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(USA Today) NewsFlash Aaron Hernandez indicted on two counts of murder, which will have to wait until he finishes his first trial for murder. Judge says that if he could manage to walk from the courtroom back to his cell without murdering anybody, that would be swell   (usatoday.com ) divider line 215
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2014-05-15 02:03:40 PM  

lantawa: Creepy and very large and dangerous Hispanic man is creepy......


Like a guy with the initials G.Z.
 
2014-05-15 02:03:47 PM  

JohnBigBootay: Danger Mouse: stratagos: Wait, I dont know if I should care about this.

Is he an important player for a team I root for? If so, he was railroaded.

If not, he's obviously a thug who needs to go away for life

I'm a Patriot fan, and I don't think anyone in NE believe he is being  rail roaded.  This guy is a nut case.  And a stupid one at that.

He was a good player though. That's what kills me about the whole OJ thing. Did he murder his wife and that dude? Sure he did. But people forget how awesome a running back he was and now he never even gets mentioned.


Well of course not because he turned out to be a murderous peice of human shiat.  Hernadez will go down the same way. I  love football, but have little to no patience for gangsta althletes.
 
2014-05-15 02:03:49 PM  

MugzyBrown: jayphat: No. I'm supporting a sport that has zero tolerance for stupid behavior off the "field" of play. That hold professional athletes to a standard that says "act like a moral human being, you're being paid like it."

Oh I thought you were talking about the NHL.

That's the league where you can break somebody's neck and not get suspended.


Since when? The player safety department had done ALOT to change on ice behavior. Mind you, they still have a ways to go. But its far better behavior than the NFL.
 
2014-05-15 02:05:58 PM  

buckeyebrain: jayphat: JohnBigBootay: Danger Mouse: stratagos: Wait, I dont know if I should care about this.

Is he an important player for a team I root for? If so, he was railroaded.

If not, he's obviously a thug who needs to go away for life

I'm a Patriot fan, and I don't think anyone in NE believe he is being  rail roaded.  This guy is a nut case.  And a stupid one at that.

He was a good player though. That's what kills me about the whole OJ thing. Did he murder his wife and that dude? Sure he did. But people forget how awesome a running back he was and now he never even gets mentioned.

Pete Rose wants a word with you.

Wanna bet?


sensiblechuckle.gif
 
2014-05-15 02:06:46 PM  

jayphat: MugzyBrown: jayphat: Because in any given week, I don't wake up to stuff like this.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_professional_sportspeople_convi ct ed_of_crimes#Ice_hockey

Then you have stuff like:  http://sports.yahoo.com/nhl/blog/puck_daddy/post/Kane-arrested-after- a llegedly-assaulting-robbin?urn=nhl,181695

http://abcnews.go.com/Sports/story?id=100318

http://www.nhl.com/ice/news.htm?id=692733

Per your list, there are 7 hockey players on that list. There are 34 football players. So really, go there again.


Aren't there about twice to three times more NFL players than there are NHL players at any given time?  Percentage wise, about a wash, no?

/don't care enough to do the math
 
2014-05-15 02:07:24 PM  

SlothB77: Khellendros: SlothB77: so will this trial be after he is convicted of the other murder charge?  "Sure, he was convicted of that other murder, but he totally didn't do these two."

In many places, that is the difference between 20 years in jail and a needle. It matters legally and morally.

a prior murder conviction sure doesn't look good in a murder trial.


Is prior conviction isn't going to be admissible. That is, unless Hernandez gets on the stand and says something stupid like "honestly, I've never killed anyone in my life!", in which case it can be offered in rebuttal. But his lawyer won't let him do that.
 
2014-05-15 02:07:36 PM  

jayphat: MugzyBrown: jayphat: Per your list, there are 7 hockey players on that list. There are 34 football players. So really, go there again.

So you're an NHL fan because they're slightly better than NFL players?

That's the logic you're using?

No. I'm supporting a sport that has zero tolerance for stupid behavior off the "field" of play. That hold professional athletes to a standard that says "act like a moral human being, you're being paid like it."


7 isn't 0.
 
