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(Think Progress)   Fetch your fainting couch, as this may be a shock to you, but Kansas's massive tax cut to the state's wealthiest is destroying its economy   (thinkprogress.org) divider line 85
    More: Obvious, Kansas, tax cuts, child poverty, Sam Brownback, Center on Budget  
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2014-05-16 04:27:50 PM  
13 votes:

Benevolent Misanthrope: Yeah - shocker.  Republican economics don't work.  Why the Fark do people vote for them?


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2014-05-16 03:10:57 PM  
11 votes:
Yeah - shocker.  Republican economics don't work.  Why the Fark do people vote for them?
2014-05-16 04:22:13 PM  
9 votes:
Conservatives are pure evil.
2014-05-16 04:46:56 PM  
7 votes:
All of the bordering states are in full recovery. Missouri, Nebraska, Colorado, and Oklahoma. The problem is that the Kansas government is cutting back on services (middle class jobs) to balance out the whopping tax cut. Now almost all of that tax cut is going to the top 5% - who aren't spending it on local products and services. The business owners are investing it and farmers are buying flashy new farm equipment that isn't made in Kansas. So the net result is fewer services and a shrinking middle class. In addition, nobody wants to move to a location where services (good schools) are deteriorating. So yes, Republican economics are killing the state. The same thing is happening nationally, but it isn't so blatantly obvious.
2014-05-16 04:16:03 PM  
6 votes:
Seriously, the rich, specifically the elderly rich, who already have a shiatload of senior citizen perks, need to suck it up and stop fighting tax increases.

There is no arguing with this position. Thanks.
2014-05-16 05:04:57 PM  
5 votes:
If you want a tax cut to be a stimulus you have to give it to someone who will spend it. That would be common folks buying cars, new fishing rods, and TVs, not rich people who plow it all into yet another investment fund, stimulating only Wall Street.
2014-05-16 04:47:02 PM  
4 votes:

Angry Drunk Bureaucrat: Benevolent Misanthrope: Yeah - shocker.  Republican economics don't work.  Why the Fark do people vote for them?

Because Jebus stick it to the farking libs.


FIXT. Seriously, that's all these farking morans care about.
2014-05-16 04:45:33 PM  
4 votes:

Benevolent Misanthrope: Yeah - shocker.  Republican economics don't work.  Why the Fark do people vote for them?


Because Republicans are morons, evil, or both.
2014-05-16 04:37:29 PM  
4 votes:
one time when my sister was a baby she happened to roll backward while wearing full diaper which sprayed liquid kinderscheisse up her back

whenever i see sam brownback, i think of that

it works literally and metaphorically
2014-05-16 04:25:41 PM  
4 votes:
Tax cuts for the wealthy only benefit the wealthy. Obvious. The wealthy use religion and social issues to garner support among the poor. Obvious. The poor go to battle for them while the poor suffer. Obvious.

But hey, they are sticking it to 'the man'!
2014-05-16 04:06:37 PM  
4 votes:

Benevolent Misanthrope: Yeah - shocker.  Republican economics don't work.  Why the Fark do people vote for them?


three words: guns. god. gays.
2014-05-16 03:20:16 PM  
4 votes:

Marcus Aurelius: No problem.  Just slash spending on education, infrastructure, drug treatment, head start, and anything else that might even remotely help disadvantaged citizens.


I was being sarcastic, and then I RTFA.

Jesus Christ.
2014-05-16 08:53:39 PM  
3 votes:

netcentric: People with no children often have disposable income.    Maybe they should increase taxes on people with no kids.


People with kids have extra standard deductions *and* the child tax credit. Childless people already ARE paying more taxes than their children-having peers.
2014-05-16 05:41:36 PM  
3 votes:

FlashHarry: ScreamingHangover: What do you expect from a state full of idiot who would vote this inept moron into office?

4/10. though the misspelling of "idiots" was a nice touch.

also, sibelius hasn't been governor for 5 years.


I don't think that matters to these "people".

