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2014-05-15 12:11:05 PM  

DarkSoulNoHope: Obama's Reptiloid Master: 1. It's not a final rule.

2. Ruelmaking authority is subservient to legislative power.

3. Congress can always act and supersede the FCC.

4. The solution is therefore that we stop electing Republicans to Congress, or at least any Republican (or Democrat, for that matter) who supports anything less than treating ISPs as common carriers.

Do you really think the Republican led Congress is going to try to change the rules to keep ISPs from making more and more profit? Especially since most (if not all) of those Republican congressmen/women (Democrats too) are lobbied to support these profits through legislation.



Super DERP A++ Would read again.

http://washingtonexaminer.co m/ted-cruz-bill-would-ban-fccs-latest-adve nture-in-net-neutrality/article/2548441
 
2014-05-15 12:11:10 PM  

Outlaw2097: Zuck!  Musk!  Get those damn UAVs airborne and start broadcasting a free internet.


And Google fiber - so they can really know everything about you and then the content providers own the network even more then COMCAST does now :/

You're right about one thing - the only thing that will break this is competition.  Our "public servants" surely won't.  I just don't trust that google, zuckerburg, etc. really have our best interest at heart either.
 
2014-05-15 12:11:45 PM  
Wait just a damn minute..

The measure was voted "for" three to two  along party lines. .

The article quotes a democratic commissioner who "voted for it with misgivings."

Which unless I am very bad at maths, means the democrats voted yes for this and the  republicans voted against.

Not that it matters...
 
2014-05-15 12:11:45 PM  

Hi! I can lick my own eyebrows: Thank FSM that I have enough porn downloaded to last two lifetimes.


You have a thousand terabytes of porn?!?
 
2014-05-15 12:11:57 PM  

dababler: Obama's Reptiloid Master: 1. It's not a final rule.

2. Ruelmaking authority is subservient to legislative power.

3. Congress can always act and supersede the FCC.

4. The solution is therefore that we stop electing Republicans to Congress, or at least any Republican (or Democrat, for that matter) who supports anything less than treating ISPs as common carriers.

Congress can't act. Boehner is letting stupid person Marsha Blackburn spout off how Net Neutrality is socialism and has for like 4 years.


Get the president to act with an executive order.
 
2014-05-15 12:11:57 PM  
I don't see how this won't hurt website revenues. Can anyone explain the end game here?
 
2014-05-15 12:12:25 PM  

spman: I love how ever this becomes a wharrgarbl REPUBLICANS DEMOCRATS BUSH OBAMA issue. It's not, Bush, Obama, Republicans, Democrats, they're all in the pockets of the same big business interests that want to make this happen. This is not a partisan issue.


Now just hold on a cotton pickin' minute.
The partisan con job of Divide and Conquer is time honored and well established.
There is no issue that can protect a slut in power like Partisanship.
You sound like an Anarchist.
 
2014-05-15 12:12:42 PM  

UNAUTHORIZED FINGER: It's time for a revolution.


But it won't happen ... at least until the Boomers die off. That generation holds on to the "MERICA, FARK YA!" delusion with a fervor unmatched by their justifiably cynical children and their completely farked (got our sonny, screw you!) grandchildren. For now, our corporate masters are solidifying their Oligarchy with little resistance and much fanfare.
 
2014-05-15 12:12:59 PM  
OK assholes we tried playing nice. Now its torch and pitchfork time.
ts3.mm.bing.net
 
2014-05-15 12:12:59 PM  

Mikey1969: clkeagle: Mikey1969: Wheeler's proposal is part of a larger "net neutrality" plan that forbids Internet service providers from outright blocking Web sites. And he promised a series of measures to ensure the new paid prioritization practices are done fairly and don't harm consumers. The agency said it had developed a "multifaceted dispute resolution process" on enforcement.
Who the fark is "Wheeler"? The word appears once on the page, right in the quote I posted above. Do they even require an 8th grade education to write for the Washington Post, or can my dog get a job there?


It was an editing mistake... but they probably assume someone interested in the current net neutrality discussion would know who the FCC chairman is.

My point still stands. With no actual editors, "editing mistakes" happen in almost everything we read. It's a farking joke. If Spell Check doesn't catch it, they don't care.


