down here in dis here hole, covered in mud and workin' 're asses off and not makin' nothin'. But him up thur, he don' do nothin' walks round in them clean white clothes and makes all da money!"

Junior don't stop shovelin' just shrugs and says, "I dunno, why don' ya git up there and ask?" So Bubba decides this is what he'll do. Gets up out the hole and finds the foreman.

"Hey, I gots somethin' I want to know. How come we down in that hole, hot and dirty and not makin' no money, then you come by all nice and clean but get all da pay? Why it like dat?"

The foreman stops and thinks for a second then makes up his mind. He leans over and puts his hand up against a tree. "You see my hand? I want you to punch it as hard as you can."

"Naw bossman, I cain't do that," Bubba protests, "I'll break yer hand!"

"No, you won't. Just go ahead," the foreman assures. Bubba hesitates, then takes at a swing with all his might. At the last second, the foreman moves his hand out the way. "That's why it's like that, stupidity."

Cursing and hurting, Bubba goes back to the hole and goes back to work. Junior starts prodding, asking what answer he got. Bubba just starts shoveling faster, his face turning red. After a few minutes, Junior can't take it. He grabs Bubba by the shoulders and asks "What'd he tell ya?! Why it like dat?!"

Bubba stops diggin' and starts to look around. But he can't find any trees down in the hole. So he holds his hand up in front of his face and says, "Ya see my hand?" ....
 
2014-05-16 10:18:51 PM  

buckeyebrain: Two rednecks decided that they weren't going anywhere in life and thought they should go to college to get ahead.

The first went in to see the counselor, who told him to take math, history, and logic. "What's logic?" the first redneck asked.

The professor answered, "Let me give you an example. Do you own a weed eater?"

"I sure do."

"Then I can assume, using logic, that you have a yard," replied the professor.

"That's real good!" said the redneck. The professor continued, "Logic will also tell me that since you have a yard, you also own a house."

Impressed, the redneck said, "Amazing!"

"And since you own a house, logic dictates that you have a wife."

"That's Betty Mae! This is incredible!" The redneck was catching on.

"Finally, since you have a wife, logically I can assume that you are heterosexual," said the professor.

"You're absolutely right! Why that's the most fascinatin' thing I ever heard! I cain't wait to take that logic class!"

The redneck, proud of the new world opening up to him, walked back into the hallway where his friend was still waiting.

"So what classes are ya takin' ?" asked the friend.

"Math, history, and logic!" replied the first redneck.

"What in tarnation is logic?" asked his friend.

"Let me give you an example. Do ya own a weed eater?" asked the first redneck.

"No," his friend replied.

"You're queer, ain't ya?"


Best LOL I've had all day! Thanks.
 
2014-05-16 10:25:08 PM  

wellreadneck: from the commentssissyspaceship100
 A tempest in a teapot, but a good entry to discussing the American left's class snobbery. Lefties (especially the center lefties who rule the academy) have alienated poor, and working class whites by abandoning populism in favor of slick, smug, cosmopolitan intellectualism. Liberals hate rural people. They pity and loathe uneduated people. They're disgusted by white poverty. They mock rural traditions and rural values. And this class snobbery has created a vacuum into which conservatives have happily packed guns, vainglory, fundamentalism, nationalism, paranoia, racism, and all the fried chicken you can eat-whatever it takes to exploit people's fears and insecurities and earn votes. So, the next time you're frustrated by the failure of gun legislation or health care legislation or public school funding or progressive taxation and you're wondering why all of those stupid peckerwoods in the red states keep "voting against their own interests" thank all the self-serving, elitist progressives whose class hatred has pushed half country into the arms of reactionaries. Poor white trash might be backwards and stupid, but they're not stupid enough to vote for people who think they're garbage.


Ms spaceship may have a point
 
2014-05-16 10:27:23 PM  
I knew this Sephardic Jew who was a consultant at a hospital I worked at who was from some place like Memphis and had this luxuriant river boat gambler's southern accent.  People saw him and would be expecting some east coast Lun Guyland accent and their eyes would open a little wider but that was about it until this New York Jew family comes in around their loved one and want to get the news and they're looking at him like a fellow tribesman, a brother Hymie and he starts out telling them about his disease and they interrupt him 4 times in the first sentence with these Woody Allen whines.  It was one of the funniest things I'd ever seen.  The more irritated they got the more laid back he got until finally they blurt out, "We want a second opinion." on a very cut and dried case. He stood up and said, "Well that's ya'll's right but since the diagnosis is based on lab results nothing is going to change." and left.  We go out in the hall and with a soft chuckle he goes, "I thought that was going to happen.  New Yorkers."
 
