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(Wired)   The strangest motorcycle in the world is the Austrian Johammer J1, with no gauges or dials, just displays in the mirrors, hub-centre steering, design based on a cuttlefish and 14hp from an electric motor. It costs more than $30,000 and you'd buy one   (wired.com ) divider line 60
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2014-05-15 07:32:54 AM  
www.movieactors.com
 
2014-05-15 08:41:14 AM  
wallpaper.metalship.org
 
2014-05-15 08:41:18 AM  
...and you'd buy one

Nope.
 
2014-05-15 08:42:30 AM  
No, subby, I would not.  Not when there are so many better options already out there:
http://www.brammo.com/empulse/
http://www.zeromotorcycles.com/
http://motoczysz.com/motorcycles/e1pc_2012
 
2014-05-15 08:43:32 AM  
It weighs 400lbs and has 14hp? I'm pretty sure I could outrun it with a brisk jog.
 
2014-05-15 08:46:17 AM  
Does it come with 29,900$ taped under the seat?

No sale.
 
2014-05-15 08:49:12 AM  
Isn't this a repeat?
 
ZAZ [TotalFark]
2014-05-15 08:49:34 AM  
Does it come with the girl?
 
2014-05-15 08:49:37 AM  
fark no I would not. And I ride every day.

/2013 Bonneville
 
2014-05-15 08:52:08 AM  

Cormee: Isn't this a repeat?


Yes. And it is also a repeat.
 
2014-05-15 08:53:12 AM  
Ugly, no windshield, don't see any cargo areas, no backrest...nope

/old guy. Touring bikes for me
//and a hopped up Sportster for bar hopping.
 
2014-05-15 08:55:03 AM  
No no no.

Hand me my flamethrower......
 
2014-05-15 08:56:44 AM  
front wheel drive? better handling in the snow I guess.
 
2014-05-15 08:58:38 AM  
I wouldn't buy one the last time it was posted, not going to buy one now.  Why does FARK keep begging us to buy the worst thing on the road, ever?
 
2014-05-15 09:05:57 AM  

KidneyStone: Ugly, no windshield, don't see any cargo areas, no backrest...nope

/old guy. Touring bikes for me
//and a hopped up Sportster for bar hopping.


sharp knees!
 
2014-05-15 09:07:37 AM  
www.wired.com

I'm thinking that's just a Sybian with wheels and a handle bar.
 
2014-05-15 09:08:47 AM  
That's what she was hoping anyway.
 
2014-05-15 09:11:19 AM  
For some reason, this quote comes to mind:

Ken Thompson has an automobile which he helped design. Unlike most automobiles, it has neither speedometer, nor gas gauge, nor any of the numerous idiot lights which plague the modern driver. Rather, if the driver makes any mistake, a giant "?" lights up in the center of the dashboard. "The experienced driver", he says, "will usually know what's wrong.

For those of you who aren't computer types:  Ken Thompson was one of the principle designers of the
Unix operating system (the model which Linus Torvalds stole from was inspired by when he designed
Linux), and Unix is justifiably legendary for the uninformative terseness of its error messages.
 
2014-05-15 09:15:06 AM  
Paging repeat tag to geek tab.
Paging repeat tag to geek tab.
 
2014-05-15 09:17:12 AM  
Well subby, while it's unique, it's completely useless. Thing looked like it might be hitting about 30 mph, scooter speed, but not $32,000 motorcycle speed.

And that video sure as fark isn't going to win anyone over. What was it, like 7 seconds of the motorcycle? No look at these mirror based displays? No focus on the 'hub centered steering'? 7 seconds of the thing tooliing by slightly faster than my car would roll downhill?

They showed me nothing to get excited about with this bike, other then the fact that the design is unique. But, I've seen some unique cars, too...

www.barnorama.com
 
2014-05-15 09:22:57 AM  
 
2014-05-15 09:24:45 AM  

Abe Vigoda's Ghost: [www.wired.com image 660x439]

I'm thinking that's just a Sybian with wheels and a handle bar.


