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2014-05-14 12:51:03 PM
Really?

cdn03.cdn.justjared.com

Is everyone sure about that?
 
2014-05-14 03:33:09 PM
Dicks. I thought it was dicks

/nttawwt
 
2014-05-14 03:39:33 PM
Good.  I hope he does very well with his career....except if/when the Rams play the Dolphins.  Then, I hope he has a bad day.
 
2014-05-14 03:40:00 PM
Wait, what?!? Michael and Sam are gay?

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2014-05-14 03:40:48 PM

Dr Jack Badofsky: Good.  I hope he does very well with his career....except if/when the Rams play the Dolphins.  Then, I hope he has a bad day.


Oh, and it wouldn't bother me in the least if he stepped up his game against the Bills, Patriots and Jets, too.
 
2014-05-14 03:44:10 PM

UNC_Samurai: Wait, what?!? Michael and Sam are gay?

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No that would be Frodo and Sam
 
2014-05-14 03:45:24 PM
Why is everyone convinced he wont be a good pro?
 
2014-05-14 03:50:50 PM
hey, if the guy is focused on getting dudes to play footsie with his balls -- well whatever makes him happy
 
2014-05-14 03:52:03 PM

Gunny Highway: Why is everyone convinced he wont be a good pro?


For the same reasons Tebow sucked.  Because he sucks at that level.
 
2014-05-14 03:53:31 PM

Gunny Highway: Why is everyone convinced he wont be a good pro?


Too small for a DE too slow for an LB according to his pro day numbers
 
2014-05-14 03:54:35 PM

Gunny Highway: Why is everyone convinced he wont be a good pro?


Because 7th round picks rarely are
 
2014-05-14 03:56:37 PM

Gunny Highway: Why is everyone convinced he wont be a good pro?


dunno.  i think he will be.

/i also think that most of the sports threads on fark have sucked for the last month.
 
2014-05-14 04:00:14 PM

stir22: Gunny Highway: Why is everyone convinced he wont be a good pro?

dunno.  i think he will be.

/i also think that most of the sports threads on fark have sucked for the last month.


Not as much as Sam's sucked lately.
*rimjob*

I mean *rimshot*

/low hanging fruit
 
2014-05-14 04:04:11 PM

Gunny Highway: Why is everyone convinced he wont be a good pro?


Most later round picks don't work out and he blew the combine
 
2014-05-14 04:06:05 PM

spiderpaz: Gunny Highway: Why is everyone convinced he wont be a good pro?

Most later round picks don't work out and he blew the combine


I could post a bunch of evidence to the contrary but I'm lazy......you're still wrong
 
2014-05-14 04:06:42 PM
drinks with fruit in them, exfoliates, working out, and a Auntie Mame marathon?
 
2014-05-14 04:07:56 PM

spiderpaz: Gunny Highway: Why is everyone convinced he wont be a good pro?

Most later round picks don't work out and he blew the combine


Porn is getting weird these days
 
2014-05-14 04:08:40 PM
LucklessWonder:
Too small for a DE too slow for an LB according to his pro day numbers

spiderpaz:  he blew the combine

Okay, that makes more sense.  Didn't this guy win the Defensive Player of the Year in the SEC?  I guess, I am just wondering how a guy who can win that award does not have the skills to succeed in the NFL.  I believe that he doesnt but it just seems odd is all.
 
2014-05-14 04:09:32 PM

ModernPrimitive01: spiderpaz: Gunny Highway: Why is everyone convinced he wont be a good pro?

Most later round picks don't work out and he blew the combine

I could post a bunch of evidence to the contrary but I'm lazy......you're still wrong


I wasn't being obvious enough:  Michael Sam would have been taken higher, but they went low on him after he blew it at the combine ;)
 
2014-05-14 04:11:22 PM

Smeggy Smurf: spiderpaz: Gunny Highway: Why is everyone convinced he wont be a good pro?

Most later round picks don't work out and he blew the combine

Porn is getting weird these days


Seems like blowing several locker rooms worth of young pro athletes would be a pretty normal script for gay porn.
 
2014-05-14 04:11:57 PM
there wil be some unintentional comedy when, if he makes the team, when he has to gear up in breast cancer pink next year.

and before i get bashed, im in full support of his decision, as i was with Jason Collins (NBA) or any person, period, who comes out.  i'm just saying, a gay man, in that hyper macho environment, in hot pink, that's just gonna be a little awkward for all.
 
2014-05-14 04:13:22 PM

spiderpaz: ModernPrimitive01: spiderpaz: Gunny Highway: Why is everyone convinced he wont be a good pro?

Most later round picks don't work out and he blew the combine

I could post a bunch of evidence to the contrary but I'm lazy......you're still wrong

I wasn't being obvious enough:  Michael Sam would have been taken higher, but they went low on him after he blew it at the combine ;)


The pro's have much better drugs than college. He'll bulk up and have a decent couple of years.
 
2014-05-14 04:15:45 PM

ModernPrimitive01: spiderpaz: Gunny Highway: Why is everyone convinced he wont be a good pro?