It cannot be classified as an editing "mistake". The Washington Post made a conscious decision to eliminate proof-readers and copy editors, so now it becomes an editing decision. Or if you're militant like I am, an editing crime.
 
2014-05-15 12:13:34 PM  

skozlaw: UNC_Samurai: I can't find the specific language, but the director of our municipal telecom said that they're prohibited by their charter from engaging in anti-neutrality practices. So the only thing we have to worry about is content provider-side extortion.

Not necessarily. Depending on who your provider peers with, those peers, might still be able to extort providers which would still impact you.


If the city built its own FttH infrastructure, would they be peering with other networks?
 
2014-05-15 12:13:45 PM  

scotchlandia: Wait just a damn minute..

The measure was voted "for" three to two  along party lines. .

The article quotes a democratic commissioner who "voted for it with misgivings."

Which unless I am very bad at maths, means the democrats voted yes for this and the  republicans voted against.

Not that it matters...


HaHa, another fool that thinks voting matters.
So cute.
 
2014-05-15 12:13:51 PM  

Obama's Reptiloid Master: dababler: Obama's Reptiloid Master: 1. It's not a final rule.

2. Ruelmaking authority is subservient to legislative power.

3. Congress can always act and supersede the FCC.

4. The solution is therefore that we stop electing Republicans to Congress, or at least any Republican (or Democrat, for that matter) who supports anything less than treating ISPs as common carriers.

Congress can't act. Boehner is letting stupid person Marsha Blackburn spout off how Net Neutrality is socialism and has for like 4 years.

The bill can start in the Senate.

The HoR is farked, sure, but that's the fault of gerrymandering.


Specifically gerrymandering for minority representation that results in packing Democrats into one or two districts.
 
2014-05-15 12:14:07 PM  
Un-f*cking-believable.

The entire country and both Democrats AND Republicans were against this, and it still gets passed. So much for a government of the people, by the people, and for the people. It's for corporations....and has been for a while.
 
2014-05-15 12:14:11 PM  
No one's really surprised by this, are they?

It's amusing (well, OK, it's not amusing, it's appalling) that nitwits in Congress are still going on with their Benghazi bullshiat, but no effort whatsoever to do anything about the direct pipeline between corporations and regulatory agencies. Whereby people who used to work in certain industries are then put in charge of the government agencies that are supposed to regulate them. Then, when they leave, they go right back to the companies they used to "regulate," often as board members.

A normal person would think that constitutes an obvious conflict of interest. But people who work for the govt. at the higher levels aren't normal people. They're mostly rich people who work on behalf of other rich people.
 
2014-05-15 12:14:21 PM  

UNAUTHORIZED FINGER: BarryTheMasterOfSandwich: This country is a joke.

I'm thoroughly disgusted with what it's become. It's time for a revolution. This country in no way resembles the nation of my youth.


If we violently overthrow our government over "internet fees" we will look more silly than the guys who violently overthrew their government over a 1% customs tax to pay for the French & Indian war.

/ Oh... nevermind.
 
2014-05-15 12:14:24 PM  

Lord_Baull: I don't see how this won't hurt website revenues. Can anyone explain the end game here?


The people in power stay in power and continue to make money had over fist. Startups get throttled in the crib so as not to upset any apple carts by providing meaningful competition or innovation.
 
2014-05-15 12:14:54 PM  
Sigh.  And here I was with my faint glimmer of hope that just maybe those who are in charge of protecting the interests of the people would put the greater good before their own personal ambitions and financial interests and stop this before we got farked right in the ass yet again.

This is how people become jaded, cynical assholes.
 
2014-05-15 12:15:02 PM  

UrukHaiGuyz: Lord_Baull: I don't see how this won't hurt website revenues. Can anyone explain the end game here?

The people in power stay in power and continue to make money had hand over fist. Startups get throttled in the crib so as not to upset any apple carts by providing meaningful competition or innovation.


FTFM
 
2014-05-15 12:15:12 PM  

farkingatwork: clkeagle: Coming soon:
[geekometry.com image 520x245]
Or more realistically:
[images.huffingtonpost.com image 501x588]
It's way more simple.
Take your current internet price, multiple it by 3, and that's what you're going to have to pay for what bare minimum shiat you get today. Enjoy!


