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(Space.com)   Not to be outdone by SpaceX, Russia demonstrates a rocket with Return to Earth capability   (space.com) divider line 24
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2014-05-15 11:50:54 PM
It's a bit depressing that we still have to rely on these guys for some of our space launches.
 
2014-05-15 11:52:59 PM
The CIA sabotaged it.
 
2014-05-15 11:54:51 PM
Something hits that rocket from the right at :47, as Triumph pointed out
 
2014-05-16 12:08:29 AM
SpaceX Dragon Rider will be taking astronauts to ISS by 2016.
 
2014-05-16 12:47:18 AM
Many brave Kerbals died for this.
 
2014-05-16 12:59:46 AM
A business card from Dmitry Yarosh was found at the smouldering crash site along with crisp dollar bills.
 
2014-05-16 05:44:56 AM

MaudlinMutantMollusk: Something hits that rocket from the right at :47, as Triumph pointed out


It actually hits around :50. It appears from the right edge of the screen at :47 and moves left. You have to watch it full screen to see it.
 
2014-05-16 07:18:28 AM
Either they've been playing too much KSP, or not enough.

/Is there such a thing as "too much KSP"?
//OMG KERBALS!
 
2014-05-16 07:26:51 AM
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2014-05-16 07:27:41 AM

Triumph: MaudlinMutantMollusk: Something hits that rocket from the right at :47, as Triumph pointed out

It actually hits around :50. It appears from the right edge of the screen at :47 and moves left. You have to watch it full screen to see it.


somebody forgot to turn off the air to air missile battery.  whoopsie-daisy!
 
2014-05-16 08:22:03 AM
Should have used more struts
 
2014-05-16 08:31:00 AM
Yeah, and they have a bunch of them programmed to return right into our major cities.
 
2014-05-16 08:47:03 AM

Triumph: MaudlinMutantMollusk: Something hits that rocket from the right at :47, as Triumph pointed out

It actually hits around :50. It appears from the right edge of the screen at :47 and moves left. You have to watch it full screen to see it.


Any idea what the rocket's altitude was at that point in the launch? Looking at it a few times on full screen, it seemed almost like you could see wings flapping. Maybe a bird in the foreground that happened to cross the field of view at just the right time? Or maybe something did hit, because the timing does seem close. I'll hope for a better quality or enhanced video I guess. Good catch.
 
2014-05-16 08:51:15 AM
One other question for the rocket scientists out there:  Could something as small as a bird strike take out a rocket? I've seen the video of jet engine bird strikes, but a rocket?
 
2014-05-16 09:11:00 AM

itcamefromschenectady: The CIA sabotaged it.


More like Comcast.  The crashed satellite was designed to provide "affordable internet access".
 
2014-05-16 09:47:57 AM

mutterfark: One other question for the rocket scientists out there:  Could something as small as a bird strike take out a rocket? I've seen the video of jet engine bird strikes, but a rocket?


Depends, is it an African or European swallow?
 
2014-05-16 10:03:36 AM

mutterfark: One other question for the rocket scientists out there:  Could something as small as a bird strike take out a rocket? I've seen the video of jet engine bird strikes, but a rocket?


Not a rocket scientist, but I'd say that it's not likely for several reasons.
A. No inlet in a rocket engine like a jet engine has.
B. No fragile canopy like a jet plane has.
C. Although the space shuttle was vulnerable to a vicious foam attack, generally soft squishy things aren't much of a match for rockets until they start reaching mach at which point they are generally higher than birds tend to fly.
 
2014-05-16 10:08:50 AM

mutterfark: One other question for the rocket scientists out there: Could something as small as a bird strike take out a rocket? I've seen the video of jet engine bird strikes, but a rocket?


Jet engines have intakes, rockets don't.  I would be much more worried about a bird damaging the payload than harming the rocket itself.
 
2014-05-16 11:24:41 AM

Marmilman: A business card from Dmitry Yarosh was found at the smouldering crash site along with crisp dollar bills.


Героям слава!
 
2014-05-16 11:54:33 AM
Nothing hit it in the video, it was too high up.  Probably just a camera quirk.

It failed 9 minutes after launch, far beyond the time when the first stage (that we see in the video) was already detached.  The video was basically pointlessly attached to the story, the accident happened a long time later.
 
2014-05-16 12:36:45 PM
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It's a bit depressing that we still have to rely on these guys for some of our space launches.

You're welcome!
3.bp.blogspot.com
/// pro-science party my ass.
 
2014-05-16 01:25:59 PM
better video here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cdY1W9A2fbg

can see the "object" at 1:22, and 1st stage burnout and jettison by 2:30

I'm going with streetlight  or, you know, bird

either way, it 'passes' below the vehicle about 1 minute into flight with no visible effect

the failure occurs in the 3rd stage about 8-9 minutes into flight, well out of range of the camera

there's no connection. period.
 
2014-05-16 02:17:28 PM
Thats a shame.   I always support efforts to get free internet out there.  This would have provided internet to Siberia.  Do you know what Siberia is like with no internet_?
 
2014-05-16 03:47:01 PM
FTFA: Today's crash marks the sixth major failure in the last 3 1/2 years for the Proton, a family of launchers that has been in use since the mid-1960s. The last Proton rocket failure occurred in July 2013, when a Proton-M rocket carrying three satellites for Russia's Glonass navigation system crashed shortly after liftoff.

Well, it's a good thing satellites aren't expensive.

/wait, wut?
 
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