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(MIT)   One billion people lack access to clean drinking water and two billion are hungry or malnourished. Don't worry, MIT is here to fix that   (alum.mit.edu) divider line 45
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2014-05-16 03:18:16 PM  
Better MIT than Harvard or Yale.  All the Ivy leaguers came up with was pointing out that those billion people are inner city takers promoting a culture of dependence and laziness and pointed out that if they really wanted clean water and nutritious food they could go find jobs to lift themselves up by their bootstraps.
 
2014-05-16 03:46:14 PM  
Well, except for 47% of them.
 
2014-05-16 04:05:17 PM  
This is a noble cause. We will all benefit from this research.
 
2014-05-16 06:01:55 PM  
Meh, they'll just reproduce until it becomes a problem again
 
2014-05-16 06:06:40 PM  

Nadie_AZ: This is a noble cause. We will all benefit from this research.


Causes are not noble. It's the implementation of the science that matters.

The scientist who created electric generators and engines that ran on fossil fules thought they were being noble.
 
2014-05-16 07:17:02 PM  
MIT has found a cure for corrupt, Kleptocrat governments?

/if not, they could invent a way to produce food out of thin air, and it still won't solve the problem
 
2014-05-16 07:17:06 PM  
best to let them all die, more food & water for USA, and better for Mother Earth
 
2014-05-16 07:24:51 PM  

Darth_Lukecash: Nadie_AZ: This is a noble cause. We will all benefit from this research.

Causes are not noble. It's the implementation of the science that matters.

The scientist who created electric generators and engines that ran on fossil fules thought they were being noble.


I pity the fules.
 
2014-05-16 07:45:31 PM  
People have been around a lot longer than money.

/if you only judge humanity in dollars and cents you are a big part of the problem.
 
2014-05-16 07:45:59 PM  
FTFA: The lab's mission is to "spearhead research that will help humankind adapt to a rapidly changing planet and combat world-wide water and food-supply scarcity."

What food-supply scarcity?  We have more than enough food production capability, we just let a couple billion starve anyway.
 
2014-05-16 07:55:04 PM  
Global food/water shortages are a myth.

The problem is ... getting the excess food and water that some places have, over to the places that have a shortage.

Hell, a lot of the places that have excess are willing to just give the shiat away ... as long as you pay the shipping costs.

It's not so much a social problem, but a logistical problem.

// see Oregon, wanting to dump perfectly good water because a human peed in a reservoir (but animal P, just fine) ... filter that shiat and send it to Africa.
 
2014-05-16 07:59:03 PM  
alum.mit.edu

"This water tastes like earthworm shiat!"
 
2014-05-16 08:07:20 PM  
Every damn week you hear about some new world-saving device from MIT, then you never hear about it again and the world still needs saving.

Put out some actual results or DIAF, MIT.
 
2014-05-16 08:08:21 PM  

lordargent: Global food/water shortages are a myth.

The problem is ... getting the excess food and water that some places have, over to the places that have a shortage.

Hell, a lot of the places that have excess are willing to just give the shiat away ... as long as you pay the shipping costs.

It's not so much a social problem, but a logistical problem.

// see Oregon, wanting to dump perfectly good water because a human peed in a reservoir (but animal P, just fine) ... filter that shiat and send it to Africa.


Is that you, Sam Kennison?
 
2014-05-16 08:20:33 PM  
Enjoy your mealworms, poor people.

(Note: mealworms aren't bad.)
 
2014-05-16 08:33:48 PM  
Is it actually going to be fixed, or are we just going to hear more footstamping about how we don't have the correct infrastructure in place while no moves whatsoever get made towards building said needed infrastructure?

Thanks but no.
 
2014-05-16 08:40:56 PM  
Feed the first billion to the second two. Two problems solved. Just make sure they're well done.
 
2014-05-16 08:48:36 PM  
MIT figured out a way to have the 1000 wealthiest people in the world drop dead and have their assets distributed among the poorest?
 
2014-05-16 09:14:19 PM  
Ah 270 years ahead of Project Purity. Good jjob MIT.
 
2014-05-16 09:25:20 PM  

Darth_Lukecash: Nadie_AZ: This is a noble cause. We will all benefit from this research.

Causes are not noble. It's the implementation of the science that matters.

The scientist who created electric generators and engines that ran on fossil fules thought they were being noble.


You're right: it's the implementation that's noble. In this case, it's the reason it was invented -- the cause.

Invent it because it would enrich the lives of millions? That's noble. Invent it just to make millions? Not noble.

