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2014-05-15 01:44:57 PM  
Do they recall them fondly?
 
2014-05-15 02:24:28 PM  
Amazing how all this news breaks just after the U.S. divests themselves of Government Motors.  Did they sell on insider knowledge?
 
2014-05-15 02:28:47 PM  

StrikitRich: Amazing how all this news breaks just after the U.S. divests themselves of Government Motors.  Did they sell on insider knowledge?



Please! They were merely exhibiting wise stewardship of public resources.
 
2014-05-15 02:38:39 PM  
 
2014-05-15 03:16:09 PM  

Snarfangel: Do they recall them fondly?


No one does.
 
2014-05-15 03:34:29 PM  
I had a 2005 Malibu. Worst car I have ever owned.
IIRC, the brakes were total crud
 
2014-05-15 03:53:20 PM  
I guess that Bail Out was a really good idea, wasnt it?
 
2014-05-15 05:56:50 PM  

StrikitRich: Amazing how all this news breaks just after the U.S. divests themselves of Government Motors.  Did they sell on insider knowledge?


Congress people are exempt from insider trading laws.  I'd assume the government is as well.
 
2014-05-15 08:00:56 PM  
Meh, never had a GM that didn't last well over 100k. Hell, my wife's Grand Prix has 190k.
 
2014-05-15 08:46:20 PM  
We got a recall letter about my (wife's) '11 Traverse in the mail earlier this week. Now my G6 is recalled too. Awesome

/it's 10 years old anyway
//180k miles
 
2014-05-15 08:49:10 PM  
Every GM vehicle I've ever owned decided ~130K was a good day to die. My Honda/Toyotas we a different story. Hell, my Celica had 281K on it. God I miss that car.
 
2014-05-15 08:56:32 PM  

jayphat: Every GM vehicle I've ever owned decided ~130K was a good day to die. My Honda/Toyotas we a different story. Hell, my Celica had 281K on it. God I miss that car.


My Celica burned to the ground around 150k.  No warning.  Just looked out the window and hey, I can finally get a new car.
 
2014-05-15 08:56:52 PM  

Snarfangel: Do they recall them fondly?


Damn you ...
 
2014-05-15 09:02:33 PM  
GM recalls 3 million more cars, 200,000 in Canada

I thought that would be like 3.27 million Canadian.
 
2014-05-15 09:03:25 PM  

Tourney3p0: jayphat: Every GM vehicle I've ever owned decided ~130K was a good day to die. My Honda/Toyotas we a different story. Hell, my Celica had 281K on it. God I miss that car.

My Celica burned to the ground around 150k.  No warning.  Just looked out the window and hey, I can finally get a new car.


What year? Mine was an '89. Transmission needed a little work. And one headlight had a faulty ground on the pop-up motor.
 
2014-05-15 09:13:13 PM  
Recall them from orbit.  It's the only way to be sure.
 
2014-05-15 09:16:29 PM  

jayphat: Tourney3p0: jayphat: Every GM vehicle I've ever owned decided ~130K was a good day to die. My Honda/Toyotas we a different story. Hell, my Celica had 281K on it. God I miss that car.

My Celica burned to the ground around 150k.  No warning.  Just looked out the window and hey, I can finally get a new car.

What year? Mine was an '89. Transmission needed a little work. And one headlight had a faulty ground on the pop-up motor.


I forget if it was an 88 or an 89.  Whichever one was the last year of that body style.  Mechanically it seemed alright, but the red paint on the top and the hood had faded to almost white.
 
2014-05-15 09:16:51 PM  
My last GM vehicle went 240,000 miles without a problem. Nothing but regular maintenance. Was still going strong when I traded it.
 
2014-05-15 09:32:53 PM  

Snarfangel: Do they recall them fondly?


If GM's going to fondle me, at least they could buy me a drink first.
 
2014-05-15 09:53:52 PM  
My Chevy Corsica was a '92 and had 148k miles before the head gasket and other ish went and it finally died.

I missed that POS...my bad credit has me paying too much for a '14 Outlander Sport, but I will work towards better credit with this.
 
2014-05-15 10:26:11 PM  
If you want to read about a GM recall in the twenties, look up the Copper-Cooled Chevrolet:


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chevrolet_Series_M_Copper-Cooled


They recalled all they could get and destroyed them. Only two survive.
 
2014-05-15 10:30:15 PM  
I owned a GM once. Once.
 
2014-05-16 12:09:06 AM  
Man, my Chevy is suxor.  The farking door hinges need to be replaced.  Again.  And I need to remove the front seats and lower the steering column and the whole farking dashboard just to replace the vacuum lines that control the HVAC system because they are so old that they are leaking vacuum.  How old are they, you might ask?  Well, it's only got 122,000 miles, and that sucker runs like a scalded beeootch (not sure what that means) up to about 96mpg when the farking computer kicks in.