2014-05-16 10:29:47 PM  
Heck, we got hillbillies doin' science and stuff on dead bodies.

secretagenttv.files.wordpress.com
 
2014-05-16 10:32:23 PM  

BlueDWarrior: I think he's speaking toward the low- grade hypocrisy of some getting mad at one denigrating people with [accent A] while themselves denigrating those with [accent B].


so in other words a strawman. got it.
 
2014-05-16 10:37:15 PM  
"Can you tell me where the libary is".....
 
2014-05-16 10:39:57 PM  

CyberKultist: Couple of rednecks


See, right there is the problem.

People don't know the difference between rednecks and hillbillies, so they use the words interchangeably.

Hillbillies are from the Appalachian Mountains. They survived mostly on subsistence and had to be clever to do so. They survived on hunting, gathering, and small-plot farming before the coal industry moved in, and in their isolation developed a rich culture of art, music, and innovation. They were labeled as bumpkins because the mountains were the last areas to be connected by roads, publishing, and broadcasting.

Rednecks were any poor white trash from the Southern flatlands, in farming states. "Redneck" was a term to distinguish proper Southern families from the impoverished day-labor types. Rednecks were typically undereducated and any culture they had was made of whatever fell from the land-owners' plates. They were labeled as idiots because they chose to be idiots who celebrated the poverty and ignorance that set them apart from those land-owners.

/Member, Appalachian-American Defense League.
 
2014-05-16 10:52:32 PM  
I wonder what will happen if some gays find a still and demand that some hillbilly make them some gay moonshine?
 
2014-05-16 10:54:21 PM  

Lenny_da_Hog: CyberKultist: Couple of rednecks

See, right there is the problem.

People don't know the difference between rednecks and hillbillies, so they use the words interchangeably.

Hillbillies are from the Appalachian Mountains. They survived mostly on subsistence and had to be clever to do so. They survived on hunting, gathering, and small-plot farming before the coal industry moved in, and in their isolation developed a rich culture of art, music, and innovation. They were labeled as bumpkins because the mountains were the last areas to be connected by roads, publishing, and broadcasting.

Rednecks were any poor white trash from the Southern flatlands, in farming states. "Redneck" was a term to distinguish proper Southern families from the impoverished day-labor types. Rednecks were typically undereducated and any culture they had was made of whatever fell from the land-owners' plates. They were labeled as idiots because they chose to be idiots who celebrated the poverty and ignorance that set them apart from those land-owners.

/Member, Appalachian-American Defense League.


All interchangeable when being racist. They have plenty of similar traits.
:p

/know the nuance differences
//mostly coon-ass myself
 
2014-05-16 11:00:42 PM  
At least we know the difference between barbecue and a dang grill
 
2014-05-16 11:10:29 PM  

Benevolent Misanthrope: While the article is stupid, I will say that I did face a certain amount of academic and professional prejudice because of my Southern accent.  People heard me speak with a Savannah drawl, and immediately assumed I was stupid, racist and incapable of doing the job.  For the first several years of my career I had to overcome that.  Luckily, in Canada it's a novelty not a drawback.


In fairness, most Southerners actually are stupid, racist, and incompetent (:
 
2014-05-16 11:21:17 PM  

Alleyoop: I wonder what will happen if some gays find a still and demand that some hillbilly make them some gay moonshine?


I'm sure it will taste fabulous.
 
2014-05-16 11:31:09 PM  

JesusJuice: Benevolent Misanthrope: While the article is stupid, I will say that I did face a certain amount of academic and professional prejudice because of my Southern accent.  People heard me speak with a Savannah drawl, and immediately assumed I was stupid, racist and incapable of doing the job.  For the first several years of my career I had to overcome that.  Luckily, in Canada it's a novelty not a drawback.

In fairness, most Southerners humansactually are stupid, racist, and incompetent (:


FTFY
 
2014-05-16 11:37:53 PM  
I grew up in LA. (Lower Alabama. The Redneck Riviera. Panama City, FL). Just about everyone I went to school with had, and still has a southern accent. I always tried to speak without one. It worked out well for me. I joined the army as a public affairs specialist. I have been doing broadcast journalism (radio and TV) in the army for the last 12 years. When we did our AIT (Advanced Individual Training - where you go to learn your job after Basic Training), I was fortunate to have no problem with the initial phase (BWAS - Basic Writing and Announcing Skills). Some of my compatriots, however, were struggling with their accents. The instructors told us that people with southern accents are seen as less intelligent than those without. Whether or not it is true, perception is still reality.