Invent it just to make millions but it just so happens to enrich the lives of millions? Noble use of the invention, not a noble cause for it's invention.
 
2014-05-16 09:26:48 PM  
Here's a solution: don't have so farking many people.

It may also help to not have so many farking people...
 
2014-05-16 09:38:49 PM  
Offer to send them to Siberia to create Vaults like in Fallout_?
 
2014-05-16 09:48:58 PM  

varnigus: Here's a solution: don't have so farking many people.

It may also help to not have so many farking people...


This. No one ever starved to death before 1983. No one ever had problems getting clean drinking water until 1997. The problem is obviously numbers and there is no room for technological improvement.
 
2014-05-16 09:49:09 PM  
They can develop the technology, but there will still be no money for any corporations to make deploying it. Lots of the worlds problems would be solved already if they gave a shiat.
 
2014-05-16 09:53:20 PM  

J. Frank Parnell: They can develop the technology, but there will still be no money for any corporations to make deploying it. Lots of the worlds problems would be solved already if they gave a shiat.


Meh, everyone's favorite company Monsanto is pretty well covering the food bit, and the water bit is one of the most well-funded projects in engineering research and has several major global-scale nonprofits dedicated to it.

MIT's not really starting anything new here... probably even the school itself has had plenty of projects to this effect running for the last 70 years just like everyone else, honestly.  This is just giving them a building so the grad students can have adjacent offices and not have to walk as much.
 
2014-05-16 10:16:44 PM  
MIT is not the people you want working on this. Especially if they're JUST getting started.

There's dozens of agricultural universities out there. Penn State, for example. The have faculties who have been working on improving food pro since George Washington's teeth were natural.
 
2014-05-16 10:24:37 PM  

doglover: MIT is not the people you want working on this. Especially if they're JUST getting started.

There's dozens of agricultural universities out there. Penn State, for example. The have faculties who have been working on improving food pro since George Washington's teeth were natural.


The more bright minds the merrier, I say. Plus I bet they'll be some of the best for finding water solutions.

/insert lame chemistry joke here
 
2014-05-16 10:30:39 PM  

reveal101: MIT figured out a way to have the 1000 wealthiest people in the world drop dead and have their assets distributed among the poorest?


See, the problem with that is that invariably when people unaccostumed to wealth come into a windfall, they don't have the skills necessary to properly manage it, and they end up eventually losing it.

It's not that they are stupid, it's that they are inexperienced.

So I don't think your plan would work, facetious though it may be.
 
2014-05-16 11:01:21 PM  
I think that in the end, we will discover that Population, like Economics is boom or bust, feast or famine cycle. Until we can convert to a cyclical, sustainable model and break from a linear all or nothing  model, we are doomed to repeat history.

Universal birth control, euthanasia and even eugenics. Universal healthcare, mental healthcare, GMO foodstuffs, even GMO Humans may be necessary.

An emphasis on quality of life over quantity.

We will never agree. We will never conform. It will never happen.

/After nearly a Billion years, good luck stopping Evolution.
 
2014-05-16 11:01:33 PM  

dittybopper: reveal101: MIT figured out a way to have the 1000 wealthiest people in the world drop dead and have their assets distributed among the poorest?

See, the problem with that is that invariably when people unaccostumed to wealth come into a windfall, they don't have the skills necessary to properly manage it, and they end up eventually losing it.

It's not that they are stupid, it's that they are inexperienced.

So I don't think your plan would work, facetious though it may be.


He was taking about people like you numb nuts.. because compared to the 1000 wealthiest you and I are closer to the poorest of the poor in the poorest country in terms of wealth.
 
2014-05-16 11:04:49 PM  

picturescrazy: The more bright minds the merrier, I say.


But there's smart and then there's clever. MIT is full of clever people. Most of the sciences are. They know their specialization inside out and sideways, but they don't know anything else. That's why they never have enough funding.

Edison was smart, Tesla was clever.
 
2014-05-16 11:15:30 PM  

mrlewish: dittybopper: reveal101: MIT figured out a way to have the 1000 wealthiest people in the world drop dead and have their assets distributed among the poorest?

See, the problem with that is that invariably when people unaccostumed to wealth come into a windfall, they don't have the skills necessary to properly manage it, and they end up eventually losing it.

It's not that they are stupid, it's that they are inexperienced.

So I don't think your plan would work, facetious though it may be.

