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(Fox News)   Is country music dead? "There appears to be not even the slightest attempt to "say" anything other than to repeat the tired, overused mantra of redneck party boy in his truck, partying in said truck, hoping to get lucky in the cab of said truck"   (foxnews.com) divider line 320
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2014-05-16 08:45:06 AM
Dear Collin Raye, thank you for your insight into why country music is repetitive. It's almost funny because you repeated everything that was said in the video   "Why Country Music Was Awful in 2013."  It's almost like you're meta-driving home the point, but I won't give you that much credit.


/P.S.thank you for your insight into why country music is repetitive. It's almost funny because you repeated everything that was said in the video "Why Country Music Was Awful in 2013." It's almost like you're meta-driving home the point, but I won't give you that much credit.
 
2014-05-16 08:50:57 AM
Apparently someone doesn't know anything about Robert Earl Keen, Big Sandy and His Fly-Rite Boys, Todd Snider, or Robbie Fulks.

There's a LOT of great country out there. I means scads of great artists, who are doing some brilliant work. The radio? That's the same wasteland of formulaic lowest common denominator craptastic that most pop stations are full of, which is to say, "the stuff we produce that we know will appeal to a demographic that buys the sh*t that we're selling" and is pretty much crafted with the elegance of anything done in mass production. It's supposed to be machine-like in utility and appeal. And there are folks who certainly do gobble it up, because it's there, and in the background while they work, and what else are they going to listen to? NPR?

That being said, there are still folks who are doing a lot of great stuff. Like any genre of music, you have to look for it. The studios are pushing artists that they're essentially crafting to either be entirely disposable, or pushing for folks who are going to be staples, that they can count on, and who are entirely beholden to their interests. Because they're a better investment in the long run. That's the business model. It's no different than in rock, in dance, or whatever popular sub-genre you look at. And yeah, that even includes the folky set.

Country isn't dead, but it's filled with the same profit motive, and the big studios aren't interested in anything risky, because that means the possibility of butts NOT in seats. No one wants that. No one wants feelings hurt, no one wants anything but bubblegum, because risk is something that record execs fear more than basement dwellers fear the shower stall at the gym. There's a lot of good stuff out there, and some great artists doing some brilliant work, but you have to look for it. You have to sift through. With ska, with techno, with rock, with blues, with jazz, with any genre you can think of, because there's a lot of folks who push the safest, lowest common denominator stuff, because the statisticals show that's where the money is. And that's no different now, than at pretty much any time in the history of recorded for popular consumption music.
 
2014-05-16 09:01:58 AM
That's his story and he's stickin' to it.
 
2014-05-16 09:07:44 AM
BUDWIEEEEEESER YOU'VE CREATED AHHHHH MONSTER!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-1WSPAvT7qE

In Rhinestone, Stallone's singing was a bit off but he did manage to provide Foley material for future movies that featured surgery without anesthesia.
 
2014-05-16 09:14:48 AM

hubiestubert: The radio? That's the same wasteland of formulaic lowest common denominator craptastic that most pop stations are full of


You're right. That said, I do think country radio is worse now than it's ever been. Or maybe I'm biased and looking at my old days in the biz with rose colored glasses (apologies to John Conlee)
 
2014-05-16 09:15:00 AM
Because pop music of other genres is so deep, right?

There appears to be not even the slightest attempt to "say" anything other than to repeat the tired, overused mantra of redneck party boy in his truck, partying in said truck, hoping to get lucky in the cab of said truck,

The bed.  Bed of the truck.  BroCountry is entirely this: "Hey pretty girl in your painted on jeans, I'm a bad boy with no impulse control, so let's get into my Chevy Silverado™, drive out to a creek, then get drunk and f*ck in the truck bed."
 
2014-05-16 09:16:00 AM
"That's My Kind of Night" by Luke Bryan is the worst song released in the world since "Wonderful Christmastime" by Paul McCartney in 1979.

I'd pay money to watch Don Williams and Merle Haggard beat Luke Bryan with baseball bats
 
2014-05-16 09:21:53 AM

hubiestubert: Apparently someone doesn't know anything about Robert Earl Keen, Big Sandy and His Fly-Rite Boys, Todd Snider, or Robbie Fulks.

There's a LOT of great country out there. I means scads of great artists, who are doing some brilliant work. The radio? That's the same wasteland of formulaic lowest common denominator craptastic that most pop stations are full of, which is to say, "the stuff we produce that we know will appeal to a demographic that buys the sh*t that we're selling" and is pretty much crafted with the elegance of anything done in mass production. It's supposed to be machine-like in utility and appeal. And there are folks who certainly do gobble it up, because it's there, and in the background while they work, and what else are they going to listen to? NPR?

