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(USA Today) NewsFlash Aaron Hernandez indicted on two counts of murder, which will have to wait until he finishes his first trial for murder. Judge says that if he could manage to walk from the courtroom back to his cell without murdering anybody, that would be swell   (usatoday.com) divider line 53
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2014-05-15 02:46:50 PM
4 votes:
I'm always curious about the psychology of a guy like this. What's his end-game? He's got more money than he can spend already from football, he's got women, cars, goes to clubs and gets treated like a VIP, whatever he wants. He's respected in his profession, despite that profession being a game. The world is pretty much open to him and if he's smart, he'll never have to do a real day's work in his life. He will live better than 99% of the known universe and all he has to do is not kill people.

So why the stupid gang shiat? What was he getting there that he couldn't get from all the other stuff (aside from the fun of shooting people, I guess). Was he just so pampered because he was an athlete that he never figured he'd get caught? Is reality so distorted that he doesn't even have a concept of murder or consequences? Is his ego really so big and fragile that someone mouthing off at a club is a hunt-and-kill offense? Does he go home afterwards and feel proud of what he's accomplished? How does he define success?

In short, what kind of life are you hoping to lead if you expect your night out on the town to involve killing people?

I know there's no rational explanation for murder, but WTF must be going through this guy's mind? I can't even conceive of a brain so alien that any of this would seem reasonable to someone in his position.
2014-05-15 03:07:28 PM
3 votes:
As to the numbers of murderers that are or have played in the NHL (7) and NFL (34). If you look at numeric populations for each group, and break it down by the current structures you'll find the following information:

Max # on an                                  NHL Team: 23 ---- NFL Team: 53
Number of                                     NHL Teams: 30  ---- NFL Teams: 32
Max # of players in a season                  NHL: 690 --- NFL: 1696

Number of roster changes                      NHL 3.68 ---- NFL: 6
Average player plays                              NHL 5.7 Yrs  NFL 3.5 Yrs
Number of years                   30 NHL teams 21 Yrs --- 32  NFL Teams: 21 Yrs

~Total players                                          NHL: 2539   ---  NFL: 10176
Murderers per sport                                NHL: 7          ---  NFL: 34
~ Players/Murderers ratio:                    NHL   1:362.7 ---  NFL: 1:299.3
~ # of M's/Player                                   NHL   0.0028  --- NFL: 0.0033
~ Percentage of player muderers         NHL   0.28%   --- NFL: 0.33%

~ Number of players not murderers:       NHL 2532     --- NFL: 10142

While high profile when it happens, Killers in the NHL and the NFL are both relatively close in relative numbers adjusted by population size.
2014-05-15 02:20:32 PM
3 votes:

vudukungfu: DecemberNitro: /f*ck football and everyone in it

I can get behind that.
It's farking un-American.
It's organized crime.
It's rapey.
It's stupid.
It's meaningless.
People that get excited about it are getting excited about something stupid and meaningless.
People that do that tend to get murderey.
Fark football and fark football fans
fark fantasyfootball while you are at it.
I mean, what is that, like Bronies for football?


vudukungfu: I can get behind that.
It's farking un-American.
It's organized crime.
It's rapey.
It's stupid.
It's meaningless.
People that get excited about it are getting excited about something stupid and meaningless.
People that do that tend to get murderey.
Fark football and fark football fans
fark fantasyfootball while you are at it.
I mean, what is that, like Bronies for football?


I don't care for football or the bronies who follow it, but a lot of things are stupid and meaningless. I love rock concerts and video games and they're a massive waste of time.
2014-05-15 01:45:00 PM
3 votes:
2014-05-15 01:27:24 PM
3 votes:

stratagos: Wait, I dont know if I should care about this.

Is he an important player for a team I root for? If so, he was railroaded.

If not, he's obviously a thug who needs to go away for life


I'm a Patriot fan, and I don't think anyone in NE believe he is being  rail roaded.  This guy is a nut case.  And a stupid one at that.
2014-05-15 01:23:01 PM
3 votes:

DecemberNitro: A football player is a murderer?! MY MIND IS BLOWN

/f*ck football and everyone in it


Now there's a rational response to this situation.  I bet you have lots of friends.
2014-05-15 01:22:02 PM
3 votes:

DecemberNitro: A football player is a murderer?! MY MIND IS BLOWN

/f*ck football and everyone in it


Lots of people play football. Statistically speaking, not very many of them are murderers.
2014-05-15 01:21:56 PM
3 votes:

MFAWG: How the fark did this guy escape notice for so long? It's not like he just woke up one morning and said ' I think I'll become a gangbanger today'

People had to notice this guy had more than casual gang ties.