/CSB
//Slashies
 
2014-05-16 11:52:25 PM  

Benevolent Misanthrope: While the article is stupid, I will say that I did face a certain amount of academic and professional prejudice because of my Southern accent.  People heard me speak with a Savannah drawl, and immediately assumed I was stupid, racist and incapable of doing the job.  For the first several years of my career I had to overcome that.  Luckily, in Canada it's a novelty not a drawback.


I'm the first generation in 350 years *not* raised on an Appalachian subsistence farm. My parents took the Hillbilly Highway first to New York, then to Ohio, to work in industry. I lost my West-by-God accent in High School, but it kicks back in whenever I talk about the Mountains or go to visit there.

I now speak with a Brian-Williams-esque broadcasting accent. I've lived on the West Coast in Alaska and Oregon for the last 25 years. Very often, once people learn that my family spent 350 years in the hills and hollers, they change the way they treat me and concentrate on associating me with redneck stereotypes.
 
2014-05-17 12:06:39 AM  

Lenny_da_Hog: Benevolent Misanthrope: While the article is stupid, I will say that I did face a certain amount of academic and professional prejudice because of my Southern accent.  People heard me speak with a Savannah drawl, and immediately assumed I was stupid, racist and incapable of doing the job.  For the first several years of my career I had to overcome that.  Luckily, in Canada it's a novelty not a drawback.

I'm the first generation in 350 years *not* raised on an Appalachian subsistence farm. My parents took the Hillbilly Highway first to New York, then to Ohio, to work in industry. I lost my West-by-God accent in High School, but it kicks back in whenever I talk about the Mountains or go to visit there.

I now speak with a Brian-Williams-esque broadcasting accent. I've lived on the West Coast in Alaska and Oregon for the last 25 years. Very often, once people learn that my family spent 350 years in the hills and hollers, they change the way they treat me and concentrate on associating me with redneck stereotypes.


That's so stupid. I'm sorry you have to endure that. I talk more like my Sacramento friends when I'm talking about the river or old times. There aren't any associated negatives with that except from the rare insecure Southern Californian.
 
2014-05-17 12:21:20 AM  

HairBolus: Campanula: Prejudice against Southerners is a thing, ...
People, an accent is an accent, not an IQ proxy.

Yet white people who think they are unfairly judged by their accent are often the first to deride how blacks talk and bring up Ebonics.


That's because even the harshest accents are still more or less English. Though I do have to give credit to Ebonics for taking away the concept of an irregular verb. I be, you be, he/she be, we be, they be. Wow, if only French had been that easy!
 
2014-05-17 12:40:02 AM  

TerminalEchoes: Though I do have to give credit to Ebonics for taking away the concept of an irregular verb. I be, you be, he/she be, we be, they be.


Boo be!
 
2014-05-17 01:16:47 AM  
So we've had several redneck/hillbilly jokes, but has anyone heard the Southern girl / Northern girl joke?

Two girls are sitting next to each other on a plane. The Southern girl, being the friendly if bumbling stereotype that one finds in jokes like these, turns to the Northern girl and asks,

"So, where you from?"

The Northern girl, being the intellectually superior but priggish stereotype also found in jokes like these, sniffs dismissively at the Southern girl,

"I come from a place where we learned not to end a sentence in a preposition."

The Southern girl pauses for a moment, and then smiles and replies sweetly,

"So, where you from, biatch?"
 
2014-05-17 01:20:16 AM  
there's a kid who goes around barefoot at my school but he's from new zealand or something. Also walking barefoot is pretty much accepted where i go because it's a liberal arts college.
/like seriously please stop going to public bathrooms barefoot guys, someone's going to get ringworm
 
2014-05-17 01:56:48 AM  
Few hillbillies graduate middle school.  The only ones in college are mopping the floors.
 
