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(Daily Mail)   10 year old boy finds 10 thousand in cash in hotel room and does the right thing by turning it in to police, and learns a valuable lesson early in life   (dailymail.co.uk) divider line 279
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2014-05-15 12:20:00 PM  
Take hope in the fact that for every "Moron finds a sh*tload of cash - turns it in" story, there's got to be many, many more tales of "Person finds sh*tload of cash - keeps it to themself and spends it in small amounts because they obviously deserve it more than some moron carrying that much cash around to lose it". You just don't get to read any articles about it.
 
2014-05-15 12:27:29 PM  

TV's Vinnie: Take hope in the fact that for every "Moron finds a sh*tload of cash - turns it in" story, there's got to be many, many more tales of "Person finds sh*tload of cash - keeps it to themself and spends it in small amounts because they obviously deserve it more than some moron carrying that much cash around to lose it". You just don't get to read any articles about it.


I enjoyed the part about how the police have it safely tucked away in their safe.

If I found cash I would thank whatever fate or deity dropped it upon me and move along.
 
2014-05-15 12:45:24 PM  

JoieD'Zen: If I found cash I would thank whatever fate or deity dropped it upon me and move along.


In certain states, that's actually a form of larceny and if someone finds out about it, you can get charged for it.
 
2014-05-15 12:49:14 PM  

RexTalionis: JoieD'Zen: If I found cash I would thank whatever fate or deity dropped it upon me and move along.

In certain states, that's actually a form of larceny and if someone finds out about it, you can get charged for it.


IF they find out about it. The key is, don't let anyone find out about it and spend it in small amounts here and there over time.

Prepaid credit cards are your friend.
 
2014-05-15 12:57:29 PM  
This part really cracks me up/makes me want to punch a hole int he wall:

"Other steps included tacking a list to the courthouse door and four other public places in the city"

Wouldn't tacking anything on a  courthouse door be seen as vandalism of public property, as well as posting it in four other public places be regarded as littering?

http://blogs.findlaw.com/free_enterprise/2013/03/careful-posting-fly er s-may-not-fly-with-the-law.html

Seems like to get the money you found, you'd have to break the law.

At least I applaud the city's restraint in not posting a sign that read "BEWARE OF THE LEOPARD"


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IMO, just keep the damn money, and spend it in small amounts over time, via prepaid debit cards. Honesty is what rich people use to keep the peasants in line.
 
2014-05-15 01:49:38 PM  

TV's Vinnie: RexTalionis: JoieD'Zen: If I found cash I would thank whatever fate or deity dropped it upon me and move along.

In certain states, that's actually a form of larceny and if someone finds out about it, you can get charged for it.

IF they find out about it. The key is, don't let anyone find out about it and spend it in small amounts here and there over time.

Prepaid credit cards are your friend.


even if I just used it for gas money (about $50 a week), it could keep my going for a few years.
 
2014-05-15 01:59:27 PM  
Kind of a Catch-22, either get the police involved or there is a good chance The Absent Minded Coke-Lord (one of Disney's more chilling characters) introduces you to his little friend when you and Jr. head for checkout.
 
2014-05-15 02:05:47 PM  
I'd just take it and pay cash at the gas station and for lunches/dinners for the next 3-4 years. I would not say a word about it to anyone.

Or if it was more money than I could use up in that way, I'd call a lawyer and anonymously donate whatever amount was beyond my ability to spend inconspicuously to a handful of charities.
 
2014-05-15 02:07:56 PM  

TV's Vinnie: This part really cracks me up/makes me want to punch a hole int he wall:

"Other steps included tacking a list to the courthouse door and four other public places in the city"


Yeah, that's pretty rage-inducing.  But it wasn't theirs to begin with; I clicked in the story expecting some sort of prosecution for the finder/reporters.  I mean, it sucks that they don't get to be finder-keepers and all, I was just expecting worse.
 
2014-05-15 02:12:53 PM  

factoryconnection: TV's Vinnie: This part really cracks me up/makes me want to punch a hole int he wall:

"Other steps included tacking a list to the courthouse door and four other public places in the city"

Yeah, that's pretty rage-inducing.  But it wasn't theirs to begin with; I clicked in the story expecting some sort of prosecution for the finder/reporters.  I mean, it sucks that they don't get to be finder-keepers and all, I was just expecting worse.


I'm sure it'll get worse for them. Especially when bills come due or there is a sudden illness in the family. Then that feel hits them as they go "Gee I wish I had an extra ten grand so I could afford that operation. Oh wait. We did but we gave it alllll back.".

It's the stories that are never published about the ones who find money and don't give it back who are the real winners in Life.
 
