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2014-05-15 11:59:28 AM  
TFA: "Wheeler's proposal is part of a larger "net neutrality" plan that forbids Internet service providers from outright blocking Web sites. And he promised a series of measures to ensure the new paid prioritization practices are done fairly and don't harm consumers"

This is why they get the big bucks.  Because they can say shiat like this with a straight face.

Also note: "net neutrality" with a no-block guarantee is *a plan*.  "paid prioritization" is *a proposal*.
Let me give you a free preview of how this is going to work out:  the pro-business parts will go into effect while the pro-consumer parts are still being debated.  The pro-consumer parts will then be fought based on the idea that we can't harm this business that represents X-gajillion dollars of economic activity -- in a slow economy no less. Besides, they'll say, there haven't been any problems yet, so why not just allow business to self-regulate while we hammer out the details?  Which will never be hammered out, nor killed, but just quietly left to collect dust and provide CYA against claims that the FCC isn't doing their job. "B-b-but we have plans!" they'll say.
 
2014-05-15 11:59:37 AM  

pkellmey: Someone could always think a little differently, but I doubt they would get a seat on the panel.


"edited by jon huntsman"

oh ok
 
2014-05-15 11:59:54 AM  
Republicans siding with the larger corporations and in turn duking the small businesses?

i45.photobucket.com
 
2014-05-15 11:59:58 AM  

LeroyBourne: *unloads my 2 terabyte external hard-drive*


keep talking dirty
 
2014-05-15 12:00:14 PM  
Ah, the checks cleared.
 
2014-05-15 12:00:21 PM  

Fart_Machine: Trickle down Internet.


yup

Reagan lives on.
 
2014-05-15 12:00:28 PM  
So the Obama-appointed telecom industry shills voted to protect telecom profits at the expense of the consumer and free expression?? I blame Republicans. DAMN YOU, REPUBLICANS!!!
 
2014-05-15 12:00:47 PM  

I_Am_Weasel: Let them have their gold plated fibre cables!

We'll have carrier pigeons with USB drives!


wanderbug.files.wordpress.com

FILL IT WITH TAPES AND GO!
 
2014-05-15 12:00:54 PM  
The telecom companies argue that without being able to charge tech firms for higher-speed connections, they will be unable to invest in faster connections for consumers for rich people.

Anyone who thinks that we schlubs would ever get a glimpse of these higher bandwiths unless we would have to fork over an assload each month is smoking meth.
 
2014-05-15 12:00:54 PM  

LeroyB: Wow, I remember the "olde days" when dial-up connections were charged by the minute.

Once I went to an "always on" cable-modem almost 15 years ago I never thought I might be going back to that. Hello overage charges.


Just one of 20 NEW CHARGES that this will implement.
 
2014-05-15 12:01:00 PM  

Farking Canuck: Keep voting in republicans giving your money to Reed Hastings. That's the way to protect the little guy.


Who intentionally broke the DVD streaming business to give you a worse selection of content via online streaming? Reed Hastings.

Who ignored the fact that high-def, fast-buffering online streaming is not a sustainable business model at anything remotely close to the cost of the DVD service you used to have? Reed Hastings.

Who is stupid enough to have gone a step further and started streaming 4K content? Reed Hastings.

Who ignored the fact that, by switching to online streaming, his company and customers would find themselves at the mercy of the world's least popular, least ethical media/tech businesses like Comcast and their ilk? Reed Hastings.

Who broke ranks with the rest of the web and voluntarily started paying bribes to Comcast and their ilk, then raised prices for his own customers to cover the cost, in effect becoming the first major net business to vote against net neutrality? Reed Hastings.

The person on whose doorstep you should be crapping is Reed Hastings, and if you sign up for his streaming service, you deserve precisely what you're getting -- shafted.
 
2014-05-15 12:01:04 PM  

kling_klang_bed: Republicans siding with the larger corporations and in turn duking the small businesses?

[i45.photobucket.com image 240x189]


Giving us the vapors!
 
2014-05-15 12:01:06 PM  
*sigh* I get too much use out of this quote lately:

"As the Americans learned so painfully in Earth's final century, free flow of information is the only safeguard against tyranny. The once-chained people whose leaders at last lose their grip on information flow will soon burst with freedom and vitality, but the free nation gradually constricting its grip on public discourse has begun its rapid slide into despotism. Beware of he who would deny you access to information, for in his heart he dreams himself your master."--Sid Meier's  Alpha Centauri

/I don't think that game was supposed to be prophetic...
 