This is the same group that blames the entire economic collapse on Barney Frank. Even though Republicans held the White House, Senate and House from 2000-2006 it doesn't matter.  Republicans can do no wrong in their books. Willfully blind partisan hacks are willfully blind partisan hacks....
2014-05-16 05:10:38 PM  
3 votes:
2014-05-16 04:41:17 PM  
3 votes:
And even though they were burned for the 45,328th time, they will continue to put their hand on the stove's flame.

Again and again.
2014-05-16 04:02:36 PM  
3 votes:
And next time around they'll vote for them again.

The common clay of the new West.
2014-05-16 03:58:30 PM  
3 votes:
That's the thing about the job creators. They actually have to, you know, do something to create jobs.
2014-05-16 11:39:18 PM  
2 votes:

taurusowner: Benevolent Misanthrope: Yeah - shocker.  Republican economics don't work.  Why the Fark do people vote for them?

And yet states like Texas have arguably the strongest economies in the entire nation for those same economics.

Money goes where it is treated well. That will never ever stop being true.




The only reason Texas has a strong economy is because God put oil underneath it's land. And they don't mind cutting important bootstrappy services like wildfire prevention and regulations to prevent chemical plants from blowing up...that's what the the rest of the states are for, to help pick up the tab for Texas boondoggles.

It's as if Wisconsin goes around cutting all funding for snow removal services for highways and then demands Arizona pay for it when it snows, just to show how awesomely fiscally responsible they are.

Just once, I'd like to see Texas deal with their own mistakes of their making without asking for a handout while slapping their bootstraps in everyone's face.
2014-05-16 06:33:19 PM  
2 votes:

Cletus C.: RyogaM: Actually, that's not true at all. As you reach full employment, you end up with an exceedingly healthy economy, where people are able to buy and sell, and lose and get jobs easily, and you can easily get employment numbers below "full employment." Because of the economic health, It is much easier to go from 4% to 3% than it is to go from 9% to 8%. The problem is, getting below full employment will, according to most economic theory, results in inflation, as people are easily able to demand higher wages in their jobs, their higher wages and the increased demand allow producers to raise prices. We call this point of balance between inflation and unemployment "full employment" and the fed works by raising interests rates when that point is reached.

OTOH, getting from 9% to 8% is a right biatch. If your economy is at 9% unemployment, your economy is terribly sick, people can't find work, wages are suppressed, products can't be sold, deflation is a real possibility. At 9%, you need massive government spending to get your economy going again, massive spending that mayors and most governors do not have the ability to create. Without that spending, you can have years and years of crappy employment and there is not much you can do about it.

All things being equal, of course.

Har. I have no idea if what you said is true but it sounded good so maybe it is.


Except for that pesky fact that "full employment" doesn't mean shiat if everyone is digging ditches or working fast food. We already discussed that here.
2014-05-16 05:51:17 PM  
2 votes:

Saiga410: And here the ACA gets passed and we have the longest recession in 70 years.  You just cannot explain that.


It is sad that you make this argument. It is even more sad that almost half the nation thinks it is a valid point.
2014-05-16 05:38:56 PM  
2 votes:
So what? Kansas sucks. They're trying to act like it's still the early 1900s. Let them cope with the fallout from that decision.
2014-05-16 05:38:23 PM  
2 votes:

Saiga410: And here the ACA gets passed and we have the longest recession in 70 years.  You just cannot explain that.


Because there wasn't a President before Obama who nearly tanked the US economy under his watch.
2014-05-16 05:16:55 PM  
2 votes:

ScreamingHangover: [upload.wikimedia.org image 480x600]

What do you expect from a state full of idiot who would vote this inept moron into office?


And let her leave, and put this f'ing tool in her place?

www.ourpolitics.us

\remember, the f*ckups stated with *this* jackass
2014-05-16 05:10:56 PM  
2 votes:

madgonad: All of the bordering states are in full recovery. Missouri, Nebraska, Colorado, and Oklahoma. The problem is that the Kansas government is cutting back on services (middle class jobs) to balance out the whopping tax cut. Now almost all of that tax cut is going to the top 5% - who aren't spending it on local products and services. The business owners are investing it and farmers are buying flashy new farm equipment that isn't made in Kansas. So the net result is fewer services and a shrinking middle class. In addition, nobody wants to move to a location where services (good schools) are deteriorating. So yes, Republican economics are killing the state. The same thing is happening nationally, but it isn't so blatantly obvious.


