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(The New York Times)   With loss to Heat, Nets finish season with cold empty hands. Look forward to their descent into uncertainty   (nytimes.com) divider line 35
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2014-05-15 10:00:12 AM
With all the money coming off their books, will the Nets try to attract James or another high-profile guy?
 
2014-05-15 10:21:52 AM

Lost Thought 00: With all the money coming off their books, will the Nets try to attract James or another high-profile guy?


They'll have to get some free agents, I think they sold all of their picks for the next draft. They could throw some crazy money at Kevin Durant, but OKC seems to have good team chemistry. His contract ends in 2016, though. If I were the Nets, I'd throw a hail mary to see what happens. Long contract, big wages, and playing in NYC? He'd have to be tempted, at least.
 
2014-05-15 10:28:38 AM
It's funny, forever the Nets were always the LA Clippers to the Knicks LA Lakers, but the last couple of seasons it's been the opposite, the Nets and the Clippers have over achieved, while the Lakers and Knicks toil in mediocrity.
 
2014-05-15 10:37:54 AM

Langston: Lost Thought 00: With all the money coming off their books, will the Nets try to attract James or another high-profile guy?

They'll have to get some free agents, I think they sold all of their picks for the next draft. They could throw some crazy money at Kevin Durant, but OKC seems to have good team chemistry. His contract ends in 2016, though. If I were the Nets, I'd throw a hail mary to see what happens. Long contract, big wages, and playing in NYC? He'd have to be tempted, at least.


Not to mention Brooklyn has a really good core group of younger guys, and on paper simply seems to be missing that big star to lead them.
 
2014-05-15 10:43:16 AM

Lost Thought 00: Langston: Lost Thought 00: With all the money coming off their books, will the Nets try to attract James or another high-profile guy?

They'll have to get some free agents, I think they sold all of their picks for the next draft. They could throw some crazy money at Kevin Durant, but OKC seems to have good team chemistry. His contract ends in 2016, though. If I were the Nets, I'd throw a hail mary to see what happens. Long contract, big wages, and playing in NYC? He'd have to be tempted, at least.

Not to mention Brooklyn has a really good core group of younger guys, and on paper simply seems to be missing that big star to lead them.


I don't follow them well enough to know their needs, but seeing them play so well in the playoffs (not counting some end-of-game collapses), I agree with you. They look ready to take a big step with just a couple big players to round them out. Having a billionaire Russian owner that wants to win makes me think they'll drop the money to get what they want and to hell with the salary cap.
 
2014-05-15 10:51:33 AM
Why don't the Nets sign Beyonce's sister to a contract?  I understand she doesn't have any problem putting a hand up in front of people's faces.
 
2014-05-15 12:15:40 PM

Langston: I don't follow them well enough to know their needs, but seeing them play so well in the playoffs (not counting some end-of-game collapses), I agree with you. They look ready to take a big step with just a couple big players to round them out. Having a billionaire Russian owner that wants to win makes me think they'll drop the money to get what they want and to hell with the salary cap


Good luck with no draft picks and being already over the cap until the 2016-17 season.

This was the apex of the Nets (sad), they're going to suck for a while
 
2014-05-15 12:27:38 PM

MugzyBrown: Langston: I don't follow them well enough to know their needs, but seeing them play so well in the playoffs (not counting some end-of-game collapses), I agree with you. They look ready to take a big step with just a couple big players to round them out. Having a billionaire Russian owner that wants to win makes me think they'll drop the money to get what they want and to hell with the salary cap

Good luck with no draft picks and being already over the cap until the 2016-17 season.

This was the apex of the Nets (sad), they're going to suck for a while


I don't fully understand the NBA salary cap rules. Is it possible for a team to sign players while they are over the cap, as long as they pay the tax premium? What about trading for players?
 
2014-05-15 12:31:25 PM
Just like the rest of us.
 
2014-05-15 12:33:33 PM

Langston: Lost Thought 00: Langston: Lost Thought 00: With all the money coming off their books, will the Nets try to attract James or another high-profile guy?

