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(Yahoo)   Yu Darvish's no-hitter, which was broken up with two outs in the ninth, was broken up with two outs in the seventh   (sports.yahoo.com ) divider line
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2014-05-15 11:25:51 AM  
I'm upset that the almost-no-hitter that I watched turned out to be even less almost-er!  RAGE
 
2014-05-15 11:31:17 AM  
So fricken stupid. That was a catchable ball. Doesn't matter if "that's how it's always been scored." That was an error, period.
 
2014-05-15 11:33:35 AM  

jackiepaper: So fricken stupid. That was a catchable ball. Doesn't matter if "that's how it's always been scored." That was an error, period.


Another example why MLB needs a "team error" category. You can't blame one player more than the other, but it should have been caught.
 
2014-05-15 11:35:51 AM  
Seems like the rules say "catchable with normal effort" and they all agreed it was catchable with normal effort. How is that not an error?

/ Not that I care.
 
2014-05-15 11:49:09 AM  
I watch a little baseball but I'm no rules expert. Can somebody explain this to me?

''Of course it was an error,'' Texas manager Ron Washington said. ''It's an error. It's an out. It's not a ball that somebody (dived) for and missed. That's an out. It was misplayed so it's an out.''

If a ball is ruled an error, why is it an out? Doesn't an error usually result in a safe trip to the base?
 
2014-05-15 11:50:06 AM  
Yu Darvish's near no-hitter, which was broken up with two outs in the ninth, was broken up with two outs in the seventh

FTFY, subby
 
2014-05-15 11:52:15 AM  

skrame: I watch a little baseball but I'm no rules expert. Can somebody explain this to me?

''Of course it was an error,'' Texas manager Ron Washington said. ''It's an error. It's an out. It's not a ball that somebody (dived) for and missed. That's an out. It was misplayed so it's an out.''

If a ball is ruled an error, why is it an out? Doesn't an error usually result in a safe trip to the base?


He's saying that under any normal circumstances, the ball that landed safe would have been caught for an out and that since it was not caught it was an error. He's hung up on calling it an out.
 
2014-05-15 12:02:33 PM  

skrame: If a ball is ruled an error, why is it an out? Doesn't an error usually result in a safe trip to the base?


By rule, if a ball is in play, and the fielder(s) commit an error, if the bases are all open the batter is entitled to advance one base.  If there is a baserunner (or baserunners), all are entitled to advance one base unless the error occurs on a dead-ball situation, in which case the runner must touch the base they occupied (tag up, basically) before advancing.  However, if the error occurs in a live ball situation and the batter has already touched the base, he cannot advance if the error occurs after he has left the back and the ball is dead.  A dead ball error cannot result in an out unless the out occurs as a result of catcher's interference, which can be during dead ball or live ball situation.
 
2014-05-15 12:07:02 PM  
I think the biggest problem with that call was that if Darvish wasn't pitching a no-no, it would have been a hit.  The other problem is that if Papi didn't break it up in the 9th, it would have still been an error.
 
2014-05-15 12:11:17 PM  

ladodger34: I think the biggest problem with that call was that if Darvish wasn't pitching a no-no, it would have been a hit.  The other problem is that if Papi didn't break it up in the 9th, it would have still been an error.


As one of the commentators said before the ninth inning, the baseball gods would determine it: if it really was an error, then Darvish would get the no-no - if it was really a hit, somebody else would break it up.

I'm not a religious person, but darn if that didn't work out as prophesied.
 
2014-05-15 12:18:21 PM  
That's OK. The Rangers are making up for it by getting a bunch of No-Winners. :(
 
2014-05-15 12:23:14 PM  

idesofmarch: As one of the commentators said before the ninth inning, the baseball gods would determine it: if it really was an error, then Darvish would get the no-no - if it was really a hit, somebody else would break it up.


Actually, my biggest problem with the call was Harold Reynolds' hissy fit on MLB Network.  I usually fall asleep to MLB every night but on Friday night, man.. I had to switch the damn channel.  I watched the end of Django Unchained instead.
 
2014-05-15 12:27:32 PM  
Can we get rid of errors now?
 
2014-05-15 12:53:59 PM  

DeWayne Mann: Can we get rid of errors now?


too iconic to get rid of

/cranky over having submitted this yesterday with a better headline
 
2014-05-15 12:59:29 PM  

The Bestest: too iconic to get rid of


Ok, ok, we can get rid of hits. Everything is an error on the pitcher unless an error on some other fielder makes more sense.

Works for me.
 
2014-05-15 12:59:50 PM  

DeWayne Mann: Can we get rid of errors now?


The error that begat all errors. Would you like a hold with that comment? I think they just give them out
 
2014-05-15 01:08:51 PM  

thecpt: DeWayne Mann: Can we get rid of errors now?

The error that begat all errors. Would you like a hold with that comment? I think they just give them out


I miss the good ol' days when you could get a hold without recording an out.

Oh well. At least you can still get a hold and a loss. That's what really matters.

(Side note: look at this Kyle Farnsworth game: http://www.baseball-reference.com/boxes/TBA/TBA201207040.shtml)
 
2014-05-15 01:13:20 PM  

DeWayne Mann: thecpt: DeWayne Mann: Can we get rid of errors now?

The error that begat all errors. Would you like a hold with that comment? I think they just give them out

I miss the good ol' days when you could get a hold without recording an out.

Oh well. At least you can still get a hold and a loss. That's what really matters.

(Side note: look at this Kyle Farnsworth game: http://www.baseball-reference.com/boxes/TBA/TBA201207040.shtml)


Ooh!  A chance to point out how much of a whiny biatch Farnsworth is.

