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(USA Today) NewsFlash Aaron Hernandez indicted on two counts of murder, which will have to wait until he finishes his first trial for murder. Judge says that if he could manage to walk from the courtroom back to his cell without murdering anybody, that would be swell   (usatoday.com) divider line 215
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2014-05-15 03:07:28 PM  
As to the numbers of murderers that are or have played in the NHL (7) and NFL (34). If you look at numeric populations for each group, and break it down by the current structures you'll find the following information:

Max # on an                                  NHL Team: 23 ---- NFL Team: 53
Number of                                     NHL Teams: 30  ---- NFL Teams: 32
Max # of players in a season                  NHL: 690 --- NFL: 1696

Number of roster changes                      NHL 3.68 ---- NFL: 6
Average player plays                              NHL 5.7 Yrs  NFL 3.5 Yrs
Number of years                   30 NHL teams 21 Yrs --- 32  NFL Teams: 21 Yrs

~Total players                                          NHL: 2539   ---  NFL: 10176
Murderers per sport                                NHL: 7          ---  NFL: 34
~ Players/Murderers ratio:                    NHL   1:362.7 ---  NFL: 1:299.3
~ # of M's/Player                                   NHL   0.0028  --- NFL: 0.0033
~ Percentage of player muderers         NHL   0.28%   --- NFL: 0.33%

~ Number of players not murderers:       NHL 2532     --- NFL: 10142

While high profile when it happens, Killers in the NHL and the NFL are both relatively close in relative numbers adjusted by population size.
 
2014-05-15 03:14:35 PM  

jayphat: MugzyBrown: jayphat: Per your list, there are 7 hockey players on that list. There are 34 football players. So really, go there again.

So you're an NHL fan because they're slightly better than NFL players?

That's the logic you're using?

No. I'm supporting a sport that has zero tolerance for stupid behavior off the "field" of play. That hold professional athletes to a standard that says "act like a moral human being, you're being paid like it."


It's far from zero tolerance. Dany Heatley, Jordan too too, the Nhlers that just caught with cocaine. Or the player who tried to hire a hit man to kill his agent

I'm a diehard hockey fan.They are generally a little more well behaved than ballers, but they are far from lily white angels
 
2014-05-15 03:15:25 PM  

xaks: JerkStore: I'm always curious about the psychology of a guy like this. What's his end-game? He's got more money than he can spend already from football, he's got women, cars, goes to clubs and gets treated like a VIP, whatever he wants. He's respected in his profession, despite that profession being a game. The world is pretty much open to him and if he's smart, he'll never have to do a real day's work in his life. He will live better than 99% of the known universe and all he has to do is not kill people.

So why the stupid gang shiat? What was he getting there that he couldn't get from all the other stuff (aside from the fun of shooting people, I guess). Was he just so pampered because he was an athlete that he never figured he'd get caught? Is reality so distorted that he doesn't even have a concept of murder or consequences? Is his ego really so big and fragile that someone mouthing off at a club is a hunt-and-kill offense? Does he go home afterwards and feel proud of what he's accomplished? How does he define success?

In short, what kind of life are you hoping to lead if you expect your night out on the town to involve killing people?

I know there's no rational explanation for murder, but WTF must be going through this guy's mind? I can't even conceive of a brain so alien that any of this would seem reasonable to someone in his position.

Wanna know how I know you don't know fark-all about football?


And that is relevant because...?

Are you implying that playing football also makes people psychotic? Are you saying that because I'm not a hardcore football fan that I'm not allowed to speculate on the mindset of someone who has unlimited success being also so willing to throw it away on nothing more than hurt feelings? Are you saying that if I sat in front of my TV every Sunday, drank beer, got fat, and talked about the intricate minutia of a game that I would somehow also understand the motivations of a murderer?

Your point, I'm honestly not seeing it.
 
2014-05-15 03:16:20 PM  
Acravius:
~ Percentage of player murderers         NHL   0.28%   --- NFL: 0.33%

~ Number of players not murderers:       NHL 2532     --- NFL: 10142

While high profile when it happens, Killers in the NHL and the NFL are both relatively close in relative numbers adjusted by population size.