Whelp, just lol'd in class. Thanks for that
 
2014-05-15 09:30:14 AM  
Man, now I want to buy it just to piss off all of you opinionated old men.
 
2014-05-15 09:30:37 AM  

grinding_journalist: Superior:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MTT_Turbine_Superbike


While that is an awesome piece of engineering, the practicality of that bike is limited by the fact that the input lag on throttle is measured in seconds.  If you have no immediate intention of killing yourself, then that bike is pretty much limited to the drag strip.
 
2014-05-15 09:30:47 AM  

KidneyStone: Ugly, no windshield, don't see any cargo areas, no backrest...nope

/old guy. Touring bikes for me
//and a hopped up Sportster for bar hopping.


Heh...I'm not sure you need a windshield if the top speed is "fast jog"....

/kinda like the styling and no-gauges thing, though
 
2014-05-15 09:30:55 AM  
That's gonna sell about as well as this.

upload.wikimedia.org
 
2014-05-15 09:32:14 AM  
i560.photobucket.com
 
2014-05-15 09:33:02 AM  

lmxloco: ...and you'd buy one

Nope.

 
2014-05-15 09:34:18 AM  
Ugly and if the youtube video is any indication, it sounds like a segway with a bearing problem.
 
2014-05-15 09:40:54 AM  

Fish in a Barrel: lmxloco: ...and you'd buy one

Nope.


Nope
 
2014-05-15 09:42:34 AM  
...Gary?  What have they done to you?
 
2014-05-15 09:43:09 AM  
TETSUOOOOOOO!
 
2014-05-15 09:43:37 AM  

Whiskey Dickens: Man, now I want to buy it just to piss off all of you opinionated old men.


I just don't like people telling me what my opinion is.  But hey, if you want to blow $35k to try to piss me off, go for it.
 
2014-05-15 09:59:44 AM  

bikerbob59: Fish in a Barrel: lmxloco: ...and you'd buy one

Nope.

Nope

 
2014-05-15 10:01:03 AM  

Abe Vigoda's Ghost: [www.wired.com image 660x439]

I'm thinking that's just a Sybian with wheels and a handle bar.

 
I'm envisioning your mouse smoking, as you furiously click it to open Photoshop.
 
2014-05-15 10:03:53 AM  
No gauges?!  Who the hell thinks that's a good idea?  How the hell do you tell when the charge is getting low?

/Did not RTFA
//Would much rather have a Britten
 
2014-05-15 10:05:53 AM  
No, no I woldnt.

93 miles on a charge and then you are stuck wherever you have stopped for 8 hours while you wait for the batteries to recharge.

Hell no.

/A sybian maybe, but not for that price.
 
2014-05-15 10:07:51 AM  

fluffy2097: That's gonna sell about as well as this.

[upload.wikimedia.org image 850x610]


If they add that Sybian option as someone already mentioned, half of the population just made room in their garage for one of these.
 
2014-05-15 10:17:46 AM  

Uncle Tractor: [i560.photobucket.com image 640x480]


I smell a photoshop contest.
 
2014-05-15 10:18:22 AM  
image.shutterstock.com
 
2014-05-15 10:25:56 AM  
Looks overpriced and cheezy.

/Would not buy.
 
2014-05-15 10:26:56 AM  

Dr Jack Badofsky: No gauges?!  Who the hell thinks that's a good idea?  How the hell do you tell when the charge is getting low?

/Did not RTFA
//Would much rather have a Britten


Britten was taken from the motorycling world far too soon.
 
2014-05-15 10:33:37 AM  
Design based on a cuttlefish, eh.

Was this the creator?

i1.ytimg.com
 
2014-05-15 10:35:19 AM  
...and you'd buy one

s28.postimg.org

Like hell I will.
 
2014-05-15 10:39:39 AM  
So Wired just republishes old stories and new? At least change the headline
 
2014-05-15 10:43:01 AM  

Psylence: Dr Jack Badofsky: No gauges?!  Who the hell thinks that's a good idea?  How the hell do you tell when the charge is getting low?

/Did not RTFA
//Would much rather have a Britten

Britten was taken from the motorycling world far too soon.


Agreed.
 