Missouri just passed their "Me too!" tax plan to do the same shiat as Kansas. They even managed to override the (Dem) governor's veto to get it done. Now, it doesn't actually take effect until 2017, but here's the plan: cut the top bracket from 6% to 5.5%, and allows business owners to take a 25% deduction on all business income reported on their individual return. 52% of the savings go to the top 7% of taxpayers, and the average family making $44K a year will save a whopping $32. Source
2014-05-16 04:55:46 PM  
2 votes:
Voodoo economics.
2014-05-16 04:52:20 PM  
2 votes:

Cletus C.: Hmm

Kansas has an unemployment rate of 4.8 percent.

Illinois has an unemployment rate of 7.9 percent.

Illinois had a massive income tax increase in 2011.

Cheery-picked stats can be fun.



Kansas also doesn't have a Chicago.
2014-05-16 04:29:33 PM  
2 votes:

Cletus C.: Hmm

Kansas has an unemployment rate of 4.8 percent.

Illinois has an unemployment rate of 7.9 percent.

Illinois had a massive income tax increase in 2011.

Cheery-picked stats can be fun.


Well here in Kansas it's pretty across the board. All the stats are in, and they point to Republicans and a lot of crappy policies. I don't know about the Land of Lincoln.

It's cool that Rush and Faux and Friends gave you that one lame ass "stat." Too bad it's dead wrong.
2014-05-16 04:26:15 PM  
2 votes:

theknuckler_33: Conservatives are pure evil.


Only the representatives. The rest are morans.
2014-05-16 04:25:39 PM  
2 votes:
You say this like it wasn't the objective the whole time.
2014-05-16 04:25:38 PM  
2 votes:
Destroy is a stretch. But "Not as good as all surrounding states" is spot on. Brownback is a clownfarker.
2014-05-16 04:24:52 PM  
2 votes:
Gov. Sam GreenBrownback (Republiscam)

Let's just call him what he's all about.
2014-05-16 04:24:25 PM  
2 votes:
Kansas has been circling the drain for a good long while, it's about time they went down it.
2014-05-16 04:21:51 PM  
2 votes:

Serious Black: The sad thing is that even if Paul Davis were to somehow miraculously beat Sam Brownback this November, the state legislature is almost certainly going to be just as conservative as it is today. All of the disastrous policies they've put into place, including the ridiculous tax cut package and the requirement that Medicaid expansion receive future legislative approval, are going to stick around for many years to come.

/unless we just nuke the state dry


Again, the whole state has the population of an average metropolitan area of many cities. The entire 2.2 people could be relocated with subsidies. Kansas would then be a huge solar/wind farm.
2014-05-16 04:21:35 PM  
2 votes:
FTFA: Brownback's official response to the state's poverty problem was a brief report that advocated fighting poverty by encouraging traditional family structures...

This sounds pretty effective. After all, traditional families never have issues with poverty.
2014-05-16 03:15:24 PM  
2 votes:

Benevolent Misanthrope: Yeah - shocker.  Republican economics don't work.  Why the Fark do people vote for them?


Because Jebus.
2014-05-17 11:08:27 AM  
1 votes:

Shakin_Haitian: North Carolina's unemployment rate dropped like a stone when we cut unemployment benefits and taxes.

People who made a decent wage went to unemployment. Lazy bums were shoved off and are now making a sweet sweet average wage of under 8 dollars an hour. Oddly, we now have a budget shortfall and our economy is slowing. Durr... what's going on?


Not sure if you are serious. Why would a person with a decent job go on unemployment?

I'm sure you remember that the real reason why lots of people became unemployed. The US economy dived into a severe recession after Lehman Brothers went belly up. People got fired for lack of business, not because they chose to go on unemployment. People lost their jobs, their houses and their health care. Millions of them are still unemployed.