That being said, there are still folks who are doing a lot of great stuff. Like any genre of music, you have to look for it. The studios are pushing artists that they're essentially crafting to either be entirely disposable, or pushing for folks who are going to be staples, that they can count on, and who are entirely beholden to their interests. Because they're a better investment in the long run. That's the business model. It's no different than in rock, in dance, or whatever popular sub-genre you look at. And yeah, that even includes the folky set.

Country isn't dead, but it's filled with the same profit motive, and the big studios aren't interested in anything risky, because that means the possibility of butts NOT in seats. No one wants that. No one wants feelings hurt, no one wants anything but bubblegum, because risk is something that record execs fear more than basement dwellers fear the shower stall at the gym. There's a lot of good stuff out there, and some great artists doing some brilliant work, but you have to look for it. You have to sift through. With ska, with techno, with rock, with blues, with jazz, with any genre you can think of, because there's a lot of folks who push the safest, lo ...


What is killing it is that the stuff on the radio is catering to the right wing crowd.  So that cuts out half your audience that might otherwise enjoy your music.  That and glurge, oh god,Momma's shoes made me want to shoot the radio.
 
2014-05-16 09:22:33 AM

sigdiamond2000: "That's My Kind of Night" by Luke Bryan is the worst song released in the world since "Wonderful Christmastime" by Paul McCartney in 1979.

I'd pay money to watch Don Williams and Merle Haggard beat Luke Bryan with baseball bats


Throw in Waylon Jennings and Johnny Cash and I'm in.  Hell, even Gentleman Jim Reeves and Patsy Cline would beat the living snot out Luke Bryan, I'm sure.
 
2014-05-16 09:24:21 AM
EvilEgg: What is killing it is that the stuff on the radio is catering to the right wing crowd.  So that cuts out half your audience that might otherwise enjoy your music.  That and glurge, oh god,Momma's shoes made me want to shoot the radio.

So, Republicans are all about farking in the bed of the truck?  Because that is the only goddamn thing anyone talks about on radio country right now.

But yes - I remember the Great Glurge Wars of the 2000s.  It was a dark time.
 
2014-05-16 09:28:21 AM

Benevolent Misanthrope: EvilEgg: What is killing it is that the stuff on the radio is catering to the right wing crowd.  So that cuts out half your audience that might otherwise enjoy your music.  That and glurge, oh god,Momma's shoes made me want to shoot the radio.

So, Republicans are all about farking in the bed of the truck?  Because that is the only goddamn thing anyone talks about on radio country right now.

But yes - I remember the Great Glurge Wars of the 2000s.  It was a dark time.


Maybe country has moved on since I last listened (about the time of the Iraq war)
 
2014-05-16 09:28:38 AM
Yeah, it's horrible now. Not like that fount of creativity known as 90s country, huh? Who can forget when everybody had a schmaltzy song with a horribly contrived premise for the sole purpose of adding a tear-jerkingness to the repeat of the chorus; horrible pablum like "Don't Take the Girl," that song about a father's love that sounds horribly creepy, and...oh, yeah, this gem. http://youtu.be/JRlwnb3zIrE
 
2014-05-16 09:28:41 AM

Benevolent Misanthrope: Because pop music of other genres is so deep, right?


When your posts mean nothing I go la-la-la.
 
2014-05-16 09:40:52 AM
There is a lot of good country music out there if you look for it.

Listening to commercial country radio? Not so much.
 
2014-05-16 09:42:27 AM

John Buck 41: That's his story and he's stickin' to it.


I'm glad he found time to write an article between selling VCRs in Arkansas at a Wal-Mart.
 
2014-05-16 09:43:00 AM

Diogenes: Benevolent Misanthrope: Because pop music of other genres is so deep, right?

When your posts mean nothing I go la-la-la.


I was responding the the "Country isn't saying anything" anymore.  Like it ever did.  Like any radio pop - of any genre - ever does.  What - you think radio pop  isn't banal?
 
2014-05-16 09:44:21 AM

hubiestubert: Apparently someone doesn't know anything about Robert Earl Keen, Big Sandy and His Fly-Rite Boys, Todd Snider, or Robbie Fulks.


I agree. There's still some good country music, but I think they mostly call it "Americana" now. REK, Lyle Lovett, Mary Chapin Carpenter are some that I like.
 
