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(14 News Evansville)   Can't pay child support to your four children? That's no unprotected sex for you for the duration of your probation.... Unless you can come up with $100,000 in overdue support   (14news.com ) divider line 139
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2014-05-15 08:38:07 AM  

Cold_Sassy: My brother says that people like this should be offered $5,000.00 to undergo a free vasectomy.  He thinks that most of this sort would jump on it and it'd be a lot cheaper for the taxpayers in the long run.


How about $500? I think this sounds great, offer deadbeats and morons money if they get a vasectomy. Of course, you'd need to sell it to both sides. For the conservatives, you could spin it as reducing the number of people pumping out babies to mooch of taxpayer dollars. For liberals, spin it as reducing poverty. Yeah, I think this has potential.
 
2014-05-15 08:40:10 AM  

WhoopAssWayne: I'm conservative, but here are some nutjob liberals in my family who are life-long social workers. Their opinions on this sort of matter are just jaw-dropping. They pretty much advocate court ordered sterilization for anyone who has  a) demonstrated failed parenting, b) lack of means to care for additional children, c) various other reasons (criminal record, drug use, generational welfare, etc) These self-identified hard core liberals turn into hard core fascists after dealing with reality for a few decades. I'll also say, they are good people trying to help others, but damn, are they harsh once they get a few in them.


Like all battlefields, the action changes whatever preconcieved notions you once had.

2nd support order, off they come.
 
2014-05-15 08:45:53 AM  
This is why we need to invent some implantable male birth control that lasts at least 3 months.
 
2014-05-15 08:49:21 AM  

Stoj: "Do not accept penis from:

Jake Gardner
Cal Johnston
Malik Abyojone
Russ Baxter
Asim Taylor "


Update your Bad Dick list, ladies.


Shouldn't Andy Dick be on that list?
 
2014-05-15 08:51:42 AM  

Cold_Sassy: My brother says that people like this should be offered $5,000.00 to undergo a free vasectomy.  He thinks that most of this sort would jump on it and it'd be a lot cheaper for the taxpayers in the long run.


...make it 10 grand and the surgery is free, and you'd have men lined up down the street.
 
2014-05-15 08:52:47 AM  

MrBallou: pgh9fan: Interesting. I wonder how the "Christian Conservatives" will take this. If he does get a woman pregnant would the court force an abortion on her?

Nah. They'd just put him in jail and leave the mother and child to fend for themselves. In a bootstrappy manner.


How many uncared for children have you taken in that gives you leave to have such a flippant attitude about this subject?  Must be a lot.
 
2014-05-15 08:54:55 AM  
If you owe $100,000 for child support, it sounds like someone is getting alimony cloaked as child support.
 
2014-05-15 08:56:12 AM  

Fafai: I alone am best: PhiloeBedoe: How about we also hold some of these deadbeat women who are allowing themselves to be knocked up by this loser responsible for their actions.  They are having babies they can't provide for...

I dont understand why he has to pay for them at all. The woman had the choice not to have them.

"It's biology."

/court-ordered biology


Worst of all it's based on a 19th, or early 20th century, view of biology and female rights.

When child support came into being it was because the poor, feckless, helpless wimmin folk were basically chattel. They could never be expected to obtain an education or gainful employment to raise children. Prior to this, children had gone to the person with resources (usually the man) but at this point (with factory jobs becoming more common) women were staying home while the men wen to the factories. Rather than expect the man to pay for child care (day care didn't exist in the same sense, obviously) they (the patriarchy) declared mothers the natural parent and started giving them custody. Since those useless wimmins couldn't get real work, men were ordered to pay money for their care. Go back and look up Staunton in 1808 for the first of a series of decisions affirming this ideal.

Women were effectively hindered (to put it politely) in education and employment. The chances of them being able to effectively provide for their own children was remote. The same patriarchy that ruled them money, also ruled they stay at home, by fiat in both cases. Child support had nothing to do with the best interest of the child, it was in the best interest in the patriarchy to keep women at home and out of the workplace.

The effects linger to this day with women being awarded primary (or sole) custody even though the 'law' says otherwise.

Biology used to be a valid excuse. The 'safest' (not that it's 100% safe, just safer) way for a women to get a fetus out of her body was birth. Abortifacents were hit or miss, and quite often dangerous. Abortions themselves were equally dangerous, especially in a society that still didn't understand infections properly. Nowadays? Abortion is safe and legal. Birth control is cheap, effective, and unobtrusive to the experience (especially for women) in the 21st century. Anyone using the biology argument is grasping at straws because there is nothing making a women in the first world, from menarche to menopause, carry a baby against her will. Pregnancy is a choice for women, in a first world country, nothing less.
 