2014-05-15 02:08:28 PM  

Super Chronic: SlothB77: Khellendros: SlothB77: so will this trial be after he is convicted of the other murder charge?  "Sure, he was convicted of that other murder, but he totally didn't do these two."

In many places, that is the difference between 20 years in jail and a needle. It matters legally and morally.

a prior murder conviction sure doesn't look good in a murder trial.

Is prior conviction isn't going to be admissible. That is, unless Hernandez gets on the stand and says something stupid like "honestly, I've never killed anyone in my life!", in which case it can be offered in rebuttal. But his lawyer won't let him do that.


*His* prior conviction
 
2014-05-15 02:08:50 PM  

jayphat: Since when? The player safety department had done ALOT to change on ice behavior. Mind you, they still have a ways to go. But its far better behavior than the NFL.


I guess you don't watch a lot of hockey.  http://www.theglobeandmail.com/sports/hockey/leafs-beat/charas-non-su s pension-sparks-debate-among-players/article612410/

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/puck-daddy/james-neal-is-everything-th at -s-wrong-with-nhl--according-to-former-ref-201646149.html
 
2014-05-15 02:09:01 PM  

Crocoduck: Well, on the positive side, dude was keeping it real.


when keeping it real goes wrong
 
2014-05-15 02:09:16 PM  
Remember "Hernandezing" - that was cool. Aaron, you going away for long time.
 
2014-05-15 02:09:19 PM  

algrant33: "Hey! Try not to suck murder any dicks on the way through the parking lot!"

[img.fark.net image 259x194]


immediately what I thought of.
 
2014-05-15 02:09:22 PM  

vudukungfu: DecemberNitro: /f*ck football and everyone in it

I can get behind that.
It's farking un-American.
It's organized crime.
It's rapey.
It's stupid.
It's meaningless.
People that get excited about it are getting excited about something stupid and meaningless.
People that do that tend to get murderey.
Fark football and fark football fans
fark fantasyfootball while you are at it.
I mean, what is that, like Bronies for football?


Maybe we can adopt the European attitude.  Or perhaps the Latin American one.  On second thought, China and SE Asia are the least sport-oholic regions I can think of right now, and that assumes gambling is not a sport.
 
2014-05-15 02:09:23 PM  

Latinwolf: jayphat: MugzyBrown: jayphat: Per your list, there are 7 hockey players on that list. There are 34 football players. So really, go there again.

So you're an NHL fan because they're slightly better than NFL players?

That's the logic you're using?

No. I'm supporting a sport that has zero tolerance for stupid behavior off the "field" of play. That hold professional athletes to a standard that says "act like a moral human being, you're being paid like it."

7 isn't 0.


Jayphat loves white people. There, I simplified it for everyone.
 
2014-05-15 02:10:10 PM  

Trik: so he feels he's entitled to kill whomever he wants because he's gifted in a sport and has been treated special all these years?


He didn't kill people because he's a football player. He did it because he's a psychopath. There are plenty of people who are treated like they're special who manage to keep the murderin to a minimum.
 
2014-05-15 02:12:02 PM  

MugzyBrown: jayphat: Since when? The player safety department had done ALOT to change on ice behavior. Mind you, they still have a ways to go. But its far better behavior than the NFL.

I guess you don't watch a lot of hockey.  http://www.theglobeandmail.com/sports/hockey/leafs-beat/charas-non-su s pension-sparks-debate-among-players/article612410/

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/puck-daddy/james-neal-is-everything-th at -s-wrong-with-nhl--according-to-former-ref-201646149.html


Seriously, are Habs fans gonna keep biatching about that play on the boards? He wasn't out to hurt the guy. He was trying for the puck. Yes it was interference. Yes the guy got injured. And as a result, a flaw in the design of the arenas was found, kinds like when that little girl got killed in Columbus.
 
2014-05-15 02:12:47 PM  

SlothB77: what does that say on his fingers P I E W?  What does that stand for?


stands for "PEW PEW PEW" but he no spel so gud.
 
2014-05-15 02:13:01 PM  
How did he even have time for football with all this murdering going on?  They should just call him a murderer that plays football.
 
