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(American Thinker)   The perceptions are that the Democrats are the party of the poor, the Republican the party of the rich. The truth is just the opposite   (americanthinker.com) divider line 258
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2014-05-15 08:44:48 AM  
Everything is opposite!  I'm surprised Jonah Goldberg or Dinesh D'Souza didn't write this.

Now tell me how the GOP is the party of blacks, women, and gays.
 
2014-05-15 08:45:13 AM  
Would a *poor* man have this magnificent a collection of Dale Earnhardt commemorative plates?
 
2014-05-15 08:46:19 AM  
While it might be true that democrats generally make more money that their republican cohorts, what does it say about a party that's actually willing to help out their nemesis as opposed to ignoring their base?
 
2014-05-15 08:49:09 AM  

stpauler: While it might be true that democrats generally make more money that their republican cohorts, what does it say about a party that's actually willing to help out their nemesis as opposed to ignoring their base?


It is more accurate to label the Republican party as the party of wealth disparity and label the Liberal party as party who wants to grow the middle-class.
 
2014-05-15 08:51:14 AM  
No party is for the poor. So vote GOP.
 
2014-05-15 08:55:21 AM  
It's American Potato, so I doubt it (and it's too early for me to start drinking), but do they explain how the Republican Party is for the poor?  That's like saying they're the party for women. And gay people. There's no logical explanation.
 
2014-05-15 08:57:07 AM  
Such take the form of talking points that political liberals have rehearsed so many times and are so ingrained into thought processes that they've transcended mere belief and are now ideological absolutes. (Meaning, many have convinced themselves these things are true even in the complete absence of facts, reason, evidence, logic or statistics to back them up.)

Kind of like the GOP's insistence that trickle down economics works, despite a complete absence of facts, reason, evidence, logic or statistics to back it up?  Kind of like how the GOP has convinced the poor people that continue to vote GOP that what's good for The Job Creators is good for them?
 
2014-05-15 09:00:02 AM  
but...but.... Americans for Prosperity!  It's their name.  It must mean that the group is dedicated to assist in making Americans more prosperous.
 
2014-05-15 09:00:25 AM  

mrshowrules: stpauler: While it might be true that democrats generally make more money that their republican cohorts, what does it say about a party that's actually willing to help out their nemesis as opposed to ignoring their base?

It is more accurate to label the Republican party as the party of wealth disparity and label the Liberal party as party who wants to grow the middle-class.



We have a liberal party? When did that happen?
 
2014-05-15 09:01:24 AM  
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2014-05-15 09:03:44 AM  

Three Crooked Squirrels: Kind of like the GOP's insistence that trickle down economics works, despite a complete absence of facts, reason, evidence, logic or statistics to back it up? Kind of like how the GOP has convinced the poor people that continue to vote GOP that what's good for The Job Creators is good for them?


YEARS ago, something like 6 or 7, a recruiter who used to find me regular freelance work, but it was drying up said to me, "trust me.the demand for the work is still there, the owners just figured out that they'd make more money if they worked people to the bone and stopped hiring.  It's about to get very ugly out there."

She couldn't have been more accurate, eh? But praise be to the mythical Job Creators.

How do people not see this when companies are making record profits, not hiring, and their CEOs are taking hefty bonuses and raises off our backs?
 
2014-05-15 09:06:09 AM  
Rmoney.
 
2014-05-15 09:07:09 AM  

serpent_sky: It's American Potato, so I doubt it (and it's too early for me to start drinking), but do they explain how the Republican Party is for the poor?  That's like saying they're the party for women. And gay people. There's no logical explanation.


Of course not.  He has 3 basic points:

1) There are only a few hundred billionaires in the country, so the GOP can't be the party of the rich because billionaires would be a small percentage of GOPers (not sure how this makes any difference, as it would also be a small percentage of Dems).

2) There are a bunch of wealthy congressional districts in NY, California, CT and VA that consistently vote for Democrats and a bunch of poor districts spread out over Alabama, Mississippi, Oklahoma, etc. that voted for McCain and Romney (so liberal districts run sound economies and GOP districts are hellholes, I guess).

