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(Reason Magazine)   Sriracha company CEO, who escaped communist Vietnam, says California reminds him too much of home   (reason.com ) divider line
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2014-05-15 01:31:37 PM  
He's not wrong.
 
2014-05-15 01:40:38 PM  
Why should I care what he says?

Is he being forced to stay or something?
 
2014-05-15 01:57:37 PM  
He got incredibly wealthy from making hot sauce in Vietnam too?

/ Love the Sriracha
 
2014-05-15 01:58:58 PM  
I wasn't aware that most of my clothes come from California.
 
vpb [TotalFark]
2014-05-15 01:59:47 PM  
Tran recently compared meddlesome government to that of a communist country.

If being not being able to pollute all you want and tell your neighbors to fark off when they complain is what he wants I would think a Stalinist dictatorship would be the perfect place for him.

Or some Libertarian wasteland like Somalia or Texas.
 
2014-05-15 02:00:23 PM  
Except that he's committed to staying in California.  I understand his particular frustration, though.  I can't stand it when people b*tch and moan about spicy food.
 
2014-05-15 02:03:53 PM  

SlothB77: He's not wrong.


He's not Fong, either.

FTFA: Texas, which is far more business-friendly than California...
And that's where I rolled my eyes and closed the window.

This guy would fit in well with the Cubans in Miami, voting Republican and biatching about regulations.
 
2014-05-15 02:04:09 PM  

Lionel Mandrake: Why should I care what he says?

Is he being forced to stay or something?



He makes hot sauce. Do I have to spell it out for you?
 
2014-05-15 02:05:56 PM  

AGremlin: He got incredibly wealthy from making hot sauce in Vietnam too?

/ Love the Sriracha


JUST LIKE COMMUNISM.
And he would know. He's from there.
 
2014-05-15 02:09:03 PM  

vpb: If being not being able to pollute all you want


That statement is a little over the top, don't you think?
 
2014-05-15 02:17:43 PM  
This is the United States.

You can move to a different state if you dislike the local laws

I bet you Texas would love to have you
 
vpb [TotalFark]
2014-05-15 02:40:53 PM  

show me: vpb: If being not being able to pollute all you want

That statement is a little over the top, don't you think?


I don't blame you for not wanting to read a "reason" article.

He's is pissed because evil government regulators give a damn about the people who live near his factory complaining that he is creating a public nuisance.

Imagine.  Expecting someone who has money like him being bothered with the squeaking of little people, whining about their silly little property values!
 
vpb [TotalFark]
2014-05-15 02:49:32 PM  

cman: This is the United States.

You can move to a different state if you dislike the local laws

I bet you Texas would love to have you


Until they see what color he is and decide he's there to steal their jerbs.
 
2014-05-15 03:00:19 PM  

vpb: If being not being able to pollute all you want and tell your neighbors to fark off when they complain is what he wants I would think a Stalinist dictatorship would be the perfect place for him.

show me: That statement is a little over the top, don't you think?

vpb: He's is pissed because evil government regulators give a damn about the people who live near his factory complaining that he is creating a public nuisance.


To wit, the fumes from the hot sauce plant are enough like napalm for the confusion as to which country he's in to be understandable.
 
2014-05-15 03:09:52 PM  

vpb: cman: This is the United States.

You can move to a different state if you dislike the local laws

I bet you Texas would love to have you

Until they see what color he is and decide he's there to steal their jerbs.


Yellow isnt brown nor red
 
2014-05-15 03:12:34 PM  

vpb: show me: vpb: If being not being able to pollute all you want

That statement is a little over the top, don't you think?

I don't blame you for not wanting to read a "reason" article.

He's is pissed because evil government regulators give a damn about the people who live near his factory complaining that he is creating a public nuisance.

Imagine.  Expecting someone who has money like him being bothered with the squeaking of little people, whining about their silly little property values!


