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2014-05-16 04:18:37 PM
That was just the kind of stupid I've come to expect from Gawker. Thanks for not letting me down. Oh, and I want that 60 seconds of my life back.
 
2014-05-16 04:22:30 PM
Advanced theoretical muddin
 
2014-05-16 04:29:23 PM
Mah dogs kin breathe!  I kin go ta school!  I can BE somebody!
 
2014-05-16 04:32:00 PM
While the article is stupid, I will say that I did face a certain amount of academic and professional prejudice because of my Southern accent.  People heard me speak with a Savannah drawl, and immediately assumed I was stupid, racist and incapable of doing the job.  For the first several years of my career I had to overcome that.  Luckily, in Canada it's a novelty not a drawback.
 
2014-05-16 04:43:10 PM

Benevolent Misanthrope: While the article is stupid, I will say that I did face a certain amount of academic and professional prejudice because of my Southern accent.  People heard me speak with a Savannah drawl, and immediately assumed I was stupid, racist and incapable of doing the job.  For the first several years of my career I had to overcome that.  Luckily, in Canada it's a novelty not a drawback.


I think it was Jeff Foxworthy who said that nobody wants to hear their brain surgeon say with a southern accent, "Now, what we gon' do is..."
 
2014-05-16 04:43:38 PM
DNRTFA. Is this gonna be another creationism thread?
 
2014-05-16 04:49:33 PM

edmo: DNRTFA. Is this gonna be another creationism thread?


No. That thread was moved to the sports tab. And next time you come in here take your shoes off.
 
2014-05-16 05:13:50 PM

img.fark.net

 
2014-05-16 05:16:23 PM
Please. They prefer to be called "people of the soil."

Or "undocumented distillers," if they have gumption.
 
2014-05-16 05:55:01 PM
Man, around here we just call people that go to class barefoot "Lazy", not toothless hillbillies.
 
2014-05-16 06:01:09 PM

Snarfangel: Please. They prefer to be called "people of the soil."

Or "undocumented distillers," if they have gumption.


The salt of the earth, the common clay of the west... You know, morons.
 
2014-05-16 06:04:06 PM
So, Dr. Jennifer Lawrence?
 
2014-05-16 06:05:21 PM

Benevolent Misanthrope: While the article is stupid, I will say that I did face a certain amount of academic and professional prejudice because of my Southern accent.  People heard me speak with a Savannah drawl, and immediately assumed I was stupid, racist and incapable of doing the job.  For the first several years of my career I had to overcome that.  Luckily, in Canada it's a novelty not a drawback.


I grew up in northern Kentucky and southern Ohio and I learned how to get rid of my accent real fast.  I didn't even realize I had one until I went to college.  I'd normally sound like David Letterman, just a standard midwestern accent, but on certain words people would call me on it.  Like I'd be in the middle of a sentence, hit the word "roof" or "fire" and someone would ask "WHAT did you just say?" like I had just shiat all over my desk.  I still say Louisville like I've got a mouth full of molasses.
 
2014-05-16 06:17:18 PM
"Set a spell"...
 
2014-05-16 06:18:01 PM
Barefoot? Are they sure they're not hippies?
 
2014-05-16 06:18:05 PM
"do not feel the same need to be sensitive to those from poor, largely white, rural communities in Appalachia."

Please, fer fark's sake, don't let this sensitivity culture shiat get anywhere near my people. Just don't be an asshole and I don't care what you say.

I can't imagine being black or Jewish and having to listen to this shiat.
 
2014-05-16 06:18:24 PM

meat0918: Man, around here we just call people that go to class barefoot "Lazy", not toothless hillbillies.


When I was in school they were called "hippies."
 
2014-05-16 06:18:50 PM
Gay hillbilly so I'm really gettin' a kick...
 
2014-05-16 06:19:56 PM
Guy pictured in TFA is a HIPSTER, not a hillbilly.
 
2014-05-16 06:20:50 PM
Two rednecks decided that they weren't going anywhere in life and thought they should go to college to get ahead.

The first went in to see the counselor, who told him to take math, history, and logic. "What's logic?" the first redneck asked.

The professor answered, "Let me give you an example. Do you own a weed eater?"

