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(Slate)   "Dear Prudence: I told everyone that my teacher hurt me and she got fired because of my allegations. Problem was, I was lying and I kinda feel bad about it. Should I say something or am I okay forgetting all about it?"   (slate.com ) divider line
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2014-05-16 07:51:51 AM  
The subtext is obvious. Telling someone about what your teacher is doing to you will ruin their life and you will feel bad about for the rest of yours.

Thanks for the tip, Prudie.
 
2014-05-16 08:06:37 AM  
I prefer the next letter about the guy intentionally showing his junk and claiming he left his fly down
 
2014-05-16 08:59:12 AM  
If the story is true, which I doubt any dear prudence is, the details should be handed over to law enforcement to identify the idiot.


/dnrtfa
 
2014-05-16 09:10:35 AM  

PreMortem: If the story is true, which I doubt any dear prudence is, the details should be handed over to law enforcement to identify the idiot.


/dnrtfa


IF this story is true, it's probably well past the statute of limitations. She said she was a child when it happened and now she's a grandmother.
 
2014-05-16 09:16:25 AM  
I call bullshiat. If she's a grandmother, she's probably older than I am, and when I was a kid if your teacher saw fit to whoop you your parents didn't complain. They figured you must have deserved it, and you'd be lucky if all they did was write a note thanking the teacher for doing their job.
 
2014-05-16 09:54:06 AM  

scottydoesntknow: PreMortem: If the story is true, which I doubt any dear prudence is, the details should be handed over to law enforcement to identify the idiot.


/dnrtfa

IF this story is true, it's probably well past the statute of limitations. She said she was a child when it happened and now she's a grandmother.


I agree that it's probably well outside the statute of limitations, but I did meet someone in their upper 30s a few weeks ago that is a grandmother.
 
2014-05-16 10:17:15 AM  
Why would a psychopath bother with a fake help website?
 
2014-05-16 10:17:30 AM  
It's all ok because she was bullied by someone.
 
2014-05-16 10:18:03 AM  

Revek: Why would a psychopath bother with a fake help website?


For fake help obviously
 
2014-05-16 10:18:11 AM  
:|
 
2014-05-16 10:19:50 AM  
Dear Prudence,

Everyone knows the letters people write to you are fake.

How the fark do you keep getting greenlit on Fark?
 
2014-05-16 10:21:16 AM  

gfid: Dear Prudence,

Everyone knows the letters people write to you are fake.

How the fark do you keep getting greenlit on Fark?


I think these are like food threads, a place where we can let our opinions run around and stretch.
 
2014-05-16 10:22:03 AM  

rumpelstiltskin: I call bullshiat. If she's a grandmother, she's probably older than I am, and when I was a kid if your teacher saw fit to whoop you your parents didn't complain. They figured you must have deserved it, and you'd be lucky if all they did was write a note thanking the teacher for doing their job.


This
 
2014-05-16 10:22:54 AM  
What a little biatch. And she grew into an old coont who now wants forgiveness.
 
2014-05-16 10:23:43 AM  

rumpelstiltskin: I call bullshiat. If she's a grandmother, she's probably older than I am, and when I was a kid if your teacher saw fit to whoop you your parents didn't complain. They figured you must have deserved it, and you'd be lucky if all they did was write a note thanking the teacher for doing their job.


Theoretically she could be a grandmother in her late-20's
 
2014-05-16 10:25:37 AM  

rumpelstiltskin: I call bullshiat. If she's a grandmother, she's probably older than I am, and when I was a kid if your teacher saw fit to whoop you your parents didn't complain. They figured you must have deserved it, and you'd be lucky if all they did was write a note thanking the teacher for doing their job.


or not kicking your ass again.
 
2014-05-16 10:26:31 AM  
It was worse if you went to a school taught by nuns.  They would call your parents at night to tell them why you got you ass kicked and the parents would add a few smacks because a bride-of-Christ said you were bad.
 
2014-05-16 10:28:27 AM  
Dear Guilty:

Pinch yourself on the arm, kiss your grandchildren goodbye, then jump off the nearest bridge.

--Fomby
 
2014-05-16 10:28:54 AM  
Relax Granny.  Teach died long ago, unemployable, broken, drunk, and homeless.
 
2014-05-16 10:28:58 AM  
Hopefully the teacher will read the column, track down the writer and forgive her, on the 28th stab to the chest.
 
2014-05-16 10:29:24 AM  

rumpelstiltskin: I call bullshiat. If she's a grandmother, she's probably older than I am, and when I was a kid if your teacher saw fit to whoop you your parents didn't complain. They figured you must have deserved it, and you'd be lucky if all they did was write a note thanking the teacher for doing their job.


Not if she's Mexican. She could be a 16-year-old grandma.
 
2014-05-16 10:29:37 AM  

rumpelstiltskin: I call bullshiat. If she's a grandmother, she's probably older than I am, and when I was a kid if your teacher saw fit to whoop you your parents didn't complain. They figured you must have deserved it, and you'd be lucky if all they did was write a note thanking the teacher for doing their job.


How old are you. I'm in my 40s and some of my classmates are grandparents. And teachers weren't allowed to whomp on us in school.
 
2014-05-16 10:29:59 AM  
More shocked by the letter that lady wrote about pushing her husband's orphan sister out of the nest.

What a cold, heartless, unfeeling biatch.  This isn't a pound puppy for Christ's sake.
 
2014-05-16 10:30:20 AM  
Assuming that she's regular grandmother age (I'm assuming 60s), I have a hard time believing that a teacher would be fired or at risk for criminal charges for pinching a student back when she was a schoolgirl.  Mild corporal punishment in schools was pretty common in the US until at least the late 60s.
 
2014-05-16 10:31:09 AM  
The best reply would've of been "You should kill yourself.  It's the only way to restore honor to your family".  Actually, that's often the best answer to the questions in her column.
 
2014-05-16 10:33:22 AM  
And reason 423 why I don't teach in K12.
 
2014-05-16 10:33:40 AM  

naughtyrev: I prefer the next letter about the guy intentionally showing his junk and claiming he left his fly down

It is not a typical man habit for your husband to forget to zip his zipper

Indeed it is strange that when your friends are hanging out at your home, your husband is there on the couch, hanging out.


I know the letters are fake, but sometimes I wonder whether Prudie is a real person with actual life experiences, or if the Emily persona is just a double-bluff.
 
2014-05-16 10:35:20 AM  
You already know, Guilty, that what you did happened so long ago that there is little likelihood you could find this teacher-and I don't think you should start searching. After she left your school, the chances are that she developed an addiction to drugs or alcohol and ended up broken, destitute and lonely.
 
2014-05-16 10:35:43 AM  

darwinpolice: Assuming that she's regular grandmother age (I'm assuming 60s), I have a hard time believing that a teacher would be fired or at risk for criminal charges for pinching a student back when she was a schoolgirl.  Mild corporal punishment in schools was pretty common in the US until at least the late 60s.


Corporal punishment is still perfectly legal in about half the country. Back in the 60s, a teacher getting fired for pinching a student would be extremely unusual.
 
2014-05-16 10:35:56 AM  

rumpelstiltskin: I call bullshiat. If she's a grandmother, she's probably older than I am, and when I was a kid if your teacher saw fit to whoop you your parents didn't complain. They figured you must have deserved it, and you'd be lucky if all they did was write a note thanking the teacher for doing their job.


