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(Think Progress)   Fetch your fainting couch, as this may be a shock to you, but Kansas's massive tax cut to the state's wealthiest is destroying its economy   (thinkprogress.org ) divider line
    More: Obvious, Kansas, tax cuts, child poverty, Sam Brownback, Center on Budget  
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2014-05-16 04:37:29 PM  
9 votes:
one time when my sister was a baby she happened to roll backward while wearing full diaper which sprayed liquid kinderscheisse up her back

whenever i see sam brownback, i think of that

it works literally and metaphorically
2014-05-16 04:19:00 PM  
8 votes:
28.media.tumblr.com
2014-05-16 02:56:43 PM  
7 votes:
speaktopower.org
2014-05-16 05:15:17 PM  
6 votes:
Kansas is only having a fiscal crisis to distract us from Benghazi.
2014-05-16 04:33:49 PM  
5 votes:
Stupid libtards are stupid. Everybody knows that reducing income is the only way to increase income, and that by increasing income you're sure to reduce income. Study it out.
2014-05-16 04:52:38 PM  
4 votes:
THE FREE MARKET HAS SPOKEN!

ALL PRAISE SAINT AYN! FOR SHE LIVETH AT THE RIGHT HAND OF SAINT RONNIE FOREVER AND EVER!

PRAISE GALT!
2014-05-16 04:18:41 PM  
4 votes:
i.chzbgr.com
2014-05-16 06:05:07 PM  
3 votes:

Noam Chimpsky: How cute. Democratics don't even know what economies are. "Err, the gubbermint get monies?"


No. I'm sorry but this just isn't acceptable trolling. You put zero effort into it. You quoted no misleading 'unskewed' data. Where's the attack on the POTUS? Where's the insinuation of Zion plotting? Don't you take any pride in puking garbage into a thread anymore?!

for shame Noam, for shame
2014-05-16 05:38:26 PM  
3 votes:
The answer is staring us in the face...cut taxes on the rich even more.
2014-05-16 05:00:07 PM  
3 votes:

Bonanza Jellybean: one time when my sister was a baby she happened to roll backward while wearing full diaper which sprayed liquid kinderscheisse up her back


Amazing - that's what I was going to call my KMFDM cover band.
2014-05-16 04:30:22 PM  
3 votes:

dr_blasto: whidbey: Seriously, the rich, specifically the elderly rich, who already have a shiatload of senior citizen perks, need to suck it up and stop fighting tax increases.

There is no arguing with this position. Thanks.

MFAWG: Nuh-uh.

ohsnap.jpg


TO THE IMPEACH MOBILE
2014-05-16 04:22:47 PM  
3 votes:
Kansas was pretty nice when I lived there.  But I moved away 25 years ago.  Coincidence, I think not.
2014-05-17 01:55:14 AM  
2 votes:

bobothemagnificent: Since it's ThinkProgress, I'm wondering where the other half of the story is.  Because there's no bias like blatant liberal bias.  And ThinkProgress.org is pretty much nothing but pure propaganda.  It would make Goebbels proud.  You'll forgive me if I take the entire story with a rather large grain of salt.


You would you dumbf*ck.
2014-05-16 06:55:39 PM  
2 votes:
Haha, no.  That's simply not possible.  Kansas is an extremely red state.  The Republicans that control Kansas would never allow it to fail financially.  The article must have been written about the liberal wasteland of California, and someone pulled a fast one and changed it to Kansas.  That's the only explanation.

Everyone knows the GoP has the best plan for helping states reach economic goals.  You cut taxes for the wealthy, cut spending on entitlements, and ask schools to tighten their belts.  It's so simple.

If every state in the Union followed these guidelines the US would be an economic powerhouse by 2020.  I guarantee.
2014-05-16 06:07:52 PM  
2 votes:

Cletus C.: Aquapope: Cletus C.:

I suppose you realize there is a thing called blah blah unrelated blah

Doesn't matter.  You tried to defend Brownbacks bad policies using only 1 economic measure between Kansas, a landlocked agricultural state with Illinois, a manufacturing port state.  Apples and monkeys, you can't compare them.

Can to. Especially since this entire argument is set up by comparing the rate of economic growth in Kansas to the entire farking United States.


Haha you just got caught whiteknighting a total Teabag nutball like Brownback. How surprising that now you're trying to wriggle out of that one.
2014-05-16 05:41:30 PM  
2 votes:

bobothemagnificent: Because there's no bias like blatant liberal bias.


blogs.suntimes.com
2014-05-16 05:18:07 PM  
2 votes:

Dog Welder: This is clearly Obama's fault.


He does meet or exceed the criteria for the N-word, according to that sheriff.
2014-05-16 04:58:41 PM  
2 votes:
Eliminate income taxes.
Eliminate estate taxes.
Eliminate corporate taxes.
Eliminate school funding.
Eliminate minimum wage.
Eliminate food stamps.