"I sure do."

"Then I can assume, using logic, that you have a yard," replied the professor.

"That's real good!" said the redneck. The professor continued, "Logic will also tell me that since you have a yard, you also own a house."

Impressed, the redneck said, "Amazing!"

"And since you own a house, logic dictates that you have a wife."

"That's Betty Mae! This is incredible!" The redneck was catching on.

"Finally, since you have a wife, logically I can assume that you are heterosexual," said the professor.

"You're absolutely right! Why that's the most fascinatin' thing I ever heard! I cain't wait to take that logic class!"

The redneck, proud of the new world opening up to him, walked back into the hallway where his friend was still waiting.

"So what classes are ya takin' ?" asked the friend.

"Math, history, and logic!" replied the first redneck.

"What in tarnation is logic?" asked his friend.

"Let me give you an example. Do ya own a weed eater?" asked the first redneck.

"No," his friend replied.

"You're queer, ain't ya?"
 
2014-05-16 06:21:38 PM
Well, bless that professors little heart.
 
2014-05-16 06:23:06 PM

Lsherm: Benevolent Misanthrope: While the article is stupid, I will say that I did face a certain amount of academic and professional prejudice because of my Southern accent.  People heard me speak with a Savannah drawl, and immediately assumed I was stupid, racist and incapable of doing the job.  For the first several years of my career I had to overcome that.  Luckily, in Canada it's a novelty not a drawback.

I grew up in northern Kentucky and southern Ohio and I learned how to get rid of my accent real fast.  I didn't even realize I had one until I went to college.  I'd normally sound like David Letterman, just a standard midwestern accent, but on certain words people would call me on it.  Like I'd be in the middle of a sentence, hit the word "roof" or "fire" and someone would ask "WHAT did you just say?" like I had just shiat all over my desk.  I still say Louisville like I've got a mouth full of molasses.


On the other hand, I used to have a plumber working with me who could drop his Texas accent with a little effort. He found that when he did, his sales numbers went down. People, especially in Carmel or Pebble Beach, seemed to really trust a Texan when it comes to handling all that blue collar stuff.
 
2014-05-16 06:26:39 PM
img.fark.net

you can call me edumacated!
 
2014-05-16 06:27:23 PM

buckeyebrain: Two rednecks decided that they weren't going anywhere in life and thought they should go to college to get ahead.

The first went in to see the counselor, who told him to take math, history, and logic. "What's logic?" the first redneck asked.

The professor answered, "Let me give you an example. Do you own a weed eater?"

"I sure do."

"Then I can assume, using logic, that you have a yard," replied the professor.

"That's real good!" said the redneck. The professor continued, "Logic will also tell me that since you have a yard, you also own a house."

Impressed, the redneck said, "Amazing!"

"And since you own a house, logic dictates that you have a wife."

"That's Betty Mae! This is incredible!" The redneck was catching on.

"Finally, since you have a wife, logically I can assume that you are heterosexual," said the professor.

"You're absolutely right! Why that's the most fascinatin' thing I ever heard! I cain't wait to take that logic class!"

The redneck, proud of the new world opening up to him, walked back into the hallway where his friend was still waiting.

"So what classes are ya takin' ?" asked the friend.

"Math, history, and logic!" replied the first redneck.

"What in tarnation is logic?" asked his friend.

"Let me give you an example. Do ya own a weed eater?" asked the first redneck.

"No," his friend replied.

"You're queer, ain't ya?"


Two hillbillies decide they want to improve their lot so they decide to enroll at the local community college. They go to the administrative offices and find out that there's an entrance exam they have to take, but they are lucky and can take it that afternoon.

They go in, sit down, and get to work on the tests.

"Hey, Billy Joe, this is tough! How do you spell 'farm'?" Jimmy Wayne asks.

 "You idjit," Jimmy Wayne says, "It's e-i-e-i-o!"
 
2014-05-16 06:29:01 PM

Lsherm: Benevolent Misanthrope: While the article is stupid, I will say that I did face a certain amount of academic and professional prejudice because of my Southern accent.  People heard me speak with a Savannah drawl, and immediately assumed I was stupid, racist and incapable of doing the job.  For the first several years of my career I had to overcome that.  Luckily, in Canada it's a novelty not a drawback.