2014-05-17 02:06:10 AM  

charlesmartel11235: there's a kid who goes around barefoot at my school but he's from new zealand or something. Also walking barefoot is pretty much accepted where i go because it's a liberal arts college.
/like seriously please stop going to public bathrooms barefoot guys, someone's going to get ringworm


A ring on their worm?  OK but I thought the gay marriage thing was already taken care of
 
2014-05-17 02:37:35 AM  

charlesmartel11235: there's a kid who goes around barefoot at my school but he's from new zealand or something. Also walking barefoot is pretty much accepted where i go because it's a liberal arts college.
/like seriously please stop going to public bathrooms barefoot guys, someone's going to get ringworm


Whereas I know it will not be me, it is the barefoot person's risk and consideration, not mine. Still, sound advice is sound advice.
 
2014-05-17 03:38:49 AM  
 
2014-05-17 03:53:01 AM  

gerbilpox: Oh, it starts before college.

https://myspace.com/jammyjamm/video/boy-in-a-barn/8995666


There's still a myspace??
 
2014-05-17 03:59:18 AM  
Going barefoot to class means you're a hillbilly? Where I went to college it meant you were a free spirit unconstrained by societal expectations. Or in other words, we were all pretentious hipsters.
 
2014-05-17 04:19:21 AM  

Danger Avoid Death: gerbilpox: Oh, it starts before college.

https://myspace.com/jammyjamm/video/boy-in-a-barn/8995666

There's still a myspace??


Haven't you heard? It's trendy retro, like Happy Days in the 70's and That 70's Show in the 90's/00's.

But I was into it before it was cool.
 
2014-05-17 04:35:20 AM  

kling_klang_bed: Hillbillie chemistry lab:

[www.envtesting.com image 800x562]


My grandmother has that same table... but she's from Oklahoma.

/And she eventually started wearing shoes.
 
2014-05-17 05:14:56 AM  
And speaking as a Canuck who's been down south a fair number of times and knows more than his fair share of southerners, I can say that your "rednecks" who earn a living with their own two hands as skilled tradesmen and women are some of the nicest and, when it comes to basic common sense and inventiveness, smartest folks on the planet.
 
2014-05-17 06:37:16 AM  

LazyMedia: /Person of Appalachian origin, but I farking HATE going shoeless.


Meh, I grew up in NYC and only wear shoes when I absolutely *have* to.  I hate them.  I have never worn them when on stage. I can't type with them on. I take them off if I'm the passenger in a car. I take them off before I take off my coat in winter.  The only time you will ever see shoes on my feet is if I am driving (laws and all) or in a store/restaurant.  At work, some biatchy woman  complained about me not having shoes on in the hallway so I bought intentionally noisy flip flops and flopped them hard past where she worked. It was such a pain to even remember to put them on to go to the bathroom or mail room.

*shrug* I can't explain it, I just prefer to be barefoot. There are photos of me barefoot in the snow, not caring.

And I'm far, far, far from a "hillbilly".  I just hate wearing shoes.
 
2014-05-17 07:15:34 AM  
NEDM:

THANK YOU!  Fark, I don't know how many times I've tried to explain this to people wondering why the Democrats aren't making inroads in Texas and the South as a whole.  That sort of shiat undermines everything that local Dems manage to accomplish.

So you dont actually think the repubs think these people are garbage? They are just accomplished farking liars who not only loathe poor people of all stripes far more than democrats do but shiat on them where democrats try to help them, which adds ANOTHER layer of stupid to the dumb farkers voting for them.

Look at the medicaid provisions in the ACA. The dems tried to help the poorest in every farking state, the repubs try to stop that and shiat on the poor some more, and yet millions of morons lap up the lies.

It is simply sad.
 
2014-05-17 07:49:17 AM  
Gay. The way white men can get minority status.
 
2014-05-17 08:11:58 AM  

JesseL: The local community college has a professor that never wears shoes. He teaches aboriginal living skills.

You've probably heard of him:

[www.theonlinerocket.com image 850x566]


With a modern watch on his wrist....
 
2014-05-17 08:24:20 AM  

gaspode: NEDM:

THANK YOU!  Fark, I don't know how many times I've tried to explain this to people wondering why the Democrats aren't making inroads in Texas and the South as a whole.  That sort of shiat undermines everything that local Dems manage to accomplish.

So you dont actually think the repubs think these people are garbage? They are just accomplished farking liars who not only loathe poor people of all stripes far more than democrats do but shiat on them where democrats try to help them, which adds ANOTHER layer of stupid to the dumb farkers voting for them.

Look at the medicaid provisions in the ACA. The dems tried to help the poorest in every farking state, the repubs try to stop that and shiat on the poor some more, and yet millions of morons lap up the lies.