2014-05-15 12:01:54 PM  

Anayalator: bighairyguy: Oh, and you now have to pay internet postage for all your emails too.

[www.posthastedirect.com image 300x284]


So my crazy old uncle, who's been forwarding me that email since early 2009, was right all along. Figures.
 
2014-05-15 12:01:55 PM  
In other news, Total Fark subscriptions are going up to $5.08 per month.
 
2014-05-15 12:02:05 PM  

Professor Duck: So, how long until we're charged by the Mb for service?


What's wrong with that?  Pay for what you use.

What I don't want, and what this is about, is to have to pay more for a fark MB then for a reddit MB.  Or have the fark MB come in at dial-up speeds because Drew wouldn't roll over for the payola
 
2014-05-15 12:02:29 PM  
censorship plain and simple.
 
2014-05-15 12:02:30 PM  
FTA: Even one of the Democratic commissioners who voted yes on Thursday expressed some misgivings about how the proposal had been handled. "I would have done this differently. I would have taken the time to consider the future," ... "I believe the process that got us to rulemaking today was flawed," she said.   "I would have preferred a delay."

I know what would have provided a delay you daft moron?  Voting No!
 
2014-05-15 12:03:02 PM  

mod3072: So the Obama-appointed telecom industry shills voted to protect telecom profits at the expense of the consumer and free expression?? I blame Republicans. DAMN YOU, REPUBLICANS!!!


Are the republicans using their house majority to draft new legislation preventing companies from doing this? The regulatory powers of the regulatory bodies are determined by the laws enacted by the legislature. What are the republicans doing with their house majority to stop this?

Oh, having another Benghazi investigation? Awesome.
 
2014-05-15 12:03:23 PM  

kertus: ikanreed: Okay, we need a backup plan.

Digging up cables of companies that do this?  Boycotts?  Class action lawsuit for failure to deliver promised service?


A class action suit has to be the way to do this. If I contract for 30mb/sec. INTERNET access, then that is what they should deliver.Who am I kidding, we the plebes have lost control. Capital has won the battle.


Err, I have 75mb internet access.  I get 75mb to Steam, Amazon, most of the download sites, etc.  Sometimes I don't get that kind of speed.  Why?  Because the person/company hosting the data I want access to decided to go with the cheapest ISP, the cheapest datacenter, or the cheapest CDN that has shiat connectivity.  That's not my fault, it's not even my ISPs fault.  We need to make sure that everyone has the same access to content on the internet, but ensuring that the speed you purchase from your ISP is the same speed that's delivered by a third party service is asinine and has never been the practice as long as the internet as existed.  If I go through 20 hops to get to a destination IP, that means I have potentially 20 different network connections with 20 different parties that needs to ensure connectivity for me at maximum speed.  Not reasonable.  The only reasonable solution is an FCC driven framework for peering agreements and standards.  You can't guarantee speed, but you can at least guarantee equal treatment across the board.
 
2014-05-15 12:03:26 PM  
This country is a joke.
 
2014-05-15 12:03:30 PM  
Thank FSM that I have enough porn downloaded to last two lifetimes.
 
2014-05-15 12:03:53 PM  

gweilo8888: The person on whose doorstep you should be crapping is Reed Hastings, and if you sign up for his streaming service, you deserve precisely what you're getting -- shafted.


Right, I mean, everyone knows Netflix is the only streaming service available to consumers. There are no competitors and no innovation in that space.
 
2014-05-15 12:03:53 PM  

gweilo8888: ikanreed: Digging up cables of companies that do this?

Will just cause cable companies to raise costs, and you to spend even more on Internet access and web services than you already will.

Boycotts?

Don't work and never have.

Class action lawsuit for failure to deliver promised service?

Will buy the lawyers a nice Ferrari or three, while you'll get three dollars off your next month's bill if you agree that the cable company did no wrong and can repeat the behavior. (And you'll also have to rub your tummy and pat your head at the same time to get them to send the check, which you'll have to wait six months for. And its costs will be covered with a five-dollar-a-month-in-perpetuity hike in the cost of your cable bill.)

The only answer here is to vote out the morons who put these morons in office, and any morons who think even slightly like they do, and continue to do so for decades, and pray that the people you vote in are less dishonest.