For real when I was in 5th grade I had a teacher that would throw things at the kids or smack the back of their heads. She I'm sure stayed on for many a year till retirement. That was in the 80's.
 
2014-05-16 10:37:18 AM  
If true, she's earned her right to a pre-mortem funeral pyre.
 
2014-05-16 10:37:37 AM  

rumpelstiltskin: I call bullshiat. If she's a grandmother, she's probably older than I am, and when I was a kid if your teacher saw fit to whoop you your parents didn't complain. They figured you must have deserved it, and you'd be lucky if all they did was write a note thanking the teacher for doing their job.


This is what I came in to say.  My mother would have smacked me for pissing off the teacher
 
2014-05-16 10:38:33 AM  

rumpelstiltskin: I call bullshiat. If she's a grandmother, she's probably older than I am, and when I was a kid if your teacher saw fit to whoop you your parents didn't complain. They figured you must have deserved it, and you'd be lucky if all they did was write a note thanking the teacher for doing their job.


I'm 48 and it was never okay for teachers to hit kids where I grew up in the Bay Area.
 
2014-05-16 10:40:00 AM  

someonelse: rumpelstiltskin: I call bullshiat. If she's a grandmother, she's probably older than I am, and when I was a kid if your teacher saw fit to whoop you your parents didn't complain. They figured you must have deserved it, and you'd be lucky if all they did was write a note thanking the teacher for doing their job.

How old are you. I'm in my 40s and some of my classmates are grandparents. And teachers weren't allowed to whomp on us in school.


I'm 42.  I got corporal punishment for sure and my mom told me what I got at school I'd get twice as bad at home.
 
2014-05-16 10:42:35 AM  
In the late 60s and early 70s, we got spanked regularly. We deserved it.  And we liked it.
 
2014-05-16 10:45:45 AM  
Anybody remember the episode of the TV show "Sliders" where the characters couldn't lie because they all had on shock collars that would buzz them if they did?

We should do that.
 
2014-05-16 10:47:16 AM  

someonelse: How old are you. I'm in my 40s and some of my classmates are grandparents. And teachers weren't allowed to whomp on us in school.


I'm 44, don't have any classmates, and I got cracks in school more than once.
 
2014-05-16 10:47:33 AM  
Fake letter is fake, obviously. At least try and make it plausible.

I went to Catholic elementary school in the '80s and we had a nun that taught computer class. My buddy was a little dipshiat who loved to do exactly the opposite of what he was told to do. The nun was showing us how to use a computer program that required a change of the floppy disk to move forward in the program. She explicitly told us not to eject the disk while the little red light was on. So what does he do? He ejects it while the red light is on.

The nun hulked out and grabbed him by the back of the collar on his standard-issue powder blue polo shirt and flung him out of his chair to the ground. None of us were horrified. We all just had a good laugh and got back to work. Nothing ever happened to her. As far as I know, sister could still be hulking out on third graders.
 
2014-05-16 10:47:38 AM  

someonelse: rumpelstiltskin: I call bullshiat. If she's a grandmother, she's probably older than I am, and when I was a kid if your teacher saw fit to whoop you your parents didn't complain. They figured you must have deserved it, and you'd be lucky if all they did was write a note thanking the teacher for doing their job.

How old are you. I'm in my 40s and some of my classmates are grandparents. And teachers weren't allowed to whomp on us in school.


This is Fark. This is where defunct techies go for belt-onion conversations. I'm never surprised to find that someone here is 60+.
 
2014-05-16 10:48:06 AM  
Not trying to sound like that guy, but anyone ever noticed that it was no mass school shooting back when schools dished out corporal punishment
 
2014-05-16 10:48:20 AM  

draypresct: Corporal punishment


www.have-you-met-ted.com
 
2014-05-16 10:49:13 AM  

idesofmarch: Anybody remember the episode of the TV show "Sliders" where the characters couldn't lie because they all had on shock collars that would buzz them if they did?

We should do that.


I like the one where a virus killed 90% of the population with Y chromosomes and the remaining men were placed into breeding centers where they would work out, sleep and fark. I've been trying to develop that bio weapon (and a small supply of the vaccine) but have yet succeed.
 
2014-05-16 10:49:24 AM  
Catholic School, Midwest, 1977 - warming up my trumpet in band class... accidentally blared out a loud sound... Sister Susanna marched over and smacked the bell of the horn... hard! mouthpiece-lip-smash... good times!
 
2014-05-16 10:50:54 AM  

idesofmarch: Anybody remember the episode of the TV show "Sliders" where the characters couldn't lie because they all had on shock collars that would buzz them if they did?

We should do that.


I try to avoid any rules that would prevent people from hiding Jews in the attic.
 
2014-05-16 10:51:16 AM  

techgeek07: The best reply would've of been "You should kill yourself.  It's the only way to restore honor to your family".  Actually, that's often the best answer to the questions in her column.


You shall now get a beating from the grammar nazi.
 
2014-05-16 10:51:49 AM  

naughtyrev: I prefer the next letter about the guy intentionally showing his junk and claiming he left his fly down


I found it funny in a disturbing kinda way. Sounds like the guy is really proud of it. Seem to me most women really don't want to see it.
 
2014-05-16 10:51:56 AM  

techgeek07: The best reply would've of been "You should kill yourself.  It's the only way to restore honor to your family".  Actually, that's often the best answer to the questions in her column.


i1.ytimg.com
 
2014-05-16 10:52:03 AM  
Late-60's my elementary school principal carried a ping-pong paddle in his back pocket. "Boys, grab your ankles!"
 
2014-05-16 10:53:12 AM  

AugieDoggyDaddy: Relax Granny.  Teach died long ago, unemployable, broken, drunk, and homeless.


At least she/he had some booze to assuage her pain.
 
2014-05-16 10:53:48 AM  

rumpelstiltskin: I call bullshiat. If she's a grandmother, she's probably older than I am, and when I was a kid if your teacher saw fit to whoop you your parents didn't complain. They figured you must have deserved it, and you'd be lucky if all they did was write a note thanking the teacher for doing their job.


I saw Misses Graham whack Cris Burning's ass with a frat boy paddle several times.  Each whack knocked Chris off his feet.  It was a small school and everyone had to have heard those whacks.  I prayed to every god I could think of that if they got me in to the non-Mrs Graham fourth grade, I'd be a priest, a rabbi or a buddist monk.  Who ever took the credit got me.  Fourth Grade:  Mrs. Graham.  Sat me in the front row right in front of that damn paddle.  That year, the world lost a priest, rabbi and or buddist monk.

The only thing I took away from that class is that Mrs Graham thought the peace sign (just gaining in popularity) was a broken cross which indicated no god.  Had I used that to my advantage, I would have wound up in the hallway getting whacked with a huge frat boy paddle by a monster sized woman.  My previous transgressions had mainly been sneaking out of school early but she stuck me front and center and convinced me that school wasn't voluntary and I wasn't allowed to leave when I got my fill.

On library days, get in line, let the teacher count noses.  Step out of the line and leave.  After lunch, there was a formation in the hall or outside.  Wait for the teacher to count the noses, step in to the alcove of a classroom and let them pass.  Out the door, across the street and in to the forest preserve.  When you hear the school busses, go home.  The perfect crime and I was neither a PITA in class or a vocal know-it-all so I blended in.  The perfect crime until the 4th grade.  Mrs. Graham:  Harry, lead your row back to class.  While the school would never miss one kid in 1966, if I had led a line of kids out of the school, some one would have noticed.
 