Create modern feudal system.  Live like kings.  Back to work peasants!
2014-05-16 04:49:28 PM  
2 votes:

ScreamingHangover: What do you expect from a state full of idiot who would vote this inept moron into office?


4/10. though the misspelling of "idiots" was a nice touch.

also, sibelius hasn't been governor for 5 years.
2014-05-16 04:27:50 PM  
2 votes:

Benevolent Misanthrope: Yeah - shocker.  Republican economics don't work.  Why the Fark do people vote for them?


img.myconfinedspace.com
2014-05-16 04:26:15 PM  
2 votes:

theknuckler_33: Conservatives are pure evil.


Only the representatives. The rest are morans.
2014-05-16 04:22:12 PM  
2 votes:

Dog Welder: This is clearly Obama's fault.


The article didn't claim otherwise.
2014-05-16 04:21:35 PM  
2 votes:
FTFA: Brownback's official response to the state's poverty problem was a brief report that advocated fighting poverty by encouraging traditional family structures...

This sounds pretty effective. After all, traditional families never have issues with poverty.
2014-05-16 04:01:39 PM  
2 votes:
But... But... Laffer Curve!
2014-05-16 03:46:39 PM  
2 votes:
I must have read the article too fast, I could not find the part about where this is poor people's fault.  Or Obama's.
2014-05-16 03:20:17 PM  
2 votes:
I forget. This is fainting, right?


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Elections have consequences, don't they, Kansas?
2014-05-17 04:06:43 AM  
1 vote:

bobothemagnificent: Because there's no bias like blatant liberal bias.


Reality has a blatant liberal bias.
2014-05-17 03:15:11 AM  
1 vote:

ongbok: BSABSVR: We tried planning shiat, but then we were accused of furthering Agenda 21. So now if we want a bike path we have to pretend that we just accidentally made it happen. shiat! There's 8 feet of unused space along the boundary of this park and leading to the street? Well, I suppose we ought to just barf some asphalt there for no reason at all.

What the hell did Agenda 21 have to do with urban planning? These people always try to claim that what ever they don't want approved is an attempt to push Agenda 21.


The real Agenda 21 was basically a statement saying "hey, the world can't only consist of factories and sprawl, just FYI."

the GOP has taken that to mean any type of urban planning at all.  Bike paths,  energy efficient condos, zoning?  All farking sinister.

Imagine a world run by GaryPDX.
2014-05-16 10:30:06 PM  
1 vote:

phyrkrakr: madgonad: All of the bordering states are in full recovery. Missouri, Nebraska, Colorado, and Oklahoma. The problem is that the Kansas government is cutting back on services (middle class jobs) to balance out the whopping tax cut. Now almost all of that tax cut is going to the top 5% - who aren't spending it on local products and services. The business owners are investing it and farmers are buying flashy new farm equipment that isn't made in Kansas. So the net result is fewer services and a shrinking middle class. In addition, nobody wants to move to a location where services (good schools) are deteriorating. So yes, Republican economics are killing the state. The same thing is happening nationally, but it isn't so blatantly obvious.

Missouri just passed their "Me too!" tax plan to do the same shiat as Kansas. They even managed to override the (Dem) governor's veto to get it done. Now, it doesn't actually take effect until 2017, but here's the plan: cut the top bracket from 6% to 5.5%, and allows business owners to take a 25% deduction on all business income reported on their individual return. 52% of the savings go to the top 7% of taxpayers, and the average family making $44K a year will save a whopping $32. Source


That drives me nuts.  We now have hard, empirical evidence that Brownback's policies are insane and that they are driving Kansas off the cliff, but the Missouri GOP still insists on following them.  It's like watching a derpy version of Thelma and Louise.
2014-05-16 10:19:27 PM  
1 vote:

whidbey: jigger: whidbey: jigger: Um. It's Kansas. I don't think there's anything they could do to attract people and businesses to move there.

They do plenty already, actually.

And it's not working. Because it's Kansas. Who the fark in their right mind would want to live there, no matter what the government is like?

Clean air, quiet, awesome sunsets, intense weather patterns, low cost of living.

Yeah only an idiot would move there.


When I moved here we had Sebelius and decent weather. Now it's Brownbackistan and drought.

Damn you, Obama!

\it really is his fault for taking Sebelius away
2014-05-16 10:06:15 PM  
1 vote:

Aquapope: Cletus C.:

I suppose you realize there is a thing called blah blah unrelated blah

Doesn't matter.  You tried to defend Brownbacks bad policies using only 1 economic measure between Kansas, a landlocked agricultural state with Illinois, a manufacturing port state.  Apples and monkeys, you can't compare them.