He was taking about people like you numb nuts.. because compared to the 1000 wealthiest you and I are closer to the poorest of the poor in the poorest country in terms of wealth.


Even still, people that make a significant amount of money will blow it all. 4 out of 5 NFL players end up broke or nearly broke and they earn a huge amount of money.
 
2014-05-16 11:34:41 PM  

J. Frank Parnell: They can develop the technology, but there will still be no money for any corporations to make deploying it. Lots of the worlds problems would be solved already if they gave a shiat.


Dean Kamen got Coke to back his Slingshot technology and they're starting to deploy their Ekocenter units.

http://www.coca-colacompany.com/ekoce nter#TCCC
 
2014-05-16 11:53:25 PM  
We live on a planet full of water! What, exactly, is taking so goddamn long?

You take salt water, you boil it, you catch the evaporated water, then you add some trace minerals to it to make it taste good. This is not that hard.
 
2014-05-17 12:37:39 AM  

Lando Lincoln: We live on a planet full of water! What, exactly, is taking so goddamn long?

You take salt water, you boil it, you catch the evaporated water, then you add some trace minerals to it to make it taste good. This is not that hard.


But it does take a lot of energy. Solves our water crisis, causes an energy crisis.
 
2014-05-17 12:51:21 AM  

Danger Avoid Death: Lando Lincoln: We live on a planet full of water! What, exactly, is taking so goddamn long?

You take salt water, you boil it, you catch the evaporated water, then you add some trace minerals to it to make it taste good. This is not that hard.

But it does take a lot of energy. Solves our water crisis, causes an energy crisis.


If only there were an eternal hydrogen furnace that constantly bombarded us with energy from the sky.
 
2014-05-17 01:46:24 AM  

AlgaeRancher: People have been around a lot longer than money.

/if you only judge humanity in dollars and cents you are a big part of the problem.


People in south america were leading a much better life before money came into the picture.
 
2014-05-17 01:50:03 AM  

picturescrazy: varnigus: Here's a solution: don't have so farking many people.

It may also help to not have so many farking people...

This. No one ever starved to death before 1983. No one ever had problems getting clean drinking water until 1997. The problem is obviously numbers and there is no room for technological improvement.


Um...not quite. 2-3billion people and you can very easily take some resources from the well-off to support the more troubled. We have the technology to support that now. Call it "Robin Hood style" or whatever you want. Now, good luck feeding 7 billion plus and having enough left over to feed the rest. Yeah, my suggestion is horrible and dramatic. However, at this pace, humanity as we know it can not possibly persist.
 
2014-05-17 02:10:40 AM  

Heraclitus: /After nearly a Billion years, good luck stopping Evolution.


Why would we stop it?  The entire history of human civilization is all about accelerating it, and generally doing it faster than any of our competition.
 
2014-05-17 07:59:11 AM  
have the starving ones eat the ones who need more liquid. problem solved.
 
2014-05-17 08:49:52 AM  
I don't think you can ever really solve hunger and thirst by increasing the availability of food and clean water. If that sounds insane, it isn't. The parts of the world where these issues are a problem are the same parts where famine and pestilence, rather than social order, are the only things holding the human population in equilibrium. If you have a society with 100 million people and enough food and water to sustain 80 million, then 20 million are in danger. Add enough food and water to sustain 20 million more, and the population will just grown to 120 million, with 20 million still in danger. We humans have demonstrated time and again that we are animals who will constantly respond to what should be an improvement in living conditions by simply breeding ourselves once again to the razor's edge of survival.
 
2014-05-17 10:21:52 AM  
The problem is overpopulation. How about we engineer a virus that makes humans sterile and release it. Henceforth, reproduction will have to take place in United Nations-run labs and hospitals and anyone wanting to reproduce will have to get a permit. All newborns' DNA will be recorded. If a kid with unregistered DNA shows up anywhere, it will be euthanized.

What?
 
2014-05-17 11:44:01 AM  
That sounds about how much the planet is overpopulated by.  I say let nature take its course.
 
2014-05-17 01:02:22 PM  
I have a device in my backpacking gear that cost $30 (retail price), and will purify 1 million gallons of questionable water into something drinkable by first world standards. I love thinking about it. Here, in the palm of my hand, is a million clean gallons of water. And I don't even really need the thing, clean water comes out of my tap. I just use it for getting more water when I'm out trudging through the wilderness for recreation.
 
2014-05-17 03:40:02 PM  
Great.  When they're finished, all 7 billion-plus on Earth will be malnourished and have no
access to drinkable water.
 
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