The US has stayed in this unemployment mess because every single fiscal thing that we know stimulates an economy - like increasing taxes on the very wealthy to pay for programs that increase productivity - has been blocked by the Republicans. TFA is an extreme example of how this BS fiscal policy doesn't work.
2014-05-17 04:49:07 AM  
1 votes:

theknuckler_33: netcentric: People with no children often have disposable income.    Maybe they should increase taxes on people with no kids.

People with kids have extra standard deductions *and* the child tax credit. Childless people already ARE paying more taxes than their children-having peers.


My child-less self is a-ok with that. Also,  I'm glad my taxes go to schools. I want children to be well taken care of and educated.
2014-05-17 04:06:43 AM  
1 votes:

bobothemagnificent: Because there's no bias like blatant liberal bias.


Reality has a blatant liberal bias.
2014-05-17 01:55:14 AM  
1 votes:

bobothemagnificent: Since it's ThinkProgress, I'm wondering where the other half of the story is.  Because there's no bias like blatant liberal bias.  And ThinkProgress.org is pretty much nothing but pure propaganda.  It would make Goebbels proud.  You'll forgive me if I take the entire story with a rather large grain of salt.


You would you dumbf*ck.
2014-05-17 12:47:40 AM  
1 votes:

whidbey: Clean air, quiet, awesome sunsets, intense weather patterns, low cost of living.

Yeah only an idiot would move there.


Yearly tornadoes and flooding, surrounded by bigoted, redneck asshats, run by morons intent on destroying the state's economy and education system... yes, sounds like farking paradise.
2014-05-16 10:57:57 PM  
1 votes:
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2014-05-16 10:30:06 PM  
1 votes:

phyrkrakr: madgonad: All of the bordering states are in full recovery. Missouri, Nebraska, Colorado, and Oklahoma. The problem is that the Kansas government is cutting back on services (middle class jobs) to balance out the whopping tax cut. Now almost all of that tax cut is going to the top 5% - who aren't spending it on local products and services. The business owners are investing it and farmers are buying flashy new farm equipment that isn't made in Kansas. So the net result is fewer services and a shrinking middle class. In addition, nobody wants to move to a location where services (good schools) are deteriorating. So yes, Republican economics are killing the state. The same thing is happening nationally, but it isn't so blatantly obvious.

Missouri just passed their "Me too!" tax plan to do the same shiat as Kansas. They even managed to override the (Dem) governor's veto to get it done. Now, it doesn't actually take effect until 2017, but here's the plan: cut the top bracket from 6% to 5.5%, and allows business owners to take a 25% deduction on all business income reported on their individual return. 52% of the savings go to the top 7% of taxpayers, and the average family making $44K a year will save a whopping $32. Source


That drives me nuts.  We now have hard, empirical evidence that Brownback's policies are insane and that they are driving Kansas off the cliff, but the Missouri GOP still insists on following them.  It's like watching a derpy version of Thelma and Louise.
2014-05-16 09:20:03 PM  
1 votes:
NC is implementing Kansas' tax plan almost word for word, and (surprise!) it is having the same effect on the state government. Tax revenues this fiscal year are $450 million below projections, forcing the conservative legislature to make even more cuts. Last year they cut taxes on corporations and the wealthy nearly to zero, while raising sales and income taxes on everyone else. Now they are considering cutting even more taxes for the rich and corporations, even though projections for next year indicate an even larger shortage when all the cuts kick in.
2014-05-16 07:50:32 PM  
1 votes:

Victoly: [28.media.tumblr.com image 500x281]


Came here for this, leaving satisfied.
2014-05-16 07:44:42 PM  
1 votes:

thehobbes: dr_blasto: bobothemagnificent: don't believe that man made CO2 emissions are responsible for affecting the rate of climate change.

Why have you come to this conclusion. What evidence leads you to believe that our CO2 emissions have no responsibility for the rate of climate change?

Do you believe this because you don't like a solution offered in the form of carbon taxes, that is, do you disbelieve it because you don't like a potential solution?