2014-05-16 09:44:28 AM

EvilEgg: Benevolent Misanthrope: EvilEgg: What is killing it is that the stuff on the radio is catering to the right wing crowd.  So that cuts out half your audience that might otherwise enjoy your music.  That and glurge, oh god,Momma's shoes made me want to shoot the radio.

So, Republicans are all about farking in the bed of the truck?  Because that is the only goddamn thing anyone talks about on radio country right now.

But yes - I remember the Great Glurge Wars of the 2000s.  It was a dark time.

Maybe country has moved on since I last listened (about the time of the Iraq war)


It has.  It's got some o' dat feel good stuff, told a girl at the bar to slider her pretty little ass up into the Chevy Silverado™ and drove out by the creek.
 
2014-05-16 09:44:48 AM

Benevolent Misanthrope: Diogenes: Benevolent Misanthrope: Because pop music of other genres is so deep, right?

When your posts mean nothing I go la-la-la.

I was responding the the "Country isn't saying anything" anymore.  Like it ever did.  Like any radio pop - of any genre - ever does.  What - you think radio pop  isn't banal?


LOL.  I was actually agreeing with you by lifting a lyric from a currently popular song called La La La.  ;-)
 
2014-05-16 09:46:22 AM

FirstNationalBastard: John Buck 41: That's his story and he's stickin' to it.

I'm glad he found time to write an article between selling VCRs in Arkansas at a Wal-Mart.


As schmaltzy as that song is (bigtime) I always liked it.
 
2014-05-16 09:46:39 AM

Benevolent Misanthrope: EvilEgg: Benevolent Misanthrope: EvilEgg: What is killing it is that the stuff on the radio is catering to the right wing crowd.  So that cuts out half your audience that might otherwise enjoy your music.  That and glurge, oh god,Momma's shoes made me want to shoot the radio.

So, Republicans are all about farking in the bed of the truck?  Because that is the only goddamn thing anyone talks about on radio country right now.

But yes - I remember the Great Glurge Wars of the 2000s.  It was a dark time.

Maybe country has moved on since I last listened (about the time of the Iraq war)

It has.  It's got some o' dat feel good stuff, told a girl at the bar to slider her pretty little ass up into the Chevy Silverado™ and drove out by the creek.


You forgot the GIRL POWER IDONNEEDNOMAN branch of pop country that has sprung up.
 
2014-05-16 09:47:44 AM

Diogenes: Benevolent Misanthrope: Diogenes: Benevolent Misanthrope: Because pop music of other genres is so deep, right?

When your posts mean nothing I go la-la-la.

I was responding the the "Country isn't saying anything" anymore.  Like it ever did.  Like any radio pop - of any genre - ever does.  What - you think radio pop  isn't banal?

LOL.  I was actually agreeing with you by lifting a lyric from a currently popular song called La La La.  ;-)


Oh, dammit.  I'm an idiot.
 
2014-05-16 09:48:20 AM

John Buck 41: FirstNationalBastard: John Buck 41: That's his story and he's stickin' to it.

I'm glad he found time to write an article between selling VCRs in Arkansas at a Wal-Mart.

As schmaltzy as that song is (bigtime) I always liked it.


He always had very sappy, yet decent singles.

But Don't Take The Girl (which was mentioned earlier)? Yeah, that was so bad it's fun to listen to.
 
2014-05-16 09:51:36 AM

FirstNationalBastard: Benevolent Misanthrope: EvilEgg: Benevolent Misanthrope: EvilEgg: What is killing it is that the stuff on the radio is catering to the right wing crowd.  So that cuts out half your audience that might otherwise enjoy your music.  That and glurge, oh god,Momma's shoes made me want to shoot the radio.

So, Republicans are all about farking in the bed of the truck?  Because that is the only goddamn thing anyone talks about on radio country right now.

But yes - I remember the Great Glurge Wars of the 2000s.  It was a dark time.

Maybe country has moved on since I last listened (about the time of the Iraq war)

It has.  It's got some o' dat feel good stuff, told a girl at the bar to slider her pretty little ass up into the Chevy Silverado™ and drove out by the creek.

You forgot the GIRL POWER IDONNEEDNOMAN branch of pop country that has sprung up.


Maybe it's because I'm in Canada, but I don't ever hear that.