They'll have to get some free agents, I think they sold all of their picks for the next draft. They could throw some crazy money at Kevin Durant, but OKC seems to have good team chemistry. His contract ends in 2016, though. If I were the Nets, I'd throw a hail mary to see what happens. Long contract, big wages, and playing in NYC? He'd have to be tempted, at least.

Not to mention Brooklyn has a really good core group of younger guys, and on paper simply seems to be missing that big star to lead them.

I don't follow them well enough to know their needs, but seeing them play so well in the playoffs (not counting some end-of-game collapses), I agree with you. They look ready to take a big step with just a couple big players to round them out. Having a billionaire Russian owner that wants to win makes me think they'll drop the money to get what they want and to hell with the salary cap.


Please take KD away from OKC, the butthurt here in Oklahoma would fuel me living here for another 10 years.

Go Spurs
 
2014-05-15 12:33:52 PM

Lost Thought 00: I don't fully understand the NBA salary cap rules. Is it possible for a team to sign players while they are over the cap, as long as they pay the tax premium? What about trading for players?


There are built in exceptions for certain level players and you can go over the cap to an extent when resigning your own players.

But in general, you can't sign free agents if you're over the cap.
 
2014-05-15 12:53:05 PM
Sports are so exciting when the same team wins year after year after year!
 
2014-05-15 01:10:09 PM

Lost Thought 00: MugzyBrown: Langston: I don't follow them well enough to know their needs, but seeing them play so well in the playoffs (not counting some end-of-game collapses), I agree with you. They look ready to take a big step with just a couple big players to round them out. Having a billionaire Russian owner that wants to win makes me think they'll drop the money to get what they want and to hell with the salary cap

Good luck with no draft picks and being already over the cap until the 2016-17 season.

This was the apex of the Nets (sad), they're going to suck for a while

I don't fully understand the NBA salary cap rules. Is it possible for a team to sign players while they are over the cap, as long as they pay the tax premium? What about trading for players?


There are very small exceptions a team over the cap can use to get players who are not already on the team.  The biggest is around $5 million per year or a bit more and can be split among players, but that's certianly not enough to get top players.  But it can get key bench guys.  For example, San Antonio used it for Marco Bellineli this summer.

But Brooklyn is fairly boned.  I like Livingston and Plumlee.  Williams sucks in general, Lopez needs to get healthy, and the rest are horrifically overpaid old players.  They have maybe one more year of contention before the bills come due: old players retire, but still way over the cap.  The Russian mobster will sell the team and they'll suck for ages.
 
2014-05-15 01:15:06 PM

spman: It's funny, forever the Nets were always the LA Clippers to the Knicks LA Lakers, but the last couple of seasons it's been the opposite, the Nets and the Clippers have over achieved, while the Lakers and Knicks toil in mediocrity.


Depends on what you mean by "over achieved", but last year the Knicks advanced to the second round and the Nets got knocked out in the first. And frankly, although the Knicks had the prestige, the fanbase has known they've sucked for a long time.
 
2014-05-15 01:18:00 PM
Their hands are cold because senior citizens eventually lose cirulation to their appendages.

DUH.
 
2014-05-15 01:48:18 PM
The Nets are mediocre. 

Lost Thought 00: MugzyBrown: Langston: I don't follow them well enough to know their needs, but seeing them play so well in the playoffs (not counting some end-of-game collapses), I agree with you. They look ready to take a big step with just a couple big players to round them out. Having a billionaire Russian owner that wants to win makes me think they'll drop the money to get what they want and to hell with the salary cap

Good luck with no draft picks and being already over the cap until the 2016-17 season.

This was the apex of the Nets (sad), they're going to suck for a while

I don't fully understand the NBA salary cap rules. Is it possible for a team to sign players while they are over the cap, as long as they pay the tax premium? What about trading for players?


 The only thing Brooklyn has going for it is that the east sucks. Someone had to make it to the second round in the east.  Match the east up 1-8 against the 1-8 in the west and the east would be lucky to win more than one series.