I think I love you. Or highly admire you. Or both.
 
2014-05-15 03:18:41 PM  
My friend's fantasy pool has a cash prize award when if/when one of your players is arrested, someone wins every year.
 
2014-05-15 03:18:45 PM  

Acravius: As to the numbers of murderers that are or have played in the NHL (7) and NFL (34). If you look at numeric populations for each group, and break it down by the current structures you'll find the following information:

Max # on an                                  NHL Team: 23 ---- NFL Team: 53
Number of                                     NHL Teams: 30  ---- NFL Teams: 32
Max # of players in a season                  NHL: 690 --- NFL: 1696

Number of roster changes                      NHL 3.68 ---- NFL: 6
Average player plays                              NHL 5.7 Yrs  NFL 3.5 Yrs
Number of years                   30 NHL teams 21 Yrs --- 32  NFL Teams: 21 Yrs

~Total players                                          NHL: 2539   ---  NFL: 10176
Murderers per sport                                NHL: 7          ---  NFL: 34
~ Players/Murderers ratio:                    NHL   1:362.7 ---  NFL: 1:299.3
~ # of M's/Player                                   NHL   0.0028  --- NFL: 0.0033
~ Percentage of player muderers         NHL   0.28%   --- NFL: 0.33%

~ Number of players not murderers:       NHL 2532     --- NFL: 10142

While high profile when it happens, Killers in the NHL and the NFL are both relatively close in relative numbers adjusted by population size.


God damn dude!!  You don't work or what?

/good job btw
 
2014-05-15 03:21:53 PM  

Acravius: As to the numbers of murderers that are or have played in the NHL (7) and NFL (34). If you look at numeric populations for each group, and break it down by the current structures you'll find the following information:

Max # on an                                  NHL Team: 23 ---- NFL Team: 53
Number of                                     NHL Teams: 30  ---- NFL Teams: 32
Max # of players in a season                  NHL: 690 --- NFL: 1696

Number of roster changes                      NHL 3.68 ---- NFL: 6
Average player plays                              NHL 5.7 Yrs  NFL 3.5 Yrs
Number of years                   30 NHL teams 21 Yrs --- 32  NFL Teams: 21 Yrs

~Total players                                          NHL: 2539   ---  NFL: 10176
Murderers per sport                                NHL: 7          ---  NFL: 34
~ Players/Murderers ratio:                    NHL   1:362.7 ---  NFL: 1:299.3
~ # of M's/Player                                   NHL   0.0028  --- NFL: 0.0033
~ Percentage of player muderers         NHL   0.28%   --- NFL: 0.33%

~ Number of players not murderers:       NHL 2532     --- NFL: 10142

While high profile when it happens, Killers in the NHL and the NFL are both relatively close in relative numbers adjusted by population size.


But the number of murders per game is much lower in the NHL
 
2014-05-15 03:23:51 PM  

Acravius: Number of players not murderers:       NHL 2532     --- NFL: 10142


they just haven't been accused yet
 
2014-05-15 03:24:29 PM  
I'm not surprised. Not surprised on the team he played for. I mean his coach is a rule breaking thug in a hood. Wouldn't surprise me to find out he has likes skittles.
 
2014-05-15 03:28:57 PM  
he just looks so at home.....like, in spite of his success and riches that one day he knew he'd be going to prison.
 
2014-05-15 03:39:35 PM  
If Urban Meyer didn't have Tebow he would be seen as recruiting more thugs than any other coach.


Alex Smith! Am I right?
 