2014-05-15 02:13:36 PM  

factoryconnection: TV's Vinnie: This part really cracks me up/makes me want to punch a hole int he wall:

"Other steps included tacking a list to the courthouse door and four other public places in the city"

Yeah, that's pretty rage-inducing.  But it wasn't theirs to begin with; I clicked in the story expecting some sort of prosecution for the finder/reporters.  I mean, it sucks that they don't get to be finder-keepers and all, I was just expecting worse.


This will create a firm imprint in the kid's mind about 'doing the right thing'. I'm sure he had great plans for the money. 10 is an impressionable age.

/subby
 
2014-05-15 02:21:53 PM  
JoieD'Zen:

This will create a firm imprint in the kid's mind about 'doing the right thing'. I'm sure he had great plans for the money. 10 is an impressionable age.

At least he learned this lesson early. Hopefully he will be a lot less of an honest idiot in the future.
 
2014-05-15 02:24:27 PM  
This classic Good Times episode fits this thread perfectly:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uc-Y8PfswtU&list=PL9763F45176C3A97E
 
2014-05-15 02:33:11 PM  

TV's Vinnie: JoieD'Zen:

This will create a firm imprint in the kid's mind about 'doing the right thing'. I'm sure he had great plans for the money. 10 is an impressionable age.

At least he learned this lesson early. Hopefully he will be a lot less of an honest idiot in the future.


Honesty should be encouraged along with awareness and the reality of the circumstances, etc.
 
2014-05-15 02:36:39 PM  
The girlfriend and I stayed in a Quality Inn on Sunday night. I'm trying to imagine the exact steps I would have taken if I found $10k in a drawer there.

First, it would go into my pocket. I would assume someone nearby likely wanted that cash, very badly.

I would ask her to stay locked in the bathroom, with her phone, while I chucked our suitcases into the car and drove it around to the front entrance. Then I would go back for her, and we'd hit the interstate and travel a couple more exits before finding another room.

We'd use her name to check in at the next place, and then celebrate.
 
2014-05-15 02:38:20 PM  
Mark me down as another one who would not even attempt to turn in any money found.
 
2014-05-15 02:46:08 PM  

RexTalionis: JoieD'Zen: If I found cash I would thank whatever fate or deity dropped it upon me and move along.

In certain states, that's actually a form of larceny and if someone finds out about it, you can get charged for it.


Um, which States?**

**Citation Needed
 
2014-05-15 02:47:52 PM  
that when 10k is on the line, maybe take 5 minutes and google the circumstance you're in?
 
2014-05-15 02:48:31 PM  
Where is it written that he's entitled to ANYthing?

When I was a kid I was taught "If you found something, turn it in!"

You find $10,000?  It's not yours.  Give it to the police.  Your job is done.  You did the right thing!  End of story!
 
2014-05-15 02:49:43 PM  
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The kid probably saved himself a whole hell of a lot of trouble.
 
2014-05-15 02:50:07 PM  
I expected to see he'd been arrested, so at least it wasn't that bad.
 
2014-05-15 02:50:39 PM  

brap: Kind of a Catch-22, either get the police involved or there is a good chance The Absent Minded Coke-Lord (one of Disney's more chilling characters) introduces you to his little friend when you and Jr. head for checkout.


that is a tough one...mobsters can't be all that surprised that someone would have taken the money and spent some of it; plus would they then threaten the finders to make up for the amount spent?

what would they do, threaten you, at which point you can alert the police (and you may be in an area where they have no control over the force there) or go to the police themselves?  I imagine they may just chalk it up to cost of doing business and take the 10k out of the person who lost it.
 
2014-05-15 02:50:45 PM  
"We wish the law allowed us to give it back to him,' he told the Star.

Because , its so hard to just give the kid the farking money. Sheesh.
 
2014-05-15 02:50:49 PM  

brap: Kind of a Catch-22, either get the police involved or there is a good chance The Absent Minded Coke-Lord (one of Disney's more chilling characters) introduces you to his little friend when you and Jr. head for checkout.


Absent-Minded Coke-Lord would most likely be looking for the maid who cleaned the room after he checked out.
 
2014-05-15 02:51:24 PM  
If I find someone else's property left in a hotel room, especially something valuable, I'm going to alert the hotel.

Money qualifies.
 
2014-05-15 02:51:52 PM  
America will always punish someone doing the right thing.
 
2014-05-15 02:52:04 PM  

the_rev: The girlfriend and I stayed in a Quality Inn on Sunday night. I'm trying to imagine the exact steps I would have taken if I found $10k in a drawer there.

First, it would go into my pocket. I would assume someone nearby likely wanted that cash, very badly.

I would ask her to stay locked in the bathroom, with her phone, while I chucked our suitcases into the car and drove it around to the front entrance. Then I would go back for her, and we'd hit the interstate and travel a couple more exits before finding another room.