2014-05-15 08:57:26 AM  

pgh9fan: Interesting. I wonder how the "Christian Conservatives" will take this. If he does get a woman pregnant would the court force an abortion on her?


Interesting, I wonder how reproductive rights "liberals" will take this or do those right only apply to women wanting to get an abortion?

Could we apply the same forced contraception methods on welfare moms?
 
2014-05-15 08:59:08 AM  

Cold_Sassy: My brother says that people like this should be offered $5,000.00 to undergo a free vasectomy.  He thinks that most of this sort would jump on it and it'd be a lot cheaper for the taxpayers in the long run.


This is the Weeners with an actual solution. And I think it has some merit.
 
2014-05-15 09:00:25 AM  

BMFPitt: This is why we need to invent some implantable male birth control that lasts at least 3 months.


SmartRisug shows promise.
 
2014-05-15 09:01:18 AM  

hasty ambush: pgh9fan: Interesting. I wonder how the "Christian Conservatives" will take this. If he does get a woman pregnant would the court force an abortion on her?

Interesting, I wonder how reproductive rights "liberals" will take this or do those right only apply to women wanting to get an abortion?

Could we apply the same forced contraception methods on welfare moms?


Good for the goose, good for the gander. If mom isn't working / paying, I say it would be fair.
 
2014-05-15 09:02:59 AM  

Arcturus72: Cold_Sassy: My brother says that people like this should be offered $5,000.00 to undergo a free vasectomy.  He thinks that most of this sort would jump on it and it'd be a lot cheaper for the taxpayers in the long run.

In my last job, I was one of 2 white guys on the job while all the others were black or hispanic... Almost all of them who were married also had a girlfriend on the side... This subject came up more than once. Since I had my vasectomy since '98, I was talking to them about it... Almost without fail, all of them were convinced that "You get cut, your shiat don't work no more"... I told them they should say that around Mrs Arcturus for her answer on that one, but still, no takers...

I even told them, since several of them were on the hook for child support, "If you get it done, no more worries about child support with that girlfriend on the side"... Nope, no takers...

The place was very interesting to work at sometimes... One guy's girlfriend was driving out at the same time his wife was driving in, with both of them bringing him lunch... And yes, I'm glad I no longer work there...

Oh, and for a slightly better link, with photos:  http://chronicle.northcoastnow.com/2014/05/13/appeals-court%E2%80%88h e -cant-children-pays-child-support/


Interesting. $5k wouldn't interest them?
 
2014-05-15 09:05:14 AM  
So in typical Fark fashion, it's the whore's fauit and she should be sterilized. Got it.
 
2014-05-15 09:06:15 AM  

doglover: ..

doglover: Child support is silly as the bare necessities of food, shelter, education, and healthcare should be free to all children.



So people would be free to commit parenthood with no financial consequences as that would be imposed upon the tax payers . Presumably you are going to keep kids and parents together which would mean the parents naturally benefit form all this "free stuff" (somebody ends up paying for it just not them) given to the kids like a place to live.

So much like the current welfare and tax system we would provide incentives, subsides and tax breaks to people who have kids they cannot meet the responsibilities to care for to keep having kids..
 
2014-05-15 09:10:20 AM  

Nadie_AZ: Interesting. $5k wouldn't interest them?


Then? Not from the discussions we had... Their overriding argument, despite my repeated denials, was "their junk wouldn't work afterwards" and that took overriding priority to everything else, even knowing that some of these guys would kill themselves for the OT and still take home only about $100 due to how much child support some of them owed...

I wished I was making this up...

And as for now, if the $5k would interest them? No idea... After I left that job, I only stayed in contact with the guy who was my first boss with that job who also moved on to something else, but the place where I worked has been closed down, so it's anyone's guess...
 
2014-05-15 09:10:23 AM  

Nadie_AZ: Arcturus72: Cold_Sassy: My brother says that people like this should be offered $5,000.00 to undergo a free vasectomy.  He thinks that most of this sort would jump on it and it'd be a lot cheaper for the taxpayers in the long run.

