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2014-05-15 11:50:35 AM

medius: I will not jerk off to dial up speeds again!

/my cold dead hands


*unloads my 2 terabyte external hard-drive*
Let's fill this bad boy up.
 
2014-05-15 11:50:43 AM
Fark needs to think of some revolutionary slogans for a free internet... Live Stream or Die? The Internet will not be televised? I'm really bad at this...
 
2014-05-15 11:50:47 AM
Did you really think any government agency would push for a more open or free internet? Every government in the world has spent the last 5 years trying to control and shape the information on the internet.

This is a logic progression.
 
2014-05-15 11:51:05 AM

ikanreed: Digging up cables of companies that do this?


Will just cause cable companies to raise costs, and you to spend even more on Internet access and web services than you already will.

Boycotts?

Don't work and never have.

Class action lawsuit for failure to deliver promised service?

Will buy the lawyers a nice Ferrari or three, while you'll get three dollars off your next month's bill if you agree that the cable company did no wrong and can repeat the behavior. (And you'll also have to rub your tummy and pat your head at the same time to get them to send the check, which you'll have to wait six months for. And its costs will be covered with a five-dollar-a-month-in-perpetuity hike in the cost of your cable bill.)

The only answer here is to vote out the morons who put these morons in office, and any morons who think even slightly like they do, and continue to do so for decades, and pray that the people you vote in are less dishonest.
 
2014-05-15 11:51:09 AM

ikanreed: Digging up cables of companies that do this?


It is about to the point where acts of violence are becoming the only thing our representatives and lawmakers pay attention to.

What do we call it to make sure it gets good headlines? Wiregate? Occupy Copper?

Wait... Got it.


Wireghazi.
 
2014-05-15 11:51:10 AM
i.imgur.com
 
2014-05-15 11:51:10 AM
Don't worry. Those faster broadband speeds will eventually "trickle down" to the sites that can't afford to pay. Everyone wins, see?
 
2014-05-15 11:51:30 AM

sdd2000: sprawl15: thanks obama

From the article: "The plan, approved in a three-to-two vote along party lines, ..." I will let you guess who appointed the three.


According to Wikipedia, all five of the current commissioners were appointed by Obama. Even the Republican ones.

Law states that only three of the commissioners may be of the same political party, so the commission is always split 3-2 in one direction or the other.

So, yes, thanks Obama.
 
2014-05-15 11:51:30 AM

sdd2000: sprawl15: thanks obama

From the article: "The plan, approved in a three-to-two vote along party lines, ..." I will let you guess who appointed the three.


There was a Democratic appointee that said "yes".

So i'm assuming that the pubs said "No" because they wanted to keep the status quo, which was the FCC not saying anything. The dems said "yes" because this forces providers to ahve a "minimum" level of "commercially reasonable" level of service.

The issue is that the it doesn't say "you can't make a fast lane" and it doesn't force the ISPs to be Title II compliant. In this whole debate there is what "net neutrality" actually means, and what the dems and pubs twist "net neutrality" to mean. They based on the twisted version, not on the actual version, otherwise the Dems would've said "fark no" and the pubs saying "hell yes!"
 
2014-05-15 11:51:33 AM

Mikey1969: Wheeler's proposal is part of a larger "net neutrality" plan that forbids Internet service providers from outright blocking Web sites. And he promised a series of measures to ensure the new paid prioritization practices are done fairly and don't harm consumers. The agency said it had developed a "multifaceted dispute resolution process" on enforcement.

Who the fark is "Wheeler"? The word appears once on the page, right in the quote I posted above. Do they even require an 8th grade education to write for the Washington Post, or can my dog get a job there?


Presumably Thomas Wheeler, chairman of the FCC and former telecommunications industry lobbyist.
 
2014-05-15 11:51:46 AM

dababler: Obama's Reptiloid Master: 1. It's not a final rule.

2. Ruelmaking authority is subservient to legislative power.

3. Congress can always act and supersede the FCC.

4. The solution is therefore that we stop electing Republicans to Congress, or at least any Republican (or Democrat, for that matter) who supports anything less than treating ISPs as common carriers.

Congress can't act. Boehner is letting stupid person Marsha Blackburn spout off how Net Neutrality is socialism and has for like 4 years.