2014-05-15 03:40:10 PM  

Acravius: As to the numbers of murderers that are or have played in the NHL (7) and NFL (34). If you look at numeric populations for each group, and break it down by the current structures you'll find the following information:

Max # on an                                  NHL Team: 23 ---- NFL Team: 53
Number of                                     NHL Teams: 30  ---- NFL Teams: 32
Max # of players in a season                  NHL: 690 --- NFL: 1696

Number of roster changes                      NHL 3.68 ---- NFL: 6
Average player plays                              NHL 5.7 Yrs  NFL 3.5 Yrs
Number of years                   30 NHL teams 21 Yrs --- 32  NFL Teams: 21 Yrs

~Total players                                          NHL: 2539   ---  NFL: 10176
Murderers per sport                                NHL: 7          ---  NFL: 34
~ Players/Murderers ratio:                    NHL   1:362.7 ---  NFL: 1:299.3
~ # of M's/Player                                   NHL   0.0028  --- NFL: 0.0033
~ Percentage of player muderers         NHL   0.28%   --- NFL: 0.33%

~ Number of players not murderers:       NHL 2532     --- NFL: 10142

While high profile when it happens, Killers in the NHL and the NFL are both relatively close in relative numbers adjusted by population size.


*Golf clap*
 
2014-05-15 03:43:16 PM  

JohnBigBootay: Danger Mouse: stratagos: Wait, I dont know if I should care about this.

Is he an important player for a team I root for? If so, he was railroaded.

If not, he's obviously a thug who needs to go away for life

I'm a Patriot fan, and I don't think anyone in NE believe he is being  rail roaded.  This guy is a nut case.  And a stupid one at that.

He was a good player though. That's what kills me about the whole OJ thing. Did he murder his wife and that dude? Sure he did. But people forget how awesome a running back he was and now he never even gets mentioned.


I think the whole treating your wife like a turkey being carved up on Thanksgiving would make most people forget how good he was.
 
2014-05-15 03:44:22 PM  

great_tigers: JohnBigBootay: Danger Mouse: stratagos: Wait, I dont know if I should care about this.

Is he an important player for a team I root for? If so, he was railroaded.

If not, he's obviously a thug who needs to go away for life

I'm a Patriot fan, and I don't think anyone in NE believe he is being  rail roaded.  This guy is a nut case.  And a stupid one at that.

He was a good player though. That's what kills me about the whole OJ thing. Did he murder his wife and that dude? Sure he did. But people forget how awesome a running back he was and now he never even gets mentioned.

I think the whole treating your wife like a turkey being carved up on Thanksgiving would make most people forget how good he was.


But she WAS a huge biatch.
 
2014-05-15 03:58:08 PM  

Slackfumasta: great_tigers: JohnBigBootay: Danger Mouse: stratagos: Wait, I dont know if I should care about this.

Is he an important player for a team I root for? If so, he was railroaded.

If not, he's obviously a thug who needs to go away for life

I'm a Patriot fan, and I don't think anyone in NE believe he is being  rail roaded.  This guy is a nut case.  And a stupid one at that.

He was a good player though. That's what kills me about the whole OJ thing. Did he murder his wife and that dude? Sure he did. But people forget how awesome a running back he was and now he never even gets mentioned.

I think the whole treating your wife like a turkey being carved up on Thanksgiving would make most people forget how good he was.

But she WAS a huge biatch.


He's got 99 problems, but a biatch ain't one.
 
2014-05-15 04:01:43 PM  

DecemberNitro: A football player is a murderer?! MY MIND IS BLOWN

/f*ck football and everyone in it


What the fark are you on about?
 
2014-05-15 04:02:47 PM  

jaybeezey: Pro Tip for the idiots out there.

If you use a gun in a crime. Clean that gun up and throw it in the closes large body of flowing water you can find.


Or, you know, be an idiot but don't kill anyone
 
2014-05-15 04:13:04 PM  

Rex Kramer - Danger Seeker: My friend's fantasy pool has a cash prize award when if/when one of your players is arrested, someone wins every year.


So, pick Bengals players?
 
2014-05-15 04:17:56 PM  
Does this mean he can stop murdering the Patriots salary cap?
 
2014-05-15 04:20:08 PM  

litespeed74: Any bets on how long he lasts in jail?
My guess is he kills a few guys, then gets himself killed.


No death penalty in Mass so it's very likely that some lifer will kill him to get his name in the papers.
 
2014-05-15 04:20:20 PM  
Pats still owe him just shy of $4 million. And I don't think they will be able weasel out of it.
 
