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(Cincinnati Enquirer)   Turns out that Hillbilly Heroin is not Oxycontin. Hillbilly Heroin is Heroin   (cincinnati.com) divider line 78
    More: Ironic, Mitch McConnell, Florence, Kentucky, OxyContin, Northern Kentucky, Mayor of San Francisco, Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell, heroin, Dianne Feinstein  
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2014-05-15 11:47:02 AM  
Looking through recent Kentucky OD stats what strikes me as the most shocking is that in 2012 over 41 percent of autopsied ODs identified Alprazolom (Xanax).
 
2014-05-15 11:53:25 AM  
The government's own reports about the crackdown on the abuse of prescription opiates like OxyContin predicted that one of the likely consequences would be an increase in heroin abuse. People who want to get high are going to find a way.
 
2014-05-15 12:33:23 PM  
Well it is now that they fixed Oxy so you can't shoot it up.
 
2014-05-15 01:37:56 PM  

Rev. Skarekroe: Well it is now that they fixed Oxy so you can't shoot it up.


You're kidding right? They certainly tried but it doesn't stop them. Addicts here have figured out how.
 
2014-05-15 01:39:19 PM  
Mitch needs to talk it up more. What happened to stoners microwaving babies?

Come om people. LEO thugs need their assault weapons and military vehicles! And the local precinct break room could use another Foosball table ... or two.
 
2014-05-15 01:40:44 PM  

Sybarite: The government's own reports about the crackdown on the abuse of prescription opiates like OxyContin predicted that one of the likely consequences would be an increase in heroin abuse. People who want to get high are going to find a way.


Was going to say this. Someone who is in the throes of an opiate addiction is kinda like a drop of water, they're going to take the past of least resistance to the bottom.
 
2014-05-15 01:44:30 PM  
Druggies gonna drug
 
2014-05-15 01:44:34 PM  
doesn't hurt that we liberated afghanistan from a government that was stopping them from producing tons and tons of heroin. You can get heroin cheaper than a 6 pack of bottled beer in most places
 
2014-05-15 01:46:17 PM  

brap: Looking through recent Kentucky OD stats what strikes me as the most shocking is that in 2012 over 41 percent of autopsied ODs identified Alprazolom (Xanax).


Not really that surprising.  It's inexpensive, readily prescribed by doctors for pretty common indications, and it's REALLY dangerous when combined with even small amounts of alcohol.
 
2014-05-15 01:48:16 PM  
Well what did they expect when they made the Drs stop prescribing pain medication cracked down on pharmacies that dared fill the prescriptions and made cheap generics go away and sold out to the pharm and drug lobby. heroin is cheap, easy to get and much less of a hassle.

Liberating Afghanistan just let the heroin crops come back in force since the Taliban isn't able to control it.

Way to go war on drugs.
 
2014-05-15 01:50:08 PM  
Heroin is cheaper. Thanks war on terror.
 
2014-05-15 01:50:22 PM  
This is all Florida's fault.
 
2014-05-15 01:51:08 PM  
"Beating heroin is child's play compared to beating your childhood."  Rand Speedball
 
2014-05-15 01:52:23 PM  

brap: Looking through recent Kentucky OD stats what strikes me as the most shocking is that in 2012 over 41 percent of autopsied ODs identified Alprazolom (Xanax).



You can't OD on Xanax alone. It's not possible. Only if its mixed with other drugs or alcohol. Xanax is incredibly safe.
 
2014-05-15 01:54:22 PM  
Well, Mitch can't speak out against Big Pharma, can he? Asshat.
 
2014-05-15 01:54:55 PM  
IF these junkies are OD'ing, isn't this a problem that will fix itself eventually?
 
2014-05-15 01:56:03 PM  

aseras: brap: Looking through recent Kentucky OD stats what strikes me as the most shocking is that in 2012 over 41 percent of autopsied ODs identified Alprazolom (Xanax).


You can't OD on Xanax alone. It's not possible. Only if its mixed with other drugs or alcohol. Xanax is incredibly safe.