I grew up in northern Kentucky and southern Ohio and I learned how to get rid of my accent real fast.  I didn't even realize I had one until I went to college.  I'd normally sound like David Letterman, just a standard midwestern accent, but on certain words people would call me on it.  Like I'd be in the middle of a sentence, hit the word "roof" or "fire" and someone would ask "WHAT did you just say?" like I had just shiat all over my desk.  I still say Louisville like I've got a mouth full of molasses.


My kid brother went the opposite route.. He went from a Boston accent to fluent Bumpkin by the end of his first semester in South Carolina.
 
2014-05-16 06:32:05 PM
"Appalachian studies"

Well that right there is your problem.
 
2014-05-16 06:32:51 PM
I don't know if I want to live in a world with rednecks getting educated. The mixture of those people with normal educated people...it's...just...unnatural, and against what God intended.
 
2014-05-16 06:32:58 PM

Benevolent Misanthrope: While the article is stupid, I will say that I did face a certain amount of academic and professional prejudice because of my Southern accent.  People heard me speak with a Savannah drawl, and immediately assumed I was stupid, racist and incapable of doing the job.  For the first several years of my career I had to overcome that.  Luckily, in Canada it's a novelty not a drawback.


One of my favorite college econ professors had just about the thickest southern accent I've ever heard. Hearing him say Laspeyres (Lah-Pear) was once the highlight of my week. But I won't lie, I probably started off that quarter a bit biased, thinking "this hick is going to be teaching me?" somewhere in the back of my head.
 
2014-05-16 06:33:20 PM

dolphkhan: Lsherm: Benevolent Misanthrope: While the article is stupid, I will say that I did face a certain amount of academic and professional prejudice because of my Southern accent.  People heard me speak with a Savannah drawl, and immediately assumed I was stupid, racist and incapable of doing the job.  For the first several years of my career I had to overcome that.  Luckily, in Canada it's a novelty not a drawback.

I grew up in northern Kentucky and southern Ohio and I learned how to get rid of my accent real fast.  I didn't even realize I had one until I went to college.  I'd normally sound like David Letterman, just a standard midwestern accent, but on certain words people would call me on it.  Like I'd be in the middle of a sentence, hit the word "roof" or "fire" and someone would ask "WHAT did you just say?" like I had just shiat all over my desk.  I still say Louisville like I've got a mouth full of molasses.

My kid brother went the opposite route.. He went from a Boston accent to fluent Bumpkin by the end of his first semester in South Carolina.


Ya'll git in da cah?
 
2014-05-16 06:34:15 PM

Benevolent Misanthrope: While the article is stupid, I will say that I did face a certain amount of academic and professional prejudice because of my Southern accent.  People heard me speak with a Savannah drawl, and immediately assumed I was stupid, racist and incapable of doing the job.  For the first several years of my career I had to overcome that.  Luckily, in Canada it's a novelty not a drawback.


The ex has a pronounced Mizzourah accent, and is an extremely bright and capable woman. So, yeah. That happens.
 
2014-05-16 06:37:03 PM

soseussme: buckeyebrain: Two rednecks decided that they weren't going anywhere in life and thought they should go to college to get ahead.

The first went in to see the counselor, who told him to take math, history, and logic. "What's logic?" the first redneck asked.

The professor answered, "Let me give you an example. Do you own a weed eater?"

"I sure do."

"Then I can assume, using logic, that you have a yard," replied the professor.

"That's real good!" said the redneck. The professor continued, "Logic will also tell me that since you have a yard, you also own a house."

Impressed, the redneck said, "Amazing!"

"And since you own a house, logic dictates that you have a wife."

"That's Betty Mae! This is incredible!" The redneck was catching on.

"Finally, since you have a wife, logically I can assume that you are heterosexual," said the professor.

"You're absolutely right! Why that's the most fascinatin' thing I ever heard! I cain't wait to take that logic class!"

The redneck, proud of the new world opening up to him, walked back into the hallway where his friend was still waiting.

"So what classes are ya takin' ?" asked the friend.

"Math, history, and logic!" replied the first redneck.

