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(Guardian)   In order to end the web's dependence on proprietary plug-ins like Adobe Flash, Mozilla announces that Firefox will implement the new W3C DRM standard by including a proprietary Content Decryption Module... from Adobe   (theguardian.com) divider line 20
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2014-05-15 07:25:26 AM
People still use Flash?  Why on earth?
 
2014-05-15 08:36:04 AM
People still use Firefox?
 
2014-05-15 08:39:22 AM

Man On A Mission: People still use Flash?  Why on earth?


There are still sites that require it?
 
2014-05-15 08:56:15 AM
It would be nice if Flash were to go away. But who can trust Google Chrome or Internet Explorer? Neither one gives you as much control over your web presence as Firefox.
 
2014-05-15 09:02:28 AM

Man On A Mission: People still use Flash?  Why on earth?


It comes in handy for porn.
 
2014-05-15 09:16:09 AM
Blame DRM, not Mozilla.
 
2014-05-15 09:22:35 AM
Isn't youtube run on flash?

God knows when I have a new computer, youtube won't work unless I install a new flash player.
 
2014-05-15 09:27:55 AM

van1ty: Isn't youtube run on flash?

God knows when I have a new computer, youtube won't work unless I install a new flash player.


You can use HTML5 instead. You can check here https://www.youtube.com/html5 if you like.
 
2014-05-15 09:29:30 AM
The DRM on this browser is broke, as far as Amazon is concerned. Uninstalled, cleaned, all that.  One you get to any protected content, it stops. You can watch the logos for the companies involved, then DRM kicks in, usually around 25 seconds, then BLAM!

I don't use Silverlight cuz Silverlight makes me unplug my VGA before it'll let me pipe Amazon to TV via HDMI.
 
2014-05-15 09:35:54 AM

23FPB23: The DRM on this browser is broke, as far as Amazon is concerned. Uninstalled, cleaned, all that.  One you get to any protected content, it stops. You can watch the logos for the companies involved, then DRM kicks in, usually around 25 seconds, then BLAM!

I don't use Silverlight cuz Silverlight makes me unplug my VGA before it'll let me pipe Amazon to TV via HDMI.


Silverlight obviously has a full and secure implementation of HDCP.
 
2014-05-15 09:47:17 AM
Every time I think Fiirefox can't suck any harder, they surprise me yet again.
 
2014-05-15 10:09:07 AM
Look, you little fark. If you don't like what Mozilla are doing then get an army of Richard Stallman types together and fork Firefox to have a non-DRM version. And you can sit around watching people's DRM-free Minecraft videos while I watch Pacific Rim.

DRM is out there. It's in Flash and Silverlight that people already use as plugins. This just makes it more native to the browser. Publishers that hate DRM can choose to not switch it on. Publishers that want it, can.
 
2014-05-15 10:23:36 AM
The difference with every implementation that Firefox does and every one that Chrome or IE does is that an Add-on will come out after allowing you to go back to the way it was before the change and Firefox devs wont block it.
 
2014-05-15 10:25:09 AM
The offensive move made here is that the DRM module they are using is closed source.
 
2014-05-15 10:35:07 AM

farkeruk: Look, you little fark. If you don't like what Mozilla are doing then get an army of Richard Stallman types together and fork Firefox to have a non-DRM version. And you can sit around watching people's DRM-free Minecraft videos while I watch Pacific Rim.

DRM is out there. It's in Flash and Silverlight that people already use as plugins. This just makes it more native to the browser. Publishers that hate DRM can choose to not switch it on. Publishers that want it, can.
GIVE ME MY BREAD AND BRING BACK THE CIRCUS!

I'll remember that when you're bemoaning the fact that the DRM you had no control over and nobody was legally allowed to inspect screws you over in a year or two. Hopefully Pacific Rim was good enough to make up for all the inevitable security and privacy problems the unaccountable software it required introduces.
 
2014-05-15 11:47:47 AM

skozlaw: I'll remember that when you're bemoaning the fact that the DRM you had no control over and nobody was legally allowed to inspect screws you over in a year or two. Hopefully Pacific Rim was good enough to make up for all the inevitable security and privacy problems the unaccountable software it required introduces.


Considering I've been running Flash and Silverlight for years and it hasn't screwed me up yet, I doubt I will be.

And it's not about "give me bread and circuses". You want to live in Richard Stallman's Pure World of Free Software, be my guest. Enjoy your HURD distro and building everything yourself (after you've checked every line of code). I have a PC to do things with and it's full of proprietary software and I have to trust the manufacturers who stake their name on their software. Works pretty nice.
 
2014-05-15 12:32:20 PM

farkeruk: Considering I've been running Flash ... for years ... and I have to trust the manufacturers who stake their name on their software.


lulz
 
2014-05-15 02:32:31 PM

farkeruk: I have a PC to do things with and it's full of proprietary software and I have to trust the manufacturers who stake their name on their software. Works pretty nice.


Sure. Everyone is entitled to their own beliefs. That doesn't make them true, though.
 
2014-05-15 05:00:26 PM
Isn't it required for someone to mention Pale Moon by now?  http://www.palemoon.org/
 
2014-05-15 05:22:19 PM

thetrenchcoat: Isn't it required for someone to mention Pale Moon by now?  http://www.palemoon.org/


From that site "Familiar, efficient, customizable user interface design (no Australis!)"

There's an Addon for that: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/classicthemerestorer/ I use it, follow the directions for installation including deleting the profile file they mention.
 
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