8 Dallas Atlanta
7 Memphis Charlotte
6 Golden State Brooklyn
5 Portland Washington
4 Houston Chicago
3 LAC Toronto
2 OKC Miami
1 San Antonio Indiana


With the Pacers taking a deuce, I only see the Miami series being competitive.
 
2014-05-15 01:58:36 PM

Devo: The Nets are mediocre.  Lost Thought 00: MugzyBrown: Langston: I don't follow them well enough to know their needs, but seeing them play so well in the playoffs (not counting some end-of-game collapses), I agree with you. They look ready to take a big step with just a couple big players to round them out. Having a billionaire Russian owner that wants to win makes me think they'll drop the money to get what they want and to hell with the salary cap

Good luck with no draft picks and being already over the cap until the 2016-17 season.

This was the apex of the Nets (sad), they're going to suck for a while

I don't fully understand the NBA salary cap rules. Is it possible for a team to sign players while they are over the cap, as long as they pay the tax premium? What about trading for players?

 The only thing Brooklyn has going for it is that the east sucks. Someone had to make it to the second round in the east.  Match the east up 1-8 against the 1-8 in the west and the east would be lucky to win more than one series.


8 Dallas Atlanta
7 Memphis Charlotte
6 Golden State Brooklyn
5 Portland Washington
4 Houston Chicago
3 LAC Toronto
2 OKC Miami
1 San Antonio Indiana


With the Pacers taking a deuce, I only see the Miami series being competitive.


Portland-Washington would have been a good series this year.
 
2014-05-15 02:02:52 PM

Warlordtrooper: I need "EXCITING OUTCOMES" because I don't actually understand or appreciate what is happening in the field of play!


Fixed that for you.
 
2014-05-15 02:06:27 PM

Warlordtrooper: Sports are so exciting when the same team wins year after year after year!


I, too, hate when the best teams win the championships.
 
2014-05-15 02:09:11 PM

Warlordtrooper: Sports are so exciting when the same team wins year after year after year!


The NBA isnt the league for you.  There is plenty of parity in other leagues and I am sure you love them.

Deron Williams is shiat.
 
2014-05-15 02:35:10 PM
Bill Simmons @BillSimmons 3h
If KG retires (likely) and PP leaves (likely), then the Nets gave up 3 unprotected firsts + a 2017 pick swap for 5 playoff wins. https://twitter.com/search?q=%23ouch&src=hash" data-query-source="hashtag_click" class="twitter-hashtag pretty-link js-nav" dir="ltr">#ouch

Ouch indeed.
 
2014-05-15 02:38:00 PM

Mike_LowELL: Warlordtrooper: I need "EXCITING OUTCOMES" because I don't actually understand or appreciate what is happening in the field of play!

Fixed that for you.


What are your feelings on Soccer and Hockey played at their highest levels?
 
2014-05-15 03:10:09 PM

Jim from Saint Paul: What are your feelings on Soccer and Hockey played at their highest levels?


In what regard?  If you're saying that I'm denigrating hockey and soccer because those games are extremely volatile as played out at their highest levels, that wasn't my intent, although that volatility most certainly is a part of what makes it appealing for a lot of people, as is the same with the National Football League and March Madness.  If one doesn't understand what's happening in the field of play, then you need to generate excitement through other means, and "exciting outcomes" is one of them.  (This is part of the reason American football is so popular: It's a sport where you don't actually have to think while you're watching it, because the announcers will tell you everything that happened after the play is over.)  When I see people repeatedly bag on the NBA because "the best teams always win", it's basically to say that an unexpected outcome is more important to getting excitement out of the sport than the actual game being played on the court.  If your sport is interesting, and you have an appreciation for what's going on in the field of play, then "the best two teams are going to play a seven-game series" should be great, and most certainly not something to be reviled.
 
2014-05-15 03:30:17 PM

Gunny Highway: Deron Williams is shiat.


what the hell happened to this kid?  at one time he was hailed as the second coming.
 