The LD50 is 195mg/kg. That's not impossible, merely unlikely.
 
2014-05-15 01:57:06 PM  

LarryDan43: Heroin is cheaper. Thanks war on terror.


Our occupation of Afghanistan for the last 9 years sure has paid off.
 
2014-05-15 01:57:19 PM  

jaybeezey: IF these junkies are OD'ing, isn't this a problem that will fix itself eventually?


It takes a long time.  Take Baltimore for example.  It has as many (or more now) OD deaths than murders, yet no sign of stopping in the near term.
 
2014-05-15 01:59:50 PM  

untaken_name: aseras: brap: Looking through recent Kentucky OD stats what strikes me as the most shocking is that in 2012 over 41 percent of autopsied ODs identified Alprazolom (Xanax).


You can't OD on Xanax alone. It's not possible. Only if its mixed with other drugs or alcohol. Xanax is incredibly safe.

The LD50 is 195mg/kg. That's not impossible, merely unlikely.


Maybe it's more an indication that there is a large amount of anxiety disorders in these region due to economic factors or whatever. Doctors give people Xanax, but they go ahead and self-medicate with alcohol or illegal drugs on top of it, creating a dangerous cocktail that eventually leaves them dead.
 
2014-05-15 02:01:28 PM  

jaybeezey: IF these junkies are OD'ing, isn't this a problem that will fix itself eventually?


Heroin seems like an effective shock to the Kentucky gene pool, but even after back washing, the junk grows back.
 
2014-05-15 02:02:02 PM  

brap: Looking through recent Kentucky OD stats what strikes me as the most shocking is that in 2012 over 41 percent of autopsied ODs identified Alprazolom (Xanax).


it's not surprising that most overdoses are depressed people overdosing on their depressed people medicine.
 
2014-05-15 02:05:40 PM  
It's never a problem till it's in your turtle neck of the woods. Back in the days dealers on the west side of Chicago use to make 24k a night from this shiat. Whites from far and wide use to come and buy $1000 packs like candy. Somehow the cops here slowed it down(spread it out), but gain a massive murder rate at the same time.
 
2014-05-15 02:06:11 PM  

syberpud: jaybeezey: IF these junkies are OD'ing, isn't this a problem that will fix itself eventually?

It takes a long time.  Take Baltimore for example.  It has as many (or more now) OD deaths than murders, yet no sign of stopping in the near term.


maybe it is time to flood the market with dirty doses.
 
2014-05-15 02:07:58 PM  
Heroin's been a problem in Campbell county since I was a kid living in that area. Probably not as bad as it is now, but it was definitely there. Newport is especially bad in that regard.
 
2014-05-15 02:08:41 PM  

monoski: Our occupation of Afghanistan for the last 9 years sure has paid off.


If we didn't spend billions in Afghanistan securing the production of heroin, how would we spend billions on the drug war fighting heroin at home. Those contractors have to make their payments on their Audis somehow.
 
2014-05-15 02:08:41 PM  

Sybarite: The government's own reports about the crackdown on the abuse of prescription opiates like OxyContin predicted that one of the likely consequences would be an increase in heroin abuse. People who want to get high are going to find a way.


THIS!

I worked with a guy who got into the pills and then ended up on heroin because he couldnt find the pills. They just identified his remains last month after he had been missing for almost 2 years.
 
2014-05-15 02:12:25 PM  
Oxy is more Beverly Hillbilly Heroin.
 
2014-05-15 02:14:15 PM  
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Wait, it's really heroin?
 
2014-05-15 02:16:42 PM  

untaken_name: aseras: brap: Looking through recent Kentucky OD stats what strikes me as the most shocking is that in 2012 over 41 percent of autopsied ODs identified Alprazolom (Xanax).


You can't OD on Xanax alone. It's not possible. Only if its mixed with other drugs or alcohol. Xanax is incredibly safe.

The LD50 is 195mg/kg. That's not impossible, merely unlikely.