In my last job, I was one of 2 white guys on the job while all the others were black or hispanic... Almost all of them who were married also had a girlfriend on the side... This subject came up more than once. Since I had my vasectomy since '98, I was talking to them about it... Almost without fail, all of them were convinced that "You get cut, your shiat don't work no more"... I told them they should say that around Mrs Arcturus for her answer on that one, but still, no takers...

I even told them, since several of them were on the hook for child support, "If you get it done, no more worries about child support with that girlfriend on the side"... Nope, no takers...

The place was very interesting to work at sometimes... One guy's girlfriend was driving out at the same time his wife was driving in, with both of them bringing him lunch... And yes, I'm glad I no longer work there...

Oh, and for a slightly better link, with photos:  http://chronicle.northcoastnow.com/2014/05/13/appeals-court%E2%80%88h e -cant-children-pays-child-support/

Interesting. $5k wouldn't interest them?


I'm sure it would, because most of them don't have $10.00 in their wallet and 5 grand would seem like an absolute fortune.  Nevermind that it really isn't; they'll figure it out when it's too late :)
 
2014-05-15 09:10:25 AM  

rolladuck: abhorrent1: Bring back forced sterilization

Just license procreation.  If you have a child without a license, it becomes a ward of the state.  Or tossed of the side of the mountain like the Spartans did.


Do you know Kung-Fu?
 
2014-05-15 09:11:25 AM  

hasty ambush: doglover: ..
doglover: Child support is silly as the bare necessities of food, shelter, education, and healthcare should be free to all children.


So people would be free to commit parenthood with no financial consequences as that would be imposed upon the tax payers . Presumably you are going to keep kids and parents together which would mean the parents naturally benefit form all this "free stuff" (somebody ends up paying for it just not them) given to the kids like a place to live.

So much like the current welfare and tax system we would provide incentives, subsides and tax breaks to people who have kids they cannot meet the responsibilities to care for to keep having kids..


I don't know if you read my post above, but the tax payers already foot the bill for all these children.
 
2014-05-15 09:12:35 AM  

Evil Mackerel: Stoj: "Do not accept penis from:

Jake Gardner
Cal Johnston
Malik Abyojone
Russ Baxter
Asim Taylor "


Update your Bad Dick list, ladies.

Shouldn't Andy Dick be on that list?


Lots of Dicks should be on that list.
 
2014-05-15 09:15:36 AM  

Ivandrago: hasty ambush: doglover: ..
doglover: Child support is silly as the bare necessities of food, shelter, education, and healthcare should be free to all children.


So people would be free to commit parenthood with no financial consequences as that would be imposed upon the tax payers . Presumably you are going to keep kids and parents together which would mean the parents naturally benefit form all this "free stuff" (somebody ends up paying for it just not them) given to the kids like a place to live.

So much like the current welfare and tax system we would provide incentives, subsides and tax breaks to people who have kids they cannot meet the responsibilities to care for to keep having kids..

I don't know if you read my post above, but the tax payers already foot the bill for all these children.


But yo u wnat it for ALL children
 
2014-05-15 09:19:35 AM  

GORDON: MrBallou: pgh9fan: Interesting. I wonder how the "Christian Conservatives" will take this. If he does get a woman pregnant would the court force an abortion on her?

Nah. They'd just put him in jail and leave the mother and child to fend for themselves. In a bootstrappy manner.

How many uncared for children have you taken in that gives you leave to have such a flippant attitude about this subject?  Must be a lot.


None personally, but I pay my taxes and vote for people who want to use part of it to help people in need, so I do my part and am willing to do more.

I think it's reasonable for me to express my disagreement with people who want to cut aid to the poor and restrict social programs that address issues like this (sex education, etc.). Nothing flippant about that.
 
2014-05-15 09:19:55 AM  

inglixthemad: hasty ambush: pgh9fan: Interesting. I wonder how the "Christian Conservatives" will take this. If he does get a woman pregnant would the court force an abortion on her?

Interesting, I wonder how reproductive rights "liberals" will take this or do those right only apply to women wanting to get an abortion?

Could we apply the same forced contraception methods on welfare moms?

Good for the goose, good for the gander. If mom isn't working / paying, I say it would be fair.


But then you would have a bunch of chicks and their pseudo male supporters out protesting about Senators getting up in their vagina and putting their laws on their bodies.

Chicks are real big on reproductive rights particularly when it comes to making others foot the bill/pay for the consequences of what they choose to do with their body.
 