2014-05-15 03:49:04 PM

Mike_LowELL: Jim from Saint Paul: What are your feelings on Soccer and Hockey played at their highest levels?

In what regard?  If you're saying that I'm denigrating hockey and soccer because those games are extremely volatile as played out at their highest levels, that wasn't my intent, although that volatility most certainly is a part of what makes it appealing for a lot of people, as is the same with the National Football League and March Madness.  If one doesn't understand what's happening in the field of play, then you need to generate excitement through other means, and "exciting outcomes" is one of them.  (This is part of the reason American football is so popular: It's a sport where you don't actually have to think while you're watching it, because the announcers will tell you everything that happened after the play is over.)  When I see people repeatedly bag on the NBA because "the best teams always win", it's basically to say that an unexpected outcome is more important to getting excitement out of the sport than the actual game being played on the court.  If your sport is interesting, and you have an appreciation for what's going on in the field of play, then "the best two teams are going to play a seven-game series" should be great, and most certainly not something to be reviled.


Spurs/Heat II is going to be all kinds of sexy.
 
2014-05-15 03:52:18 PM

regindyn: Mike_LowELL: Jim from Saint Paul: What are your feelings on Soccer and Hockey played at their highest levels?

In what regard?  If you're saying that I'm denigrating hockey and soccer because those games are extremely volatile as played out at their highest levels, that wasn't my intent, although that volatility most certainly is a part of what makes it appealing for a lot of people, as is the same with the National Football League and March Madness.  If one doesn't understand what's happening in the field of play, then you need to generate excitement through other means, and "exciting outcomes" is one of them.  (This is part of the reason American football is so popular: It's a sport where you don't actually have to think while you're watching it, because the announcers will tell you everything that happened after the play is over.)  When I see people repeatedly bag on the NBA because "the best teams always win", it's basically to say that an unexpected outcome is more important to getting excitement out of the sport than the actual game being played on the court.  If your sport is interesting, and you have an appreciation for what's going on in the field of play, then "the best two teams are going to play a seven-game series" should be great, and most certainly not something to be reviled.

Spurs/Heat II is going to be all kinds of sexy.


Nah it'll be like senior citizen gay porn, charging black males and floppy old dudes just wide eyed and begging for someone to stop.
 
2014-05-15 03:53:45 PM

Jim from Saint Paul: Devo: The Nets are mediocre.  Lost Thought 00: MugzyBrown: Langston: I don't follow them well enough to know their needs, but seeing them play so well in the playoffs (not counting some end-of-game collapses), I agree with you. They look ready to take a big step with just a couple big players to round them out. Having a billionaire Russian owner that wants to win makes me think they'll drop the money to get what they want and to hell with the salary cap

Good luck with no draft picks and being already over the cap until the 2016-17 season.

This was the apex of the Nets (sad), they're going to suck for a while

I don't fully understand the NBA salary cap rules. Is it possible for a team to sign players while they are over the cap, as long as they pay the tax premium? What about trading for players?

 The only thing Brooklyn has going for it is that the east sucks. Someone had to make it to the second round in the east.  Match the east up 1-8 against the 1-8 in the west and the east would be lucky to win more than one series.


8 Dallas Atlanta
7 Memphis Charlotte
6 Golden State Brooklyn
5 Portland Washington
4 Houston Chicago
3 LAC Toronto
2 OKC Miami
1 San Antonio Indiana


With the Pacers taking a deuce, I only see the Miami series being competitive.

Portland-Washington would have been a good series this year.


Agreed. I would watch that so hard.
 
2014-05-15 03:56:33 PM

stir22: Gunny Highway: Deron Williams is shiat.

what the hell happened to this kid?  at one time he was hailed as the second coming.


Ankle issues and, according to a lot of "leagues guys," Jerry Sloan made him look better than he was.
 
2014-05-15 04:00:04 PM

SenorBenedict: regindyn: Mike_LowELL: Jim from Saint Paul: What are your feelings on Soccer and Hockey played at their highest levels?