270lb = 122.5kg (I sound fat)

122.5 * 195 = 23,887.5 mg = 23.8875 g

1 Xanax pill = 1mg (IIRC)

Granted, there's a lot of filler in that 1mg pill, but I doubt you could get anyone to swallow 23,000 pills in an hour (or even in a day), and to make a dose that size without access to the production facilities requires a Masters' (at least) in Chemistry.

"Unlikely" in the same sense as getting a half-hour beejer from Halle Berry is.
 
2014-05-15 02:16:56 PM  

darwinpolice: Not really that surprising.  It's inexpensive, readily prescribed by doctors for pretty common indications, and it's REALLY dangerous when combined with even small amounts of alcohol.


I understand that, I'm just surprised with the numbers, when compared to fatality say something like Valium, which was at one time the most prescribed medicine in the U.S.
 
2014-05-15 02:17:18 PM  

cgraves67: untaken_name: aseras: brap: Looking through recent Kentucky OD stats what strikes me as the most shocking is that in 2012 over 41 percent of autopsied ODs identified Alprazolom (Xanax).


You can't OD on Xanax alone. It's not possible. Only if its mixed with other drugs or alcohol. Xanax is incredibly safe.

The LD50 is 195mg/kg. That's not impossible, merely unlikely.

Maybe it's more an indication that there is a large amount of anxiety disorders in these region due to economic factors or whatever. Doctors give people Xanax, but they go ahead and self-medicate with alcohol or illegal drugs on top of it, creating a dangerous cocktail that eventually leaves them dead.


I believe you're correct, but that still doesn't make it impossible to OD on Xanax alone, just unlikely.
 
2014-05-15 02:18:19 PM  
IIRC, heroin is cheaper and more readily available than Oxy.

Thanks God I never needed nor used either.
 
2014-05-15 02:18:22 PM  
Fark 'em.
They bought their drugs.
They knew they wer putting poison in their bodies.
 
2014-05-15 02:18:25 PM  

Dr Dreidel: untaken_name: aseras: brap: Looking through recent Kentucky OD stats what strikes me as the most shocking is that in 2012 over 41 percent of autopsied ODs identified Alprazolom (Xanax).


You can't OD on Xanax alone. It's not possible. Only if its mixed with other drugs or alcohol. Xanax is incredibly safe.

The LD50 is 195mg/kg. That's not impossible, merely unlikely.

270lb = 122.5kg (I sound fat)

122.5 * 195 = 23,887.5 mg = 23.8875 g

1 Xanax pill = 1mg (IIRC)

Granted, there's a lot of filler in that 1mg pill, but I doubt you could get anyone to swallow 23,000 pills in an hour (or even in a day), and to make a dose that size without access to the production facilities requires a Masters' (at least) in Chemistry.

"Unlikely" in the same sense as getting a half-hour beejer from Halle Berry is.


You could create a pill with no filler. That would reduce the number necessary for OD considerably. Again, we're not dealing with issues of whether it is likely to happen. The word "impossible" has a specific meaning, and it was improperly applied in this case. That's all.
 
2014-05-15 02:18:44 PM  
I remember when heroin was a last-stop gutter trash drug. These days, college kids are dying from it.
 
2014-05-15 02:19:50 PM  

Sybarite: The government's own reports about the crackdown on the abuse of prescription opiates like OxyContin predicted that one of the likely consequences would be an increase in heroin abuse. People who want to get high are going to find a way.


Not only that, but since the prices have dropped on marijuana due to legalization, the Mexican drug cartels are switching to heroin.
 
2014-05-15 02:26:59 PM  

untaken_name: aseras: brap: Looking through recent Kentucky OD stats what strikes me as the most shocking is that in 2012 over 41 percent of autopsied ODs identified Alprazolom (Xanax).


You can't OD on Xanax alone. It's not possible. Only if its mixed with other drugs or alcohol. Xanax is incredibly safe.

The LD50 is 195mg/kg. That's not impossible, merely unlikely.