2014-05-16 10:54:39 AM  
I was looking at Emily's mouth, and I think I would let her give me a "hummer", and it would be a good one.  I know that's got nothing to do with the story, but, I just wanted to mention that, because I like to share my thoughts.

I believe I'm a very interesting fellow.
 
2014-05-16 10:55:04 AM  
These threads are for us to practice our creative writing skills.

Dear Prudence,

I'm a narcoleptic, nymphomaniac midget with a little Thanksgiving problem.  There's just something about the presentation of the Thanksgiving turkey with it's sexy legs all trussed up and it's cavity-vagina just calling to me, I can't help but jump up on the table and go to town.  The problem is that almost instantly after the deed is finished (I'm so worked up this is usually no longer than 30 seconds), my narcolepsy kicks in and I pass out half naked on the feast beast.  My question is, do you think if I drank a lot of coffee right before the turkey came out of the oven that I could stay awake long enough to sneak away after I came in it?  Also, I've got a little problem I picked up from a dead diseased transformer in Thailand a couple years ago.  Is it proper etiquette to wear a condom or do I need to notify everyone at dinner next year?

Thanks,

The Turkey Tiddler
 
2014-05-16 10:55:05 AM  

kbronsito: idesofmarch: Anybody remember the episode of the TV show "Sliders" where the characters couldn't lie because they all had on shock collars that would buzz them if they did?

We should do that.

I like the one where a virus killed 90% of the population with Y chromosomes and the remaining men were placed into breeding centers where they would work out, sleep and fark. I've been trying to develop that bio weapon (and a small supply of the vaccine) but have yet succeed.


I always thought if feminists really wanted the upper hand they would go all Indo-Chinese and abort female fetuses.

Cattus, glad you didn't break a tooth.
 
2014-05-16 10:55:13 AM  
And, the Beatles should sue the crap out of this charlatan.
 
2014-05-16 10:56:32 AM  

ChrisDe: In the late 60s and early 70s, we got spanked regularly. We deserved it.  And we liked PAID EXTRA FOR it.


you're welcome.
 
2014-05-16 10:58:05 AM  

Shazam999: techgeek07: The best reply would've of been "You should kill yourself.  It's the only way to restore honor to your family".  Actually, that's often the best answer to the questions in her column.

You shall now get a beating from the grammar nazi.


What if I just lie about it and get him fired first?
 
2014-05-16 10:58:28 AM  
In the 90's to early 2000's, central Louisiana had corporal punishment.  I remember being in fourth grade and having these paper slips passed around the class.  These weren't permission slips to beat your kids, they were slips to EXEMPT your kid from being physically punished.  The default position in the schools was that the teachers were allowed to paddle, grab and lift a child by the arm, and pull you around by the ear in school on through high school (though I wager it stuck with mostly paddling as the kids got taller than the teachers).

FWIW, it didn't help.  Most of the kids would return to whatever they did that initiated punishment immediately after receiving their paddling.  My parents signed the form, and punished me at home.  I would rather have had the paddling at school.
 
2014-05-16 10:59:53 AM  
FTFA: "Sometimes accusers make things up, and that sometimes people who proclaim their innocence are telling the truth."

Even when they dress funny.

Anyway.

I don't know when corporal punishment was forbidden in Baltimore City Schools, but I'm pretty sure it was illegal in my elementary school days or my 3rd grade teacher Mrs. Rigby would have slapped the white right off my rice in 1970-1. And Mr. August, the (Vice-?) Principal, would have applauded.

In 4th grade Mrs. Pelzer would crumble chalk in her claws and rage at me. And Mrs. Monocrusos, the principal of the second school they sentenced me to for 4th grade, told me I should never have been born and it'd be best for society to lock me up in an institution for the rest of my life.

In 8th grade I dropped out. There was no way anybody could make me go back there. And nobody but my parents seemed to mind.
 
2014-05-16 11:00:54 AM  

RussianPooper: rumpelstiltskin: I call bullshiat. If she's a grandmother, she's probably older than I am, and when I was a kid if your teacher saw fit to whoop you your parents didn't complain. They figured you must have deserved it, and you'd be lucky if all they did was write a note thanking the teacher for doing their job.

I'm 48 and it was never okay for teachers to hit kids where I grew up in the Bay Area.


The last two words of that statement explains why. You probably was raised and taught by some damn hippies
 
2014-05-16 11:01:29 AM  

chachi88: Late-60's my elementary school principal carried a ping-pong paddle in his back pocket. "Boys, grab your ankles!"


I know a football coach at Penn St that used to say that
 
2014-05-16 11:02:31 AM  

gambitsgirl: someonelse: rumpelstiltskin: I call bullshiat. If she's a grandmother, she's probably older than I am, and when I was a kid if your teacher saw fit to whoop you your parents didn't complain. They figured you must have deserved it, and you'd be lucky if all they did was write a note thanking the teacher for doing their job.

How old are you. I'm in my 40s and some of my classmates are grandparents. And teachers weren't allowed to whomp on us in school.

I'm 42.  I got corporal punishment for sure and my mom told me what I got at school I'd get twice as bad at home.


You're pretty hot. Was your mom hot?  I might have signed up for a little of that, because I can be a very bad little boy.
 
2014-05-16 11:02:51 AM  

ChrisDe: In the late 60s and early 70s, we got spanked regularly. We deserved it.  And we liked it.


Dear Penthouse...
 
2014-05-16 11:04:26 AM  

drjekel_mrhyde: Not trying to sound like that guy, but anyone ever noticed that it was no mass school shooting back when schools dished out corporal punishment


1) Corporal punishment is still legal in half the country (see my link upthread).
2) Individual school shootings occurred more often the further back you go. Overall, schools have lower homicide rates.

BTW: if you have a source that goes back further than the ones I found, please let me know. Statistics geek here - always on the lookout for good sources.
 
2014-05-16 11:04:55 AM  

naughtyrev: I prefer the next letter about the guy intentionally showing his junk and claiming he left his fly down


Oh, should I not be.doing that?
 
2014-05-16 11:08:50 AM  
I'm 37. My first-grade teacher used to wait for kids to start fiddling with stuff inside their desks by opening the lids (or desk tops) only a little bit and then she'd sit on top of the desks, smashing kids' fingers between the desk tops and the desk base.

Then she'd pretend to be confused about what happened.

It was frightening.
 
2014-05-16 11:09:40 AM  

baufan2005: naughtyrev: I prefer the next letter about the guy intentionally showing his junk and claiming he left his fly down

Oh, should I not be.doing that?


Especially when you wander into the women's restroom.  You should know, that's frowned upon in some states.
 
2014-05-16 11:12:09 AM  

FarkingReading: I'm 37. My first-grade teacher used to wait for kids to start fiddling with stuff inside their desks by opening the lids (or desk tops) only a little bit and then she'd sit on top of the desks, smashing kids' fingers between the desk tops and the desk base.

Then she'd pretend to be confused about what happened.

It was frightening.


Where was her first teaching job, Auschwitz?
 
2014-05-16 11:13:02 AM  

Wangiss: idesofmarch: Anybody remember the episode of the TV show "Sliders" where the characters couldn't lie because they all had on shock collars that would buzz them if they did?

We should do that.

I try to avoid any rules that would prevent people from hiding Jews in the attic.


That's an interesting thought, but I'd like to think that if people couldn't lie to mobs of morons, they couldn't instill blind hatred so convincingly.  I wish the episode had explored those implications, instead of 'They have lie collars... and now they're stuck in Jurassic Park.'
 