You have me very mischaracterized here. I'm one of the Fark liberals. I just think we need a few more facts before we go calling the man completely evil and out to destroy the city. I read the entire article, a few more from around the web, and the Wikipedia entry for the company. Here's an article you might want to read:

http://www.nbclosangeles.com/the-scene/food-drink/105432218.html

From that article, dated 3 1/2 years ago: "In addition to creating an estimated 190 jobs, Irwindale City Manager Sol Benudiz said the company's move will produce other positive impacts for the city."

Maybe he needs to do more filtering of his exhaust air; I don't know, but it sounds like he does. I just don't see this particular case being on par with Dow Chemical in Bhopal, India. Sounds like they invited a skunk in the house and are now complaining because he stinks. Like I said, he does need to clean up his act, but I don't see this as being a clear-cut good vs. evil issue like you seem to.
 
2014-05-15 03:20:23 PM  

show me: vpb: show me: vpb: If being not being able to pollute all you want

That statement is a little over the top, don't you think?

I don't blame you for not wanting to read a "reason" article.

He's is pissed because evil government regulators give a damn about the people who live near his factory complaining that he is creating a public nuisance.

Imagine.  Expecting someone who has money like him being bothered with the squeaking of little people, whining about their silly little property values!

You have me very mischaracterized here. I'm one of the Fark liberals. I just think we need a few more facts before we go calling the man completely evil and out to destroy the city. I read the entire article, a few more from around the web, and the Wikipedia entry for the company. Here's an article you might want to read:

http://www.nbclosangeles.com/the-scene/food-drink/105432218.html

From that article, dated 3 1/2 years ago: "In addition to creating an estimated 190 jobs, Irwindale City Manager Sol Benudiz said the company's move will produce other positive impacts for the city."

Maybe he needs to do more filtering of his exhaust air; I don't know, but it sounds like he does. I just don't see this particular case being on par with Dow Chemical in Bhopal, India. Sounds like they invited a skunk in the house and are now complaining because he stinks. Like I said, he does need to clean up his act, but I don't see this as being a clear-cut good vs. evil issue like you seem to.


We live in an era of hyperpartisanship. Poster is just doing what everyone else does. Cant really blame them.
 
2014-05-15 03:30:06 PM  
Oh quite being so damn melodramatic.  The government asked you stop annoying the neighbors, that isn't so bad.
 
vpb [TotalFark]
2014-05-15 03:33:05 PM  
show me:

Maybe he needs to do more filtering of his exhaust air; I don't know, but it sounds like he does. I just don't see this particular case being on par with Dow Chemical in Bhopal, India. Sounds like they invited a skunk in the house and are now complaining because he stinks. Like I said, he does need to clean up his act, but I don't see this as being a clear-cut good vs. evil issue like you seem to.

I thought I saw it as a clear cut case of a democratically elected government being vilified as Stalinists for making a decision that seems to be supported by the majority of it's citizens.
 
2014-05-15 03:33:57 PM  

vpb: He's is pissed because evil government regulators give a damn about the people who live near his factory complaining that he is creating a public nuisance.

Imagine.  Expecting someone who has money like him being bothered with the squeaking of little people, whining about their silly little property values!


Yes, people should be stupid enough to move right next door to a factory and then demand the factory bow to their will. God forbid we ask people why they moved next door to a factory in the first place.
 
2014-05-15 03:34:17 PM  
Nothing say "property rights" than the right to pump noxious odors into land you don't own.
 
2014-05-15 03:37:14 PM  

traxan: vpb: He's is pissed because evil government regulators give a damn about the people who live near his factory complaining that he is creating a public nuisance.

Imagine.  Expecting someone who has money like him being bothered with the squeaking of little people, whining about their silly little property values!

Yes, people should be stupid enough to move right next door to a factory and then demand the factory bow to their will. God forbid we ask people why they moved next door to a factory in the first place.


Good lord, people expect to be able to enjoy land they own?  Communism!
 
vpb [TotalFark]
2014-05-15 03:39:36 PM  

EvilEgg: Oh quite being so damn melodramatic.  The government asked you stop annoying the neighbors, that isn't so bad.