In what regard?  If you're saying that I'm denigrating hockey and soccer because those games are extremely volatile as played out at their highest levels, that wasn't my intent, although that volatility most certainly is a part of what makes it appealing for a lot of people, as is the same with the National Football League and March Madness.  If one doesn't understand what's happening in the field of play, then you need to generate excitement through other means, and "exciting outcomes" is one of them.  (This is part of the reason American football is so popular: It's a sport where you don't actually have to think while you're watching it, because the announcers will tell you everything that happened after the play is over.)  When I see people repeatedly bag on the NBA because "the best teams always win", it's basically to say that an unexpected outcome is more important to getting excitement out of the sport than the actual game being played on the court.  If your sport is interesting, and you have an appreciation for what's going on in the field of play, then "the best two teams are going to play a seven-game series" should be great, and most certainly not something to be reviled.

Spurs/Heat II is going to be all kinds of sexy.

Nah it'll be like senior citizen gay porn, charging black males and floppy old dudes just wide eyed and begging for someone to stop.


Go on..
 
2014-05-15 04:02:19 PM

Devo: SenorBenedict: regindyn: Mike_LowELL: Jim from Saint Paul: What are your feelings on Soccer and Hockey played at their highest levels?

In what regard?  If you're saying that I'm denigrating hockey and soccer because those games are extremely volatile as played out at their highest levels, that wasn't my intent, although that volatility most certainly is a part of what makes it appealing for a lot of people, as is the same with the National Football League and March Madness.  If one doesn't understand what's happening in the field of play, then you need to generate excitement through other means, and "exciting outcomes" is one of them.  (This is part of the reason American football is so popular: It's a sport where you don't actually have to think while you're watching it, because the announcers will tell you everything that happened after the play is over.)  When I see people repeatedly bag on the NBA because "the best teams always win", it's basically to say that an unexpected outcome is more important to getting excitement out of the sport than the actual game being played on the court.  If your sport is interesting, and you have an appreciation for what's going on in the field of play, then "the best two teams are going to play a seven-game series" should be great, and most certainly not something to be reviled.

Spurs/Heat II is going to be all kinds of sexy.

Nah it'll be like senior citizen gay porn, charging black males and floppy old dudes just wide eyed and begging for someone to stop.

Go on..


fc00.deviantart.net
 
2014-05-15 04:09:50 PM
Honestly though when I heard Tony Parker got knocked out of the game last night I wondered if all his flopping was evidence of a stroke.
 
2014-05-15 04:30:38 PM
So it's clear now that the Toronto Raptors were the better team, right?
 
2014-05-15 04:46:17 PM
Nah they lost to the nets, just like the Rockets would have apparently lost by fifty against the spurs.
 
2014-05-15 08:13:50 PM

Lost Thought 00: Langston: Lost Thought 00: With all the money coming off their books, will the Nets try to attract James or another high-profile guy?

They'll have to get some free agents, I think they sold all of their picks for the next draft. They could throw some crazy money at Kevin Durant, but OKC seems to have good team chemistry. His contract ends in 2016, though. If I were the Nets, I'd throw a hail mary to see what happens. Long contract, big wages, and playing in NYC? He'd have to be tempted, at least.

Not to mention Brooklyn has a really good core group of younger guys, and on paper simply seems to be missing that big star to lead them.


No. Do you follow the NBA at all or are you just an overly optimistic Nets fan? The Nets are over the cap,  have no young talent, no draft picks and a coach who is overmatched and has no clue how to actually coach. This was a win now team, and they are not winning now or anytime in the future. The big wonder child Deron Williams has turned into crap, Brook Lopez can't stay on the court, KG and PP are retiring or leaving in the next two to three years, combined with no draft picks, who is this "good core group of younger guys"?
 
2014-05-16 01:50:03 AM

BudTheSpud: So it's clear now that the Toronto Raptors were the better team, right?


I think so.

Not seasoned enough. Maybe better next year.
 
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