2014-05-15 04:23:15 PM  

Acravius: ~ Players/Murderers ratio: NHL 1:362.7 --- NFL: 1:299.3
~ # of M's/Player NHL 0.0028 --- NFL: 0.0033
~ Percentage of player muderers NHL 0.28% --- NFL: 0.33%


1) Nice analysis
2) Holy farking shiat - that's like 4-5 times the rate of murderers in the general population.
 
2014-05-15 04:25:06 PM  
memeguy.com
 
2014-05-15 04:32:21 PM  
he isn't white enough to get away with this
 
2014-05-15 04:36:24 PM  

Slackfumasta: I'm probably just missing the joke.


theurbantwist.com

I can't ever bother to learn to tell the difference between the two, but whichever of them is in Miami has made enough of an ass out of himself on other issues that I can't help but assume the other is just as much of a favorited!er.
 
2014-05-15 04:39:53 PM  

Killer Cars: favorited!er.


um, how does rather tame British slang become filter worthy?
 
2014-05-15 04:46:53 PM  

Killer Cars: Slackfumasta: I'm probably just missing the joke.

[theurbantwist.com image 600x387]

I can't ever bother to learn to tell the difference between the two, but whichever of them is in Miami has made enough of an ass out of himself on other issues that I can't help but assume the other is just as much of a favorited!er.


Thanks for that.

/testing filter:  wanker? wanker wanker wanker.  Bollocks?  bollocks bollocks bollocks.  Fanny?  fanny fanny fanny.
 
2014-05-15 04:57:33 PM  
At least he's not a thug. I'm looking at you, Richard Sherman.
 
2014-05-15 05:05:01 PM  

keypusher: Mr. Plinkett, welcome!


fark YOU RICK BERMAN! YOU RUINED THIS TOO?
 
2014-05-15 05:07:15 PM  

SlothB77: so will this trial be after he is convicted of the other murder charge?  "Sure, he was convicted of that other murder, but he totally didn't do these two."


As long as the other two guys don't flip on him, he won't be convicted of the first charge, unfortunately.
 
2014-05-15 05:07:36 PM  

Lost Thought 00: Pats still owe him just shy of $4 million. And I don't think they will be able weasel out of it.


If this murder happened before the contract was signed, I believe they can.
 
2014-05-15 05:07:49 PM  

packman_jon: keypusher: Mr. Plinkett, welcome!

fark YOU RICK BERMAN! YOU RUINED THIS TOO?


My finest line from that review
"Awww Christ, you brought the kid too?"
 
2014-05-15 05:11:56 PM  

jayphat: packman_jon: keypusher: Mr. Plinkett, welcome!

fark YOU RICK BERMAN! YOU RUINED THIS TOO?

My finest line from that review
"Awww Christ, you brought the kid too?"


"I hope he dies"
 
2014-05-15 05:18:28 PM  

packman_jon: jayphat: packman_jon: keypusher: Mr. Plinkett, welcome!

fark YOU RICK BERMAN! YOU RUINED THIS TOO?

My finest line from that review
"Awww Christ, you brought the kid too?"

"I hope he dies"


Serious thought though. Did ANYONE in production of the film ponder the idea of taking a 9 year old child with no real skills unarmed into a combat zone was a good idea, let alone made sense?
 
2014-05-15 05:21:15 PM  

Acravius: As to the numbers of murderers that are or have played in the NHL (7) and NFL (34). If you look at numeric populations for each group, and break it down by the current structures you'll find the following information:

Max # on an                                  NHL Team: 23 ---- NFL Team: 53
Number of                                     NHL Teams: 30  ---- NFL Teams: 32
Max # of players in a season                  NHL: 690 --- NFL: 1696

Number of roster changes                      NHL 3.68 ---- NFL: 6
Average player plays                              NHL 5.7 Yrs  NFL 3.5 Yrs
Number of years                   30 NHL teams 21 Yrs --- 32  NFL Teams: 21 Yrs

~Total players                                          NHL: 2539   ---  NFL: 10176
Murderers per sport                                NHL: 7          ---  NFL: 34
~ Players/Murderers ratio:                    NHL   1:362.7 ---  NFL: 1:299.3
~ # of M's/Player                                   NHL   0.0028  --- NFL: 0.0033
~ Percentage of player muderers         NHL   0.28%   --- NFL: 0.33%

~ Number of players not murderers:       NHL 2532     --- NFL: 10142

While high profile when it happens, Killers in the NHL and the NFL are both relatively close in relative numbers adjusted by population size.