We'd use her name to check in at the next place, and then celebrate.


My girlfriend and I checked into a hotel in Acapulco once and found several thousand in USD in the in room safe. I immediately put it back and we went to the beach for the day.

Came back and they money was gone.

/CSB
 
2014-05-15 02:52:15 PM  

buntz: Where is it written that he's entitled to ANYthing?

When I was a kid I was taught "If you found something, turn it in!"

You find $10,000?  It's not yours.  Give it to the police.  Your job is done.  You did the right thing!  End of story!


Why are the police or anyone else entitled to it? The kid found it, chances are the money is already in someone's pocket instead of this mythical "forever trust". The kid found it, and you want  someone else to take it?
 
2014-05-15 02:52:58 PM  

the_rev: The girlfriend and I stayed in a Quality Inn on Sunday night. I'm trying to imagine the exact steps I would have taken if I found $10k in a drawer there.

First, it would go into my pocket. I would assume someone nearby likely wanted that cash, very badly.

I would ask her to stay locked in the bathroom, with her phone, while I chucked our suitcases into the car and drove it around to the front entrance. Then I would go back for her, and we'd hit the interstate and travel a couple more exits before finding another room.

We'd use her name to check in at the next place, and then celebrate.


also, cancel the card you used to make the reservation and paid with at the first hotel.  I imagine that would be all the info the hotel would have on you, your name and CC#
 
2014-05-15 02:53:08 PM  
The most valuable lesson in doing the right things is: "Don't do the right thing.  Do the thing that best furthers your interests."
 
2014-05-15 02:53:11 PM  

RexTalionis: JoieD'Zen: If I found cash I would thank whatever fate or deity dropped it upon me and move along.

In certain states, that's actually a form of larceny and if someone finds out about it, you can get charged for it.


Nobody talks, everybody walks.


"If an owner hasn't come forward after four more years, reports The Kansas City Star, police will hand the money over to the state treasurer's office, where it will be kept in trust forever if an owner doesn't come forward. "

Reminds me of:

A man lying on his deathbed called to him, his lawyer, his doctor, and his pastor. "I am going to die tonight," and I want to prove that when you go to heaven you can take it all with you. So to my three most trusted friends, you three of course, I am leaving 50,000 dollars in these envelopes. When I die you must come to my funeral and put the envelopes in my coffin with me." The man handed the three men identical envelopes.

A day later they each received news that, that night the old man had died . So each knew they must go to his funeral and fulfill his death wish.

Standing over the coffin one week later the pastor confessed, " I can't hide what I've done. I took 10,000 dollars from the envelope because the church needed to be painted."

Then as he did so the doctor also started to fidget then finally confessed "I took 30,000 dollars from my envelope because the hospital needed a new wing."

Then the lawyer said plainly "You bunch of crooks! I wrote him a check for the full amount!"
 
2014-05-15 02:53:25 PM  
OMG.  That just goes beyond stupid.  To a ridiculous degree.

This is precisely why if I find $10,000, you can bet your ass that I will turn that $5,000 in to the police immediately!  And I will genuinely hope that the owner of that $2,500 comes forward to claim the $1,000.
 
2014-05-15 02:53:35 PM  
You find 10k? you call the police and say you found 8k.

Everyone is happy, including the real owner if they are found.
 
2014-05-15 02:54:03 PM  

Walker: Mark me down as another one who would not even attempt to turn in any money found.


Seconded. That's a lot of gas money and tolls that I wouldnt have to worry about
 
2014-05-15 02:54:33 PM  

JoieD'Zen: TV's Vinnie: JoieD'Zen:

This will create a firm imprint in the kid's mind about 'doing the right thing'. I'm sure he had great plans for the money. 10 is an impressionable age.

At least he learned this lesson early. Hopefully he will be a lot less of an honest idiot in the future.

Honesty should be encouraged along with awareness and the reality of the circumstances, etc.


i.imgur.com

Boy. You sure are going to have to learn Life's lessons the hard way, huh kid?
 
2014-05-15 02:54:35 PM  

Musikslayer: buntz: Where is it written that he's entitled to ANYthing?

When I was a kid I was taught "If you found something, turn it in!"

You find $10,000?  It's not yours.  Give it to the police.  Your job is done.  You did the right thing!  End of story!

Why are the police or anyone else entitled to it? The kid found it, chances are the money is already in someone's pocket instead of this mythical "forever trust". The kid found it, and you want  someone else to take it?


Because they have guns and are legally allowed to lock you in a small room for life if you don't comply with their every whim.
 
2014-05-15 02:55:36 PM  

MilesTeg: You find 10k? you call the police and say you found 8k.