He's a whiny biatch!
 
2014-05-15 01:20:19 PM  

Dafatone: Ooh! A chance to point out how much of a whiny biatch Farnsworth is.

He's a whiny biatch!


You gotta admit that going from "closer" to "cut in order to save 750k" in a week's time is kinda silly. For a number of reasons.
 
2014-05-15 01:21:41 PM  

DeWayne Mann: thecpt: DeWayne Mann: Can we get rid of errors now?

The error that begat all errors. Would you like a hold with that comment? I think they just give them out

I miss the good ol' days when you could get a hold without recording an out.

Oh well. At least you can still get a hold and a loss. That's what really matters.

(Side note: look at this Kyle Farnsworth game: http://www.baseball-reference.com/boxes/TBA/TBA201207040.shtml)


Hey, who wants a blown save? Nobody? Too farking bad.
 
2014-05-15 01:26:33 PM  

DeWayne Mann: Dafatone: Ooh! A chance to point out how much of a whiny biatch Farnsworth is.

He's a whiny biatch!

You gotta admit that going from "closer" to "cut in order to save 750k" in a week's time is kinda silly. For a number of reasons.


Yes, but on the other hand, he's bad at getting people out.

I might've cut Valverde first, but Valverde's apparently somewhat of a mentor in the bullpen, while Farnsworth is, well, Farnsworth.

Maybe don't require Lucas Duda to make the play of his life if you want to keep your job next time.  A little early to abandon ship on him, but the Mets have young arms in the minors to try out, and Farnsworth slipped back to classic Farnsworth: fall behind 2-0 or 3-1 in a big spot and groove a fastball.
 
2014-05-15 01:50:05 PM  

Dafatone: I might've cut Valverde first, but Valverde's apparently somewhat of a mentor in the bullpen


I shudder to think of the things Valverde is passing along to other pitchers.

/will once again point out that Valverde giving up Tanaka's first major league hit last night gave me jollies
 
2014-05-15 02:29:33 PM  

DeWayne Mann: Side note: look at this Kyle Farnsworth game: http://www.baseball-reference.com/boxes/TBA/TBA201207040.shtml


One of those situations where the box score really does tell you all you need to know:

Kyle Farnsworth replaces David Price pitching
Eric Chavez pinch hits for Jayson Nix (3B) batting 9th
t8 1-3 0 --- 6,(3-2) NYY E. Chavez K. Farnsworth 7% 19% Walk
t8 1-3 0 1-- 3,(0-2) O NYY D. Jeter K. Farnsworth -6% 14% Strikeout Looking
t8 1-3 1 1-- 7,(3-2) NYY C. Granderson K. Farnsworth 7% 20% Walk; Chavez to 2B
t8 1-3 1 12- 4,(3-0) NYY M. Teixeira K. Farnsworth 11% 31% Walk; Chavez to 3B; Granderson to 2B
t8 1-3 1 123 6,(3-2) R NYY A. Rodriguez K. Farnsworth 16% 48% Walk; Chavez Scores; Granderson to 3B; Teixeira to 2B
Jake McGee tells Kyle Farnsworth "Good news, everyone!  You're hitting the showers."

 Jake McGee replaces Kyle Farnsworth pitching


See?  He left the game with the Yankees still ahead 3-2!  PUT THAT HOLD ON THE BOARD!
 
2014-05-15 02:32:56 PM  

ladodger34: Actually, my biggest problem with the call was Harold Reynolds' hissy fit on MLB Network.


Harold Reynolds has one use on MLB: He stands on the mini-field and explains things as he acts out plays.  He's really good at that.

And then bears should be used to chase him off the set.
 
2014-05-15 02:40:33 PM  

chimp_ninja: ladodger34: Actually, my biggest problem with the call was Harold Reynolds' hissy fit on MLB Network.

Harold Reynolds has one use on MLB: He stands on the mini-field and explains things as he acts out plays.  He's really good at that.

And then bears should be used to chase him off the set.


oh man, you guys are gonna LOVE it when Fox (prime) starts airing games again

/Buck and Reynolds in the booth
 
2014-05-15 02:42:54 PM  
oh, apparently I haven't kept up.. Fox is gonna go with a three man booth, adding Verducci to the mix as well
 
2014-05-15 03:51:03 PM  

The Bestest: oh, apparently I haven't kept up.. Fox is gonna go with a three man booth, adding Verducci to the mix as well


Apparently you fellows have missed the three man booth on FS1.. it's awfully interesting (with awful being emphasized).  When I watched the Dodgers-Giants last week, the Buck-Verducci booth was actually pretty good.. add HR, ugh.. and I like HR..

As Mr. Chimp said before, Mr. Reynolds is awesome at doing those Diamond Demos.. he is terrible at everything else..
 
2014-05-15 06:45:47 PM  

skrame: I watch a little baseball but I'm no rules expert. Can somebody explain this to me?

''Of course it was an error,'' Texas manager Ron Washington said. ''It's an error. It's an out. It's not a ball that somebody (dived) for and missed. That's an out. It was misplayed so it's an out.''

If a ball is ruled an error, why is it an out? Doesn't an error usually result in a safe trip to the base?


Most of the rules on defense are highly subjective and are often ruled in a seemingly random fashion.  Much of it has to do with intent- which is obviously subjective.

Try asking people what is or is not a balk!
 
2014-05-15 10:33:10 PM  
I knew his no hitter was broken up in the 7th when I saw it. Can I be an MLB scorer?
 
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