But they're Canadian, they will at least let you call your mom to say goodbye before they kill you.
 
2014-05-15 05:23:31 PM  

great_tigers: JohnBigBootay: Danger Mouse: stratagos: Wait, I dont know if I should care about this.

Is he an important player for a team I root for? If so, he was railroaded.

If not, he's obviously a thug who needs to go away for life

I'm a Patriot fan, and I don't think anyone in NE believe he is being  rail roaded.  This guy is a nut case.  And a stupid one at that.

He was a good player though. That's what kills me about the whole OJ thing. Did he murder his wife and that dude? Sure he did. But people forget how awesome a running back he was and now he never even gets mentioned.

I think the whole treating your wife like a turkey being carved up on Thanksgiving would make most people forget how good he was.


well, and then there is this...most of the people who watch football now never saw him play.  i'm 52, so, i remember him...but, for the 40 and under crowd it's just video.

he was an incredible runner, though...imho, in the top 3, behind barry sanders and ahead of brown.  though his style was infinitely more like sanders, though.
 
2014-05-15 05:26:48 PM  

jayphat: Serious thought though. Did ANYONE in production of the film ponder the idea of taking a 9 year old child with no real skills unarmed into a combat zone was a good idea, let alone made sense?


Probably more than a few.  As was pointed out near the end of the review, no one questioned or challenged Lucas.
 
2014-05-15 05:29:09 PM  
If people didn't like seeing Michael Sam getting kissed on the mouth by his boyfriend when he was drafted, wait'll they see how this guy's cellmate greets him.
 
2014-05-15 05:35:11 PM  

Peaceboy: If people didn't like seeing Michael Sam getting kissed on the mouth by his boyfriend when he was drafted, wait'll they see how this guy's cellmate greets him.


Bit better effort then the whole TE/WR thing that got old after the first one was written and some other juvenile ones.  On a more serious related comment, isn't he in isolation because he kept randomly kicking the shiat out of other inmates?
 
2014-05-15 05:35:53 PM  

packman_jon: jayphat: Serious thought though. Did ANYONE in production of the film ponder the idea of taking a 9 year old child with no real skills unarmed into a combat zone was a good idea, let alone made sense?

Probably more than a few.  As was pointed out near the end of the review, no one questioned or challenged Lucas.


Who brought the farking fanboy shiat to stink up this thread?
 
2014-05-15 05:43:48 PM  
"Suck Murder" is going to be the name of my new alt rock band.
 
2014-05-15 05:57:23 PM  

JerkStore: I'm always curious about the psychology of a guy like this. What's his end-game? He's got more money than he can spend already from football, he's got women, cars, goes to clubs and gets treated like a VIP, whatever he wants. He's respected in his profession, despite that profession being a game. The world is pretty much open to him and if he's smart, he'll never have to do a real day's work in his life. He will live better than 99% of the known universe and all he has to do is not kill people.

So why the stupid gang shiat? What was he getting there that he couldn't get from all the other stuff (aside from the fun of shooting people, I guess). Was he just so pampered because he was an athlete that he never figured he'd get caught? Is reality so distorted that he doesn't even have a concept of murder or consequences? Is his ego really so big and fragile that someone mouthing off at a club is a hunt-and-kill offense? Does he go home afterwards and feel proud of what he's accomplished? How does he define success?

In short, what kind of life are you hoping to lead if you expect your night out on the town to involve killing people?

I know there's no rational explanation for murder, but WTF must be going through this guy's mind? I can't even conceive of a brain so alien that any of this would seem reasonable to someone in his position.