Do you believe this way because god gave Noah a rainbow an declared all the half-ass attempts at making humans extinct were over?

Do you believe this because of well-researched independently reviewed scientific evidence clearly shows through repeatable experiments that this is just the way it is?

Do you believe this because fark you libs?

He either won't answer, will answer with cherry-picked data, or default to E.


There is an interesting new angle to CCD and specifically, GOP politicians who espouse it.  They aren't denying that climate change is taking place.  They deny that human activity is causing it.  Or worse, if it is causing it, then there is nothing that can be done, so why impose regulations that might be detrimental to the fossil fuel industries that contribute heavily to their campaigns.  The argument always being jobs.
2014-05-16 07:25:15 PM  
1 votes:

t3knomanser: Mantour: In fact, higher income tax may not be the answer, as capital gains are not taxed like income.

Which we could solve by making capital gains taxes progressive. You could ignore the first $10,000 of gains, then start taxing it at a rate that starts much lower than the income tax, but increases according to a steep curve- by the time you're getting $1M in capital gains, you're in a >90% tax bracket on those gains.


The GOP shut down the US government and nearly sent the entire world economy into a tailspin because of Obamacare. Can you imagine the reaction if this idea got any kind of serious traction?
2014-05-16 07:11:47 PM  
1 votes:

Dog Welder: This is clearly Obama's fault.


NPR interviewed Kansas GOP legislators about this a few nights ago; that's exactly what they said.
2014-05-16 06:59:25 PM  
1 votes:

bobothemagnificent: don't believe that man made CO2 emissions are responsible for affecting the rate of climate change.


Why have you come to this conclusion. What evidence leads you to believe that our CO2 emissions have no responsibility for the rate of climate change?

Do you believe this because you don't like a solution offered in the form of carbon taxes, that is, do you disbelieve it because you don't like a potential solution?

Do you believe this way because god gave Noah a rainbow an declared all the half-ass attempts at making humans extinct were over?

Do you believe this because of well-researched independently reviewed scientific evidence clearly shows through repeatable experiments that this is just the way it is?

Do you believe this because fark you libs?
2014-05-16 06:21:19 PM  
1 votes:

Cletus C.: Aquapope: Cletus C.: Uzzah: Dimensio: Cletus C.: Hmm

Kansas has an unemployment rate of 4.8 percent.

Illinois has an unemployment rate of 7.9 percent.

Illinois had a massive income tax increase in 2011.

Cheery-picked stats can be fun.

How have unemployment rates in each state changed over time?

/I personally do not know.

Unemployment rates, 12-month net change (Apr. 2013-Apr. 2014):

Kansas: -0.7%
Illinois: -1.3%

That makes sense, considering Illinois has a larger percentage to work with.

Oooh, a math backpedal.  The rate of change of the rate of change for Illinois is decreasing less than that of Kansas.  Is that your feeble support for your  initialfeeble comparison of the economies of an agricultural state and a manufacturing state?

I suppose you realize there is a thing called "full employment," which is not actually a 0 percent unemployment rate. Economists and the CBO have put that number in the 3 percent to 4 percent range. The closer you get to that full employment rate the tougher it is to show greater percentages of improvement, wouldn't you think?


Actually, that's not true at all.  As you reach full employment, you end up with an exceedingly healthy economy, where people are able to buy and sell, and lose and get jobs easily, and you can easily get employment numbers below "full employment."  Because of the economic health, It is much easier to go from 4% to 3% than it is to go from 9% to 8%.  The problem is, getting below full employment will, according to most economic theory, results in inflation, as people are easily able to demand higher wages in their jobs, their higher wages and the increased demand allow producers to raise prices.  We call this point of balance between inflation and unemployment "full employment" and the fed works by raising interests rates when that point is reached.

OTOH, getting from 9% to 8% is a right biatch.  If your economy is at 9% unemployment, your economy is terribly sick, people can't find work, wages are suppressed, products can't be sold, deflation is a real possibility.  At 9%, you need massive government spending to get your economy going again, massive spending that mayors and most governors do not have the ability to create.  Without that spending, you can have years and years of crappy employment and there is not much you can do about it.