Nope. Not only will prices go up, but many sites will mysteriously start "timing out" because they haven't worked out a deal with the ISP.

ISP tech services will have canned responses of "Thank you for your question. We are aware that a few websites have been experiencing connectivity issues with our servers. The problem is that there are just too many sites trying to use our bandwidth, and we can only guarantee priority traffic to our Premium Partners. Please contact the administrator of the website in question and encourage them to call our Partner Sales division. Thank you."
 
2014-05-15 12:15:34 PM  

Lamberts Ho Man: I just don't trust that google, zuckerburg, etc. really have our best interest at heart either.


Google and Facebook are beholden to their shareholders. Nothing else. Whenever a company goes IPO it inherently becomes evil. It has no choice but to do so, and even if the founders are still at the helm, their personal opinions are trumped by shareholder interests.
 
2014-05-15 12:15:53 PM  

Professor Duck: So, how long until we're charged by the Mb for service?


5 years.
 
2014-05-15 12:15:59 PM  

Prophet of Loss: UNAUTHORIZED FINGER: It's time for a revolution.

But it won't happen ... at least until the Boomers die off. That generation holds on to the "MERICA, FARK YA!" delusion with a fervor unmatched by their justifiably cynical children and their completely farked (got our sonny, screw you!) grandchildren. For now, our corporate masters are solidifying their Oligarchy with little resistance and much fanfare.


Another effort at Dividing and Conquering, or are you just misinformed?

Your fantasy "Boomers" ended the Vietnem War.
Whatcha all done lately?
Riot in Chicago? NO!
Occupy Kent State and elect martyrs, Hell NO!
 
2014-05-15 12:16:42 PM  

ikanreed: Okay, we need a backup plan.

Digging up cables of companies that do this?  Boycotts?  Class action lawsuit for failure to deliver promised service?



Digging up cables probably isn't the way to go -- they'd just label you a terrorist and throw you in Guantanamo.  ...though, if you knew anything about the way the backbone cables are laid out, it'd probably be very easy to cause a lot of disruption with minimal effort and relatively little risk.  There's a lot of infrastructure in remote places.
 
2014-05-15 12:16:46 PM  

Walker: Un-f*cking-believable.

The entire country and both Democrats AND Republicans were against this, and it still gets passed. So much for a government of the people, by the people, and for the people. It's for corporations....and has been for a while.


Is and always has been, Government In Spite of The People.
 
2014-05-15 12:16:47 PM  

bighairyguy: Oh, and you now have to pay internet postage for all your emails too.


We'll be OK though, because Bill Gates is going to send us money.
 
2014-05-15 12:17:22 PM  

jshine: ikanreed: Okay, we need a backup plan.

Digging up cables of companies that do this?  Boycotts?  Class action lawsuit for failure to deliver promised service?


Digging up cables probably isn't the way to go -- they'd just label you a terrorist and throw you in Guantanamo.  ...though, if you knew anything about the way the backbone cables are laid out, it'd probably be very easy to cause a lot of disruption with minimal effort and relatively little risk.  There's a lot of infrastructure in remote places.


Yea, it didn't work on Gilligan's Island either.
 
2014-05-15 12:17:40 PM  
Even one of the Democratic commissioners who voted yes on Thursday expressed some misgivings about how the proposal had been handled.

"I would have done this differently. I would have taken the time to consider the future," said Democratic Commissioner Jessica Rosenworcel, who said the proposal can't allow for clear fast lanes for the most privileged companies. She said she supported a proposal allowing the agency to consider questions on how it could prevent certain Web sites from being blocked, in addition to figuring out the overall oversight of broadband Internet providers.

"I believe the process that got us to rulemaking today was flawed," she said.  "I would have preferred a delay.


THEN WHY THE F*CK DID YOU VOTE YES IDIOT????
 
2014-05-15 12:17:57 PM  
Everything is run by bribery and graft in the United States of Avarice, a corrupt banana republic that is no longer part of the civilized world.
 
2014-05-15 12:18:00 PM  

UNAUTHORIZED FINGER: This country in no way resembles the nation of my youth.


You sound like every onion-on-the-belt old man from every generation ever.
 