I hear "My man done gone and I got revenge with my chainsaw," or "My man cheated on me so I keyed his car" or "My ex cheated on me so he'll do it to you - don't date him"... but never a woman talking about how she doesn't need a man.  It's all about how helpless she is because her man can cheat or whatever and there's not a damn thing she can do about it.

Oh wait - there's one song about a woman begging her boyfriend who is treating her like shiat to "Make me want to stay".  Is that what you meant?
 
2014-05-16 09:53:45 AM

vernonFL: There is a lot of good country music out there if you look for it.

Listening to commercial country radio? Not so much.


Pretty much the writer's point... the industry is promoting only triteness from male artists.  The minor leaguers may be doing great things but they're not going to carry a genre that is one of the most popular in the country by playing 500-seat theaters.

Female country seems to be doing fine in terms of diversity but male country, at least the stuff that I hear occasionally, is goof-ball music.
 
2014-05-16 09:54:58 AM

FirstNationalBastard: John Buck 41: FirstNationalBastard: John Buck 41: That's his story and he's stickin' to it.

I'm glad he found time to write an article between selling VCRs in Arkansas at a Wal-Mart.

As schmaltzy as that song is (bigtime) I always liked it.

He always had very sappy, yet decent singles.

But Don't Take The Girl (which was mentioned earlier)? Yeah, that was so bad it's fun to listen to.


Never been a McGraw fan, though I can take 'Live Like You Were Dying' once every couple years.
 
2014-05-16 09:57:42 AM
I like the song I always hear in the grocery store where the guy measures time in cans of beer.
 
2014-05-16 09:58:04 AM
Don't fergit the fightin' of the good ol' boys.

/ Hillbilly deluxe
 
2014-05-16 09:58:31 AM
It's worse than dead Subs.
 
2014-05-16 09:59:19 AM
Alt-country is becoming very popular, it sounds just like old country. Modern country is just pop40 with a twang.
 
2014-05-16 10:00:05 AM
Yes, country music is dead.

Why has nobody posted this yet?

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2014-05-16 10:01:19 AM
Pretty good at drinking beer
 
2014-05-16 10:01:30 AM

EvilEgg: Benevolent Misanthrope: EvilEgg: What is killing it is that the stuff on the radio is catering to the right wing crowd.  So that cuts out half your audience that might otherwise enjoy your music.  That and glurge, oh god,Momma's shoes made me want to shoot the radio.

So, Republicans are all about farking in the bed of the truck?  Because that is the only goddamn thing anyone talks about on radio country right now.

But yes - I remember the Great Glurge Wars of the 2000s.  It was a dark time.

Maybe country has moved on since I last listened (about the time of the Iraq war)


It's ethnic genre music. What are the majority of rap lyrics about?
 
2014-05-16 10:02:04 AM

hubiestubert: Apparently someone doesn't know anything about Robert Earl Keen, Big Sandy and His Fly-Rite Boys, Todd Snider, or Robbie Fulks.

There's a LOT of great country out there. I means scads of great artists, who are doing some brilliant work. The radio? That's the same wasteland of formulaic lowest common denominator craptastic that most pop stations are full of, which is to say, "the stuff we produce that we know will appeal to a demographic that buys the sh*t that we're selling" and is pretty much crafted with the elegance of anything done in mass production. It's supposed to be machine-like in utility and appeal. And there are folks who certainly do gobble it up, because it's there, and in the background while they work, and what else are they going to listen to? NPR?

That being said, there are still folks who are doing a lot of great stuff. Like any genre of music, you have to look for it. The studios are pushing artists that they're essentially crafting to either be entirely disposable, or pushing for folks who are going to be staples, that they can count on, and who are entirely beholden to their interests. Because they're a better investment in the long run. That's the business model. It's no different than in rock, in dance, or whatever popular sub-genre you look at. And yeah, that even includes the folky set.

Country isn't dead, but it's filled with the same profit motive, and the big studios aren't interested in anything risky, because that means the possibility of butts NOT in seats. No one wants that. No one wants feelings hurt, no one wants anything but bubblegum, because risk is something that record execs fear more than basement dwellers fear the shower stall at the gym. There's a lot of good stuff out there, and some great artists doing some brilliant work, but you have to look for it. You have to sift through. With ska, with techno, with rock, with blues, with jazz, with any genre you can think of, because there's a lot of folks who push the safest, lowest common denominator stuff, because the statisticals show that's where the money is. And that's no different now, than at pretty much any time in the history of recorded for popular consumption music.


Yeah, but what gets played on radio?

The unoriginal stuff.
 