2014-05-15 09:20:17 AM  

FirstNationalBastard: Cold_Sassy: My brother says that people like this should be offered $5,000.00 to undergo a free vasectomy.  He thinks that most of this sort would jump on it and it'd be a lot cheaper for the taxpayers in the long run.

...make it 10 grand and the surgery is free, and you'd have men lined up down the street.


Or Air Jordan's.
 
2014-05-15 09:23:11 AM  

hasty ambush: Ivandrago: hasty ambush: doglover: ..
doglover: Child support is silly as the bare necessities of food, shelter, education, and healthcare should be free to all children.


So people would be free to commit parenthood with no financial consequences as that would be imposed upon the tax payers . Presumably you are going to keep kids and parents together which would mean the parents naturally benefit form all this "free stuff" (somebody ends up paying for it just not them) given to the kids like a place to live.

So much like the current welfare and tax system we would provide incentives, subsides and tax breaks to people who have kids they cannot meet the responsibilities to care for to keep having kids..

I don't know if you read my post above, but the tax payers already foot the bill for all these children.

But yo u wnat it for ALL children


Education is already free for these children. Healthcare is already free for these children. The majority of them live in subsidized housing and are on some sort of food assistance program. Then when mom screws up somehow, either getting some sort of criminal charge, here we come to put the kids in foster care.
I don't know what the solution is, but I'm ass-deep in the problem every day.
 
2014-05-15 09:33:00 AM  

WhoopAssWayne: I'm conservative, but here are some nutjob liberals in my family who are life-long social workers. Their opinions on this sort of matter are just jaw-dropping. They pretty much advocate court ordered sterilization for anyone who has  a) demonstrated failed parenting, b) lack of means to care for additional children, c) various other reasons (criminal record, drug use, generational welfare, etc) These self-identified hard core liberals turn into hard core fascists after dealing with reality for a few decades. I'll also say, they are good people trying to help others, but damn, are they harsh once they get a few in them.


TRANSLATION: "We really want this to apply to the blacks, Margaret Sanger style."
 
2014-05-15 09:44:41 AM  

YixilTesiphon: Is Buck vs Bell still precedent?

/if you're a fan of Oliver Wendell Holmes, look that up


"Three generations of idiots is enough"?  Remembered from constitutional law class 50 years ago.
 
2014-05-15 09:47:25 AM  

hammer85: MrBallou: TuteTibiImperes: MrBallou: pgh9fan: Interesting. I wonder how the "Christian Conservatives" will take this. If he does get a woman pregnant would the court force an abortion on her?

Nah. They'd just put him in jail and leave the mother and child to fend for themselves. In a bootstrappy manner.

Well, it's not like he's doing much to support the kids he already has, so it likely wouldn't change anything for his new baby-mama whether he was in or out of jail.

True. Best preventative would be to tattoo on his forehead, "Don't get knocked up by this deadbeat."

Could you use that court order to convince a girl to do anal?

Sorry baby, gotta go in the back door, judges orders


"I don't support my FOUR children. I won't support yours, either".
 
2014-05-15 09:49:01 AM  

Cold_Sassy: My brother says that people like this should be offered $5,000.00 to undergo a free vasectomy.  He thinks that most of this sort would jump on it and it'd be a lot cheaper for the taxpayers in the long run.


Offer it to women also. $5000 is probably too much, but it's a good idea. The ethics of paying for anything like this even medical studies is really interesting. Offer too much and it's "How could a poor person turn that down? You're basically forcing them to do it." But if you offer a smaller amount you get "That's all they're worth to you? You're really taking advantage of these poor people."
 
2014-05-15 09:53:08 AM  

Evil Mackerel: Stoj: "Do not accept penis from:

Jake Gardner
Cal Johnston
Malik Abyojone
Russ Baxter
Asim Taylor "


Update your Bad Dick list, ladies.

Shouldn't Andy Dick be on that list?


If you need to be told to put Andy Dick on that list - having a list won't do you any good.
 
2014-05-15 10:03:58 AM  
I love watching the logic acrobatics in threads like these. "This idiot keeps knocking up women. Let's reprimand the women!"
 
2014-05-15 10:07:01 AM  

Cold_Sassy: My brother says that people like this should be offered $5,000.00 to undergo a free vasectomy.  He thinks that most of this sort would jump on it and it'd be a lot cheaper for the taxpayers in the long run.