2014-05-16 11:13:09 AM  
Uh, where exactly was the bruise?

That may have been the issue. Let's say she was riding a boy's bike and slipped off the seat, even back when I was in  school (1970's) that would have caused issues.

But...This sounds more like a Penthouse letter than the real thing.
 
2014-05-16 11:14:13 AM  

RussianPooper: rumpelstiltskin: I call bullshiat. If she's a grandmother, she's probably older than I am, and when I was a kid if your teacher saw fit to whoop you your parents didn't complain. They figured you must have deserved it, and you'd be lucky if all they did was write a note thanking the teacher for doing their job.

I'm 48 and it was never okay for teachers to hit kids where I grew up in the Bay Area.


I went to grammer school at Haws in Redwood City and then Antioch in South SF in the early 80's. Principal had a cricket bat with holes drilled in it.
 
2014-05-16 11:15:10 AM  
Roughing The Snapper:

I went to Catholic elementary school in the '80s and we had a nun that taught computer class.

Was she very old or very foreign? I seem to recall reading years ago that almost no young women were going into nunneries and they had to import nuns from 3rd world countries where the Church was still strong and women were still desperate.

A 2012 Reuters article says "There are more nuns over age 90 than there are under age 60, according to the Center for Applied Research in the Apostolate at Georgetown University." That probably hasn't changed much in the past two years.

These days Catholic women would rather be priests instead. Instead of Episcopalian or atheist, for some reason: concerning the RC Church the best way to accomplish things like improve the role of women, the conduct of the clergy and the dogmatism of the Holy See would be for everybody who doesn't like the Church to leave it.
 
2014-05-16 11:16:23 AM  
kbronsito:

Not if she's Mexican. She could be a 16-year-old grandma.

That's not only racist, it's biologically impossible.
 
2014-05-16 11:18:58 AM  

The One True TheDavid: kbronsito:

Not if she's Mexican. She could be a 16-year-old grandma.

That's not only racist, it's biologically impossible.


You don't many Mexicans do you?
 
2014-05-16 11:21:22 AM  
I preferred the next letter where the husband whips his dick out whenever the wife has friends over.... I'd expect this story to be on the news soon and linked from Fark.

And the following one about the sister... that's just pathetic.. they give the girl a home after the death of the parents, and now.. GTFO? If that sister was as nice as what was the impression I got, this woman should remove her head from her ass and realize that this kid is part of the family, and so should be happy to have her around... The kid isn't even going to be around for most of the time and such, leave her with the knowledge that she had a home and was wanted instead of this crap.  The husband (the brother) really needs to biatch his wife out and get her to put herself in the kid's shoes and see how that feels like.
 
2014-05-16 11:22:43 AM  
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2014-05-16 11:25:10 AM  

The One True TheDavid: Roughing The Snapper:

I went to Catholic elementary school in the '80s and we had a nun that taught computer class.

Was she very old or very foreign?


She was in her 50s I would guess. So she'd be in that 80-90 range now.

We had another one about the same age that would prowl the cafeteria at lunch time on the hunt for perpetrators of various nonsense. Once she sniffed out her prey, she would sneak up from behind and perform a two-handed variation of the Vulcan neck pinch while smiling and engaging in small-talk with the other kids at the table She would just stand there chatting while the offender was paralysed. When she decided the kid had had enough, she'd say her goodbyes and continued the hunt.
 
2014-05-16 11:26:02 AM  
I had a Spanish teacher who had once had to take Lance Armstrong (that one) in to the principal's office for corporal punishment.

Apparently he thought it was funny to "cough" and say a curse word. And he didn't know when to stop.
 
2014-05-16 11:26:16 AM  

The One True TheDavid: Roughing The Snapper:

I went to Catholic elementary school in the '80s and we had a nun that taught computer class.

Was she very old or very foreign? I seem to recall reading years ago that almost no young women were going into nunneries and they had to import nuns from 3rd world countries where the Church was still strong and women were still desperate.

A 2012 Reuters article says "There are more nuns over age 90 than there are under age 60, according to the Center for Applied Research in the Apostolate at Georgetown University." That probably hasn't changed much in the past two years.

These days Catholic women would rather be priests instead. Instead of Episcopalian or atheist, for some reason: concerning the RC Church the best way to accomplish things like improve the role of women, the conduct of the clergy and the dogmatism of the Holy See would be for everybody who doesn't like the Church to leave it.


Good!  Hope the whole thing dies out.  Nothing but a bunch of repressed pyschos, who were probably lesbians, but, just could wrap their holy jane minds around the concept and admit it, and took their frustrations out on the kids.  The Sisters of Mercy had no mercy.  Yeah, I know I was a major pain in the ass when I was a kid, but still they were insane.
 
2014-05-16 11:29:40 AM  
What I like about these letters is the realism.
 
2014-05-16 11:30:29 AM  

Wangiss: someonelse: rumpelstiltskin: I call bullshiat. If she's a grandmother, she's probably older than I am, and when I was a kid if your teacher saw fit to whoop you your parents didn't complain. They figured you must have deserved it, and you'd be lucky if all they did was write a note thanking the teacher for doing their job.

How old are you. I'm in my 40s and some of my classmates are grandparents. And teachers weren't allowed to whomp on us in school.

This is Fark. This is where defunct techies go for belt-onion conversations. I'm never surprised to find that someone here is 60+.


Really? I'm surprised when they're over 40. But then I'm a very mature 51.


Wangiss: idesofmarch: Anybody remember the episode of the TV show "Sliders" where the characters couldn't lie because they all had on shock collars that would buzz them if they did?

We should do that.

I try to avoid any rules that would prevent people from hiding Jews in the attic.


I don't favorite Farkers but if I did I would favorite you.

By the way, did they ever find the plane?


Mid_mo_mad_man: The One True TheDavid: kbronsito:

Not if she's Mexican. She could be a 16-year-old grandma.

That's not only racist, it's biologically impossible.

You don't many Mexicans do you?


There's a trailer park full of then three blocks from here, and my friendly little pedopup likes to hang out near the elementary school when classes are letting out. I have yet to see a Latino mother of school-age kids who's under 20, let alone a grandma.

IIRC the average age of menarche is 12; you'd have a hard time finding a granny who's under 26, even in your family.
 
2014-05-16 11:33:43 AM  

idesofmarch: Wangiss: idesofmarch: Anybody remember the episode of the TV show "Sliders" where the characters couldn't lie because they all had on shock collars that would buzz them if they did?

We should do that.

I try to avoid any rules that would prevent people from hiding Jews in the attic.

That's an interesting thought, but I'd like to think that if people couldn't lie to mobs of morons, they couldn't instill blind hatred so convincingly.  I wish the episode had explored those implications, instead of 'They have lie collars... and now they're stuck in Jurassic Park.'


Tribalist feelings of hatred and exclusion aren't detectable as lies.
The only way to even attempt prevent those is with an unfortunately arbitrary system of morals.
And you may notice we don't really do very well with those.
 
2014-05-16 11:36:31 AM  

Mid_mo_mad_man: The One True TheDavid: kbronsito:

Not if she's Mexican. She could be a 16-year-old grandma.

That's not only racist, it's biologically impossible.

You don't many Mexicans do you?


The half-Mexican-half-Cubana my age at my church had breasts at 9.
 
2014-05-16 11:37:56 AM  

Wangiss: I always thought if feminists really wanted the upper hand they would go all Indo-Chinese and abort female fetuses.