2014-05-15 12:18:11 PM  
Lesse... gay marriage and cannabis legaization moving forward... on the otherhand lots of shiat like this.

Godammit America, quit forcing this balancing act of epic crazy.
 
2014-05-15 12:18:12 PM  

I alone am best: DarkSoulNoHope: Obama's Reptiloid Master: 1. It's not a final rule.

2. Ruelmaking authority is subservient to legislative power.

3. Congress can always act and supersede the FCC.

4. The solution is therefore that we stop electing Republicans to Congress, or at least any Republican (or Democrat, for that matter) who supports anything less than treating ISPs as common carriers.

Do you really think the Republican led Congress is going to try to change the rules to keep ISPs from making more and more profit? Especially since most (if not all) of those Republican congressmen/women (Democrats too) are lobbied to support these profits through legislation.


Super DERP A++ Would read again.

http://washingtonexaminer.co m/ted-cruz-bill-would-ban-fccs-latest-adve nture-in-net-neutrality/article/2548441


Until Ted Cruz actually announces what he is proposing to do (all he says in the article [which is carbon copied from his website, I checked] is that he wants Congress and not the FCC to rule on Net Neutrality), it doesn't say "I am going to continue Net Neutrality" (though if that's what he is proposing, a broken clock is right twice a day).
 
2014-05-15 12:18:19 PM  
Internet 2: Electric Bugaloo
 
2014-05-15 12:18:25 PM  
i.imgur.com
 
2014-05-15 12:18:33 PM  

Richard C Stanford: Paris1127: Fark needs to think of some revolutionary slogans for a free internet... Live Stream or Die? The Internet will not be televised? I'm really bad at this...

F**k The FCC!
You can have my Netflicks when you pry them from my cold, dead hands!
Keep the Internet free!


Don't fark with a free and open Internet!
 
2014-05-15 12:18:39 PM  

Lord_Baull: I don't see how this won't hurt website revenues. Can anyone explain the end game here?


If you have a website that can't afford to pay your local ISP the entrance fee, you won't be able to get as many clients/visitors, and it will lower your revenue.
 
2014-05-15 12:19:12 PM  
From the FCC's page:

The FCC is directed by five commissioners appointed by the president of the United States and confirmed by the U.S. Senate for five-year terms, except when filling an unexpired term. The president designates one of the commissioners to serve as chairman. Only three commissioners may be members of the same political party, and none can have a financial interest in any commission-related business.

 it's clear where the fault lies... yet I'm sure the minority party will do nothing to overturn it.
 
2014-05-15 12:19:24 PM  

Sin_City_Superhero: UNAUTHORIZED FINGER: This country in no way resembles the nation of my youth.

You sound like every onion-on-the-belt old man from every generation ever.


And the hell of it is, I look like Archie Bunker!
 
2014-05-15 12:19:28 PM  

UrukHaiGuyz: UrukHaiGuyz: Lord_Baull: I don't see how this won't hurt website revenues. Can anyone explain the end game here?

The people in power stay in power and continue to make money had hand over fist. Startups get throttled in the crib so as not to upset any apple carts by providing meaningful competition or innovation.

FTFM


In essence, just another example of corporate oligarchism.
 
2014-05-15 12:19:32 PM  

Paris1127: Richard C Stanford: Paris1127: Fark needs to think of some revolutionary slogans for a free internet... Live Stream or Die? The Internet will not be televised? I'm really bad at this...

F**k The FCC!
You can have my Netflicks when you pry them from my cold, dead hands!
Keep the Internet free!

Don't fark with a free and open Internet!


Stupid filter... "fark" was supposed to be FCC plus the letter k...
 
2014-05-15 12:19:36 PM  

Professor Duck: So, how long until we're charged by the Mb for service?


So back to block pricing fr ok m dial up days eh?
9.99 for 20hrs*

*basic service, capped at 30gigs of bandy, only available every second Tuesday after 9 pm
 
2014-05-15 12:19:36 PM  

Walker: Un-f*cking-believable.

The entire country and both Democrats AND Republicans were against this, and it still gets passed. So much for a government of the people, by the people, and for the people. It's for corporations....and has been for a while.


Duh.