Won't work.   There was a recent case here in NC, of people who had involuntary sterilization up through the 1970s.  Often it was at the request of parents.   But because this band of losers had been denied the opportunity to make carbon copies of themselves, they got all lawyer-ed up and sued the state.  Got a fair amount of money too, guaranteeing that such pre-emptive measures will never be taken again.

Of course, the probable costs to society that their illegitimate and likely criminal offspring would have inflicted on society, was not deducted from the payout.
 
2014-05-15 10:07:40 AM  
What if the woman is perfectly capable of supporting the child with her own income?
 
2014-05-15 10:08:49 AM  

lackadaisicalfreakshow: I love watching the logic acrobatics in threads like these. "This idiot keeps knocking up women. Let's reprimand the women!"


Because he's raping all the women?  Does a women have a say in family planning at all?  "It takes 2 to tango".  It's a 50/50 split here each side has to contribute something to the equation to make a baby.  egg + sperm = baby
 
2014-05-15 10:11:51 AM  

DrewCurtisJr: What if the woman is perfectly capable of supporting the child with her own income?


Considering the only jobs that fit that description for most of the women in this situation are typically illegal or called "exotic dancer", I don't think you want to go there...

*ducks and runs from thread*
 
2014-05-15 10:12:50 AM  

pgh9fan: Interesting. I wonder how the "Christian Conservatives" will take this. If he does get a woman pregnant would the court force an abortion on her?


A judge tried something similar here with a misbehaving woman.  She got pregnant anyway, nothing happened to her.

doglover: Child support is silly as the bare necessities of food, shelter, education, and healthcare should be free to all children.

It's time to move into a post currency economy. Basing everything on money ...


Money is simply the accounting for resources.  You are in effect saying we shouldn't pay attention to whether there actually is supply.
 
2014-05-15 10:18:22 AM  
Deadbeat woman having kids she can't support, with men that don't want them:  Her body her choice.

Deadbeat man knocking up women then skipping out:  Send him to prison!

No double standard here, nope.

If we're going to restrict the reproductive rights of people who can't afford them, let's be gender blind and apply that standard across the board.
 
2014-05-15 10:24:44 AM  

htomc: Cold_Sassy: My brother says that people like this should be offered $5,000.00 to undergo a free vasectomy.  He thinks that most of this sort would jump on it and it'd be a lot cheaper for the taxpayers in the long run.

Won't work.   There was a recent case here in NC, of people who had involuntary sterilization up through the 1970s.  Often it was at the request of parents.   But because this band of losers had been denied the opportunity to make carbon copies of themselves, they got all lawyer-ed up and sued the state.  Got a fair amount of money too, guaranteeing that such pre-emptive measures will never be taken again.

Of course, the probable costs to society that their illegitimate and likely criminal offspring would have inflicted on society, was not deducted from the payout.


This would be voluntary sterilization, the decision being made by the adult individuals themselves, not their parents.
 
2014-05-15 10:26:40 AM  

Pucca: So in typical Fark fashion, it's the whore's fauit and she should be sterilized. Got it.


Nah, it's good for the goose, good for the gander philosophy. She helped spawn a brat she can't support.

More than that, if they aren't working, they're expecting a man to support them along with the child. That would be proof they're idiots that should be restricted from further spawning.

I keep being told that child support exists 'because it takes two to make a baby.' Using that logic the women who can't support themselves, and provide for their children 50%, are deadbeat moms.

Equality is a biatch.
 
hej
2014-05-15 10:29:44 AM  

Pucca: So in typical Fark fashion, it's the whore's fauit and she should be sterilized. Got it.


The whore is a "he" in this case.
 
2014-05-15 10:31:28 AM  
The cauterizing that comes with a vasectomy smells like pork, do place a clinic adjacent to a Chinese take out, who'd be the wiser?
 
2014-05-15 10:32:02 AM  

Arcturus72: Then? Not from the discussions we had... Their overriding argument, despite my repeated denials, was "their junk wouldn't work afterwards" and that took overriding priority to everything else, even knowing that some of these guys would kill themselves for the OT and still take home only about $100 due to how much child support some of them owed...

I wished I was making this up...


So... part of the fun is leaving behind little souvenir likenesses of yourself, I take it.
If the women are collecting welfare in addition to child support, maybe they don't want a guy who shoots blanks?
If the guy's only conceivable life plans involve being dirt poor from one thing or another anyway, what's the difference to him?
At least unsupported kids don't give you lung cancer or liver failure.
Free money gets burned, every time.
Planning and saving don't exist.
Choose accordingly.
 