I'm sure they noticed, but since he was really good at football, didn't care. It's the American way.
2014-05-15 01:17:59 PM
3 votes:

Rwa2play: I understand that jurors must be impartial, but when you take a look at this guy:



doesn't he just scream guilty as sin?


Not really. He looks like every other clean shaven adult that has poor taste in tattoos.
2014-05-15 01:13:31 PM
3 votes:
"Hey! Try not to suck murder any dicks on the way through the parking lot!"

img.fark.net
2014-05-15 03:03:57 PM
2 votes:

JerkStore: I'm always curious about the psychology of a guy like this. What's his end-game? He's got more money than he can spend already from football, he's got women, cars, goes to clubs and gets treated like a VIP, whatever he wants. He's respected in his profession, despite that profession being a game. The world is pretty much open to him and if he's smart, he'll never have to do a real day's work in his life. He will live better than 99% of the known universe and all he has to do is not kill people.

So why the stupid gang shiat? What was he getting there that he couldn't get from all the other stuff (aside from the fun of shooting people, I guess). Was he just so pampered because he was an athlete that he never figured he'd get caught? Is reality so distorted that he doesn't even have a concept of murder or consequences? Is his ego really so big and fragile that someone mouthing off at a club is a hunt-and-kill offense? Does he go home afterwards and feel proud of what he's accomplished? How does he define success?

In short, what kind of life are you hoping to lead if you expect your night out on the town to involve killing people?

I know there's no rational explanation for murder, but WTF must be going through this guy's mind? I can't even conceive of a brain so alien that any of this would seem reasonable to someone in his position.


Wanna know how I know you don't know fark-all about football?
2014-05-15 02:52:06 PM
2 votes:

Rwa2play: I understand that jurors must be impartial, but when you take a look at this guy:

[media.vcstar.com image 607x811]

doesn't he just scream guilty as sin?


I hope you never serve on a jury.
2014-05-15 02:10:10 PM
2 votes:

Trik: so he feels he's entitled to kill whomever he wants because he's gifted in a sport and has been treated special all these years?


He didn't kill people because he's a football player. He did it because he's a psychopath. There are plenty of people who are treated like they're special who manage to keep the murderin to a minimum.
2014-05-15 02:06:46 PM
2 votes:

jayphat: MugzyBrown: jayphat: Because in any given week, I don't wake up to stuff like this.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_professional_sportspeople_convi ct ed_of_crimes#Ice_hockey

Then you have stuff like:  http://sports.yahoo.com/nhl/blog/puck_daddy/post/Kane-arrested-after- a llegedly-assaulting-robbin?urn=nhl,181695

http://abcnews.go.com/Sports/story?id=100318

http://www.nhl.com/ice/news.htm?id=692733

Per your list, there are 7 hockey players on that list. There are 34 football players. So really, go there again.


Aren't there about twice to three times more NFL players than there are NHL players at any given time?  Percentage wise, about a wash, no?

/don't care enough to do the math
2014-05-15 01:56:53 PM
2 votes:

JohnBigBootay: Danger Mouse: stratagos: Wait, I dont know if I should care about this.

Is he an important player for a team I root for? If so, he was railroaded.

If not, he's obviously a thug who needs to go away for life

I'm a Patriot fan, and I don't think anyone in NE believe he is being  rail roaded.  This guy is a nut case.  And a stupid one at that.

He was a good player though. That's what kills me about the whole OJ thing. Did he murder his wife and that dude? Sure he did. But people forget how awesome a running back he was and now he never even gets mentioned.


Pete Rose wants a word with you.
2014-05-15 01:24:09 PM
2 votes:
Better rundown of events according to the Washington Post
2014-05-15 01:17:29 PM
2 votes:
A football player is a murderer?! MY MIND IS BLOWN

/f*ck football and everyone in it
2014-05-15 01:17:16 PM
2 votes:

HaywoodJablonski: I've lost count. So including the 2 guys in Florida, is that 5 dead guys he's probably responsible for?