It is simply sad.


Did...did you even listen to yourself?  "Yeah, the Democrats don't like rural people, but Repubs hate them too!  At least we're trying to help!  Dumb farkers don't know what's good for them!"  Do you have any idea how conceited and elitist that sounds?  You even farking admitted you don't like them very much.  How the fark do you expect rural voters to believe you and vote Democrat when you're calling them too stupid to vote for their own good in the same breath as you say you're the one actually trying to help them?  The Republicans at least have the decency to not insult them to their face when they're trying to woo their vote.

I'll never vote R for the rest of my life, but I'll be damned if I'm not tired of having my own party constantly undermining itself down here with this shiat.
 
2014-05-17 09:17:50 AM  
Nothing I said is not true. Sure it might be politically useful to lie, and most politicians do so.. but one side lies a bit and does good for poor people, the other lies a lot and does bad for poor people. telling bigger and more dishonest lies to trick people into voting for you and shiatting on people is NOT 'decency' it is gross hypocrisy.

There is no evident solution in the absence of an effective press.
 
2014-05-17 09:37:34 AM  

serpent_sky: LazyMedia: /Person of Appalachian origin, but I farking HATE going shoeless.

Meh, I grew up in NYC and only wear shoes when I absolutely *have* to.  I hate them.  I have never worn them when on stage. I can't type with them on. I take them off if I'm the passenger in a car. I take them off before I take off my coat in winter.  The only time you will ever see shoes on my feet is if I am driving (laws and all) or in a store/restaurant.  At work, some biatchy woman  complained about me not having shoes on in the hallway so I bought intentionally noisy flip flops and flopped them hard past where she worked. It was such a pain to even remember to put them on to go to the bathroom or mail room.

*shrug* I can't explain it, I just prefer to be barefoot. There are photos of me barefoot in the snow, not caring.

And I'm far, far, far from a "hillbilly".  I just hate wearing shoes.


Wait...it's illegal to drive without shoes on? Hrm. How about rollerblades? Do those count?
 
2014-05-17 10:22:18 AM  

gaspode: Nothing I said is not true. Sure it might be politically useful to lie, and most politicians do so.. but one side lies a bit and does good for poor people, the other lies a lot and does bad for poor people. telling bigger and more dishonest lies to trick people into voting for you and shiatting on people is NOT 'decency' it is gross hypocrisy.

There is no evident solution in the absence of an effective press.


Bullshiat.  You could start by not showing open contempt for Southern and rural Americans.  That will go a hell of a lot farther than you apparently think it's worth.  Funnily enough, people who are on the fence split on issues between the two parties are usually going to vote for the party coveting their vote over the party saying "If you had two braincells to rub together to think for your own good, you'd vote for us,"  And people wonder why rural parts of country have taken on an "Us vs Them" mindset as of late.

And before you start, I know the Democrats have tried to help poor people, but they sure as shiat don't look like they want to be helping rural USA.  If you try to set up a charitable organization, but tell everyone who comes in to get help "I hate you, but can't you see I'm here anyways to help", you're not going to get very many people willing to accept your help
 
2014-05-17 10:25:43 AM  

gaspode: Nothing I said is not true. Sure it might be politically useful to lie, and most politicians do so.. but one side lies a bit and does good for poor people, the other lies a lot and does bad for poor people. telling bigger and more dishonest lies to trick people into voting for you and shiatting on people is NOT 'decency' it is gross hypocrisy.

There is no evident solution in the absence of an effective press.


You ascribe hatred where there is none because you are not intelligent enough to parse the actual stance of your opponent. That stance does not include a disdain of the working class or of Southerners. But you have explicated that disrespect from your own "side." You are a partisan blinded by your tribalism.

/Not an R
 
2014-05-17 11:11:42 AM  

serpent_sky: LazyMedia: /Person of Appalachian origin, but I farking HATE going shoeless.

Meh, I grew up in NYC and only wear shoes when I absolutely *have* to.  I hate them.  I have never worn them when on stage. I can't type with them on. I take them off if I'm the passenger in a car. I take them off before I take off my coat in winter.  The only time you will ever see shoes on my feet is if I am driving (laws and all) or in a store/restaurant.  At work, some biatchy woman  complained about me not having shoes on in the hallway so I bought intentionally noisy flip flops and flopped them hard past where she worked. It was such a pain to even remember to put them on to go to the bathroom or mail room.