Most later round picks don't work out and he blew the combine

I could post a bunch of evidence to the contrary but I'm lazy......you're still wrong



According to pretty much EVERYBODY, including nfl.com, he was "average" at best at the combine, compared to all DE's and well below for LB's....Nice guy? Sure.  Good football player? Ok.  Can't miss NFL player? Not even farking close....

http://www.sportingnews.com/nfl/story/2014-02-24/michael-sam-nfl-comb i ne-results-40-time-slow-bench-press-vertical-broad-gay-status-nfl-draf t-stock-round-projection">http://www.sportingnews.com/nfl/story/201 4-02-24/michael-sam-nfl-combi ne-results-40-time-slow-bench-press-vertical-broad-gay-status-nfl-draf t-stock-round-projection

http://nfl.si.com/2014/02/24/michael-sam-40-time-2014-nfl-combine/"> http://nfl.si.com/2014/02/24/michael-sam-40-time-2014-nfl-combine/
 
2014-05-14 04:15:50 PM

Gunny Highway: LucklessWonder:
Too small for a DE too slow for an LB according to his pro day numbers

spiderpaz:  he blew the combine

Okay, that makes more sense.  Didn't this guy win the Defensive Player of the Year in the SEC?  I guess, I am just wondering how a guy who can win that award does not have the skills to succeed in the NFL.  I believe that he doesnt but it just seems odd is all.


The list of SEC defensive players of the year is an impressive list of first-rounders and highly accomplished NFL players, plus whatever Chad Lavalais is, so there's certainly hope for him. He could succeed. But players of Sam's physical profile aren't hard to find; he matches up closely with Texas's Jackson Jeffcoat, another highly accomplished college player, who went undrafted.
 
2014-05-14 04:17:22 PM

stir22: Gunny Highway: Why is everyone convinced he wont be a good pro?

dunno.  i think he will be.

/i also think that most of the sports threads on fark have sucked for the last month.


FTFY
 
2014-05-14 04:20:09 PM

chevydeuce: ModernPrimitive01: spiderpaz: Gunny Highway: Why is everyone convinced he wont be a good pro?

Most later round picks don't work out and he blew the combine

I could post a bunch of evidence to the contrary but I'm lazy......you're still wrong


According to pretty much EVERYBODY, including nfl.com, he was "average" at best at the combine, compared to all DE's and well below for LB's....Nice guy? Sure.  Good football player? Ok.  Can't miss NFL player? Not even farking close....

http://www.sportingnews.com/nfl/story/2014-02-24/michael-sam-nfl-comb i ne-results-40-time-slow-bench-press-vertical-broad-gay-status-nfl-draf t-stock-round-projection">http://www.sportingnews.com/nfl/story/201 4-02-24/michael-sam-nfl-combi ne-results-40-time-slow-bench-press-vertical-broad-gay-status-nfl-draf t-stock-round-projection

http://nfl.si.com/2014/02/24/michael-sam-40-time-2014-nfl-combine/"> http://nfl.si.com/2014/02/24/michael-sam-40-time-2014-nfl-combine/


I have no idea how he will be as a pro, if he even makes it, but you're putting way too much stock into the combine.
 
2014-05-14 04:22:06 PM

Gunny Highway: Why is everyone convinced he wont be a good pro?


He was also considered to be one-dimensional - good attacking pass plays, not so much on running plays.  And since the SEC is very pass-oriented, he could excel.
 
2014-05-14 04:24:09 PM

UNC_Samurai: Wait, what?!? Michael and Sam are gay?

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Yeah, but not with each other, that would be creepy.  Like the two dudes from the Indigo Girls, they said they never hooked up.
 
2014-05-14 04:24:12 PM

RonwellQuincyDobbs: chevydeuce: ModernPrimitive01: spiderpaz: Gunny Highway: Why is everyone convinced he wont be a good pro?

Most later round picks don't work out and he blew the combine

I could post a bunch of evidence to the contrary but I'm lazy......you're still wrong


According to pretty much EVERYBODY, including nfl.com, he was "average" at best at the combine, compared to all DE's and well below for LB's....Nice guy? Sure.  Good football player? Ok.  Can't miss NFL player? Not even farking close....

http://www.sportingnews.com/nfl/story/2014-02-24/michael-sam-nfl-comb i ne-results-40-time-slow-bench-press-vertical-broad-gay-status-nfl-draf t-stock-round-projection">http://www.sportingnews.com/nfl/story/201 4-02-24/michael-sam-nfl-combi ne-results-40-time-slow-bench-press-vertical-broad-gay-status-nfl-draf t-stock-round-projection

http://nfl.si.com/2014/02/24/michael-sam-40-time-2014-nfl-combine/"> http://nfl.si.com/2014/02/24/michael-sam-40-time-2014-nfl-combine/

I have no idea how he will be as a pro, if he even makes it, but you're putting way too much stock into the combine.


And the teams don't?
 
2014-05-14 04:28:14 PM
The real question is "Will there ever be a gay tight end?"
 