2014-05-15 02:14:32 PM  

Empty H: Rwa2play: I understand that jurors must be impartial, but when you take a look at this guy:

doesn't he just scream guilty as sin?

Not really. He looks like every other clean shaven adult that has poor taste in tattoos.


Surprised his lawyers don't have him wearing gloves.
 
2014-05-15 02:14:53 PM  

HaywoodJablonski: Latinwolf: jayphat: MugzyBrown: jayphat: Per your list, there are 7 hockey players on that list. There are 34 football players. So really, go there again.

So you're an NHL fan because they're slightly better than NFL players?

That's the logic you're using?

No. I'm supporting a sport that has zero tolerance for stupid behavior off the "field" of play. That hold professional athletes to a standard that says "act like a moral human being, you're being paid like it."

7 isn't 0.

Jayphat loves white people. There, I simplified it for everyone.


Yes, clearly that's my problem.
/sarcasm
 
2014-05-15 02:15:33 PM  
fark this shiatstain to death, and fark Urban Meyer. Disgraces to the Gator Nation, both of them.
 
2014-05-15 02:16:09 PM  

vudukungfu: medius: thank you for noticing

You have a lady friend?


and she has the body of a 19 year old

and a couple of others in the crawlspace
 
2014-05-15 02:19:22 PM  

medius: vudukungfu: medius: thank you for noticing

You have a lady friend?

and she has the body of a 19 year old

and a couple of others in the crawlspace


You know how I kept mine from escaping? Raid. Use the high volume, low irritant variety. It comes in the blue can.
 
2014-05-15 02:20:31 PM  

JohnBigBootay: Danger Mouse: stratagos: Wait, I dont know if I should care about this.

Is he an important player for a team I root for? If so, he was railroaded.

If not, he's obviously a thug who needs to go away for life

I'm a Patriot fan, and I don't think anyone in NE believe he is being  rail roaded.  This guy is a nut case.  And a stupid one at that.

He was a good player though. That's what kills me about the whole OJ thing. Did he murder his wife and that dude? Sure he did. But people forget how awesome a running back he was and now he never even gets mentioned.


And can't forget his stellar acting! *cough cough*
 
2014-05-15 02:20:32 PM  

vudukungfu: DecemberNitro: /f*ck football and everyone in it

I can get behind that.
It's farking un-American.
It's organized crime.
It's rapey.
It's stupid.
It's meaningless.
People that get excited about it are getting excited about something stupid and meaningless.
People that do that tend to get murderey.
Fark football and fark football fans
fark fantasyfootball while you are at it.
I mean, what is that, like Bronies for football?


vudukungfu: I can get behind that.
It's farking un-American.
It's organized crime.
It's rapey.
It's stupid.
It's meaningless.
People that get excited about it are getting excited about something stupid and meaningless.
People that do that tend to get murderey.
Fark football and fark football fans
fark fantasyfootball while you are at it.
I mean, what is that, like Bronies for football?


I don't care for football or the bronies who follow it, but a lot of things are stupid and meaningless. I love rock concerts and video games and they're a massive waste of time.
 
2014-05-15 02:21:26 PM  

weddingsinger: Empty H: Not really. He looks like every other clean shaven adult that has poor taste in tattoos.

LOL.  Everybody knows people with tatoos are bad people who would murder you and everyone you ever cared about, given half a chance.  ALL of them.

QueenMamaBee: Do his finger tats spell out PIEW?

PIEW!  PIEW!  PIEW!

Seems very appropriate now, doesn't it?


img.fark.net
 
2014-05-15 02:22:54 PM  
Who?
 
2014-05-15 02:23:33 PM  
I bet the percentage of paralympic runners who are murderers is through the roof.
 
2014-05-15 02:23:46 PM  
I can't believe the patriots didn't have those two murders on film


/notmine
 
2014-05-15 02:28:47 PM  

jayphat: medius: vudukungfu: medius: thank you for noticing

You have a lady friend?

and she has the body of a 19 year old

and a couple of others in the crawlspace

You know how I kept mine from escaping? Raid. Use the high volume, low irritant variety. It comes in the blue can.