Won't make a difference. Not with the money politics approved by SCOTUS system we've got not.

Vote out one moron, vote in another moron who got there because the same money put him in.
 
2014-05-15 12:03:57 PM  

TV's Vinnie: Is there any way for the Pro-NN companies to file a lawsuit together? The FCC may still ram it down our throats, but at least we can make them damn well have to prove without a doubt that our government is owned by the Plutocracy. It may even wake up some republican voters.



Wishful thinking.  The GOP will portray themselves as proponents of free enterprise while blaming this on Obama and the democrats (not that the democrats are innocent on this issue), and their retarded base will believe it.
 
2014-05-15 12:03:58 PM  
One mention of the future.
I guess nobody else thinks there will be one.
 
2014-05-15 12:04:44 PM  

clkeagle: Mikey1969: Wheeler's proposal is part of a larger "net neutrality" plan that forbids Internet service providers from outright blocking Web sites. And he promised a series of measures to ensure the new paid prioritization practices are done fairly and don't harm consumers. The agency said it had developed a "multifaceted dispute resolution process" on enforcement.
Who the fark is "Wheeler"? The word appears once on the page, right in the quote I posted above. Do they even require an 8th grade education to write for the Washington Post, or can my dog get a job there?


It was an editing mistake... but they probably assume someone interested in the current net neutrality discussion would know who the FCC chairman is.


My point still stands. With no actual editors, "editing mistakes" happen in almost everything we read. It's a farking joke. If Spell Check doesn't catch it, they don't care.
 
2014-05-15 12:04:44 PM  
Even one of the Democratic commissioners who voted yes on Thursday expressed some misgivings about how the proposal had been handled.

"I would have done this differently. I would have taken the time to consider the future," said Democratic Commissioner Jessica Rosenworcel, who said the proposal can't allow for clear fast lanes for the most privileged companies. She said she supported a proposal allowing the agency to consider questions on how it could prevent certain Web sites from being blocked, in addition to figuring out the overall oversight of broadband Internet providers.


Or you could have voted "no" you spineless twit.
 
2014-05-15 12:05:20 PM  

The Homer Tax: mod3072: So the Obama-appointed telecom industry shills voted to protect telecom profits at the expense of the consumer and free expression?? I blame Republicans. DAMN YOU, REPUBLICANS!!!

Are the republicans using their house majority to draft new legislation preventing companies from doing this? The regulatory powers of the regulatory bodies are determined by the laws enacted by the legislature. What are the republicans doing with their house majority to stop this?

Oh, having another Benghazi investigation? Awesome.


Why would they stop it?  This is what they want.  And the President's own appointee is doing that for them.  They're laughing their asses off.
 
2014-05-15 12:05:28 PM  

Farking Canuck: Keep voting in republicans. That's the way to protect the little guy.


No, Democrats won't return power usurped by their Republican colleagues because they all follow the money. This is why the TSA continues to exist beyond its useful life, along with all the other Bush 43 privacy invasions. The only relief would be for DOJ to dismantle AT&T, Comcast and Charter, and even that will be difficult because Eric Holder is an ineffectual boob, and any successor's appointment will depend on which Senators are paid off by whom.
 
2014-05-15 12:05:39 PM  

medius: LeroyBourne: *unloads my 2 terabyte external hard-drive*

keep talking dirty


Lol.  Everyone needs a name for their nether region hog.
 
2014-05-15 12:05:42 PM  
Coming soon:

geekometry.com

Or more realistically:

images.huffingtonpost.com
 
2014-05-15 12:05:57 PM  
Everybody has a price...
 
2014-05-15 12:06:29 PM  

Professor Duck: *sigh* I get too much use out of this quote lately:

"As the Americans learned so painfully in Earth's final century, free flow of information is the only safeguard against tyranny. The once-chained people whose leaders at last lose their grip on information flow will soon burst with freedom and vitality, but the free nation gradually constricting its grip on public discourse has begun its rapid slide into despotism. Beware of he who would deny you access to information, for in his heart he dreams himself your master."--Sid Meier's  Alpha Centauri

/I don't think that game was supposed to be prophetic...


You're not the only fan of that game here... and yes, I've seen it getting more and more eerily prophetic as time passes.
 
2014-05-15 12:06:39 PM  

Wadded Beef: Even one of the Democratic commissioners who voted yes on Thursday expressed some misgivings about how the proposal had been handled.