"What in tarnation is logic?" asked his friend.

"Let me give you an example. Do ya own a weed eater?" asked the first redneck.

"No," his friend replied.

"You're queer, ain't ya?"

Two hillbillies decide they want to improve their lot so they decide to enroll at the local community college. They go to the administrative offices and find out that there's an entrance exam they have to take, but they are lucky and can take it that afternoon.

They go in, sit down, and get to work on the tests.

"Hey, Billy Joe, this is tough! How do you spell 'farm'?" Jimmy Wayne asks.

 "You idjit," Jimmy Wayne says, "It's e-i-e-i-o!"


Two hillbilly girls go into the big city to see the sights.  They happen upon a photography studio and decide to get their picture made.
As they pose, the photographer looks into the camera and starts making adjustments.

The first girl asked "What's he doin'?"
The second answered, "Oh, he's gonna focus".
The first replied, "Both of us?"
 
2014-05-16 06:39:58 PM
i.imgur.com
 
2014-05-16 06:40:29 PM
On the faculty discussion board, a staff member posted a complaint about a student walking around barefoot in a building.
Sounds like every white female and black chick from a southern state I ever knew
 
2014-05-16 06:42:46 PM

MFAWG: Benevolent Misanthrope: While the article is stupid, I will say that I did face a certain amount of academic and professional prejudice because of my Southern accent.  People heard me speak with a Savannah drawl, and immediately assumed I was stupid, racist and incapable of doing the job.  For the first several years of my career I had to overcome that.  Luckily, in Canada it's a novelty not a drawback.

The ex has a pronounced Mizzourah accent, and is an extremely bright and capable woman. So, yeah. That happens.


Of course it happens, hell it's happening in this thread.
 
2014-05-16 06:47:06 PM
Back when I wore Birkenstocks the bottoms of my feet would sometimes get hot and I'd take the sandals them off and walk around barefoot on the tile floor to cool them off, say, to get a printout on the printer (I are a college porfesser). So I'd cut the kid some slack.
 
2014-05-16 06:47:09 PM
Grew up in central Kentucky with a pretty pronounced twang. I now work in academia, having lost my accent (intentionally). I can't tell you how many times I've heard "Wow, you're from Kentucky? You don't sound like it," said as a compliment.

Prejudice against Southerners is a thing, and trust me, I know the stereotype exists for reasons. But it has real consequences for those of us who happen to have grown up Southern and blue collar but have aspirations outside that mold. Last semester my labmate turned down a student looking for research credit in our lab because "his (Appalachian) accent was too thick." That was really her reason.

People, an accent is an accent, not an IQ proxy.

/I acquired one more lab monkey last semester than I had planned.
 
2014-05-16 06:48:12 PM
I should also say that my grandmother was a tough old Polish woman who used to shovel the sidewalk in sandals.
 
2014-05-16 06:50:23 PM

Campanula: Grew up in central Kentucky with a pretty pronounced twang. I now work in academia, having lost my accent (intentionally). I can't tell you how many times I've heard "Wow, you're from Kentucky? You don't sound like it," said as a compliment.

Prejudice against Southerners is a thing, and trust me, I know the stereotype exists for reasons. But it has real consequences for those of us who happen to have grown up Southern and blue collar but have aspirations outside that mold. Last semester my labmate turned down a student looking for research credit in our lab because "his (Appalachian) accent was too thick." That was really her reason.

People, an accent is an accent, not an IQ proxy.

/I acquired one more lab monkey last semester than I had planned.


They always make fun of the way I talk, I keep telling them I said your gonna be
real surprised when you get into the habit in St. Petersburg and say,
"Y'all get into the truck, we goin up to the big house."

- Jeff Foxworthy
 
2014-05-16 06:52:27 PM
I prefer the term "Appalachian-American".

/just sayin'
/DNRTFA
 
2014-05-16 06:53:21 PM

soseussme: "You idjit," Jimmy Wayne says, "It's e-i-e-i-o!"


More like "ee-ah-ee-ah-au"
 
2014-05-16 06:54:04 PM

Diogenes:


Excuse me, that is offensive. I'll have you know it is THE University of Texas. I be proudly gradmumated from there.
 