Elections are in November. Vote accordingly.
 
2014-05-15 11:52:10 AM

Obama's Reptiloid Master: 1. It's not a final rule.

2. Ruelmaking authority is subservient to legislative power.

3. Congress can always act and supersede the FCC.

4. The solution is therefore that we stop electing Republicans to Congress, or at least any Republican (or Democrat, for that matter) who supports anything less than treating ISPs as common carriers.


The problem is (and I think there was an article I read about this yesterday with regards to the supreme court) that congress is full of old farts and technophobes that don't understand the issue and never will. The only thing 90% of congress knows about Net Neutrality is the paragraph on page 16 of the notes that their aid or policy adviser copied off Wikipedia.

This is an issue that was tailor made to be bought by big business since it's not really an emotional issue, most people don't understand it, and they don't care. Even once people start noticing their Netflix or Youtube or WWE Network or whatever slowing to a crawl, do you really think they're going to understand that it's a political issue and not a technological one?
 
2014-05-15 11:52:18 AM
Fark you right in the a$$ you plutocratic jack holes!
 
2014-05-15 11:52:56 AM
They also said they would kill Sully last because he such a funny guy.  They lied.
 
2014-05-15 11:53:08 AM

ikanreed: Class action lawsuit for failure to deliver promised service?


You're not allowed to sue them now.
Read your TOS.

You have to have your dispute mediated by a company employed by your ISP.
 
2014-05-15 11:53:23 AM
What is that?  Is that the FCC deciding to do the right thing?
img4.wikia.nocookie.net
 
2014-05-15 11:53:33 AM
I guess I better bite the pillow because they're going in dry...
 
2014-05-15 11:53:44 AM
I'm pretty sure I've already downloaded the Internet to my hard disk, so I'm good.

//Seriously, I really need to clean up my hard disk space some day.
 
2014-05-15 11:54:01 AM
...and the rich/poor margin widens even further.
 
2014-05-15 11:54:47 AM

Paris1127: Fark needs to think of some revolutionary slogans for a free internet... Live Stream or Die? The Internet will not be televised? I'm really bad at this...


F**k The FCC!
You can have my Netflicks when you pry them from my cold, dead hands!
Keep the Internet free!
 
2014-05-15 11:54:52 AM

RoxtarRyan: Wait... Got it.

Wireghazi.


Yes! This needs to happen.

This corporate takeover of the internet needs to called "Wireghazi".
 
2014-05-15 11:54:54 AM
Zuck!  Musk!  Get those damn UAVs airborne and start broadcasting a free internet.
 
2014-05-15 11:54:59 AM
Lovely. Between this, that shiatstain DMCA that Clinton signed and the NSA buttfarking every tech company in the country I guess America just isn't meant to have a thriving tech industry anymore.
 
2014-05-15 11:55:04 AM
I can't find the specific language, but the director of our municipal telecom said that they're prohibited by their charter from engaging in anti-neutrality practices. So the only thing we have to worry about is content provider-side extortion.
 
2014-05-15 11:55:05 AM
I hope they wait until I've finished downloading my car.
 
2014-05-15 11:55:27 AM
There's simply no other solution than overbuilding. Cities and regions are not allowed to have exclusive franchise agreements (since 1996). Take Google Fiber as a starting block, get Netflix, Amazon, Apple, and anyone else dependent on net progress on board with a 'neutrality-centered' charter.  It's going to be some absolutely ungodly CapEx to make it happen.  It's not going to (directly) be profitable any time in the next decade. Comcast, Verizon, and AT&T will flail like a dying fish. But, it's the only possible answer at this point.
 
2014-05-15 11:55:28 AM

Obama's Reptiloid Master: 1. It's not a final rule.

2. Ruelmaking authority is subservient to legislative power.

3. Congress can always act and supersede the FCC.

4. The solution is therefore that we stop electing Republicans to Congress, or at least any Republican (or Democrat, for that matter) who supports anything less than treating ISPs as common carriers.



When's the last time Congress stopped sucking corporate dick?

And if you've been living under a rock, Republicans will continue controlling the House, and according to Nate Silver, will take control of the Senate in November.
 
2014-05-15 11:55:42 AM
heroeswiki.com

LAME!
 
2014-05-15 11:55:44 AM
Wow, I remember the "olde days" when dial-up connections were charged by the minute.