And every one of his accomplices are pondering when to cut the cord, plead and hang him out to dry.
2014-05-15 01:16:37 PM
2 votes:
How the fark did this guy escape notice for so long? It's not like he just woke up one morning and said ' I think I'll become a gangbanger today'

People had to notice this guy had more than casual gang ties.
2014-05-15 03:40:10 PM
1 votes:

Acravius: As to the numbers of murderers that are or have played in the NHL (7) and NFL (34). If you look at numeric populations for each group, and break it down by the current structures you'll find the following information:

Max # on an                                  NHL Team: 23 ---- NFL Team: 53
Number of                                     NHL Teams: 30  ---- NFL Teams: 32
Max # of players in a season                  NHL: 690 --- NFL: 1696

Number of roster changes                      NHL 3.68 ---- NFL: 6
Average player plays                              NHL 5.7 Yrs  NFL 3.5 Yrs
Number of years                   30 NHL teams 21 Yrs --- 32  NFL Teams: 21 Yrs

~Total players                                          NHL: 2539   ---  NFL: 10176
Murderers per sport                                NHL: 7          ---  NFL: 34
~ Players/Murderers ratio:                    NHL   1:362.7 ---  NFL: 1:299.3
~ # of M's/Player                                   NHL   0.0028  --- NFL: 0.0033
~ Percentage of player muderers         NHL   0.28%   --- NFL: 0.33%

~ Number of players not murderers:       NHL 2532     --- NFL: 10142

While high profile when it happens, Killers in the NHL and the NFL are both relatively close in relative numbers adjusted by population size.


*Golf clap*
2014-05-15 03:18:45 PM
1 votes:

Acravius: As to the numbers of murderers that are or have played in the NHL (7) and NFL (34). If you look at numeric populations for each group, and break it down by the current structures you'll find the following information:

Max # on an                                  NHL Team: 23 ---- NFL Team: 53
Number of                                     NHL Teams: 30  ---- NFL Teams: 32
Max # of players in a season                  NHL: 690 --- NFL: 1696

Number of roster changes                      NHL 3.68 ---- NFL: 6
Average player plays                              NHL 5.7 Yrs  NFL 3.5 Yrs
Number of years                   30 NHL teams 21 Yrs --- 32  NFL Teams: 21 Yrs

~Total players                                          NHL: 2539   ---  NFL: 10176
Murderers per sport                                NHL: 7          ---  NFL: 34
~ Players/Murderers ratio:                    NHL   1:362.7 ---  NFL: 1:299.3
~ # of M's/Player                                   NHL   0.0028  --- NFL: 0.0033
~ Percentage of player muderers         NHL   0.28%   --- NFL: 0.33%

~ Number of players not murderers:       NHL 2532     --- NFL: 10142

While high profile when it happens, Killers in the NHL and the NFL are both relatively close in relative numbers adjusted by population size.


God damn dude!!  You don't work or what?

/good job btw
2014-05-15 03:15:25 PM
1 votes:

xaks: JerkStore: I'm always curious about the psychology of a guy like this. What's his end-game? He's got more money than he can spend already from football, he's got women, cars, goes to clubs and gets treated like a VIP, whatever he wants. He's respected in his profession, despite that profession being a game. The world is pretty much open to him and if he's smart, he'll never have to do a real day's work in his life. He will live better than 99% of the known universe and all he has to do is not kill people.

So why the stupid gang shiat? What was he getting there that he couldn't get from all the other stuff (aside from the fun of shooting people, I guess). Was he just so pampered because he was an athlete that he never figured he'd get caught? Is reality so distorted that he doesn't even have a concept of murder or consequences? Is his ego really so big and fragile that someone mouthing off at a club is a hunt-and-kill offense? Does he go home afterwards and feel proud of what he's accomplished? How does he define success?

In short, what kind of life are you hoping to lead if you expect your night out on the town to involve killing people?

I know there's no rational explanation for murder, but WTF must be going through this guy's mind? I can't even conceive of a brain so alien that any of this would seem reasonable to someone in his position.

Wanna know how I know you don't know fark-all about football?


And that is relevant because...?

Are you implying that playing football also makes people psychotic? Are you saying that because I'm not a hardcore football fan that I'm not allowed to speculate on the mindset of someone who has unlimited success being also so willing to throw it away on nothing more than hurt feelings? Are you saying that if I sat in front of my TV every Sunday, drank beer, got fat, and talked about the intricate minutia of a game that I would somehow also understand the motivations of a murderer?

Your point, I'm honestly not seeing it.
2014-05-15 03:03:00 PM
1 votes:
i gotta say, who ever posted the first link of convicted athletes. bravo. that has some awesome reading in it
with some shockingly good charges
2014-05-15 02:51:30 PM
1 votes:

JerkStore: I'm always curious...