3) There are more millionaires and more people on food stamps now that Fartbama is president.

It's extremely insightful if you give it a click.  I learned a lot from the article.  Mostly, I learned that if those poor people that keep voting GOP ever want to raise themselves out of poverty, they should probably start voting Democrat.  And conversely, if those wealthy people want to stay wealthy, they should avoid electing Republicans.
 
2014-05-15 09:07:39 AM  
Then perhaps you'd like to explain this recent RNC meeting.

24.media.tumblr.com
 
2014-05-15 09:08:03 AM  
So is American Thinker admitting that the right wing claims that the Democrats are waging a war on the rich is a made up lie?
 
2014-05-15 09:08:18 AM  

Diogenes: Everything is opposite!  I'm surprised Jonah Goldberg or Dinesh D'Souza didn't write this.


politics, an m night shyamalan joint
 
2014-05-15 09:09:32 AM  
Yes, in the same way as it's the gays who are the real bigots.
 
2014-05-15 09:09:33 AM  

serpent_sky: but do they explain how the Republican Party is for the poor?


DNRTFA, but, let me guess: They want to help the poors by taking away their socialist lobster and scratch-off-lottery-ticket subsidies to make them more independent and less reliant on handouts and kenyans. Benghazi.
 
2014-05-15 09:10:34 AM  

SilentStrider: mrshowrules: stpauler: While it might be true that democrats generally make more money that their republican cohorts, what does it say about a party that's actually willing to help out their nemesis as opposed to ignoring their base?

It is more accurate to label the Republican party as the party of wealth disparity and label the Liberal party as party who wants to grow the middle-class.


We have a liberal party? When did that happen?


We do, but no one actually seems to vote for them. We have a radical Right party and a Center-Right party, but that doesn't really bother folks too much. Except for the radicals, who are upset that more folks aren't quite as radicalized as they are...
 
2014-05-15 09:10:39 AM  
also it is the democrats who are the REAL racists and homophobes

at least that's what my wife morgan fairchild thinks
 
2014-05-15 09:10:44 AM  

serpent_sky: It's American Potato, so I doubt it (and it's too early for me to start drinking), but do they explain how the Republican Party is for the poor?  That's like saying they're the party for women. And gay people. There's no logical explanation.


Same here, I want to know, but I don't want to click.
 
2014-05-15 09:10:56 AM  
Dems are the real racists.
 
2014-05-15 09:11:14 AM  
www.arepotatoeshealthy.com
 
2014-05-15 09:11:32 AM  

Satanic_Hamster: So is American Thinker admitting that the right wing claims that the Democrats are waging a war on the rich is a made up lie?


For the purposes of that article (or paragraph, or sentence, or sentence fragment), the Democrats are the party of the rich. They obviously reserve the right to say exactly the opposite when it serves to support another argument of why Democrats are all poopyheads.
 
2014-05-15 09:12:12 AM  
But who are the real racists?
 
2014-05-15 09:13:00 AM  
From yesterday's thread:

http://www.fark.com/comments/8260201/

Eric Miller, 28, with bad teeth and an accent as thick as his tattooed arms, says he does not care about politics. He voted once, but can't remember for whom. But one thing is clear: He does not like Obama.
"I guess Democrats just worry about money in their pocket, what they and their friends are doing. They're not worried about us small people," Miller said.
"The Republicans, they are the ones that know ... raised up like we have, you know. Know what it's like, what we need, what shouldn't been taken away," Miller added.
"If there weren't government programs, it would be a ghost town," Miller said. He gets $380 on the sixth of every month, and with that he has to support himself and his girlfriend.


Eric Miller, a Real American™ from Kentucky, knows that the Republicans are the real friends of the common man, who would never take away what they need.
 
2014-05-15 09:13:34 AM  
"There isn't a shred of objective data (on any of the conservative sites I do my research on)  to support any of these fallacies..."
 