All things being equal, of course.
2014-05-16 06:11:04 PM  
1 votes:

whidbey: Because there wasn't a President before Obama who nearly tanked the US economy under his watch.


There wasn't.  It's weird how often what whatever we might want or wish to believe, however wistfully, winds up without warrant.  Why would women and whoever else wage wasteful partisan war, when we can instead work for wholesome wellness?
2014-05-16 06:00:30 PM  
1 votes:

Raoul Eaton: Benevolent Misanthrope: Yeah - shocker.  Republican economics don't work.  Why the Fark do people vote for them?

They vote for them because those "economics" appeal to the mean-spirited, the greedy, the simple minded, and the frightened people, which forms a kind of loose coalition.  For election purposes, it doesn't matter whether their economics work--it just has to sound like it might work, at least to the folks who don't want to think too hard about it (or who will benefit from it).


And for a large number of them, racism.

Sometimes who it will hurt  more that matters.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X_8E3ENrKrQ

NSFW language
2014-05-16 05:55:49 PM  
1 votes:

Benevolent Misanthrope: Yeah - shocker.  Republican economics don't work.  Why the Fark do people vote for them?


Oh, they work just fine. It's just that the purpose of Republican economics is to drain economies dry by funneling money into the pockets of the already-wealthy.
2014-05-16 05:53:01 PM  
1 votes:

Benevolent Misanthrope: Yeah - shocker.  Republican economics don't work.  Why the Fark do people vote for them?


They vote for them because those "economics" appeal to the mean-spirited, the greedy, the simple minded, and the frightened people, which forms a kind of loose coalition.  For election purposes, it doesn't matter whether their economics work--it just has to sound like it might work, at least to the folks who don't want to think too hard about it (or who will benefit from it).
2014-05-16 05:50:05 PM  
1 votes:

edmo: If you want a tax cut to be a stimulus you have to give it to someone who will spend it. That would be common folks buying cars, new fishing rods, and TVs, not rich people who plow it all into yet another investment fund, stimulating only Wall Street.


That's even assuming the people's basic needs are already met, and in many cases that isn't so. There are a lot of families out there who would spend an extra $100 on food, because they are hungry. If they aren't hungry they might still need more/newer clothes, but definitely they will spend and drive the economy.

Any "job-creation" "incentives" should be directly tied to actual job creation: If you create X full-time jobs and pay those salaries and benefits for a year, you get a reduction in your tax load.

They've been getting breaks for a decade, there should be a freakin' labor shortage from so many jobs created. Instead it's like a parent giving their kid $200 for clothes and then dropping the kid of at Toys R Us, then giving the kid another $200 when he still doesn't have clothes and dropping them off at TRU again.
2014-05-16 05:41:30 PM  
1 votes:

bobothemagnificent: Because there's no bias like blatant liberal bias.


blogs.suntimes.com
2014-05-16 05:40:57 PM  
1 votes:

t3knomanser: Mantour: In fact, higher income tax may not be the answer, as capital gains are not taxed like income.

Which we could solve by making capital gains taxes progressive. You could ignore the first $10,000 of gains, then start taxing it at a rate that starts much lower than the income tax, but increases according to a steep curve- by the time you're getting $1M in capital gains, you're in a >90% tax bracket on those gains.


In his book, Piketty advocates a "Global Wealth Tax" which pretty much describes your solution.
2014-05-16 05:36:25 PM  
1 votes:

jigger: Um. It's Kansas. I don't think there's anything they could do to attract people and businesses to move there.


Attracting high-end science degreed people to this area is impossible in the KC area.  Your choices for your kids' education is the rapidly declining anti-science of Kansas, or the unaccredited Missouri system   What PhD wants to move his family here for that, even if the cost of living is amazingly low?
2014-05-16 05:31:06 PM  
1 votes:

jigger: Um. It's Kansas. I don't think there's anything they could do to attract people and businesses to move there.