No doubt would be interesting. Many pro athletes throw away careers on drugs and crime but this goes beyond them all, further even than the enculturation of gang culture. Some try and move large amounts of drugs, fight dogs, but this guy is a genuine psychotic with freakish natural abilities. What made him or contributed to his condition would no doubt be fascinating.
2014-05-15 02:49:00 PM
1 votes:
Any bets on how long he lasts in jail?
My guess is he kills a few guys, then gets himself killed.
2014-05-15 02:23:33 PM
1 votes:
I bet the percentage of paralympic runners who are murderers is through the roof.
2014-05-15 02:14:32 PM
1 votes:

Empty H: Rwa2play: I understand that jurors must be impartial, but when you take a look at this guy:

doesn't he just scream guilty as sin?

Not really. He looks like every other clean shaven adult that has poor taste in tattoos.


Surprised his lawyers don't have him wearing gloves.
2014-05-15 02:07:36 PM
1 votes:

jayphat: MugzyBrown: jayphat: Per your list, there are 7 hockey players on that list. There are 34 football players. So really, go there again.

So you're an NHL fan because they're slightly better than NFL players?

That's the logic you're using?

No. I'm supporting a sport that has zero tolerance for stupid behavior off the "field" of play. That hold professional athletes to a standard that says "act like a moral human being, you're being paid like it."


7 isn't 0.
2014-05-15 02:07:24 PM
1 votes:

SlothB77: Khellendros: SlothB77: so will this trial be after he is convicted of the other murder charge?  "Sure, he was convicted of that other murder, but he totally didn't do these two."

In many places, that is the difference between 20 years in jail and a needle. It matters legally and morally.

a prior murder conviction sure doesn't look good in a murder trial.


Is prior conviction isn't going to be admissible. That is, unless Hernandez gets on the stand and says something stupid like "honestly, I've never killed anyone in my life!", in which case it can be offered in rebuttal. But his lawyer won't let him do that.
2014-05-15 02:03:49 PM
1 votes:

MugzyBrown: jayphat: No. I'm supporting a sport that has zero tolerance for stupid behavior off the "field" of play. That hold professional athletes to a standard that says "act like a moral human being, you're being paid like it."

Oh I thought you were talking about the NHL.

That's the league where you can break somebody's neck and not get suspended.


Since when? The player safety department had done ALOT to change on ice behavior. Mind you, they still have a ways to go. But its far better behavior than the NFL.
2014-05-15 02:03:47 PM
1 votes:

JohnBigBootay: Danger Mouse: stratagos: Wait, I dont know if I should care about this.

Is he an important player for a team I root for? If so, he was railroaded.

If not, he's obviously a thug who needs to go away for life

I'm a Patriot fan, and I don't think anyone in NE believe he is being  rail roaded.  This guy is a nut case.  And a stupid one at that.

He was a good player though. That's what kills me about the whole OJ thing. Did he murder his wife and that dude? Sure he did. But people forget how awesome a running back he was and now he never even gets mentioned.


Well of course not because he turned out to be a murderous peice of human shiat.  Hernadez will go down the same way. I  love football, but have little to no patience for gangsta althletes.
2014-05-15 02:01:57 PM
1 votes:

SlothB77: Khellendros: SlothB77: so will this trial be after he is convicted of the other murder charge?  "Sure, he was convicted of that other murder, but he totally didn't do these two."

In many places, that is the difference between 20 years in jail and a needle. It matters legally and morally.

a prior murder conviction sure doesn't look good in a murder trial.


That's why you can't mention it unless the two crimes are connected in some very specific ways (ie same murder weapon, same unique MO) or unless the defendant takes the stand in his own defense
2014-05-15 01:59:37 PM
1 votes:

vudukungfu: People that get excited about it are getting excited about something stupid and meaningless.


I know, right? It's a goddamn shame that the USA invented sporting events in the 20th century like they did.
2014-05-15 01:58:46 PM
1 votes:

MugzyBrown: jayphat: Per your list, there are 7 hockey players on that list. There are 34 football players. So really, go there again.

So you're an NHL fan because they're slightly better than NFL players?

That's the logic you're using?


If my team beats your team 34-7, you better not come in here saying we're "slightly better."
2014-05-15 01:58:35 PM
1 votes:
Fantasy football tip: There are several lists and databases of NFL players with felony arrests and/or convictions. Use these lists when selecting your fantasy football team. One year I only selected an "all-perp" team and finished second in my league. I called my team "Mama Tried", after the Merle Haggard song with the chorus: "And I turned twenty-one in prison doing life without parole, No one could steer me right but mama tried, mama tried..."
2014-05-15 01:57:14 PM
1 votes:

jayphat: MugzyBrown: jayphat: Per your list, there are 7 hockey players on that list. There are 34 football players. So really, go there again.