Mr. Plinkett, welcome!
 
2014-05-15 02:29:17 PM  

jayphat: It comes in the blue can.


me too

got a fridge full of 'em
 
2014-05-15 02:29:47 PM  

MFAWG: How the fark did this guy escape notice for so long? It's not like he just woke up one morning and said ' I think I'll become a gangbanger today'

People had to notice this guy had more than casual gang ties.


It's been known and hidden by his coaches for a long time. In Florida, they made Tim Tebow his mentor to help him change his ways. Of course, watching Tebow throw the ball will make you want to murder people, especially when his followers claim he's starting material, so maybe the plan wasn't fully thought out down there.
 
2014-05-15 02:33:30 PM  
That is, if he's convicted of the first murder charge.

Last story I read said that case was falling apart fast.  I'm guessing the evidence for the other one isn't too much better

Then there's the small detail of the missing murder weapon.  Basically all there is, as far as I can tell, is circumstantial evidence of his guilt.  Any good attorney that a multi-millionaire NFL player gets can beat that rap easy.

Would not be surprised if he walked completely on all the charges.

Would also not be surprised if he cops a plea to a lesser charge to avoid the chance that he goes to prison for life.  All those millions sitting there for 5-10 years, not being spent, invested wisely by his attorney or agent would make a nice post-release fund.
 
2014-05-15 02:34:00 PM  
jayphat: Seriously, are Habs fans gonna keep biatching about that play on the boards?

I hate the Habs.

Did Patrick Kane get a big suspension for beating up a cab driver?
 
2014-05-15 02:34:05 PM  

medius: jayphat: It comes in the blue can.

me too

got a fridge full of 'em


http://www.awfj.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/redlettermedia13.gif

I keep mine in my bin.
 
2014-05-15 02:34:12 PM  

Rwa2play: I understand that jurors must be impartial, but when you take a look at this guy:

[media.vcstar.com image 607x811]

doesn't he just scream guilty as sin?


Please tell me that the knuckle tats that say "PIEN" is half of the word "CHAMPIEN" across both hands.
 
2014-05-15 02:36:05 PM  

LeroyBourne: The NBA PR team needs to jump on this stat!


I didn't know he was Puerto Rican.
 
2014-05-15 02:42:25 PM  

MugzyBrown: jayphat: Seriously, are Habs fans gonna keep biatching about that play on the boards?

I hate the Habs.

Did Patrick Kane get a big suspension for beating up a cab driver?


You mean, the incident where the cab driver and his attorney said that it was clearly blown out of proportion?

Look, I'm not whitewashing the NHL here. But with only twice as many players, let's not think for a moment that the NHL is even remotely close to the behavior problems the NFL is. Hell, they suspend you for insulting a player whose dating your ex girlfriend.
 
2014-05-15 02:46:00 PM  

jayphat: MugzyBrown: jayphat: Seriously, are Habs fans gonna keep biatching about that play on the boards?

I hate the Habs.

Did Patrick Kane get a big suspension for beating up a cab driver?

You mean, the incident where the cab driver and his attorney said that it was clearly blown out of proportion?

Look, I'm not whitewashing the NHL here. But with only twice as many players, let's not think for a moment that the NHL is even remotely close to the behavior problems the NFL is. Hell, they suspend you for insulting a player whose dating your ex girlfriend.


I wonder if it's also a question of prestige - do we not hear about it because the NFL is printing money right now, and the NHL is below MLB and even with NBA?

/someone correct me if I'm wrong on that
//I'm a fan of both sports btw
 
2014-05-15 02:46:50 PM  
I'm always curious about the psychology of a guy like this. What's his end-game? He's got more money than he can spend already from football, he's got women, cars, goes to clubs and gets treated like a VIP, whatever he wants. He's respected in his profession, despite that profession being a game. The world is pretty much open to him and if he's smart, he'll never have to do a real day's work in his life. He will live better than 99% of the known universe and all he has to do is not kill people.