Nah. Backwards. Make males scarce and keep us locked in basements. As for fertilization, ever see A Boy And His Dog?

All a scarcity of women would get around here is mass rapes of women (and probably boys too). It wouldn't take long to breed more females.
 
2014-05-16 11:38:23 AM  

Mid_mo_mad_man: The One True TheDavid: kbronsito:

Not if she's Mexican. She could be a 16-year-old grandma.

That's not only racist, it's biologically impossible.

You don't many Mexicans do you?


You don't know many Mexicans do you?
 
2014-05-16 11:43:15 AM  

Wangiss: Mid_mo_mad_man: The One True TheDavid: kbronsito:

Not if she's Mexican. She could be a 16-year-old grandma.

That's not only racist, it's biologically impossible.

You don't many Mexicans do you?

The half-Mexican-half-Cubana my age at my church had breasts at 9.


Breasts aren't what's relevant. She still probably didn't bleed till she was 12 or so, and the ability to actually get pregnant and carry to term takes a few months or a year.

So you'd have had about three years of safe experimentation, along with her brothers, her cousins and the old man next door.
 
2014-05-16 11:43:44 AM  

Wangiss: Mid_mo_mad_man: The One True TheDavid: kbronsito:

Not if she's Mexican. She could be a 16-year-old grandma.

That's not only racist, it's biologically impossible.

You don't many Mexicans do you?

The half-Mexican-half-Cubana my age at my church had breasts at 9.


My wife is half Irish and half Mexican from a family of ten. She has nine sisters. They all had at least d cups by 12.

/ Not that I've noticed
 
2014-05-16 11:46:26 AM  

Por que tan serioso: RussianPooper: rumpelstiltskin: I call bullshiat. If she's a grandmother, she's probably older than I am, and when I was a kid if your teacher saw fit to whoop you your parents didn't complain. They figured you must have deserved it, and you'd be lucky if all they did was write a note thanking the teacher for doing their job.

I'm 48 and it was never okay for teachers to hit kids where I grew up in the Bay Area.

I went to grammer school at Haws in Redwood City and then Antioch in South SF in the early 80's. Principal had a cricket bat with holes drilled in it.


My 6th grade middle school social studies teacher (around 1985) had a wall of paddles of different sizes and shapes that were used for "birthday paddling" (you at least go to pick which one).   He did a lot of "oddball" things though... I remember him sticking one kid who was kind of weird/spazzy in his office (connected to the classroom with a glass window in between) and put a sticky note on the window saying something like "Don't feed the animals" or something alluding to that he was on "display".

My grade school principal also did "birthday spankings".

/teachers got away with a lot more stuff before the 90s
 
2014-05-16 11:49:38 AM  

Mid_mo_mad_man: Mid_mo_mad_man: The One True TheDavid: kbronsito:

Not if she's Mexican. She could be a 16-year-old grandma.

That's not only racist, it's biologically impossible.

You don't many Mexicans do you?

You don't know many Mexicans do you?


And as far as biologically impossible, in most cases yes... but.... 5 is the youngest documented...  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_youngest_birth_mothers
 
2014-05-16 11:50:05 AM  

Mid_mo_mad_man: Mid_mo_mad_man: The One True TheDavid: kbronsito:

Not if she's Mexican. She could be a 16-year-old grandma.

That's not only racist, it's biologically impossible.

You don't many Mexicans do you?

You don't know many Mexicans do you?


That was weird.

The One True TheDavid: I don't favorite Farkers but if I did I would favorite you.

By the way, did they ever find the plane?


Yes, but they had to hire a deaf and blind girl to find it. Something about heightened extrasensory perception.

And thanks for the compliment, but the Jews-in-the-Attic test is the brainchild of one Joe Huffman. I completely agreed with it even before I read it; it's just a very elegant way to say it. One-liners that get the whole point across are few and far between.

CSB:
My boss, after his farewell lunch from this company, said in a casual conversation that it would be great to have RFID chips in everybody. He said he knows it's not popular, but it would make crimes provable in nearly every case and thus free us from a lot of uncertainty that makes life difficult and people unsafe. I said that when you have that degree of accuracy it's easy for the overclass to make rules about every moment of your life that hew only to their own convenient ethic contrivances. He didn't get it. That week I found the post about the Jews in the Attic test. I really wish I'd been able to say "Well, that's one way to keep the Jews out of people's attics." Oh well.
/CSB
 
2014-05-16 11:50:27 AM  

Por que tan serioso: RussianPooper: rumpelstiltskin: I call bullshiat. If she's a grandmother, she's probably older than I am, and when I was a kid if your teacher saw fit to whoop you your parents didn't complain. They figured you must have deserved it, and you'd be lucky if all they did was write a note thanking the teacher for doing their job.

I'm 48 and it was never okay for teachers to hit kids where I grew up in the Bay Area.

I went to grammer school at Haws in Redwood City and then Antioch in South SF in the early 80's. Principal had a cricket bat with holes drilled in it.


Did he ever use it, or was it just an objet d'initimidation?

Anyway, I went to school in Saratoga and Cupertino. That probably explains it.
 
2014-05-16 11:51:22 AM  

The One True TheDavid: Wangiss: Mid_mo_mad_man: The One True TheDavid: kbronsito:

Not if she's Mexican. She could be a 16-year-old grandma.

That's not only racist, it's biologically impossible.

You don't many Mexicans do you?

The half-Mexican-half-Cubana my age at my church had breasts at 9.

Breasts aren't what's relevant. She still probably didn't bleed till she was 12 or so, and the ability to actually get pregnant and carry to term takes a few months or a year.

So you'd have had about three years of safe experimentation, along with her brothers, her cousins and the old man next door.


She was menstruating at 9 as well. Chicks talk about everything. They just keep talking. It's like Fark IRL.
 
2014-05-16 11:53:29 AM  

Wangiss: The One True TheDavid: Wangiss: Mid_mo_mad_man: The One True TheDavid: kbronsito:

Not if she's Mexican. She could be a 16-year-old grandma.

That's not only racist, it's biologically impossible.

You don't many Mexicans do you?

The half-Mexican-half-Cubana my age at my church had breasts at 9.

Breasts aren't what's relevant. She still probably didn't bleed till she was 12 or so, and the ability to actually get pregnant and carry to term takes a few months or a year.

So you'd have had about three years of safe experimentation, along with her brothers, her cousins and the old man next door.

She was menstruating at 9 as well. Chicks talk about everything. They just keep talking. It's like Fark IRL.


Women gossiping? That's crazy talk.
 
2014-05-16 11:54:57 AM  

drjekel_mrhyde: Not trying to sound like that guy, but anyone ever noticed that it was no mass school shooting back when schools dished out corporal punishment


This!!!
 
2014-05-16 11:54:59 AM  
The only time a teacher ever touched me was in health class. We were watching a movie and the guy sitting behind me kept flicking my ear and farking with me, after a few dirty looks and a "stop it" I hit him. Well the teacher was in the back of the class and saw this, he came over and grabbed me by the shoulders. I thought it was the kid and took a swing at him. I'm glad I pulled my punch when I realized who it was. Failed that farking class ugh pissed me off so much.
 
2014-05-16 12:02:54 PM  
You feel bad? Good you should feel bad.
 
2014-05-16 12:04:25 PM  

TwowheelinTim: naughtyrev: I prefer the next letter about the guy intentionally showing his junk and claiming he left his fly down

I found it funny in a disturbing kinda way. Sounds like the guy is really proud of it. Seem to me most women really don't want to see it.