Once I went to an "always on" cable-modem almost 15 years ago I never thought I might be going back to that. Hello overage charges.
 
2014-05-15 11:55:54 AM

gweilo8888: ikanreed: Digging up cables of companies that do this?

Will just cause cable companies to raise costs, and you to spend even more on Internet access and web services than you already will.


Plus, there is a good chance you as a tax payer paid for that cable.

Last I knew, there is a lot of unused fiber capacity in America because the government paid these companies to lay down a lot of it, and the companies never turned it on.

Rural broadbandification should be what we are doing right now to stimulate the economy.  We got 110W and 220W to peoples homes during the Great Depression, why aren't we getting 30Mbps to them now?
 
2014-05-15 11:55:59 AM

gweilo8888: ikanreed: Digging up cables of companies that do this?

Will just cause cable companies to raise costs, and you to spend even more on Internet access and web services than you already will.

Boycotts?

Don't work and never have.

Class action lawsuit for failure to deliver promised service?

Will buy the lawyers a nice Ferrari or three, while you'll get three dollars off your next month's bill if you agree that the cable company did no wrong and can repeat the behavior. (And you'll also have to rub your tummy and pat your head at the same time to get them to send the check, which you'll have to wait six months for. And its costs will be covered with a five-dollar-a-month-in-perpetuity hike in the cost of your cable bill.)

The only answer here is to vote out the morons who put these morons in office, and any morons who think even slightly like they do, and continue to do so for decades, and pray that the people you vote in are less dishonest.


In these trying times, we certainly need a much faster way of ejecting morons(sociopaths that sell their soul for chump change in order to funnel more middle class money to the 1%).
You have absolutely no way of determining honesty before election, so one must use the ejection seat that we do not currently have, but need.
And there is the issue of elections being just so much theatre in the first place.
Face it, You, Me, Him are just farked.
 
2014-05-15 11:56:03 AM

Obama's Reptiloid Master: 1. It's not a final rule.

2. Ruelmaking authority is subservient to legislative power.

3. Congress can always act and supersede the FCC.

4. The solution is therefore that we stop electing Republicans to Congress, or at least any Republican (or Democrat, for that matter) who supports anything less than treating ISPs as common carriers.


Congress has only allowed legislation that would hamstring enforcement of regulations for any agency.

What would lead you to believe this is any different? The chairman needs to go, he's representative of just about everything that's wrong. Further to that, the Senate would never appoint a proper chair. Republican filibusters would see to that.

This will only get worse.
 
2014-05-15 11:56:11 AM

GoldSpider: So when the GOP warns that FCC net neutrality laws will "derail the internet" and "stifle innovation", they were right?


No, because they are evil and therefore never said that.

/even if they said that, they never said that
//LA LA LA CAN'T HEAR YOU OVER HOW AWESOME OBAMA IS
 
2014-05-15 11:56:11 AM
I am going to write President Obama a real paper-and-ink letter encouraging him to replace his entire FCC executive staff. They do not do the bidding of the people, and therefore should be replaced.
 
2014-05-15 11:56:20 AM
goddamnitsomuch
 
2014-05-15 11:56:27 AM

UNC_Samurai: I can't find the specific language, but the director of our municipal telecom said that they're prohibited by their charter from engaging in anti-neutrality practices. So the only thing we have to worry about is content provider-side extortion.


Not necessarily. Depending on who your provider peers with, those peers, might still be able to extort providers which would still impact you.
 
2014-05-15 11:56:31 AM
Is there any way for the Pro-NN companies to file a lawsuit together? The FCC may still ram it down our throats, but at least we can make them damn well have to prove without a doubt that our government is owned by the Plutocracy. It may even wake up some republican voters.
 
2014-05-15 11:56:43 AM

kertus: ikanreed: Okay, we need a backup plan.

Digging up cables of companies that do this?  Boycotts?  Class action lawsuit for failure to deliver promised service?


A class action suit has to be the way to do this. If I contract for 30mb/sec. INTERNET access, then that is what they should deliver.Who am I kidding, we the plebes have lost control. Capital has won the battle.


You know you CAN contract for 30mb/sec gauranteed right?  It cost a fark load.  Maybe 10x+ more than your plan.  But its out there.
 