So why the stupid gang shiat? What was he getting there that he couldn't get from all the other stuff (aside from the fun of shooting people, I guess). Was he just so pampered because he was an athlete that he never figured he'd get caught? Is reality so distorted that he doesn't even have a concept of murder or consequences? Is his ego really so big and fragile that someone mouthing off at a club is a hunt-and-kill offense? Does he go home afterwards and feel proud of what he's accomplished? How does he define success?

In short, what kind of life are you hoping to lead if you expect your night out on the town to involve killing people?

I know there's no rational explanation for murder, but WTF must be going through this guy's mind? I can't even conceive of a brain so alien that any of this would seem reasonable to someone in his position.
 
2014-05-15 02:48:10 PM  

Killer Cars: I wonder how the Pouncey twins are reacting to the news.


Is there some part of the story I'm missing?  I haven't ready too much about this; are the Pounceys possibly involved?

I'm probably just missing the joke.
 
2014-05-15 02:49:00 PM  
Any bets on how long he lasts in jail?
My guess is he kills a few guys, then gets himself killed.
 
2014-05-15 02:51:30 PM  

JerkStore: I'm always curious...


No doubt would be interesting. Many pro athletes throw away careers on drugs and crime but this goes beyond them all, further even than the enculturation of gang culture. Some try and move large amounts of drugs, fight dogs, but this guy is a genuine psychotic with freakish natural abilities. What made him or contributed to his condition would no doubt be fascinating.
 
2014-05-15 02:51:45 PM  
Mel Kiper commented that at this point he has limited upside and is number 4 on his 2118 TE depth chart.
 
2014-05-15 02:52:06 PM  

Rwa2play: I understand that jurors must be impartial, but when you take a look at this guy:

[media.vcstar.com image 607x811]

doesn't he just scream guilty as sin?


I hope you never serve on a jury.
 
2014-05-15 02:55:10 PM  
"Listen, there's no proof of anything except that this guy is a sensational athlete!"
 
2014-05-15 03:00:32 PM  

Heamer: Rwa2play: I understand that jurors must be impartial, but when you take a look at this guy:

[media.vcstar.com image 607x811]

doesn't he just scream guilty as sin?

I hope you never serve on a jury.


Dude, I'm more enlightened than most jurors.  I wouldn't necessarily doubt his character based on his tatts.

In our society, there's a helluva lot of ignorant people picked as jurors.
 
2014-05-15 03:03:00 PM  
i gotta say, who ever posted the first link of convicted athletes. bravo. that has some awesome reading in it
with some shockingly good charges
 
2014-05-15 03:03:57 PM  

JerkStore: I'm always curious about the psychology of a guy like this. What's his end-game? He's got more money than he can spend already from football, he's got women, cars, goes to clubs and gets treated like a VIP, whatever he wants. He's respected in his profession, despite that profession being a game. The world is pretty much open to him and if he's smart, he'll never have to do a real day's work in his life. He will live better than 99% of the known universe and all he has to do is not kill people.

So why the stupid gang shiat? What was he getting there that he couldn't get from all the other stuff (aside from the fun of shooting people, I guess). Was he just so pampered because he was an athlete that he never figured he'd get caught? Is reality so distorted that he doesn't even have a concept of murder or consequences? Is his ego really so big and fragile that someone mouthing off at a club is a hunt-and-kill offense? Does he go home afterwards and feel proud of what he's accomplished? How does he define success?

In short, what kind of life are you hoping to lead if you expect your night out on the town to involve killing people?

I know there's no rational explanation for murder, but WTF must be going through this guy's mind? I can't even conceive of a brain so alien that any of this would seem reasonable to someone in his position.


Wanna know how I know you don't know fark-all about football?
 
2014-05-15 03:07:22 PM  
Hernandez also faces charges in the death of 27-year-old Odin Lloyd in North Attleborough, Mass. last year.

Hernandez has pleaded not guilty to murder in the Lloyd case. He was arrested and charged last June 26 and is being held without bail after Lloyd's body was found near his North Attleborough home June 17.


Hernandez will get out of that one, he didn't do it.

Turns out Lloyd was illiterate and could only learn to read by hanging out by a tree in his back yard and stabbing himself in the side.

So sad. But he'll be back in a few days.
 
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