Everyone is happy, including the real owner if they are found.


Why would the police be happy?  They still need to file the paperwork on the 6K that you gave them.
 
2014-05-15 02:55:52 PM  

Hyjamon: also, cancel the card you used to make the reservation and paid with at the first hotel. I imagine that would be all the info the hotel would have on you, your name and CC#


We didn't have a reservation, we were just traveling and pulled off the interstate. And I paid cash. BUT, I did show my drivers license to the clerk. I don't know whether she made a copy of it.
 
2014-05-15 02:56:04 PM  
The dad is the dumbass, even if you want to portray  the fairytale image that the police will give you your money back he should have known better and told the kid he was bringing it to the police station and then just sat on it and bought him a car when he turned 16 or something.
 
2014-05-15 02:56:13 PM  
10k is an exceedingly small amount of money.  I mean, don't get me wrong, I wouldn't turn it down, but developing an elaborate plan to hide/launder 10k is really overdoing it.

That said, to some people, 10k is a killing amount (and that fact scares the crap out of me).
 
2014-05-15 02:56:15 PM  

buntz: Where is it written that he's entitled to ANYthing?

When I was a kid I was taught "If you found something, turn it in!"

You find $10,000?  It's not yours.  Give it to the police.  Your job is done.  You did the right thing!  End of story!


I bet Nigerian Princes love you long time.
 
2014-05-15 02:56:22 PM  

mcreadyblue: the_rev: The girlfriend and I stayed in a Quality Inn on Sunday night. I'm trying to imagine the exact steps I would have taken if I found $10k in a drawer there.

First, it would go into my pocket. I would assume someone nearby likely wanted that cash, very badly.

I would ask her to stay locked in the bathroom, with her phone, while I chucked our suitcases into the car and drove it around to the front entrance. Then I would go back for her, and we'd hit the interstate and travel a couple more exits before finding another room.

We'd use her name to check in at the next place, and then celebrate.

My girlfriend and I checked into a hotel in Acapulco once and found several thousand in USD in the in room safe. I immediately put it back and we went to the beach for the day.

Came back and they money was gone.

/CSB


Haha the maid had herself a good time with that money. You could have.
 
2014-05-15 02:57:02 PM  

buntz: re is it written that he's entitled to ANYthing?

When I was a kid I was taught "If you found something, turn it in!"

You find $10,000?  It's not yours.  Give it to the police.  Your job is done.  You did the right thing!  End of


I refer you to the landmark Supreme Court case of Finders vs. Keepers.

The kid that found the cash should get it. Seriously: the cops are going to use this for a pig roast or something.  Maybe it'll give him a leg up on college, or pay his bills if he gets sick, or whatever, but because of goofy local laws he's essentially been penalized $10k for doing the right thing.
 
2014-05-15 02:58:03 PM  

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The kid probably saved himself a whole hell of a lot of trouble.


Proof that the only way to get ahead in this world is to either be 1. Born rich, 2. Be a drug dealer or politician

Anyone who gives back a found windfall deserves to be poor. Punishment will happen to them eventually.
 
2014-05-15 02:58:34 PM  
WHY DO THEY TURN THE MONEY IN???
WHY? WHY? WHY? WHY? WHY? WHY?
I just don't understand it...I hope to god the very Boobies here is correct!
 
2014-05-15 02:59:51 PM  
Having checked in under the alias Drew Curtis I would have taken the money and not worried about the popular Disney character Absent Minded Coke Lord.
 
2014-05-15 03:00:05 PM  
Stayed at a resort in Jamaica.

Yup, found some "green" in one of the decorate pots. Along with a rolling machine.

...
 
2014-05-15 03:00:18 PM  

buntz: Where is it written that he's entitled to ANYthing?

When I was a kid I was taught "If you found something, turn it in!"

You find $10,000?  It's not yours.  Give it to the police.  Your job is done.  You did the right thing!  End of story!


yeah, this, basically.

/ unless you're talking treasure.  but, you still aren't entitled to all that either.
 
2014-05-15 03:00:27 PM  

jj325: Absent-Minded Coke-Lord would most likely be looking for the maid who cleaned the room after he checked out.


That's why the whole story is a ruse. Once news leaked about the boy turning the cash in, the Absent-Minded Coke-Lord only had to bide his time. It actually made it easier for him to find out Tyler Schaefer had his money. The involvement with the police was just a temporary setback.


So Tyler Schaefer actually got awarded the cash, with a cover story that it got left in escrow forever.
 
2014-05-15 03:01:01 PM  
The "right" thing to do would have been to keep the money and use it to better your family. Turning it in is merely the legal obligation; nothing to do with right or wrong.

It's amazing how many people don't get past the second level of moral development and genuinely don't understand the difference.
 
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