/14 years
//nice rig, only had to do tires, battery, alternator, shocks, MAF sensor, 3-o2 sensors, transmission was covered under extended warranty which was fortunate as it cost about $3500 including labor.  The thing that I'm mad about is that this fine vehicle only gets 15mpg, and I'm really pissed about the door hinge design as well as the farking vacuum lines which were made out of material that doesn't last 25 years.
///I forgot about the farking back of the seat breaking.  So, we had to take the driver's seat out and remove the cover, replace the mechanism that controls the cable from the recline handle to the back of the seat.  When I bought the part sure enough there was a new design and they didn't cover it under warranty.  THE FARKING DRIVER'S SEAT BROKE  (I'm mad).  I've also had to replace the hood release cable twice.  What a POS.  Oh, I forgot again that I had to buy new speakers for the whole vehicle because I turned the volume up to the limit once.  No wonder they are recalling all these vehicles right now (not mine, too old and not safety issues), big GM was still putting out shiat vehicles in 2000 and they still are
judging by the recalls



TL:DR   my chevy sucks
 
2014-05-16 12:12:03 AM  
Corvair. Vega. X-cars. Cadillac Cimarron. Aztek. Hummer.


Need I say more?
 
2014-05-16 03:41:19 AM  
So, is my '77 Malibu Classic still okay?
 
2014-05-16 06:22:56 AM  

skrame: We got a recall letter about my (wife's) '11 Traverse in the mail earlier this week. Now my G6 is recalled too. Awesome

/it's 10 years old anyway
//180k miles


I have a G6 as well...this will be the 3rd recall notice on it

/Worst car I've ever owned
//Too cheap to get a different one
 
2014-05-16 07:33:33 AM  
It doesn't matter. In the "heartland" people still argue over dumb sh*t like Chevy vs. Ford, and buy up Silverados for dad, Equinoxes for mom, used Malibus for the kids, and Corvettes for uncle Mike.
 
2014-05-16 08:05:50 AM  

OregonVet: Meh, never had a GM that didn't last well over 100k. Hell, my wife's Grand Prix has 190k.


I had a Grand Am, it was just a lousy car. It was noisy, everything rattled like it was held together with scotch tape and it was just uncomfortable and unpleasant to drive. Drove a G6 rental. Awful. Drove those old man Impalas as loaners when the Grand Am was in the shop. Complete garbage. Drove an Aveo rental. Most miserable little piece of shiat I've ever seen on wheels.

I will say my wife's old Storm GSi was a surprisingly fun and spirited little thing, though, even though I'm not a big fan of small, FWD cars.

Can't really comment on the reliability. I've never been able to tolerate one long enough. Gave up trying back in the early 00s, never really thought to go back and look again.

/ at least Ford was making some good cars back then by swapping out the Mazda badges...
// haven't really found any one brand I really like all that much, though I've had mostly Fords with mixed success
/// gonna try Subaru next
 
2014-05-16 08:21:42 AM  

skozlaw: / at least Ford was making some good cars back then by swapping out the Mazda badges...
// haven't really found any one brand I really like all that much, though I've had mostly Fords with mixed success
/// gonna try Subaru next


B-b-b-but head gaskets!!!

/I have a '10 Outback with 80k+ miles, no head gasket problems yet.
//*knocks on wood* They say they fixed it finally.
 
2014-05-16 08:23:54 AM  

Angela Lansbury's Merkin: StrikitRich: Amazing how all this news breaks just after the U.S. divests themselves of Government Motors.  Did they sell on insider knowledge?

Congress people are exempt from insider trading laws.  I'd assume the government is as well.



They definitely were exempt.  Not sure of the current status, but the bill to make this illegal was signed in 2012.
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/02/03/us/politics/senate-approves-ban-on- i nsider-trading-by-congress.html?_r=0">http://www.nytimes.com/2012/02/ 03/us/politics/senate-approves-ban-on-i nsider-trading-by-congress.html?_r=0
 
2014-05-16 08:38:17 AM  
The last GM car I had was a 1997 GTP coupe, bought new in October 1996.  Nice, fun, big, and fast 'Merican coupe; went like stink, when it worked.  At 31,000 miles, the starter, alternator, fuel pump, and oil pump all went south simultaneously.  All replaced under warranty, and I traded the car in for a 1999 Maxima with a manual, in September of 1998.  The 99 Max proceeded to fry the same wiring harness, repeatedly, until, at 27,000 miles, I sued them under NY's lemon law.

A Nissan service rep told me, "They're all made for shiat".