"Why the stupid gang shiat?" Gang is supposed to be for life. I've heard it stressed that Gang is Family. But I'm going to go out on a limb here and say that not every gang member out there does stupid assed shiat either. There are a lot of sociological and cultural reasons for why gangs exist and what behaviors are expected within the gang. Going off half-cocked and doing a non-authorized drive by isn't a sanctioned gang activity.

A psycopath is a psychopath, regardless of his pay scale and social upbringing. A man fueled by rage and imagined slights is bound to make a name for himself in an unsavory way. You look at a confrontation at a night club as being a nuisance and something you wouldn't want to derail your career. That's thinking using intellect and logic, not emotion. Couple standard emotional responses with narcissism and unregulated aggression, and you have all the answers you need.
 
2014-05-15 05:58:09 PM  

lilbjorn: Lost Thought 00: Pats still owe him just shy of $4 million. And I don't think they will be able weasel out of it.

If this murder happened before the contract was signed, I believe they can.


So the DA is sitting around his office surfin' the web thinking, "how the Pats gonna get more cap space? Oh shiat!! Cheryl!! Get hoodie on the line!!"
 
2014-05-15 06:47:08 PM  

cptjeff: MFAWG: How the fark did this guy escape notice for so long? It's not like he just woke up one morning and said ' I think I'll become a gangbanger today'

People had to notice this guy had more than casual gang ties.

I'm sure they noticed, but since he was really good at football, didn't care. It's the American way.


Unfortunately this is probably true.
 
2014-05-15 06:53:06 PM  

themunsterfullback: Peaceboy: If people didn't like seeing Michael Sam getting kissed on the mouth by his boyfriend when he was drafted, wait'll they see how this guy's cellmate greets him.

Bit better effort then the whole TE/WR thing that got old after the first one was written and some other juvenile ones.  On a more serious related comment, isn't he in isolation because he kept randomly kicking the shiat out of other inmates?


Yep, he's quite the violent one. What other celebrity inmate has landed in isolation because they're a danger to other inmates and not the reverse?
 
2014-05-15 08:47:40 PM  

rynthetyn: themunsterfullback: Peaceboy: If people didn't like seeing Michael Sam getting kissed on the mouth by his boyfriend when he was drafted, wait'll they see how this guy's cellmate greets him.

Bit better effort then the whole TE/WR thing that got old after the first one was written and some other juvenile ones.  On a more serious related comment, isn't he in isolation because he kept randomly kicking the shiat out of other inmates?

Yep, he's quite the violent one. What other celebrity inmate has landed in isolation because they're a danger to other inmates and not the reverse?


Martha Stewart
 
2014-05-15 09:57:20 PM  
it's going to be interesting watching patriots highlights from 2010-2012 including the super bowl, dude wasn't on defense so it's harder to ignore
 
2014-05-15 10:36:48 PM  
vudukungfu:I can get behind that.
It's farking un-American.


Invented in America and played almost exclusively in America.

It's organized crime.

Not by any meaning of the word.

It's rapey.

Percentage of rapists in the NFL is lower than the general populace.

It's stupid.

So is your work.  And boring.

It's meaningless.

See above.  Also, you post on Fark.  You revel in meaninglessness.

People that get excited about it are getting excited about something stupid and meaningless.

You post on Fark 20+ times per day.

People that do that tend to get murderey.

Again, lower than general populace.

Fark football and fark football fans
fark fantasyfootball while you are at it.
I mean, what is that, like Bronies for football?


yawn.
 
2014-05-15 11:11:31 PM  

QueenMamaBee: Rwa2play: I understand that jurors must be impartial, but when you take a look at this guy:

[media.vcstar.com image 607x811]

doesn't he just scream guilty as sin?

Do his finger tats spell out PIEW?


In addition to being a murderer (allegedly), he is also dyslexic. The tattoo helps him remember which hand to WIPE with.
 
2014-05-16 12:18:23 AM  
If found guilty wouldn't that make him the most prolific murderer in NFL history. With numbers like that, first ballot hall of fame!
 
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