So you're an NHL fan because they're slightly better than NFL players?

That's the logic you're using?

No. I'm supporting a sport that has zero tolerance for stupid behavior off the "field" of play. That hold professional athletes to a standard that says "act like a moral human being, you're being paid like it."


But has plenty of tolerance for on the ice stupid behavior. 5 minutes in the box for beating the crap out of another athlete should be enough time to learn your lesson.
2014-05-15 01:55:24 PM
1 votes:

DecemberNitro: /f*ck football and everyone in it


I can get behind that.
It's farking un-American.
It's organized crime.
It's rapey.
It's stupid.
It's meaningless.
People that get excited about it are getting excited about something stupid and meaningless.
People that do that tend to get murderey.
Fark football and fark football fans
fark fantasyfootball while you are at it.
I mean, what is that, like Bronies for football?
2014-05-15 01:54:45 PM
1 votes:

MugzyBrown: jayphat: Per your list, there are 7 hockey players on that list. There are 34 football players. So really, go there again.

So you're an NHL fan because they're slightly better than NFL players?

That's the logic you're using?


No. I'm supporting a sport that has zero tolerance for stupid behavior off the "field" of play. That hold professional athletes to a standard that says "act like a moral human being, you're being paid like it."
2014-05-15 01:52:44 PM
1 votes:

jayphat: Per your list, there are 7 hockey players on that list. There are 34 football players. So really, go there again.


So you're an NHL fan because they're slightly better than NFL players?

That's the logic you're using?
2014-05-15 01:49:50 PM
1 votes:

MugzyBrown: jayphat: Because in any given week, I don't wake up to stuff like this.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_professional_sportspeople_convi ct ed_of_crimes#Ice_hockey

Then you have stuff like:  http://sports.yahoo.com/nhl/blog/puck_daddy/post/Kane-arrested-after- a llegedly-assaulting-robbin?urn=nhl,181695

http://abcnews.go.com/Sports/story?id=100318

http://www.nhl.com/ice/news.htm?id=692733


Per your list, there are 7 hockey players on that list. There are 34 football players. So really, go there again.
2014-05-15 01:47:20 PM
1 votes:
If he is guilty of these two murders, then he played the entire football season after having murdered two people.

That is one cold motherfarker.
2014-05-15 01:35:46 PM
1 votes:

LeroyBourne: The NBA PR team needs to jump on this stat!


People ask me why I watch hockey. Because in any given week, I don't wake up to stuff like this.
2014-05-15 01:35:30 PM
1 votes:
But at least he didn't kiss another dude on the lips.
2014-05-15 01:33:28 PM
1 votes:

jaybeezey: Pro Tip for the idiots out there.

If you use a gun in a crime. Clean that gun up and throw it in the closes large body of flowing water you can find.


Shermheads aren't exactly known for their critical thinking skills.
2014-05-15 01:31:47 PM
1 votes:

SlothB77: Khellendros: SlothB77: so will this trial be after he is convicted of the other murder charge?  "Sure, he was convicted of that other murder, but he totally didn't do these two."

In many places, that is the difference between 20 years in jail and a needle. It matters legally and morally.

a prior murder conviction sure doesn't look good in a murder trial.


No argument there.  But it does make a huge difference.
2014-05-15 01:26:36 PM
1 votes:
Pro Tip for the idiots out there.

If you use a gun in a crime. Clean that gun up and throw it in the closes large body of flowing water you can find.
2014-05-15 01:24:25 PM
1 votes:
PCP is bad mmmkay.
2014-05-15 01:23:47 PM
1 votes:

SlothB77: so will this trial be after he is convicted of the other murder charge?  "Sure, he was convicted of that other murder, but he totally didn't do these two."


In many places, that is the difference between 20 years in jail and a needle. It matters legally and morally.
2014-05-15 01:23:00 PM
1 votes:
what does that say on his fingers P I E W?  What does that stand for?
2014-05-15 01:22:02 PM
1 votes:

DecemberNitro: A football player is a murderer?! MY MIND IS BLOWN

/f*ck football and everyone in it


fark you too, buddy!
2014-05-15 01:21:16 PM
1 votes:

DecemberNitro: A football player is a murderer?! MY MIND IS BLOWN

/f*ck football and everyone in it


Coach wouldn't let you play in HS huh?
2014-05-15 01:17:14 PM
1 votes:
The Patriot way.
2014-05-15 01:15:39 PM
1 votes:
I've lost count. So including the 2 guys in Florida, is that 5 dead guys he's probably responsible for?
 
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