2014-05-15 10:43:40 AM  
The author of TFA is a full-on loon.

The idiotic headline says the thing was "inspired by drug use".  Then later in TFA they say it was inspired by a cuttlefish!

W. T. F. ???????
 
2014-05-15 11:02:16 AM  

DjangoStonereaver: For some reason, this quote comes to mind:

Ken Thompson has an automobile which he helped design. Unlike most automobiles, it has neither speedometer, nor gas gauge, nor any of the numerous idiot lights which plague the modern driver. Rather, if the driver makes any mistake, a giant "?" lights up in the center of the dashboard. "The experienced driver", he says, "will usually know what's wrong.

For those of you who aren't computer types:  Ken Thompson was one of the principle designers of the
Unix operating system (the model which Linus Torvalds stole from was inspired by when he designed
Linux), and Unix is justifiably legendary for the uninformative terseness of its error messages.


Sounds familiar...

25.media.tumblr.com
 
2014-05-15 11:04:00 AM  
A Hideous-Beautiful Electric Motorcycle Inspired by Drug Use

There...fixed FTA Headline.

She's riding that farking thing backerds...

www.wired.com
 
2014-05-15 11:24:26 AM  

lmxloco: ...and you'd buy one

Nope.

 
2014-05-15 01:09:07 PM  
Since this is a repeat I might as well bring up the Lotus bike again, which I'd much rather have:
www.gq.com
 
2014-05-15 01:42:22 PM  

Norwegian Squirrel: Since this is a repeat I might as well bring up the Lotus bike again, which I'd much rather have:

img.fark.net

Don't know how practical it is, but it's certainly beautiful!
 
2014-05-15 03:34:56 PM  
When I posted my boobies, I knew this was a duplicate.
Leaving satisfied
 
2014-05-15 04:22:32 PM  

spickus: ...and you'd buy one

[s28.postimg.org image 640x382]

Like hell I will.


Oooo... you have a Can Am? I've been meaning to test ride one for years, before they fark it up by getting rid of the manual transformer. How do you like it? Were you a prior motorcycle rider?
 
2014-05-15 04:26:47 PM  

Stone Meadow: Norwegian Squirrel: Since this is a repeat I might as well bring up the Lotus bike again, which I'd much rather have:
[img.fark.net image 635x435]

Don't know how practical it is, but it's certainly beautiful!


As someone who rides motorcycles...  it looks like more of a torture rack than things I have raced competitvely. Lotus does better with cars than bikes. Rather have a Norton NRV588.
 
2014-05-15 05:03:12 PM  

Psylence: Stone Meadow: Norwegian Squirrel: Since this is a repeat I might as well bring up the Lotus bike again, which I'd much rather have:
[img.fark.net image 635x435]

Don't know how practical it is, but it's certainly beautiful!

As someone who rides motorcycles...  it looks like more of a torture rack than things I have raced competitvely. Lotus does better with cars than bikes. Rather have a Norton NRV588.


Yeah, I can't imagine the load on the wrists, and I bet that seat is kinda....hard as nails.  But than again, I'd own a sportbike and commute every day of the week if I could.
 
2014-05-15 08:02:36 PM  

Dr Jack Badofsky: Psylence: Stone Meadow: Norwegian Squirrel: Since this is a repeat I might as well bring up the Lotus bike again, which I'd much rather have:
[img.fark.net image 635x435]

Don't know how practical it is, but it's certainly beautiful!

As someone who rides motorcycles...  it looks like more of a torture rack than things I have raced competitvely. Lotus does better with cars than bikes. Rather have a Norton NRV588.

Yeah, I can't imagine the load on the wrists, and I bet that seat is kinda....hard as nails.  But than again, I'd own a sportbike and commute every day of the week if I could.


Ya, the first time I saw that I thought it looked like sheer unadulterated vomit. Giant pointless cowling.

Psylence: spickus: ...and you'd buy one

[s28.postimg.org image 640x382]

Like hell I will.

Oooo... you have a Can Am? I've been meaning to test ride one for years, before they fark it up by getting rid of the manual transformer. How do you like it? Were you a prior motorcycle rider?