For his next trick: Kansas v. Detroit.
2014-05-16 09:06:55 PM  
1 vote:
ha ha, kansas, you make nebraska look like a progressive paradise

think about that and recoil in shame
2014-05-16 07:30:47 PM  
1 vote:
They didn't reduce taxes enough for it to work.  The problem is government regulations and the Lavendar Mafia, and they need to cut taxes some more.
2014-05-16 06:59:25 PM  
1 vote:

bobothemagnificent: don't believe that man made CO2 emissions are responsible for affecting the rate of climate change.


Why have you come to this conclusion. What evidence leads you to believe that our CO2 emissions have no responsibility for the rate of climate change?

Do you believe this because you don't like a solution offered in the form of carbon taxes, that is, do you disbelieve it because you don't like a potential solution?

Do you believe this way because god gave Noah a rainbow an declared all the half-ass attempts at making humans extinct were over?

Do you believe this because of well-researched independently reviewed scientific evidence clearly shows through repeatable experiments that this is just the way it is?

Do you believe this because fark you libs?
2014-05-16 06:53:30 PM  
1 vote:

whidbey: bobothemagnificent: Since it's ThinkProgress, I'm wondering where the other half of the story is.  Because there's no bias like blatant liberal bias.  And ThinkProgress.org is pretty much nothing but pure propaganda.  It would make Goebbels proud.  You'll forgive me if I take the entire story with a rather large grain of salt.

Dude, you don't even think climate change is real. I can't imagine what it would take for you to realize that tax cuts to the rich is doing it wrong.


Incorrect.  The climate is always changing.  I don't believe that man made CO2 emissions are responsible for affecting the rate of climate change.  I will repeat my statement about what is it they aren't reporting because thinkprogress only does what is best for progressivism and liberalism.
2014-05-16 06:17:52 PM  
1 vote:
What's wealthy in Kansas, anyway? Like $12 per hour?
2014-05-16 05:55:09 PM  
1 vote:

HawgWild: That's the thing about the job creators. They actually have to, you know, do something to create jobs.


Are you being sarcastic?  Don't you know that investing in hedge funds or sending your money to a bank in the Bahamas creates lots of jobs in Kansas?
2014-05-16 05:44:27 PM  
1 vote:

whidbey: jigger: Um. It's Kansas. I don't think there's anything they could do to attract people and businesses to move there.

They do plenty already, actually.


And it's not working. Because it's Kansas. Who the fark in their right mind would want to live there, no matter what the government is like?
2014-05-16 05:39:41 PM  
1 vote:

Saiga410: And here the ACA gets passed and we have the longest recession in 70 years.  You just cannot explain that.


Isn't it obvious?  The tide goes in, tide goes out. What, you need me to spell it out for you?
2014-05-16 05:38:56 PM  
1 vote:
So what? Kansas sucks. They're trying to act like it's still the early 1900s. Let them cope with the fallout from that decision.
2014-05-16 05:29:37 PM  
1 vote:
Um. It's Kansas. I don't think there's anything they could do to attract people and businesses to move there.
2014-05-16 05:29:23 PM  
1 vote:

theknuckler_33: Conservatives are pure evil.


That is not true. They aren't pure evil. They are half evil, half dishonest, and half stupid.
2014-05-16 05:29:19 PM  
1 vote:

bobothemagnificent: Since it's ThinkProgress, I'm wondering where the other half of the story is.  Because there's no bias like blatant liberal bias.  And ThinkProgress.org is pretty much nothing but pure propaganda.  It would make Goebbels proud.  You'll forgive me if I take the entire story with a rather large grain of salt.


Dude, you don't even think climate change is real. I can't imagine what it would take for you to realize that tax cuts to the rich is doing it wrong.
2014-05-16 05:25:17 PM  
1 vote:

UncomfortableSilence: Percentages and maths, how do they work?


He may have been facetious, but he's kind of right.

If your unemployment rate is 10% and it falls to 9%, it just went down by 10% -- ((9-10)/10))*100

If your unemployment rate is 5% and it falls to 4.5%, it also just went down by 10% -- ((4.5-5)/5))*100

You can't compare absolute percentage points when you're starting from two different points.

So for Kansas, ((4.8-5.5)/5.5)*100 = 12.7% decrease
And for Illinois, ((7.9-9.2)/9.2)*100 = 14.1% decrease

So Illinois actually won by 1.4%!

Or is it (1.4/14.1)*100 = 9.9%?
Or is it (1.4/12.7)*100 = 11.02%?

Who knows!  I don't.
2014-05-16 05:24:36 PM  
1 vote:
Brownback's official response to the state's poverty problem was a brief report that advocated fighting poverty by encouraging traditional family structures through eight-hour "pre-marital education" classes for couples wishing to wed, kicking tens of thousands of residents off of food stamps so that they will work harder, and finding mentors for the state's kids.