They do plenty already, actually. It doesn't bode well for changing a paradigm to have stingy rich old white men still controlling everything.
2014-05-16 05:29:19 PM  
1 votes:

bobothemagnificent: Since it's ThinkProgress, I'm wondering where the other half of the story is.  Because there's no bias like blatant liberal bias.  And ThinkProgress.org is pretty much nothing but pure propaganda.  It would make Goebbels proud.  You'll forgive me if I take the entire story with a rather large grain of salt.


Dude, you don't even think climate change is real. I can't imagine what it would take for you to realize that tax cuts to the rich is doing it wrong.
2014-05-16 05:28:25 PM  
1 votes:

fusillade762: This is absurd. Even millionaires think this shiat is stupid.

CNBC's first-ever Millionaire Survey reveals that 51 percent of American millionaires believe inequality is a "major problem" for the U.S., and nearly two-thirds support higher taxes on the wealthy and a higher minimum wage as ways to narrow the wealth gap.


That's cute.  Millionaires.  What matters are the billionaires.  And they want more money.
2014-05-16 05:27:53 PM  
1 votes:
Since it's ThinkProgress, I'm wondering where the other half of the story is.  Because there's no bias like blatant liberal bias.  And ThinkProgress.org is pretty much nothing but pure propaganda.  It would make Goebbels proud.  You'll forgive me if I take the entire story with a rather large grain of salt.
2014-05-16 05:24:36 PM  
1 votes:
Brownback's official response to the state's poverty problem was a brief report that advocated fighting poverty by encouraging traditional family structures through eight-hour "pre-marital education" classes for couples wishing to wed, kicking tens of thousands of residents off of food stamps so that they will work harder, and finding mentors for the state's kids.

"My shiatty policies aren't working, let's double down with more shiatty policy!"
2014-05-16 05:24:20 PM  
1 votes:

Marcus Aurelius: Marcus Aurelius: No problem.  Just slash spending on education, infrastructure, drug treatment, head start, and anything else that might even remotely help disadvantaged citizens.

I was being sarcastic, and then I RTFA.

Jesus Christ.


No shiat.
2014-05-16 05:23:18 PM  
1 votes:
Probably because of gays, Obamacare, and Benghazi.
2014-05-16 05:19:33 PM  
1 votes:

Cletus C.: Hmm

Kansas has an unemployment rate of 4.8 percent.

Illinois has an unemployment rate of 7.9 percent.

Illinois had a massive income tax increase in 2011.

Cheery-picked stats can be fun.


Not only that, but unemployment in Kansas has been dropping.  Down from 5.5 last year.
Of course, the school systems are degrading and the poverty rate is increasing, so Kansas is effectively becoming a state of fully-employed ditch-diggers and fast-food fry cooks. If that is your goal, good for you!
2014-05-16 05:19:28 PM  
1 votes:
FTFA: The state Supreme Court has ordered lawmakers to restore funding to poor school districts, saying that the spending levels they enacted were so low as to be unconstitutional.

So, the plan was to cut taxes to attract businesses, as if they would be happy to hire the most poorly educated workers that a state could possibly produce?

I'm not a single issue voter, but this one issue might be enough to persuade me to ignore everything else and vote against every single jackass that voted in favor of education spending levels so low as to be un-farking-constitutional.

I can't imagine what in the world makes Kansas lawmakers think this will make their state attractive to residents, job creators or anyone considering moving there.
2014-05-16 05:18:07 PM  
1 votes:

Dog Welder: This is clearly Obama's fault.


He does meet or exceed the criteria for the N-word, according to that sheriff.
2014-05-16 05:15:17 PM  
1 votes:
Kansas is only having a fiscal crisis to distract us from Benghazi.
IP
2014-05-16 05:05:32 PM  
1 votes:
What's the matter with Kansas?
2014-05-16 05:02:55 PM  
1 votes:

Dimensio: Cletus C.: Hmm

Kansas has an unemployment rate of 4.8 percent.

Illinois has an unemployment rate of 7.9 percent.

Illinois had a massive income tax increase in 2011.

Cheery-picked stats can be fun.

How have unemployment rates in each state changed over time?

/I personally do not know.