*shrug* I can't explain it, I just prefer to be barefoot. There are photos of me barefoot in the snow, not caring.

And I'm far, far, far from a "hillbilly".  I just hate wearing shoes.


If we were comic book characters, you would be my arch foe. The first thing I do when I get up is put on a pair of sport sandals, and I put on shoes and socks as soon as I get out of the bath. Don't take them off until I go to bed. The only thing I hate worse than being barefoot is flipflops. My idea of comfortable footwear is work boots.

/Feet get cold, and are impossible to warm up.
 
2014-05-17 12:51:28 PM  
I used to play with a bass player who thought anyone with a southern accent was stupid.

He was from Iowa.

/proud redneck here
//NOT hillbilly
///wear boots most of the time here in the desert
 
2014-05-17 02:24:39 PM  

Deucetoo: I grew up in LA. (Lower Alabama. The Redneck Riviera. Panama City, FL). Just about everyone I went to school with had, and still has a southern accent. I always tried to speak without one. It worked out well for me. I joined the army as a public affairs specialist. I have been doing broadcast journalism (radio and TV) in the army for the last 12 years. When we did our AIT (Advanced Individual Training - where you go to learn your job after Basic Training), I was fortunate to have no problem with the initial phase (BWAS - Basic Writing and Announcing Skills). Some of my compatriots, however, were struggling with their accents. The instructors told us that people with southern accents are seen as less intelligent than those without. Whether or not it is true, perception is still reality.

/CSB
//Slashies


Another DINFOS-Trained Killer! I went through both print and broadcast schools (back in the 80s, before they were merged) and the broadcast course was brutal: 80% attrition rate. I still remember the old guy who'd slam a hockey stick across your cubicle while you were reading scripts into a tape recorder. At least it helped me get rid of a thick Mississippi accent. That hick perception is a reality, and if you're not delivering news in a generic American accent, viewers will spend more time wondering where you're from than they will listening to what you're saying.
 
2014-05-17 03:47:39 PM  
Call me old fashioned (or something a lot nastier!), but I'd take drinking beer with a bunch of Hillbilly's over a bunch of gay dudes, ANY day of the year.
 
2014-05-17 06:46:13 PM  

serpent_sky: LazyMedia: /Person of Appalachian origin, but I farking HATE going shoeless.

Meh, I grew up in NYC and only wear shoes when I absolutely *have* to.  I hate them.  I have never worn them when on stage. I can't type with them on


You're supposed to use your hands.
 
2014-05-17 07:42:55 PM  

rynthetyn: Going barefoot to class means you're a hillbilly? Where I went to college it meant you were a free spirit unconstrained by societal expectations. Or in other words, we were all pretentious hipsters.


Where I went to college, it meant you were an idiot. Because we were in the middle of the crappiest neighborhood in a pretty depressing city. Although, come to think of it, there did seem to be a lot of hipsters on campus...
 
2014-05-17 09:44:39 PM  

Wangiss: That stance does not include a disdain of the working class


Oh yes it really really does. the Working class in the republican view as expressed through their actions in legislature dont even deserve healthcare, decent living standard, decent wages, workplace protections, basically anything at all. In what way does that not equal disdain?
 
2014-05-17 11:33:40 PM  

gaspode: Wangiss: That stance does not include a disdain of the working class

Oh yes it really really does. the Working class in the republican view as expressed through their actions in legislature dont even deserve healthcare, decent living standard, decent wages, workplace protections, basically anything at all. In what way does that not equal disdain?


Because if you are working, you get all that from your work.

Why is work so frowned upon by libs? What is wrong with earning stuff? If everything is free, why would anyone want to work harder, or at all?
 
2014-05-18 02:40:25 AM  

Thunderpipes: gaspode: Wangiss: That stance does not include a disdain of the working class

Oh yes it really really does. the Working class in the republican view as expressed through their actions in legislature dont even deserve healthcare, decent living standard, decent wages, workplace protections, basically anything at all. In what way does that not equal disdain?

Because if you are working, you get all that from your work.

Why is work so frowned upon by libs? What is wrong with earning stuff? If everything is free, why would anyone want to work harder, or at all?


What the fark are you talking about? what do actual working class people get from that list, if employed at low wage jobs? middle class people get them from their jobs it is true, and some union job working class people get them, but the republicans fight tooth and nail to remove them all.
 
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