Why do you want a manual transmission? And no, before you snidely go 'if you rode you'd know', I ride every day. Every. Day. And have done so for a year now. I somewhat enjoy the feel of the manual transmission, but honestly, it's not like it really increases the performance of the bike, compared to a comparable modern auto trans or CVT, it's just another rider-based failure point.  I had fully intended to buy a CTX700 when I traded in my old bike for something fuel injected (winter + carbs + no garage + apartment living = fark you, I'm not standing here for 15 minutes in the parking lot idling to be able to ride to work), but the Honda Dealer wouldn't give me 1k on my trade in, and the Triumph dealer gave me 5k.

I enjoy riding. No, I love riding. Part of it may be fiddling with gearshifts, but frankly, it doesn't make my dick hard, and I could do without it.
 
2014-05-15 08:25:08 PM  

kroonermanblack: Dr Jack Badofsky: Psylence: Stone Meadow: Norwegian Squirrel: Since this is a repeat I might as well bring up the Lotus bike again, which I'd much rather have:
[img.fark.net image 635x435]

Don't know how practical it is, but it's certainly beautiful!

As someone who rides motorcycles...  it looks like more of a torture rack than things I have raced competitvely. Lotus does better with cars than bikes. Rather have a Norton NRV588.

Yeah, I can't imagine the load on the wrists, and I bet that seat is kinda....hard as nails.  But than again, I'd own a sportbike and commute every day of the week if I could.

Ya, the first time I saw that I thought it looked like sheer unadulterated vomit. Giant pointless cowling.

Psylence: spickus: ...and you'd buy one

[s28.postimg.org image 640x382]

Like hell I will.

Oooo... you have a Can Am? I've been meaning to test ride one for years, before they fark it up by getting rid of the manual transformer. How do you like it? Were you a prior motorcycle rider?

Why do you want a manual transmission? And no, before you snidely go 'if you rode you'd know', I ride every day. Every. Day. And have done so for a year now. I somewhat enjoy the feel of the manual transmission, but honestly, it's not like it really increases the performance of the bike, compared to a comparable modern auto trans or CVT, it's just another rider-based failure point.  I had fully intended to buy a CTX700 when I traded in my old bike for something fuel injected (winter + carbs + no garage + apartment living = fark you, I'm not standing here for 15 minutes in the parking lot idling to be able to ride to work), but the Honda Dealer wouldn't give me 1k on my trade in, and the Triumph dealer gave me 5k.

I enjoy riding. No, I love riding. Part of it may be fiddling with gearshifts, but frankly, it doesn't make my dick hard, and I could do without it.


For me, the biggest reason is control.  And engine braking.  I know that ATV's have developed compensatory EB systems for their CVT's, but I like knowing that the gear I'm in has limitations, and forces me to remain aware (not that motorcyclists can afford at all to become distracted, mind you), especially while mid-turn.  The other aspect is the enjoyment of the driving experience.  Maybe for a 3-wheeler the shifting is not as important, and to me, they're not "real" motorcyclists anyway, but I welcome them to the ranks of non-car road-sharers.  The Can-Am is an interesting bike, but only 110 mph top speed?  That's not much better than a dual-sport bike, and I wonder if the Dakar replica versions of BMW's might do faster.
 
2014-05-15 10:20:49 PM  

Dr Jack Badofsky: For me, the biggest reason is control.  And engine braking.  I know that ATV's have developed compensatory EB systems for their CVT's, but I like knowing that the gear I'm in has limitations, and forces me to remain aware (not that motorcyclists can afford at all to become distracted, mind you), especially while mid-turn.  The other aspect is the enjoyment of the driving experience.  Maybe for a 3-wheeler the shifting is not as important, and to me, they're not "real" motorcyclists anyway, but I welcome them to the ranks of non-car road-sharers.  The Can-Am is an interesting bike, but only 110 mph top speed?  That's not much better than a dual-sport bike, and I wonder if the Dakar replica versions of BMW's might do faster.