2014-05-15 11:56:48 AM
Granted I got on late, but I watched the chairman's comments live and I didn't get this at all.  Seemed like he went out of his way to suggest that the internet that the consumer pays for would always be open and unfettered.  Guess I'll have to read the NPRM (anyone have a link)?
 
2014-05-15 11:56:50 AM

Cybernetic: sdd2000: sprawl15: thanks obama

From the article: "The plan, approved in a three-to-two vote along party lines, ..." I will let you guess who appointed the three.

According to Wikipedia, all five of the current commissioners were appointed by Obama. Even the Republican ones.

Law states that only three of the commissioners may be of the same political party, so the commission is always split 3-2 in one direction or the other.

So, yes, thanks Obama.


Someone could always think a little differently, but I doubt they would get a seat on the panel.
 
2014-05-15 11:57:16 AM

snocone: In these trying times, we certainly need a much faster way of ejecting morons(sociopaths that sell their soul for chump change in order to funnel more middle class money to the 1%).


which is why i wholly support safety deregulation for monster truck rallies
 
2014-05-15 11:57:17 AM

qorkfiend: The industry insider that heads the FCC sides with the industry? No way!


Hey now, just because Tom Wheeler is a former cable company lobbyist deep in the pocket of his former employees it doesn't mean he can't make an objective and unbiased decision on Net Neutrality. I'm sure he considered all the relevant facts and listened closely to public opinion before doing exactly what Comcast told him to do.

It's depressing as all hell that a Net Neutrality protest gets all of a half a dozen people while tens of thousands will march drive their hoverounds through DC to protest  healthcare laws that largely benefit them.
 
2014-05-15 11:57:28 AM
GET F*CKED
 
2014-05-15 11:57:57 AM
Obama 2016.
 
2014-05-15 11:58:48 AM
All I can see with that headline is that stupid puppet gif. Appropriate, considering how many people in Congress and how many people are a part of these commission type groups are just puppets for the businesses.
 
2014-05-15 11:58:51 AM
Just tell Republicans that this is the result of people appointed by Obama. They'll stop it in no time.
 
2014-05-15 11:58:52 AM

DarkSoulNoHope: Do you really think the Republican led Congress is going to try to change the rules to keep ISPs from making more and more profit? Especially since most (if not all) of those Republican congressmen/women (Democrats too) are lobbied to support these profits through legislation.


I'm not too worried about it. I'm sure that with the truckloads of money Verizon will be making as a result of this, they will chop a few bucks off of my monthly bill.
 
2014-05-15 11:58:58 AM
Let them have their gold plated fibre cables!

We'll have carrier pigeons with USB drives!
 
2014-05-15 11:59:02 AM

Obama's Reptiloid Master: The bill can start in the Senate.
The HoR is farked, sure, but that's the fault of gerrymandering.


Either way, everyone in this thread should start typing something to their Democratic representative and/or senator right now. I'm working on one to Senator Harkin.


Mikey1969: Wheeler's proposal is part of a larger "net neutrality" plan that forbids Internet service providers from outright blocking Web sites. And he promised a series of measures to ensure the new paid prioritization practices are done fairly and don't harm consumers. The agency said it had developed a "multifaceted dispute resolution process" on enforcement.
Who the fark is "Wheeler"? The word appears once on the page, right in the quote I posted above. Do they even require an 8th grade education to write for the Washington Post, or can my dog get a job there?


It was an editing mistake... but they probably assume someone interested in the current net neutrality discussion would know who the FCC chairman is.


sprawl15: sdd2000: sprawl15: thanks obama
From the article: "The plan, approved in a three-to-two vote along party lines, ..." I will let you guess who appointed the three.
george soros?


DRINK!
 
2014-05-15 11:59:20 AM

acohn: Obama's Reptiloid Master: 1. It's not a final rule.

2. Ruelmaking authority is subservient to legislative power.

3. Congress can always act and supersede the FCC.

4. The solution is therefore that we stop electing Republicans to Congress, or at least any Republican (or Democrat, for that matter) who supports anything less than treating ISPs as common carriers.


When's the last time Congress stopped sucking corporate dick?

And if you've been living under a rock, Republicans will continue controlling the House, and according to Nate Silver, will take control of the Senate in November.


... SCORE
 
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