Unemployment rates, 12-month net change (Apr. 2013-Apr. 2014):

Kansas: -0.7%
Illinois: -1.3%
2014-05-16 04:59:37 PM  
1 votes:

madgonad: All of the bordering states are in full recovery. Missouri, Nebraska, Colorado, and Oklahoma. The problem is that the Kansas government is cutting back on services (middle class jobs) to balance out the whopping tax cut. Now almost all of that tax cut is going to the top 5% - who aren't spending it on local products and services. The business owners are investing it and farmers are buying flashy new farm equipment that isn't made in Kansas. So the net result is fewer services and a shrinking middle class. In addition, nobody wants to move to a location where services (good schools) are deteriorating. So yes, Republican economics are killing the state. The same thing is happening nationally, but it isn't so blatantly obvious.



Oklahoma just had to use school activity fund to pay for teacher's health insurance.

And their pay still sucks. And our infrastructure is boned.
2014-05-16 04:58:41 PM  
1 votes:
Eliminate income taxes.
Eliminate estate taxes.
Eliminate corporate taxes.
Eliminate school funding.
Eliminate minimum wage.
Eliminate food stamps.

Create modern feudal system.  Live like kings.  Back to work peasants!
2014-05-16 04:49:28 PM  
1 votes:

ScreamingHangover: What do you expect from a state full of idiot who would vote this inept moron into office?


4/10. though the misspelling of "idiots" was a nice touch.

also, sibelius hasn't been governor for 5 years.
2014-05-16 04:43:37 PM  
1 votes:

NeverDrunk23: And even though they were burned for the 45,328th time, they will continue to put their hand on the stove's flame.

Again and again.


GOOD! Maybe eventually they'll manage to completely kill themselves off. And stop breeding.
2014-05-16 04:39:04 PM  
1 votes:
This is happening here in North Carolina right now. Tax cuts last year mean that we can't pay our teachers this year. Teachers are leaving for other states or other careers. Gov. McCrory just promised big pay raises but the legislature knows that there's no money. While I hope they'll get voted out next time around, given our gerrymandered districts it's not likely.
2014-05-16 04:38:51 PM  
1 votes:

Dog Welder: This is clearly Obama's fault.


This is the excuse Brownback is using. And the dumbass rubes here are lapping it up and will reelect him despite his declining popularity.
2014-05-16 04:33:51 PM  
1 votes:

ongbok: Cletus C.: Hmm

Kansas has an unemployment rate of 4.8 percent.

Illinois has an unemployment rate of 7.9 percent.

Illinois had a massive income tax increase in 2011.

Cheery-picked stats can be fun.

Illinois isn't having the economic crisis that seems to be happening in Kansas as a result of these policies.


Whatever it takes to make it look like libs shouldn't be taxing the richest people. Yes, even irrelevant statistics from another political landscape with more people.
2014-05-16 04:33:49 PM  
1 votes:
Stupid libtards are stupid. Everybody knows that reducing income is the only way to increase income, and that by increasing income you're sure to reduce income. Study it out.
2014-05-16 04:31:27 PM  
1 votes:

Cletus C.: Hmm

Kansas has an unemployment rate of 4.8 percent.

Illinois has an unemployment rate of 7.9 percent.

Illinois had a massive income tax increase in 2011.

Cheery-picked stats can be fun.


Illinois isn't having the economic crisis that seems to be happening in Kansas as a result of these policies.
2014-05-16 04:27:22 PM  
1 votes:
Wait, so defunding the entire state government is bad?
2014-05-16 04:22:47 PM  
1 votes:
Kansas was pretty nice when I lived there.  But I moved away 25 years ago.  Coincidence, I think not.
2014-05-16 04:19:00 PM  
1 votes:
28.media.tumblr.com
2014-05-16 03:20:17 PM  
1 votes:
I forget. This is fainting, right?


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Elections have consequences, don't they, Kansas?
2014-05-16 03:17:28 PM  
1 votes:
No problem.  Just slash spending on education, infrastructure, drug treatment, head start, and anything else that might even remotely help disadvantaged citizens.
 
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