They aren't throwing him out of the state, he just doesn't want to do anything about his factory emissions.  Because air quality standards remind him of Vietnam.
 
2014-05-15 03:42:51 PM  

EvilEgg: traxan: vpb: He's is pissed because evil government regulators give a damn about the people who live near his factory complaining that he is creating a public nuisance.

Imagine.  Expecting someone who has money like him being bothered with the squeaking of little people, whining about their silly little property values!

Yes, people should be stupid enough to move right next door to a factory and then demand the factory bow to their will. God forbid we ask people why they moved next door to a factory in the first place.

Good lord, people expect to be able to enjoy land they own?  Communism!


Now, let's please not go too far that way either. The factory has only been there 3 1/2 years, but it does seem like it was actively courted by the local government if not the citizens. I think I read in one of the articles that he already put in charcoal filters in the stacks. He probably needs to do a bit more.
 
2014-05-15 03:45:53 PM  

SlothB77: He's not wrong.


I'm from a communist country. He is wrong.
 
2014-05-15 03:49:24 PM  

show me: The factory has only been there 3 1/2 years, but it does seem like it was actively courted by the local government if not the citizens.


So isn't this the opposite of communism? The government wants one thing, and local private property owners want another thing, and the government is losing. Sounds like a victory for private property rights.
 
2014-05-15 03:55:20 PM  

DamnYankees: show me: The factory has only been there 3 1/2 years, but it does seem like it was actively courted by the local government if not the citizens.

So isn't this the opposite of communism? The government wants one thing, and local private property owners want another thing, and the government is losing. Sounds like a victory for private property rights.


That's a good point too. I doubt if the local citizens want the plant to move, though, just to clean up their act. But there I go assuming again. Hopefully someone will do an in-depth investigative report on this. I wouldn't normally be this interested, but I love the damn sauce. Got a bottle in my work cabinet and just put some on my lunch today.
 
2014-05-15 03:57:40 PM  

abb3w: To wit, the fumes from the hot sauce plant are enough like napalm for the confusion as to which country he's in to be understandable.


Came for this.
 
2014-05-15 03:58:02 PM  
Laws where you have to tak care of your own shiat = communism!!
 
2014-05-15 03:59:46 PM  

MooseUpNorth: abb3w: To wit, the fumes from the hot sauce plant are enough like napalm for the confusion as to which country he's in to be understandable.

Came for this.


Left in disarray eleven years later from the roof of the embassy on the last helicopter.
 
2014-05-15 04:00:05 PM  
Today, I feel almost the same. Even now, we live in [the] USA, and my feeling, the government, not a big difference," Tran said on Monday from his factory outside of Los Angeles.

Dude makes millions, lives a life of luxury and he's going to compare the US to Communist Vietnam?

God what a farking asshole.

I should stop buying his shiat. Seriously. People this ungrateful should be put out of business.
 
2014-05-15 04:05:19 PM  

vpb: show me: vpb: If being not being able to pollute all you want

That statement is a little over the top, don't you think?

I don't blame you for not wanting to read a "reason" article.

He's is pissed because evil government regulators give a damn about the people who live near his factory complaining that he is creating a public nuisance.

Imagine.  Expecting someone who has money like him being bothered with the squeaking of little people, whining about their silly little property values!


Caring about little people is socialist.

He should know, he is one.

/penis
 
2014-05-15 04:05:30 PM  
how did it become a problem only recently?

Is it once of those cases where assholes move out to a rural area and then immediately start complaining about farming type operations?
 
2014-05-15 04:06:21 PM  
You have every right to!

And he has a right to move his factory to Texas or back to Asia where he can produce as much stink as he wants. (Then you'll complain about the offshoring of jobs, but whatever)
 
2014-05-15 04:06:32 PM  
I love how states basically now have to compete with each other over who can give the most handouts to businesses.  Funny how they don't seem nearly concerned about other things that are really important to people who aren't wealthy business owners.
 