So I could take my month's supply of alprazolam (30x.25mg) in one sitting and I'd just be really mellow and sleep for 14 hours? Then, of course, I'd have a panic attack realizing what a stupid thing I'd done.

The above scenario is speculation of course, but I can see how that leads some to "drug seek."
 
2014-05-15 02:31:45 PM  

tlchwi02: doesn't hurt that we liberated afghanistan from a government that was stopping them from producing tons and tons of heroin. You can get heroin cheaper than a 6 pack of bottled beer in most places


A dime bag of heroin MIGHT get a non-addict high.
 
2014-05-15 02:32:04 PM  
From my own experience (non-recreational) Xanax + booze =/ death

/ GAD sucks
 
2014-05-15 02:35:02 PM  
Hillbilly Heroin is Hillbillies!

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2014-05-15 02:38:40 PM  

MFAWG: tlchwi02: doesn't hurt that we liberated afghanistan from a government that was stopping them from producing tons and tons of heroin. You can get heroin cheaper than a 6 pack of bottled beer in most places

A dime bag of heroin MIGHT get a non-addict high.


still, you can get a bag of heroin in NYC right now for 4 dollars.

4 dollars!
 
2014-05-15 02:39:02 PM  

tlchwi02: doesn't hurt that we liberated afghanistan from a government that was stopping them from producing tons and tons of heroin. You can get heroin cheaper than a 6 pack of bottled beer in most places


yep.  oxy user often move onto heroin. as heroin is cheaper.  hell, some places they have $5 bags.  and the high is stronger. there is the issue of needles, the aids, and hep c, but other than that...good times?
 
2014-05-15 02:40:15 PM  
In Cincinnati, it's chiefly viewed as a Northern Kentucky (Covington, Newport) problem, but fark... I've seen a laid-out ODed dead guy on the sidewalk.
/do not want
 
2014-05-15 02:40:18 PM  

tlchwi02: MFAWG: tlchwi02: doesn't hurt that we liberated afghanistan from a government that was stopping them from producing tons and tons of heroin. You can get heroin cheaper than a 6 pack of bottled beer in most places

A dime bag of heroin MIGHT get a non-addict high.

still, you can get a bag of heroin in NYC right now for 4 dollars.

4 dollars!


yeah, but folks have 50 bag a day habits. that's still $200.
 
2014-05-15 02:41:24 PM  

namegoeshere: I remember when heroin was a last-stop gutter trash drug. These days, college kids are dying from it.


"These days"? I remember a Newsweek story from 15-20 years ago talking about heroin use rising among young professionals. Specifically, a tale of the interviewee cooking junk on a bent spoon and inhaling through a gutted Bic pen in full view of the interviewer (it's how I learned the drug can be "smoked" - thanks, liberal media!).

// I seem to remember it was 1994, just after Kurt Cobain's death, but it might have been closer to 2000ish
// never done heroin
 
2014-05-15 02:45:18 PM  

aseras: brap: Looking through recent Kentucky OD stats what strikes me as the most shocking is that in 2012 over 41 percent of autopsied ODs identified Alprazolom (Xanax).


You can't OD on Xanax alone. It's not possible. Only if its mixed with other drugs or alcohol. Xanax is incredibly safe.


What we have here is a classic case of Correlation =/= causation.

People who are likely to OD are also very likely to be depressed, people who are depressed are very likely to have social anxiety, people who have social anxiety are very likely to be prescribed Xanax... Xanax didn't kill them, they are just more likely to be actively using Xanax when they die.
 
2014-05-15 02:46:07 PM  
Get a Brain Oxymorons.
 
2014-05-15 02:50:05 PM  
If Mitch McConnell was my senator I'd be shooting junk too
 
2014-05-15 02:57:59 PM  

drjekel_mrhyde: It's never a problem till it's in your turtle neck of the woods. Back in the days dealers on the west side of Chicago use to make 24k a night from this shiat. Whites from far and wide use to come and buy $1000 packs like candy. Somehow the cops here slowed it down(spread it out), but gain a massive murder rate at the same time.


"turtle neck of the woods"  wat_?
 
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