"My shiatty policies aren't working, let's double down with more shiatty policy!"
2014-05-16 05:23:18 PM  
1 vote:
Probably because of gays, Obamacare, and Benghazi.
2014-05-16 05:10:59 PM  
1 vote:

Cletus C.: Uzzah: Dimensio: Cletus C.: Hmm

Kansas has an unemployment rate of 4.8 percent.

Illinois has an unemployment rate of 7.9 percent.

Illinois had a massive income tax increase in 2011.

Cheery-picked stats can be fun.

How have unemployment rates in each state changed over time?

/I personally do not know.

Unemployment rates, 12-month net change (Apr. 2013-Apr. 2014):

Kansas: -0.7%
Illinois: -1.3%

That makes sense, considering Illinois has a larger percentage to work with.


Lol!
2014-05-16 05:06:35 PM  
1 vote:

Notabunny: Stupid libtards are stupid. Everybody knows that reducing income is the only way to increase income, and that by increasing income you're sure to reduce income. Study it out.


Hell yeah.

Last night I only got a dollar meal burger instead of the combo so that plus saving $10 gas by not driving to work totally balanced out skipping my shift yesterday!
IP
2014-05-16 05:05:32 PM  
1 vote:
What's the matter with Kansas?
2014-05-16 04:53:41 PM  
1 vote:

Trivia Jockey: Cletus C.: Hmm

Kansas has an unemployment rate of 4.8 percent.

Illinois has an unemployment rate of 7.9 percent.

Illinois had a massive income tax increase in 2011.

Cheery-picked stats can be fun.


Kansas also doesn't have a Chicago.


No, but it has Democrats.


I know that's supposed to mean something.
2014-05-16 04:46:56 PM  
1 vote:
All of the bordering states are in full recovery. Missouri, Nebraska, Colorado, and Oklahoma. The problem is that the Kansas government is cutting back on services (middle class jobs) to balance out the whopping tax cut. Now almost all of that tax cut is going to the top 5% - who aren't spending it on local products and services. The business owners are investing it and farmers are buying flashy new farm equipment that isn't made in Kansas. So the net result is fewer services and a shrinking middle class. In addition, nobody wants to move to a location where services (good schools) are deteriorating. So yes, Republican economics are killing the state. The same thing is happening nationally, but it isn't so blatantly obvious.
2014-05-16 04:43:37 PM  
1 vote:

NeverDrunk23: And even though they were burned for the 45,328th time, they will continue to put their hand on the stove's flame.

Again and again.


GOOD! Maybe eventually they'll manage to completely kill themselves off. And stop breeding.
2014-05-16 04:32:05 PM  
1 vote:
Good! Not that evidence-based reality will penetrate their shells. Stay strong, Kansas!
2014-05-16 04:25:41 PM  
1 vote:
Tax cuts for the wealthy only benefit the wealthy. Obvious. The wealthy use religion and social issues to garner support among the poor. Obvious. The poor go to battle for them while the poor suffer. Obvious.

But hey, they are sticking it to 'the man'!
2014-05-16 04:25:38 PM  
1 vote:
Destroy is a stretch. But "Not as good as all surrounding states" is spot on. Brownback is a clownfarker.
2014-05-16 04:21:51 PM  
1 vote:

Serious Black: The sad thing is that even if Paul Davis were to somehow miraculously beat Sam Brownback this November, the state legislature is almost certainly going to be just as conservative as it is today. All of the disastrous policies they've put into place, including the ridiculous tax cut package and the requirement that Medicaid expansion receive future legislative approval, are going to stick around for many years to come.

/unless we just nuke the state dry


Again, the whole state has the population of an average metropolitan area of many cities. The entire 2.2 people could be relocated with subsidies. Kansas would then be a huge solar/wind farm.
2014-05-16 04:19:05 PM  
1 vote:
This is clearly Obama's fault.
2014-05-16 04:02:36 PM  
1 vote:
And next time around they'll vote for them again.

The common clay of the new West.
2014-05-16 03:20:16 PM  
1 vote:

Marcus Aurelius: No problem.  Just slash spending on education, infrastructure, drug treatment, head start, and anything else that might even remotely help disadvantaged citizens.


I was being sarcastic, and then I RTFA.

Jesus Christ.
2014-05-16 03:15:24 PM  
1 vote:

Benevolent Misanthrope: Yeah - shocker.  Republican economics don't work.  Why the Fark do people vote for them?


Because Jebus.
2014-05-16 03:10:57 PM  
1 vote:
Yeah - shocker.  Republican economics don't work.  Why the Fark do people vote for them?
 
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