I'm reminded of that Seinfeld episode where Kramer says something like "it's like a whale, it's gotta come up for air!"
 
2014-05-16 12:12:56 PM  

The One True TheDavid: kbronsito:

Not if she's Mexican. She could be a 16-year-old grandma.

That's not only racist, it's biologically impossible.


thank god for your superior insights into both biology and Mexicans. Do you list "living next to a trailer park full of Mexicans" on your resume? In our diverse society, these special skills and knowledge are highly valued by employers.
 
2014-05-16 12:20:01 PM  

gambitsgirl: someonelse: rumpelstiltskin: I call bullshiat. If she's a grandmother, she's probably older than I am, and when I was a kid if your teacher saw fit to whoop you your parents didn't complain. They figured you must have deserved it, and you'd be lucky if all they did was write a note thanking the teacher for doing their job.

How old are you. I'm in my 40s and some of my classmates are grandparents. And teachers weren't allowed to whomp on us in school.

I'm 42.  I got corporal punishment for sure and my mom told me what I got at school I'd get twice as bad at home.


I'm 45. It was a big deal when I was in grade school that corporal punishment was abolished.

/that was in Canada
 
2014-05-16 12:33:25 PM  
HOLD ON ONE MINUTE!!!  Did she let slip that she's now a GRANDMOTHER! (twice)?  Because I think that changes everything!  After all, if it was somebody's dear sweet old grandpa that was a murdering coward of a guard at Dachau or a brutal commandant at a Japanese POW camp in Burma, we'd forgive and forget, right?  Right?!
 
2014-05-16 12:37:51 PM  

rumpelstiltskin: I call bullshiat. If she's a grandmother, she's probably older than I am, and when I was a kid if your teacher saw fit to whoop you your parents didn't complain. They figured you must have deserved it, and you'd be lucky if all they did was write a note thanking the teacher for doing their job.


Thank you.  When I was in 5th grade (around '75) my music teacher stood me up in front of the class and beat my ass with a yard stick until it broke then grabbed me by my ear and yanked me all the way down the hall to the principal's office.  Mom got pissed, but nothing was every done to anyone.  That's how we did it old school.
 
2014-05-16 12:45:11 PM  
I grew up in PA where many of the teachers were also coaches.  I was in a study hall with a football coach/math teacher who had an absolute silence rule.  A kid asked me what page the homework was on and I said "33" or whatever.  He brought me out in the hall, grabbed me by the neck and slammed the back of my head into the tile wall.  Total moronic dickhead.  Nobody got told about it or sued.
 
2014-05-16 12:56:48 PM  
So apparently our schools are (or at least were) run by a bunch of aggressive psychopaths. So of course it goes without saying that the letters in Dear Prudence are fake.
 
2014-05-16 12:57:17 PM  

someonelse: rumpelstiltskin: I call bullshiat. If she's a grandmother, she's probably older than I am, and when I was a kid if your teacher saw fit to whoop you your parents didn't complain. They figured you must have deserved it, and you'd be lucky if all they did was write a note thanking the teacher for doing their job.

How old are you. I'm in my 40s and some of my classmates are grandparents. And teachers weren't allowed to whomp on us in school.


I'm also in my 40's and up until 8th grade teachers could whomp the heck out of you (i.e., paddling). You must have gone to the pacifist school (lucky you).

/no, I was never paddled but I did witness that sort of thing waaaaay too many times.
 
2014-05-16 12:58:19 PM  

naughtyrev: scottydoesntknow: PreMortem: If the story is true, which I doubt any dear prudence is, the details should be handed over to law enforcement to identify the idiot.


/dnrtfa

IF this story is true, it's probably well past the statute of limitations. She said she was a child when it happened and now she's a grandmother.

I agree that it's probably well outside the statute of limitations, but I did meet someone in their upper 30s a few weeks ago that is a grandmother.


I work with a woman who is 37 and has 6 kids and 4 grandkids
 
2014-05-16 01:02:19 PM  

Wangiss: Jews-in-the-Attic test is the brainchild of one Joe Huffman. I completely agreed with it even before I read it; it's just a very elegant way to say it. One-liners that get the whole point across are few and far between.


I finally found a readable example of my favorite short story of this century, Englander's "What We Talk About When We Talk About Anne Frank," courtesy of the BBC. (Warming: link to PDF.)

kbronsito: The One True TheDavid: kbronsito:

Not if she's Mexican. She could be a 16-year-old grandma.

That's not only racist, it's biologically impossible.

thank god for your superior insights into both biology and Mexicans. Do you list "living next to a trailer park full of Mexicans" on your resume? In our diverse society, these special skills and knowledge are highly valued by employers.


Excuse me for your racism. Fool.


And even with menarche at 9 she'd have to be at least 20 to be a grandma, and would still be a freak of nature. It ain't common, to say the least.
 
2014-05-16 01:02:39 PM  

chachi88: Late-60's my elementary school principal carried a ping-pong paddle in his back pocket. "Boys, grab your ankles!"


but what was the ping-pong paddle for?
 
2014-05-16 01:07:23 PM  

Cletus C.: What a little biatch. And she grew into an old coont who now wants forgiveness.


That was what struck me as the weird thing about this letter. No idea how old she is, but assume it's been 40 years since the incident at least - and she's still that pathetic little girl wanting the pat on the head and the "poor baby" from her mother. And the worst part is that rather than tell her to get over herself, Prudie just goes ahead and gives it to her.

Somewhere out there is a woman who spent the rest of her life wondering how one of the children she'd dedicated her life to helping would be such a sociopath as to trash her career like that.
 
2014-05-16 01:11:39 PM  

naughtyrev: I prefer the next letter about the guy intentionally showing his junk and claiming he left his fly down


Hey, now. That can happen to anyone. Well, not women, most of 'em anyway.
 
2014-05-16 01:14:09 PM  

James Rieper: More shocked by the letter that lady wrote about pushing her husband's orphan sister out of the nest.

What a cold, heartless, unfeeling biatch.  This isn't a pound puppy for Christ's sake.


The comments make me shake my head. An awful lot of, "Hey, my parents did that to me, what's the big deal?"

Come to think of it, I've seen that story a lot on Fark, too.

It's gotta be rough, having your parents treat you like an interruption to their life.
 
2014-05-16 01:33:04 PM  

rumpelstiltskin: I call bullshiat. If she's a grandmother, she's probably older than I am, and when I was a kid if your teacher saw fit to whoop you your parents didn't complain. They figured you must have deserved it, and you'd be lucky if all they did was write a note thanking the teacher for doing their job.


Winner! I was hit by teachers with two by fours in school. More than once. One of the offenses that lead to a 2x4 beating was calling a classmate Big Butt Bertha or something like that.

CSB: About five years later when I was on the baseball team in high school, the teacher from the Bertha incident was an assistant coach. One day he was pitching BP to me with no screen. I smacked one about three feet off the ground and it hit him square in the nads. He fell to his knees. I chuckled.
 
2014-05-16 01:41:29 PM  
She is an evil whopping coont who's BS compromises the actual suffering of the abused. Hang her high.

If someone claims the sky is falling, come down on them like an f'n hurricane.
 
2014-05-16 01:43:12 PM  

The One True TheDavid: Wangiss: Jews-in-the-Attic test is the brainchild of one Joe Huffman. I completely agreed with it even before I read it; it's just a very elegant way to say it. One-liners that get the whole point across are few and far between.