2014-05-15 10:35:35 AM  

PhiloeBedoe: How about we also hold some of these deadbeat women who are allowing themselves to be knocked up by this loser responsible for their actions.  They are having babies they can't provide for...


Because women are always the victims of men. Certainly not responsible for their own actions. Yet strangly expecting of others to pay for their mistakes.
 
2014-05-15 10:36:00 AM  

theflatline: [i635.photobucket.com image 600x402]


I was thinking the question might be; where am I gonna get money for the Jimmie helmets?
 
2014-05-15 10:44:35 AM  

hasty ambush: inglixthemad: hasty ambush: pgh9fan: Interesting. I wonder how the "Christian Conservatives" will take this. If he does get a woman pregnant would the court force an abortion on her?

Interesting, I wonder how reproductive rights "liberals" will take this or do those right only apply to women wanting to get an abortion?

Could we apply the same forced contraception methods on welfare moms?

Good for the goose, good for the gander. If mom isn't working / paying, I say it would be fair.

But then you would have a bunch of chicks and their pseudo male supporters out protesting about Senators getting up in their vagina and putting their laws on their bodies.

Chicks are real big on reproductive rights particularly when it comes to making others foot the bill/pay for the consequences of what they choose to do with their body.


Yes, but there must be limits in reality. I wouldn't want them sterilized, just given a choice of reversible (but not taken daily) birth control. A good example would be an IUD (hormonal or non-hormonal) because then they can still have fun (which would irritate the fundies, but fark them) but not spawn anymore kids. Heck, I'd like to use this as a push to get SmartRisug (or similar reversible birth control) fast tracked for men. Then you aren't making guys choose between sterilization or jail time either.

I don't want to make it irreversible, because the whole situation may just be temporary. Guy loses his job because the multinational moved the plant overseas, can't get a 'modification' (reduction in support due to changed circumstances), and he's instantly a deadbeat if he can't find a job that pays the same (or close). That would invariably hit the working poor the hardest, because they have less education to use to get a new job that pays the same.

I'd also like to see 'imputed income' tossed out the window if the person hasn't held job they want to use in the calculation for more than 5 years. While we're at it, it would be nice to see 50/50 custody default in all non-abusive cases. I keep seeing billboards about being a dad, but the courts apparently think that dad = wallet and nothing else.
 
2014-05-15 10:52:29 AM  

PhiloeBedoe: How about we also hold some of these deadbeat women who are allowing themselves to be knocked up by this loser responsible for their actions.  They are having babies they can't provide for...


Good point. My loser sister had 4 kids, all different dads. And was a welfare peice of trash her whole life.
 
2014-05-15 10:55:46 AM  
Is this a case where he has been sentenced to time in the clink, and is offered probation-without-reproduction as an alternative?  If so, that sounds almost kosher.  In that case his rights are not being infringed, because he should be in prison, and he can always go back there if he doesn't like the terms of his probation.  However, if the sentence was probation in the first place, I don't know how you can stick on a "lifestyle" requirement like this--what would be the punishment for disobeying the order?
 
2014-05-15 10:55:54 AM  

PhiloeBedoe: How about we also hold some of these deadbeat women who are allowing themselves to be knocked up by this loser responsible for their actions.  They are having babies they can't provide for...


How about we fund initiatives to give our free BC, abortions, and serialization surgeries on anyone who wants them. A lot of people in poverty do not have any access to free/reduced BC services offered by places like Planned Parenthood.
 
2014-05-15 10:57:23 AM  

spiderpaz: Deadbeat woman having kids she can't support, with men that don't want them:  Her body her choice.

Deadbeat man knocking up women then skipping out:  Send him to prison!

No double standard here, nope.

If we're going to restrict the reproductive rights of people who can't afford them, let's be gender blind and apply that standard across the board.


i.imgur.com
 
2014-05-15 10:59:56 AM  
For a court to have to order this lowlife deadbeat not to have any more kids is just sad. Not sure how the guy in question feels about it but I surely hope having more kids wasnt on his to do list to begin with. The fact that he's paying child support, or supposed to be anyway, for his existing kids just shows he's not in the picture to raise them anyway so apparently he doesn't want them in the first place. Here's an easy way to get through these typed of issues: poor? Dont have kids. Not until you become not poor. Simple. Rather than wasting your early years raising kids you could be getting educated, trained, experienced, and ultimately become successful in a field that will pay you very well. Then maybe have kids. That's what smart people do.
 
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