2014-05-15 09:13:39 AM  

xria: Satanic_Hamster: So is American Thinker admitting that the right wing claims that the Democrats are waging a war on the rich is a made up lie?

For the purposes of that article (or paragraph, or sentence, or sentence fragment), the Democrats are the party of the rich. They obviously reserve the right to say exactly the opposite when it serves to support another argument of why Democrats are all poopyheads.


with enough contortion, they aren't at odds

the gop are poor people supporting a few rich people out of merit

the dims are a few rich people catering to the basest of welfare queen instincts, buying votes with government handouts at the expense of the humble gop
 
2014-05-15 09:14:14 AM  
Also, why won't stupid brainwashed minorities that are lazy and like handouts respond positively to conservative overtures to encourage them by taking away their food?
 
2014-05-15 09:15:46 AM  

CPennypacker: [www.arepotatoeshealthy.com image 286x291]


I hate calling republicans potatoes.  Potatoes are very healthy and a huge reason western civilization really took off after bringing it back from the Andes.

Just call them assholes.

I can count to asshole!
 
2014-05-15 09:16:38 AM  
i saw senator portman on morning joe the other day. he and paul ryan are the faces of the GOP's laughable new push to claim that they care for the poors. basically, he just kept saying "a rising tide lifts all boats" and then yammered on about drug abuse.

the fact that over the past ten years the tide has risen to astronomical heights not seen since the gilded age, while the rest of us have been shackled to the sea floor to drown has apparently escaped him.
 
2014-05-15 09:17:17 AM  
That was as well written as it was reasoned.
 
2014-05-15 09:17:56 AM  

Three Crooked Squirrels: 2) There are a bunch of wealthy congressional districts in NY, California, CT and VA that consistently vote for Democrats and a bunch of poor districts spread out over Alabama, Mississippi, Oklahoma, etc. that voted for McCain and Romney (so liberal districts run sound economies and GOP districts are hellholes, I guess).


The actual voting data shows that it's the poor people in those rich districts that make those districts Democratic, and it's rich people in poor districts that make those districts Republican.  The other two combinations vote at about 50/50.
 
2014-05-15 09:19:23 AM  
the party of santa clause vs. the party of krampus
 
2014-05-15 09:20:25 AM  

serpent_sky: It's American Potato, so I doubt it (and it's too early for me to start drinking), but do they explain how the Republican Party is for the poor?  That's like saying they're the party for women. And gay people. There's no logical explanation.


The GOP is the party for women and gay people. The want to help guide them into a favored position with their maker. Women by learning and accepting their divinely assigned roles as subservient to males, and gays by praying to get better from their horrible depraved affliction.

Liberals just want them to be cogs in the islamofascist secular movement toward a whole world government and to be warriors in the war against Christians.
 
2014-05-15 09:20:44 AM  
He says that the "facts" prove that raising the minimum wage increases the number of people in poverty, but he only cites five years of data to prove that, 2007-2010 and 2012.  Obviously that's a poor sample, especially since it covers the great recession period where of course people lost their jobs in millions and lots of places cut wages to the minimum.

I can't google find a graph that plots minimum wage vs. poverty in the US, the closest that I've run across is minimum wage vs. unemployment that shows that there is a negative correlation there.

1.bp.blogspot.com

The "Restaurant Opportunities Centers United" group says that raising the minimum wage to $10.10 per hour would raise 58% out of poverty . . . with no real information on how they got to those numbers, and what assumptions that they made to arrive there.

I don't think that raising the minimum wage is going to pull 58% out of poverty, but neither am I willing to accept this American Thinker writer's claim that increasing minimum wage increases poverty.  He hasn't managed to make a convincing case for that at all.
 
2014-05-15 09:21:04 AM  

Diogenes: Now tell me how the GOP is the party of blacks, women, and gays.


The idea is to NOT discriminate. When you single out a group; no matter what your intentions are, that's what you do... discriminate. So, really, the GOP is the fairest party out there. It's the Democrats who seem interested in bias (and therefore, discrimination).