I bought my first-ever Ford, a 2000 Mustang GT, with the Ride and Handling pack, added Ford Racing subframe connectors, and flashed the chip.  That car went for over 12 years, 147,000 miles, before I sold it to some kid.  It didn't burn any oil and got 24MPG on the highway, as long as I babied the loud-pedal.  Best ownership experience I've had to-date.  Things broke, of course, but at reasonable times, e.g. starter went at 120,000, alternator went at 125,000, fuel pump went at 135,000, etc...

Bought my first Scooby in 2012, and am hoping for an excellent ownership experience with this car.

Sadly, I grew up on a steady diet of GM heavy-metal, like my first car, which was a 74 442.  I've had a Firebird, a Monte, and a Starfire.  Loved them all.  But, there's nothing I find appealing, today, in the entire GM stable, with the exception of the C7, and that's a bit of a stretch, at that.
 
2014-05-16 08:44:37 AM  

skozlaw: OregonVet: Meh, never had a GM that didn't last well over 100k. Hell, my wife's Grand Prix has 190k.

I had a Grand Am, it was just a lousy car. It was noisy, everything rattled like it was held together with scotch tape and it was just uncomfortable and unpleasant to drive. Drove a G6 rental. Awful. Drove those old man Impalas as loaners when the Grand Am was in the shop. Complete garbage. Drove an Aveo rental. Most miserable little piece of shiat I've ever seen on wheels.

I will say my wife's old Storm GSi was a surprisingly fun and spirited little thing, though, even though I'm not a big fan of small, FWD cars.

Can't really comment on the reliability. I've never been able to tolerate one long enough. Gave up trying back in the early 00s, never really thought to go back and look again.

/ at least Ford was making some good cars back then by swapping out the Mazda badges...
// haven't really found any one brand I really like all that much, though I've had mostly Fords with mixed success
/// gonna try Subaru next


I loved the Storm GSi!  Brilliant little screamer!  It was a rebadged Isuzu Impluse, IIRC, but I liked the face better than the Isuzu;  the eyes seemed "squintier" to me.
 
2014-05-16 03:26:31 PM  
Our family has had, in the past, a 1954 Chevy, a 1957 Chevy, a 1965 Oldsmobile, a 1969
Oldsmobile, a 1973 Chevy, a 1977 Chevy, a 1980 Chevy, and a 1990 Cavalier (not all at the
same time, of course)....I suppose pretty soon GM will recall all of these.  (Have they yet
repeated Ford's feat of having more recalls than manufactured vehicles in any one year?
If not, it's getting pretty close.)
 
2014-05-16 04:35:18 PM  

rk1i: Angela Lansbury's Merkin: StrikitRich: Amazing how all this news breaks just after the U.S. divests themselves of Government Motors.  Did they sell on insider knowledge?

Congress people are exempt from insider trading laws.  I'd assume the government is as well.


They definitely were exempt.  Not sure of the current status, but the bill to make this illegal was signed in 2012.
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/02/03/us/politics/senate-approves-ban-on- i nsider-trading-by-congress.html?_r=0">http://www.nytimes.com/2012/02/ 03/us/politics/senate-approves-ban-on-i nsider-trading-by-congress.html?_r=0


It's legal again. They repealed most of that law six months later, when it was no longer in the news cycle.
 
2014-05-16 05:15:44 PM  

Sim Tree: rk1i: Angela Lansbury's Merkin: StrikitRich: Amazing how all this news breaks just after the U.S. divests themselves of Government Motors.  Did they sell on insider knowledge?

Congress people are exempt from insider trading laws.  I'd assume the government is as well.


They definitely were exempt.  Not sure of the current status, but the bill to make this illegal was signed in 2012.
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/02/03/us/politics/senate-approves-ban-on- i nsider-trading-by-congress.html?_r=0">http://www.nytimes.com/2012/02/ 03/us/politics/senate-approves-ban-on-i nsider-trading-by-congress.html?_r=0

It's legal again. They repealed most of that law six months later, when it was no longer in the news cycle.


Ugh. That stinks. Thanks for the update.
 
2014-05-16 08:21:46 PM  

davidhyde: If you want to read about a GM recall in the twenties, look up the Copper-Cooled Chevrolet:


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chevrolet_Series_M_Copper-Cooled


They recalled all they could get and destroyed them. Only two survive.


Kettering had a college named after him in the Flint area.
 
2014-05-16 10:34:51 PM  
So wait...they're basically recalling cars because the brake lights can fail? Well shiat...every German manufacturer better be recalling every car they've ever made tommorrow.
 
2014-05-16 10:37:34 PM  

cman: I guess that Bail Out was a really good idea, wasnt it?


I think you missed the point of the recall.
 
2014-05-16 10:38:11 PM  

SacriliciousBeerSwiller: cman: I guess that Bail Out was a really good idea, wasnt it?

I think you missed the point of the recall.


Er...bail out. Drunk.
 
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