Oh and Comcast is already drooling over it ..

Comcast may roll out data caps for all customers within five years
 
2014-05-15 12:19:36 PM  

EdNortonsTwin: Just wrote my Senator, again.


I will tonight. Again. EFF is a good resource for that.
 
2014-05-15 12:20:09 PM  

The Homer Tax: mod3072: So the Obama-appointed telecom industry shills voted to protect telecom profits at the expense of the consumer and free expression?? I blame Republicans. DAMN YOU, REPUBLICANS!!!

Are the republicans using their house majority to draft new legislation preventing companies from doing this? The regulatory powers of the regulatory bodies are determined by the laws enacted by the legislature. What are the republicans doing with their house majority to stop this?

Oh, having another Benghazi investigation? Awesome.


Doing as much as they did to stop Obamacare.

/which to say, everything they can, yet far from enough
//the only power the "House Republican Majority" has is to be a convenient scapegoat to blame for the continuing failure of leftist policies
///just like the sequester, Obama can shut everything down personally, and yet the Republicans still get blamed for making him pitch that temper tantrum with their naysaying
 
2014-05-15 12:20:40 PM  

snocone: Prophet of Loss: UNAUTHORIZED FINGER: It's time for a revolution.

But it won't happen ... at least until the Boomers die off. That generation holds on to the "MERICA, FARK YA!" delusion with a fervor unmatched by their justifiably cynical children and their completely farked (got our sonny, screw you!) grandchildren. For now, our corporate masters are solidifying their Oligarchy with little resistance and much fanfare.

Another effort at Dividing and Conquering, or are you just misinformed?

Your fantasy "Boomers" ended the Vietnem War.
Whatcha all done lately?
Riot in Chicago? NO!
Occupy Kent State and elect martyrs, Hell NO!


No offense to the ideological protesters of the Vietnam War, but it's a f*ckload easier to get people in the streets if they're worried about being drafted. You guys got sold on the most crackpot economic bullsh*t theory, and bought it because of greed. We're still suffering through the effects of Reaganomics, and trends don't look good.
 
2014-05-15 12:20:45 PM  
To get this to change you'll have to hit 'em where it hurts, right in the pocket book.

I'm thinking we all need to set up a website where folks sign up to show that they will be cutting their internet service if this goes through and has an alternative bill for congress to pass instead that actually has what we want in it. We'll do it in batches: A-C on day 1, D-F day 2, and so forth. So they can see the tide rolling in as it were.

Comcast is the major player here, along with a couple others. If they are flooded with cancellations over this they'll have to change.
 
2014-05-15 12:20:48 PM  

Stone Meadow: Oh yeah, I forgot to ask...does this mean Oblackguy is acting as Imperial Emperor in this case, or Spineless Lackey?

/it's so hard to keep up


Oh, you mean the blatant bowing to corporations and allowing them to write the rules by which they pinkie-swear that they'll abide by, honest, but just to be sure don't actually watch what they're doing?

Yep. Typical socialist redistribution.
 
2014-05-15 12:20:57 PM  

Unoriginal_Username: Professor Duck: So, how long until we're charged by the Mb for service?

So back to block pricing fr ok m dial up days eh?
9.99 for 20hrs*

*basic service, capped at 30gigs of bandy, only available every second Tuesday after 9 pm


Bandwidth, stupid auto correct
 
2014-05-15 12:22:46 PM  

snocone: Prophet of Loss: UNAUTHORIZED FINGER: It's time for a revolution.

But it won't happen ... at least until the Boomers die off. That generation holds on to the "MERICA, FARK YA!" delusion with a fervor unmatched by their justifiably cynical children and their completely farked (got our sonny, screw you!) grandchildren. For now, our corporate masters are solidifying their Oligarchy with little resistance and much fanfare.

Another effort at Dividing and Conquering, or are you just misinformed?

Your fantasy "Boomers" ended the Vietnem War.
Whatcha all done lately?
Riot in Chicago? NO!
Occupy Kent State and elect martyrs, Hell NO!


You sound old.
 
2014-05-15 12:22:59 PM  
This will lead to spending more time with your loved ones, outdoors.

Someone has got to do something!


"Dear congressperson:  This will impact your Ashley Madison usage"
 
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