2014-05-15 04:06:56 PM  

show me: vpb: If being not being able to pollute all you want

That statement is a little over the top, don't you think?


Not as over-the-top as comparing business regulations to the raping, starving, and killing of millions of people.
 
2014-05-15 04:07:24 PM  
Will he love me long time?
 
2014-05-15 04:07:29 PM  

Debeo Summa Credo: You have every right to!

And he has a right to move his factory to Texas or back to Asia where he can produce as much stink as he wants. (Then you'll complain about the offshoring of jobs, but whatever)


What is this guy not white enough for you?

Usually you're the first to agree regulations hurt rich people and their businesses.
 
2014-05-15 04:07:53 PM  

whidbey: I should stop buying his shiat.


Oh, that goes without saying.

But it's too late, really.   There are friggen Sriracha flavored potato chips now.  Might as well boycott WalMart, for all the good it'd do.
 
2014-05-15 04:08:03 PM  
Remember, you implicitly own all the land next to your land and may affect it however you want.  That's freedom! You bought it, so you get everything else too!

//Even if reason's stupid libertarian world, this is an infringement of the neighbors' property rights.
 
2014-05-15 04:08:42 PM  
I know basically nothing about this argument, but he pretty much turned me off to his side of it when I heard him say that on the radio.

If you have to go that far out into ridiculous to make your point, you probably don't have one.
 
vpb [TotalFark]
2014-05-15 04:09:16 PM  
Yes, people should be stupid enough to move right next door to a factory and then demand the factory bow to their will. God forbid we ask people why they moved next door to a factory in the first place.

Where did you get the idea that they moved next to it?  It has only been there since 2010.
 
2014-05-15 04:10:44 PM  
As I recall from other articles there was not a terribly huge amount of complaints, and most of the complaints came from only 4 addresses.  So he essentially has 4 cranky neighbors who are pissed of for about 1 month out of the year because of a odor.  Not actual measurable air pollution, but a smell.
 
2014-05-15 04:11:01 PM  

vpb: It has only been there since 2010.


After, apparently, the city that's suing them convinced them to move there.
 
2014-05-15 04:11:07 PM  
Good, bad, right wing, left wing, screw all of that.  None of that matters.

He's making a very good hot sauce.  As far as I'm concerned he can intentionally be farting in the face of every kindergartner at the local school.

Same with the people who make Frank's or Cholula.
 
2014-05-15 04:12:23 PM  

mrmopar5287: As I recall from other articles there was not a terribly huge amount of complaints, and most of the complaints came from only 4 addresses.  So he essentially has 4 cranky neighbors who are pissed of for about 1 month out of the year because of a odor.  Not actual measurable air pollution, but a smell.


So a bad smell doesn't constitute "air pollution" to you?
 
2014-05-15 04:13:10 PM  

ikanreed: Remember, you implicitly own all the land next to your land and may affect it however you want.  That's freedom! You bought it, so you get everything else too!

//Even if reason's stupid libertarian world, this is an infringement of the neighbors' property rights.


Actually, it is kinda more a communist mentality.  Land belongs to everyone.  Rural, too, maybe, I guess.

When I was living in China, people would just, like, grow stuff.  Anywhere.  Next to roads or whatever.

And they dry their meats and acorns and stuff in the middle of the roads.

So, I guess the mentality is that this guy shares the whole area with these other people.

But he's the important one, because he has a factory.  They should be happy he has a factory in their area.
 
2014-05-15 04:13:56 PM  
You know who else escaped Vietnam to make money?

www.infomercial-hell.com
 
2014-05-15 04:14:06 PM  
Thanks for the Stalinist pollution laws, Obama!
 
2014-05-15 04:16:39 PM  

cman: This is the United States.

You can move to a different state if you dislike the local laws

I bet you Texas would love to have you


What law[s] is he breaking?

"Since October, air quality regulators have received 70 complaints, most of them from four households. Inspectors have made dozens of visits to the factory and nearby homes, yet have not cited the company for any environmental violations "
 
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