I finally found a readable example of my favorite short story of this century, Englander's "What We Talk About When We Talk About Anne Frank," courtesy of the BBC. (Warming: link to PDF.)

kbronsito: The One True TheDavid: kbronsito:

Not if she's Mexican. She could be a 16-year-old grandma.

That's not only racist, it's biologically impossible.

thank god for your superior insights into both biology and Mexicans. Do you list "living next to a trailer park full of Mexicans" on your resume? In our diverse society, these special skills and knowledge are highly valued by employers.

Excuse me for your racism. Fool.


And even with menarche at 9 she'd have to be at least 20 to be a grandma, and would still be a freak of nature. It ain't common, to say the least.


Idk if the Mexicans from the trailer park have let you in on this, but most hispanics take more kindly to an absurd ethnic joke about Latino stereotypes than they do take to gringos who think they know shiat because they took high school spanish and have a Mexican friend.
 
2014-05-16 01:53:34 PM  
So, whoever submitted this read the column, looked it over, saw that one of the stories was about a six year old getting her arm pinched fifty odd years ago and another was about a guy getting his peen out whenever his wife's friends come over.

And subby chose to lead with the pinched kid.

fascinating.
 
2014-05-16 01:55:26 PM  
Dear Guilty,

You seem to like wallowing in guilt and remorse over something that happened a long time ago.  I think you need to double down.  Go and find what happened to the school teacher you lied about.  If she's alive, you should make it your mission in life to tell everyone around her so they think she is the devil incarnate for what she did.  If she's not alive go kill yourself.

Hugs and giggles,

Prudence
 
2014-05-16 02:03:56 PM  
Nah... don't worry about it. You are going to hell. Too late to change that! Buh bye! Yeah... an eternity in hellfire because you decided to be a piss biatch. Enjoy!

/Too bad that I don't believe in hell... 'cos that'd be cool.
 
2014-05-16 02:07:02 PM  
When I was in third grade we had a psycho nun.  You never heard a peep or a giggle in that class.  We were learning cursive and one of her pet peeves included you putting your face to close to the paper.  So she would walk up the rows from the back and if your head was close to the paper she would hit you with a gigantic teachers edition math book.  She gave several kids a bloody nose and I swear she broke one kids nose.  Kids were too terrified to tell on her and even if we did, the parents were all on the side of the nuns/priests.

Everyone was terrified to even ask to go to the bathroom.  One day there was a horrible smell in the classroom.  A girl pooped in her pencil box and put it back in her desk because she was that terrified to ask to go to the bathroom.  That same year I ended up in the hospital with a kidney infection because I got a UTI and wouldn't drink enough water because I needed to avoid asking to use the bathroom while in her room.

She also checked your desks one a week and about every third week things got a little messy for me and she would pick my desk up over her head and shake out all the contents and you would have to gather everything up and put it back in.  If it wasn't to her satisfaction, she would do it all over again.

Of course Karma shows up on occasion even in Catholic Schools and she went off the deep end and ended up in the nut ward.  I heard later on she was not longer a nun, so I suspect she got kicked out.  Sister Agnes....what a total biatch that woman was.
 
2014-05-16 02:20:21 PM  

drjekel_mrhyde: Not trying to sound like that guy, but anyone ever noticed that it was no mass school shooting back when schools dished out corporal punishment


Well, you're "that guy".

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_school_shootings_in_the_United_ St ates#1950s

The reason "mass" has been added to the word is the fact that, on rare occasion, more than one person gets shot these days. I purport that, because we're no longer teaching our kids how to handle firearms, that we're just seeing yet another public education inadequacy. It couldn't be due to the explosive proliferation of handguns, especially handguns capable of holding more than six rounds, or the encouragement of "gun culture" in nearly every form of media - television, radio, video games, Internet, books, etc. - available and targeted specifically towards a young adult audience.

Nah, it has to be a public education inadequacy. That's the ticket.
 
2014-05-16 02:34:22 PM  
gambitsgirl: I'm 42.  I got corporal punishment for sure and my mom told me what I got at school I'd get twice as bad at home.

Sis?
 
2014-05-16 02:41:39 PM  

stir22: chachi88: Late-60's my elementary school principal carried a ping-pong paddle in his back pocket. "Boys, grab your ankles!"

but what was the ping-pong paddle for?


Wiping off the end.
 
2014-05-16 02:43:08 PM  

naughtyrev: scottydoesntknow: PreMortem: If the story is true, which I doubt any dear prudence is, the details should be handed over to law enforcement to identify the idiot.


/dnrtfa

IF this story is true, it's probably well past the statute of limitations. She said she was a child when it happened and now she's a grandmother.

I agree that it's probably well outside the statute of limitations, but I did meet someone in their upper 30s a few weeks ago that is a grandmother.


I know a 29 year old grandmother :(
 
2014-05-16 03:02:10 PM  

FormlessOne: drjekel_mrhyde: Not trying to sound like that guy, but anyone ever noticed that it was no mass school shooting back when schools dished out corporal punishment

Well, you're "that guy".

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_school_shootings_in_the_United_ St ates#1950s

The reason "mass" has been added to the word is the fact that, on rare occasion, more than one person gets shot these days. I purport that, because we're no longer teaching our kids how to handle firearms, that we're just seeing yet another public education inadequacy. It couldn't be due to the explosive proliferation of handguns, especially handguns capable of holding more than six rounds, or the encouragement of "gun culture" in nearly every form of media - television, radio, video games, Internet, books, etc. - available and targeted specifically towards a young adult audience.

Nah, it has to be a public education inadequacy. That's the ticket.


Well back in the olden days of the 70's certain transgressions, after being warned usually, resulted in getting licks from a shop-made wooden paddle. Some of the female teachers would paddle you, usually they called the science,shop teacher, or principal to administer them. Only the science teacher seemed to enjoy it. All the boys carried pocket knives, the ones old enough to drive usually had a rifle in their truck, and the only thing that ever happened was when a few of the basketball players got drunk late one night and one decided to shoot out the spotlight on the roof of the school
 
2014-05-16 03:27:19 PM  
O_o

This thread is way too full of horrible people.  Suicide? you'll burn in hell?  Track the teacher down and let her kill you?  FFS, people - it was a child that performed that act.
 
2014-05-16 03:29:02 PM  

happydude45: Only the science teacher seemed to enjoy it. All the boys carried pocket knives, the ones old enough to drive usually had a rifle in their truck, and the only thing that ever happened was when a few of the basketball players got drunk late one night and one decided to shoot out the spotlight on the roof of the school


You know what?  I think you're full of shiat.  I remember getting suspended for bringing a pocket knife to school - the boy scout kind with the fork and spoon on it.  It was probably around '76 or '77.
 
2014-05-16 03:40:16 PM  

Babwa Wawa: happydude45: Only the science teacher seemed to enjoy it. All the boys carried pocket knives, the ones old enough to drive usually had a rifle in their truck, and the only thing that ever happened was when a few of the basketball players got drunk late one night and one decided to shoot out the spotlight on the roof of the school

You know what?  I think you're full of shiat.  I remember getting suspended for bringing a pocket knife to school - the boy scout kind with the fork and spoon on it.  It was probably around '76 or '77.


Nope. This was a little country school. I graduated in 1980. You were expected to carry a pocket knife.
 
2014-05-16 03:49:21 PM  

hstein3: James Rieper: More shocked by the letter that lady wrote about pushing her husband's orphan sister out of the nest.