"I would have done this differently. I would have taken the time to consider the future," said Democratic Commissioner Jessica Rosenworcel, who said the proposal can't allow for clear fast lanes for the most privileged companies. She said she supported a proposal allowing the agency to consider questions on how it could prevent certain Web sites from being blocked, in addition to figuring out the overall oversight of broadband Internet providers.

Or you could have voted "no" you spineless twit.


img4.wikia.nocookie.net
 
2014-05-15 12:06:52 PM  

agnosticcomputing.com

"Go pull the plug. Its over."

 
2014-05-15 12:06:55 PM  

Hi! I can lick my own eyebrows: Thank FSM that I have enough porn downloaded to last two lifetimes.


You can have enough porn?
 
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2014-05-15 12:06:55 PM  
What the hell?  My TotalFark renewal just went to $100!!!
 
2014-05-15 12:06:58 PM  
Well, goodbye Fark, it was nice knowing you.
 
2014-05-15 12:07:04 PM  
Just wrote my Senator, again.
 
2014-05-15 12:07:05 PM  

Wadded Beef: Even one of the Democratic commissioners who voted yes on Thursday expressed some misgivings about how the proposal had been handled.

"I would have done this differently. I would have taken the time to consider the future," said Democratic Commissioner Jessica Rosenworcel, who said the proposal can't allow for clear fast lanes for the most privileged companies. She said she supported a proposal allowing the agency to consider questions on how it could prevent certain Web sites from being blocked, in addition to figuring out the overall oversight of broadband Internet providers.

Or you could have voted "no" you spineless twit.


I've said it before and I'll say it again.

Republicans:  All action, no thought.
Democrats:  All thought, no action.
 
2014-05-15 12:07:20 PM  

Headso: censorship plain and simple.


Not so plain nor simple.
Poetic, really, the pulblic will pay for censoring themselves.
 
2014-05-15 12:07:26 PM  
I love how ever this becomes a wharrgarbl REPUBLICANS DEMOCRATS BUSH OBAMA issue. It's not, Bush, Obama, Republicans, Democrats, they're all in the pockets of the same big business interests that want to make this happen. This is not a partisan issue.
 
2014-05-15 12:07:28 PM  

clkeagle: Coming soon:

[geekometry.com image 520x245]

Or more realistically:

[images.huffingtonpost.com image 501x588]


It's way more simple.

Take your current internet price, multiple it by 3, and that's what you're going to have to pay for what bare minimum shiat you get today. Enjoy!
 
2014-05-15 12:07:29 PM  

ikanreed: Okay, we need a backup plan.

Digging up cables of companies that do this?  Boycotts?  Class action lawsuit for failure to deliver promised service?


Right now?

These are proposed rules,  We have four months to gin up as much public outrage as possible before the Notice of Final rulemaking.   So Comment on these rules and why they suck, submitt those to the FCC and then get everyone you even barely know to do the same.

This was the opening bell, not the final round
 
2014-05-15 12:07:31 PM  

TV's Vinnie: The telecom companies argue that without being able to charge tech firms for higher-speed connections, they will be unable to invest in faster connections for consumers for rich people.

Anyone who thinks that we schlubs would ever get a glimpse of these higher bandwiths unless we would have to fork over an assload each month is smoking meth.


It's already this way as it is.

I had Comcast installed in my house (which I use for work). It was pretty unreliable for awhile. Every time I called up, the CSR tried to sell me "business" service for another $50 a month. So the $39.99 I'm paying guarantees me some semblance of internet, but if I want it to really work as it should (maybe), I have to pay $79.99. Got it.
 
2014-05-15 12:07:43 PM  

BarryTheMasterOfSandwich: This country is a joke.


I'm thoroughly disgusted with what it's become. It's time for a revolution. This country in no way resembles the nation of my youth.
 
2014-05-15 12:10:39 PM  

kling_klang_bed: Republicans Corporatists siding with the larger corporations and in turn duking the small businesses?

[i45.photobucket.com image 240x189]


This is really the truth of it.
 
2014-05-15 12:10:43 PM  
www.liveforfilms.com

SHUT IT DOWN! SHUT IT DOWN FOREVER!

 
2014-05-15 12:10:53 PM  
Oh yeah, I forgot to ask...does this mean Oblackguy is acting as Imperial Emperor in this case, or Spineless Lackey?

/it's so hard to keep up
 
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