Fuggin Bizzy: Dems are the real racists.


Their hearts in the right place, mostly.
 
2014-05-15 09:21:32 AM  

Jackson Herring: the party of santa clause vs. the party of krampus


Zwarte Barack
 
2014-05-15 09:22:29 AM  

Destructor: So, really, the GOP is the fairest party out there.


LOL
 
2014-05-15 09:23:05 AM  

sprawl15: Jackson Herring: the party of santa clause vs. the party of krampus

Zwarte Barack


yikes
 
2014-05-15 09:23:06 AM  

RobotSpider: serpent_sky: but do they explain how the Republican Party is for the poor?

DNRTFA, but, let me guess: They want to help the poors by taking away their socialist lobster and scratch-off-lottery-ticket subsidies to make them more independent and less reliant on handouts and kenyans. Benghazi.


The guy says that lowering the minimum wage will actually cut the number of people in poverty in the US.
 
2014-05-15 09:23:41 AM  
just sayin' "of" and "for" are very similar words.
 
2014-05-15 09:24:17 AM  
"party of"? that isn't my perception

"party for"? pretty much accurate
 
2014-05-15 09:25:15 AM  
So Dems aren't really enslaving "poor" blacks with social programs, blacks are actually rich masterminds who run the country by controlling the Dems.  It all makes sense now.

Thanks, Blackbama.
 
2014-05-15 09:25:25 AM  
It's only a secret to the sheep.  Dems have always been all about power....personal political power.


/they are not your friends
 
2014-05-15 09:27:11 AM  
I'll admit it.  I used to read American Thinker to find out what the not-quite-as-stupid-as-WND conservatives were "thinking".  And partly so I'd hear their arguments and be able to refute them should ever my father start regurgitating them again.  They were blindly conservative, ideologically reactionary, and virulently WASPish, but there was still the barest, thinnest hope they could be reasoned with.

I'll even admit to occasionally *gasp* submitting *gasp* AT articles that were especially dumb for shiats, giggles, and hey let's laugh at the retard.

But lately, they've gone completely and utterly off the deep end.  There was one a few days ago that said gays were biologically incapable of loving their partners.  Not having children with - loving.  There was one that said that college liberals were unconsciously racist against Condeleeza Rice and that's why students protested her giving a commencement speech - complete with direct quotes from the students saying it was because of Iraq.  And which then followed on to say that she should have been accepted solely because she was black - because apparently judging someone only upon their race is not racism.

I don't know if they're just trolling their audience the way WND does with it's books and DVD sales, or if they really have just gone insane.  But I humbly apologize for and swear never to inflict the submission queue with another AT article ever again.
 
2014-05-15 09:29:41 AM  
Won't someone think of all those poor, poor billionaires!  They are impoverished by their lack of tax cuts and zero-wage serfs!

Unlike those fatcat so-called "poor" people, who are awash in the filthy riches of entitlements and government assistance programs so they don't go hungry and die!

/DRTFA
 
2014-05-15 09:30:00 AM  
merkin
stinker
 
2014-05-15 09:31:01 AM  

Satanic_Hamster: So is American Thinker admitting that the right wing claims that the Democrats are waging a war on the rich is a made up lie?


Occupy Wall Street was nothing but an astroturfed effort by the left, which was astroturfed by the right to make it look like the left.
 
2014-05-15 09:32:09 AM  

SilentStrider: mrshowrules: stpauler: While it might be true that democrats generally make more money that their republican cohorts, what does it say about a party that's actually willing to help out their nemesis as opposed to ignoring their base?

It is more accurate to label the Republican party as the party of wealth disparity and label the Liberal party as party who wants to grow the middle-class.

We have a liberal party? When did that happen?


That's a bingo. The most I'll say is that this... Democrats are very interested in helping their rich friends - but genuinely do not want poor people to be homeless, starve, or die from easily preventable diseases.

Republicans, on the other hand, blatantly want a return to pure feudalism.
 
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