What a cold, heartless, unfeeling biatch.  This isn't a pound puppy for Christ's sake.

The comments make me shake my head. An awful lot of, "Hey, my parents did that to me, what's the big deal?"

Come to think of it, I've seen that story a lot on Fark, too.

It's gotta be rough, having your parents treat you like an interruption to their life.


The woman took in her husband's sister and raised her as her own for seven years.  Now that the kid is going off to college, she asked maybe the kid can give up her room in their small, crowded house and and stay with her grandparents when she comes home from college.  She asks this so that she can finally start a family with her husband, something she has put off for seven years, and she's a bad person?

I think she has done her share and more, setting the sister up to succeed in life, and deserves to be able to have her dream of her own family without feeling guilty at all.
 
2014-05-16 04:08:55 PM  
I briefly moved out of town with my dad after 6th grade, his job transferred him back home halfway through 7th. As all the magnet(smart kid) schools were full for my grade level, I had to finish the year at the neighborhood school by my grandmas. The neighborhood was in Englewood on the south side of Chicago (73rd and Hoyne to be exact). My class consisted of about %25 wanna be gangsters the same in wanna be athletes a couple of legitimately smart kids and a few full fledged thoroughbreds who were already known in the streets as people not to be trifled with. A couple actually had bodies to their name already (we had 3 16 year olds in our class)

Anywho... the teachers didn't play around, they couldn't show the slightest fear or weakness or they'd get eaten alive, our English teacher kept a big ass paddle she called "the board of education" which she didn't hesitate to use. The male teachers met us on our level though. Get slightly out of line, take a solid punch to the chest. Egregious infractions merited the same type of violation you got if you screwed up with the higher ups in your particular street organization. 2 minutes with your back to the wall and your hands behind it while the teacher and the security guard wailed away (Mr prater was a 6'3 ex wideout for Alabama and the security guard was a street legend who devoted his life to helping kids not be like him after he got out of prison) it was a very good deterrent for the kids who wanted to be good and great in keeping the hoodlums properly exercised....

/forgot what point I was trying to make
 
2014-05-16 04:24:35 PM  

FormlessOne: drjekel_mrhyde: Not trying to sound like that guy, but anyone ever noticed that it was no mass school shooting back when schools dished out corporal punishment

Well, you're "that guy".

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_school_shootings_in_the_United_ St ates#1950s

The reason "mass" has been added to the word is the fact that, on rare occasion, more than one person gets shot these days. I purport that, because we're no longer teaching our kids how to handle firearms, that we're just seeing yet another public education inadequacy. It couldn't be due to the explosive proliferation of handguns, especially handguns capable of holding more than six rounds, or the encouragement of "gun culture" in nearly every form of media - television, radio, video games, Internet, books, etc. - available and targeted specifically towards a young adult audience.

Nah, it has to be a public education inadequacy. That's the ticket.


Huh.  And here I thought they called them mass shootings because they were shooting objects that had mass.
 
2014-05-16 05:35:07 PM  

Carn: Dear Prudence,

I'm a narcoleptic, nymphomaniac midget with a little Thanksgiving problem. There's just something about the presentation of the Thanksgiving turkey with it's sexy legs all trussed up and it's cavity-vagina just calling to me, I can't help but jump up on the table and go to town. The problem is that almost instantly after the deed is finished (I'm so worked up this is usually no longer than 30 seconds), my narcolepsy kicks in and I pass out half naked on the feast beast. My question is, do you think if I drank a lot of coffee right before the turkey came out of the oven that I could stay awake long enough to sneak away after I came in it? Also, I've got a little problem I picked up from a dead diseased transformer in Thailand a couple years ago. Is it proper etiquette to wear a condom or do I need to notify everyone at dinner next year?

Thanks,

The Turkey Tiddler


Not really over the top enough for her to print.  Maybe add something about incest, Pru's a sucker for incest.
 
2014-05-16 06:44:35 PM  

The One True TheDavid: Wangiss: Jews-in-the-Attic test is the brainchild of one Joe Huffman. I completely agreed with it even before I read it; it's just a very elegant way to say it. One-liners that get the whole point across are few and far between.

I finally found a readable example of my favorite short story of this century, Englander's "What We Talk About When We Talk About Anne Frank," courtesy of the BBC. (Warming: link to PDF.)



Thanks for the link. It was a good read. But fergoonessake how many title pages does a book need? I'm on page 11 before the book begins.
 
2014-05-16 07:08:52 PM  
bibli0phile:

I know a 29 year old grandmother :(

Is she cute?
 
2014-05-16 07:13:15 PM  

Babwa Wawa: I remember getting suspended for bringing a pocket knife to school - the boy scout kind with the fork and spoon on it. It was probably around '76 or '77.


In 1976 was suspended for dropping a literal penknife, a tiny folding thing with a 1.5" blade and no point. It was great for sharpening pencils, cutting twine, opening envelopes, etc., but if I pulled it on somebody he'd laugh till he peed himself. But it's the principle that counts, said Principal Sharrow.
 
2014-05-16 07:51:29 PM  

AverageAmericanGuy: The subtext is obvious. Telling someone Lying about what your teacher is doing to you will ruin their life and you will feel bad about for the rest of yours.


Fixed.
 
2014-05-16 08:22:35 PM  

darwinpolice: Assuming that she's regular grandmother age (I'm assuming 60s), I have a hard time believing that a teacher would be fired or at risk for criminal charges for pinching a student back when she was a schoolgirl.  Mild corporal punishment in schools was pretty common in the US until at least the late 60s.


Maybe it depends on where the bruise was.
 
2014-05-16 10:20:10 PM  

orbister: AverageAmericanGuy: The subtext is obvious. Telling someone Lying about what your teacher is doing to you will ruin their life and you will feel bad about for the rest of yours.

Fixed.


That's not the subtext at all.

0_o
 
2014-05-16 11:49:59 PM  

AverageAmericanGuy: orbister: AverageAmericanGuy: The subtext is obvious. Telling someone Lying about what your teacher is doing to you will ruin their life and you will feel bad about for the rest of yours.

Fixed.

That's not the subtext at all.

0_o


I don't think orbister knows the meaning of subtext.   But that's OK.  From each according to his capability.
 
2014-05-17 12:04:08 AM  

rumpelstiltskin: I call bullshiat. If she's a grandmother, she's probably older than I am, and when I was a kid if your teacher saw fit to whoop you your parents didn't complain. They figured you must have deserved it, and you'd be lucky if all they did was write a note thanking the teacher for doing their job.


So true. Many moons ago I was on a field trip with a school sanctioned YMCA trip when one of the group leaders came up behind me and biatch-slapped me hard on the right side of the head. I mean real hard, ears ringing for the rest of the day. Turns out he meant that for someone else that was goofing off, I was just listening to what our guide was saying and not doing anything else. Told my folks about that, attitude was I must have done something to deserve it.
 
2014-05-17 12:33:15 AM  
I'm 38, and when I was in junior high, there was a VP of Discipline.  If you got sent to his office, he gave you a choice: you could take after-school detention, or you could take "licks" from a hefty wooden paddle.  Most guys took the paddling instead of having to explain to their parents why they had to stay late.
 
2014-05-17 07:04:00 PM  

The One True TheDavid: kbronsito:

Not if she's Mexican. She could be a 16-year-old grandma.

That's not only racist, it's biologically impossible.


http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_youngest_birth_mothers

Nope...
 
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