2014-05-16 10:02:19 AM
And yet the country "format" is now just about the most popular one in radio.
 
2014-05-16 10:02:49 AM

sigdiamond2000: "That's My Kind of Night" by Luke Bryan is the worst song released in the world since "Wonderful Christmastime" by Paul McCartney in 1979.

I'd pay money to watch Don Williams and Merle Haggard beat Luke Bryan with baseball bats


I've never heard that song, so I read the lyrics. I think you may be right that it is indeed the worst song of the last 30 years. I can't imagine a more insipid string of words. It's like a Mad-Lib where you're only allowed to use country cliches.
 
2014-05-16 10:04:39 AM
Pop music sucks.  Why should pop country be special?  I'm gonna put on some Bolt Thrower.
 
2014-05-16 10:04:55 AM

Evil Mackerel: It's worse than dead Subs.


Let's not be hasty, Cherlene is making some pretty impressive outlaw country music lately. It's been selling like crazy in the South. Specifically, South America
 
2014-05-16 10:05:12 AM
And the current generation isn't even good about getting lucky.

Need to dial up some Conway Twitty for that.

And why can't anyone write a good bar fight song like Charlie Daniels?
 
2014-05-16 10:05:39 AM
You can still find some popular Country singers that aren't all for show. Jamey Johnson is one of my favorites. A good mixture of old school and modern with a bit of polish.
 
2014-05-16 10:05:53 AM
No, it's not.  Country Music radio, like all radio, just happens to suck more than ever.

It has had its run for better or worse and it's time for Nashville to get back to producing, and more importantly promoting, good singers singing real songs.

That's just not going to happen.  The internet has created a long-tail situation for music.  There is a very small pool of bankable stars that will sell and there's a very small audience (mostly tweens) that buys.  So country music radio has to be about creating a few pop-country stars to appeal as wide as possible and play it over and over again because they have to put their eggs in less baskets.  This is the case in every genre.

Music has never been better for the music nerd (like me).  Music has never been worse for the casual fan.

I was just searching for Chad Vangaalen who I never heard until this morning on college radio because I liked one catchy song.  Now, I can hear more of his stuff and see what I like.

If you're just sitting around waiting for Star Hits 101 to play something reminiscent of the days when "Dark Side of the Moon" ruled the air waves you can forget it.  Tweens want to hear the same two Katy Perry fifteen times a day for six months.
 
2014-05-16 10:06:03 AM

SlothB77: Yeah, but what gets played on radio?

The unoriginal stuff.


That's the case with 99% of what gets played on the radio.
 
2014-05-16 10:06:51 AM

LarryDan43: Alt-country is becoming very popular, it sounds just like old country. Modern country is just pop40 with a twang.


This entirely. There is a lot of good stuff out there, but you won't hear it on most radio stations. We're lucky to have a lot of good artists in this area to see live, and there are a couple of little stations that play traditional stuff, and new artists who play that - i think they call it Americana a lot.

Look up KNON 89.3, you can listen through the internet. A local community public radio station that literally plays things from every type of music and community. From 4-6 central during the week they have a great country program, followed by a great blues program. Definitely worth listening to.
 
2014-05-16 10:07:12 AM

doubled99: And yet the country "format" is now just about the most popular one in radio.


sites.cdnis.edu.hk
 
2014-05-16 10:08:29 AM
It's the white version of rap.  As long as it rhymes and degrades women it's a hit.
 
2014-05-16 10:09:00 AM
I call it suburban pop. Mostly it's Brittney Spears with cowboy boots and a hat on.  Allison Krauss is country, Taylor Swift is not.
 
2014-05-16 10:09:02 AM
My problem with country, along with what other mentioned (i.e. mass produced pop music with twang) is that you would think from listening to country music that you have to be a southerner to be "country".

You get 20 minutes out of Pittsburgh and nothing but country, that and meth.
 
2014-05-16 10:10:39 AM
Your favorite music genre sucks.
 
2014-05-16 10:10:58 AM

Another Government Employee: And the current generation isn't even good about getting lucky.

Need to dial up some Conway Twitty for that.

And why can't anyone write a good bar fight song like Charlie Daniels?


Ah, Conway Twitty. Nowhere else in country, save for in a David Allen Coe song, did you know someone was going to take it up the pooper.

/bom bom bom
 
2014-05-16 10:11:02 AM

Rapmaster2000: Music has never been better for the music nerd (like me).  Music has never been worse for the casual fan.


That's sad but true across many genres.  Well put.
 
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