Maybe it's because my first 'bike' was a Vespa (250cc, had it about a month but needed more speed/power), but engine braking worked fine on mine. It wasn't as drastic (no dropping to first from 3rd) but the light weight, combined with the natural engine braking, did a good job.  It also did a fine job in turning and mid-turn acceleration.  Obviously it had a CVT.

As for 'gear has limitations', I'm curious as to what you're riding? Most modern bikes aren't really that drastic on gearing, being roughly 5-10 mph increments till you hit 5th, then being something stupid like 40-100.  If you really plan on riding a bike to the bleeding edge of the hardware it could make a difference, but I doubt you do. And even if you have a 7 speed or some other oddball, you get what I'm saying. The gear ratios aren't super difficult as you go up/down, even if you're over-rev'ing for snow/ice situations.   But...'only' going 110? Where the fark do you live that you can hit anything over 90 safely, let alone over 100, to matter?

Driving experience...meh. That one's so singular and objective that I can't really comment. I'll admit there's a satisfying feeling to having the gears click past in perfect sync, but I also wouldn't really miss it, and when/if I end up buying another ride I'm going to aim for an auto, just to see how it goes.  To me, it's just akin to saying 'you get more power/control in a manual' for cars. You might, but the situation where you need that is so rare that it's kinda moot.
 
2014-05-16 09:09:52 AM  

kroonermanblack: Dr Jack Badofsky: For me, the biggest reason is control.  And engine braking.  I know that ATV's have developed compensatory EB systems for their CVT's, but I like knowing that the gear I'm in has limitations, and forces me to remain aware (not that motorcyclists can afford at all to become distracted, mind you), especially while mid-turn.  The other aspect is the enjoyment of the driving experience.  Maybe for a 3-wheeler the shifting is not as important, and to me, they're not "real" motorcyclists anyway, but I welcome them to the ranks of non-car road-sharers.  The Can-Am is an interesting bike, but only 110 mph top speed?  That's not much better than a dual-sport bike, and I wonder if the Dakar replica versions of BMW's might do faster.

Maybe it's because my first 'bike' was a Vespa (250cc, had it about a month but needed more speed/power), but engine braking worked fine on mine. It wasn't as drastic (no dropping to first from 3rd) but the light weight, combined with the natural engine braking, did a good job.  It also did a fine job in turning and mid-turn acceleration.  Obviously it had a CVT.

As for 'gear has limitations', I'm curious as to what you're riding? Most modern bikes aren't really that drastic on gearing, being roughly 5-10 mph increments till you hit 5th, then being something stupid like 40-100.  If you really plan on riding a bike to the bleeding edge of the hardware it could make a difference, but I doubt you do. And even if you have a 7 speed or some other oddball, you get what I'm saying. The gear ratios aren't super difficult as you go up/down, even if you're over-rev'ing for snow/ice situations.   But...'only' going 110? Where the fark do you live that you can hit anything over 90 safely, let alone over 100, to matter?

Driving experience...meh. That one's so singular and objective that I can't really comment. I'll admit there's a satisfying feeling to having the gears click past in perfect sync, but I also wouldn't really miss it, and whe ...


I'm in between roadbikes at the moment, but my last one was a 2008 ZX-10R. (street riding history:  FJ1100 that I trained / took my road test on, 600 Hurricane, FZ1000, ZX-9) I'm mainly a sportbike person.  Was the Vespa a 2-stroke or 4 (just curious)?  I live in the northeast along Lake Erie.  There is  not much in the way of population here compared to other citified areas, so it's a bit safer to get into triple digits, even on I-90, not that I do so routinely, but a zip up to 110 - 120 now and then in the right circumstances is fun.  I'm not sure how the Can Ams are limited to their top speed (drag, fuel cutoff?), but at 110 topout, that does not leave much room between interstate cruising speed (75-85).

I disagree about the 5 mph differential between gears (maybe on a Harley or other cruiser) though.  With many bikes good for well into the mid-100's, the gaps are most likely bigger on them.  Snow / ice on a street bike?  GAH!!  That can be tricky with 450+ lbs of weight you're balancing between your legs.  On a YZ-250 maybe, but a street bike?  I'll wait until spring, however hard that may be to do.
 
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