2014-05-16 07:00:48 PM
Discrimination Against Hillbillies Is Rampant in Higher Education

This just in: water, it's wet.
 
2014-05-16 07:03:49 PM
The local community college has a professor that never wears shoes. He teaches aboriginal living skills.

You've probably heard of him:

www.theonlinerocket.com
 
2014-05-16 07:04:00 PM
I grew up in Mass and went to college in VA. I went to many classes barefoot. I started wearing flip flops about halfway through my sophomore year because the Dining Hall folks finally noticed. I wasn't a hippie, but I did wear baggy jeans a lot, so most people didn't notice. I never had much love for shoes and often shoveled snow barefoot growing up.
Now that I'm sort of grown up I wear boots when I'm doing construction work, but most of the time I wear boat shoes or flip flops. Hell, I wore boat shoes to the ski area days a week this winter.
And yeah, the southern bias is real. But it goes both ways. Talking to the mechanic or another laborer while I'm laying concrete, I use a southern accent peppered with some Spanish slang. Speaking with business clients for commercial work, I cut the accent out or make it barely noticeable. For the rednecks who are done fixin to get hitched, I go as drawly as I can.
 
2014-05-16 07:14:07 PM

Campanula: Grew up in central Kentucky with a pretty pronounced twang. I now work in academia, having lost my accent (intentionally). I can't tell you how many times I've heard "Wow, you're from Kentucky? You don't sound like it," said as a compliment.

Prejudice against Southerners is a thing, and trust me, I know the stereotype exists for reasons. But it has real consequences for those of us who happen to have grown up Southern and blue collar but have aspirations outside that mold. Last semester my labmate turned down a student looking for research credit in our lab because "his (Appalachian) accent was too thick." That was really her reason.

People, an accent is an accent, not an IQ proxy.

/I acquired one more lab monkey last semester than I had planned.


Cinci has a human rights ordinance, which protects people
from discrimination based on race, gender, age, color,
religion, disability status, marital status, or
ethnic, national, or Appalachian regional origin.
 
2014-05-16 07:16:15 PM
Just say you are barefoot hippie, problem solved!
 
2014-05-16 07:21:39 PM

Campanula: Prejudice against Southerners is a thing, ...
People, an accent is an accent, not an IQ proxy.


Yet white people who think they are unfairly judged by their accent are often the first to deride how blacks talk and bring up Ebonics.
 
2014-05-16 07:23:55 PM
Relax, rednecks.

2.bp.blogspot.com
 
2014-05-16 07:24:47 PM

wellreadneck: Campanula: Grew up in central Kentucky with a pretty pronounced twang. I now work in academia, having lost my accent (intentionally). I can't tell you how many times I've heard "Wow, you're from Kentucky? You don't sound like it," said as a compliment.

Prejudice against Southerners is a thing, and trust me, I know the stereotype exists for reasons. But it has real consequences for those of us who happen to have grown up Southern and blue collar but have aspirations outside that mold. Last semester my labmate turned down a student looking for research credit in our lab because "his (Appalachian) accent was too thick." That was really her reason.

People, an accent is an accent, not an IQ proxy.

/I acquired one more lab monkey last semester than I had planned.

Cinci has a human rights ordinance, which protects people
from discrimination based on race, gender, age, color,
religion, disability status, marital status, or
ethnic, national, or Appalachian regional origin.


That's quite cool! I'm wondering how common this in among Appalachian states. I know some Kentucky schools that have diversity programs that include students from Appalachia, but I don't know about cities.
 
2014-05-16 07:29:13 PM

HairBolus: Campanula: Prejudice against Southerners is a thing, ...
People, an accent is an accent, not an IQ proxy.

Yet white people who think they are unfairly judged by their accent are often the first to deride how blacks talk and bring up Ebonics.


Which somehow makes it acceptable when the shoe is on the other foot (or not on the other foot, as the case may be here)?

Like I said, I understand that there are plenty of Southerners who fulfill the stereotype. I am not one of them; as someone who is sensitive regarding her own accent, I'm not prone to deriding others for theirs. So if you'd kindly redirect that broad brush elsewhere, I'd be much obliged.
 
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