2014-05-14 04:35:08 PM

cptjeff: Smeggy Smurf: spiderpaz: Gunny Highway: Why is everyone convinced he wont be a good pro?

Most later round picks don't work out and he blew the combine

Porn is getting weird these days

Seems like blowing several locker rooms worth of young pro athletes would be a pretty normal script for gay porn.


blog.machinefinder.com

City slickers don't know what a combine is.
 
2014-05-14 04:38:31 PM

KJUW89: Gunny Highway: Why is everyone convinced he wont be a good pro?

He was also considered to be one-dimensional - good attacking pass plays, not so much on running plays.  And since the SEC is very pass-oriented, he could excel.


Isn't a strong pass rush considered something a team must have to be successful? Isn't the NFL a pass happy league?

/haven't followed the NFL closely in a while
//maybe I am a step behind
 
2014-05-14 04:40:05 PM
then why doesn't he shut the fark up and stop holding press conferences.
 
2014-05-14 04:43:12 PM

Crewmannumber6: then why doesn't he shut the fark up and stop holding press conferences.


AW.
 
2014-05-14 04:45:40 PM
I kind of want this guy to be average. If he's a bad player, the bigots will be thrilled to shout out prejudiced statements with even more regularity than they are now. If he's a great player, the bigots will spew forth further nonsensical invective about how he's only good because his gayness makes his opponents uncomfortable or that the refs let him get away with dirty plays to avoid being charged as bigots, or some other weird bullsh*t. If he's average, though, it makes it real easy to say things like "See, he's gay but he isn't any different than the other players. Sure, he's no Tom Brady seventh round draft pick surprise super player, but he isn't a Tim Tebow or Ryan Leaf massive first round stink-burger, either. The game hasn't changed because an openly gay guy is playing, so might as well stop stigmatizing gay athletes." (knowing full well all of those players are quarterbacks, which is not the position Sam was drafted to play, but you get my point).

Of course, another part of me really wants him to be the best player out there, just to shove it in the face of the homophobes how goddamned stupid their views are. Usually, anything that makes bigots uncomfortable is okay in my book, and that scenario would certainly be okay in my book because at the end of the day, football (any athletic competition, really) is pretty meaningless in the grander scheme of things... and small minds usually care a great deal over things that are pretty f*cking meaningless.
 
2014-05-14 04:53:33 PM
But what is Lebron's views on it?
 
2014-05-14 04:54:24 PM

Gunny Highway: Isn't a strong pass rush considered something a team must have to be successful? Isn't the NFL a pass happy league?


Sam's combination of size, strength and speed are below NFL pass-rushing standards for DE's or OLB's.  Maybe he'll find a niche somewhere, but he was considered no better than an average NFL prospect before his workouts, and his disappointing performance in those opened a lot of eyes.  He's not fast.  He's not strong.  He's not big.

And I do think there's another element to this that wouldn't be there without those physical issues.  If Jadaveon Clowney was gay, he'd still be a high draft pick because he's a game-changer.  I'm sure a lot of teams weighed Sam's upside against the media attention that comes with him and decided it's not worth taking a shot on a guy who isn't likely to make or break your franchise.
 
2014-05-14 04:57:34 PM

Yanks_RSJ: I'm sure a lot of teams weighed Sam's upside against the media attention that comes with him and decided it's not worth taking a shot on a guy who isn't likely to make or break your franchise.


I think most teams were afraid that Sam wouldn't eventually make the team so they would end up being the guys that cut the gay guy.
 
2014-05-14 04:57:55 PM

Yanks_RSJ: Gunny Highway: Isn't a strong pass rush considered something a team must have to be successful? Isn't the NFL a pass happy league?

Sam's combination of size, strength and speed are below NFL pass-rushing standards for DE's or OLB's.  Maybe he'll find a niche somewhere, but he was considered no better than an average NFL prospect before his workouts, and his disappointing performance in those opened a lot of eyes.  He's not fast.  He's not strong.  He's not big.

And I do think there's another element to this that wouldn't be there without those physical issues.  If Jadaveon Clowney was gay, he'd still be a high draft pick because he's a game-changer.  I'm sure a lot of teams weighed Sam's upside against the media attention that comes with him and decided it's not worth taking a shot on a guy who isn't likely to make or break your franchise.



Thanks. Makes sense.
 
2014-05-14 05:00:04 PM

Smeggy Smurf: cptjeff: Smeggy Smurf: spiderpaz: Gunny Highway: Why is everyone convinced he wont be a good pro?

Most later round picks don't work out and he blew the combine

Porn is getting weird these days

Seems like blowing several locker rooms worth of young pro athletes would be a pretty normal script for gay porn.

[blog.machinefinder.com image 850x441]

City slickers don't know what a combine is.


motherfarker!!!!  i grew up on one of these...

i.ushipcdn.com
 
2014-05-14 05:11:57 PM

Gunny Highway: KJUW89: Gunny Highway: Why is everyone convinced he wont be a good pro?

He was also considered to be one-dimensional - good attacking pass plays, not so much on running plays.  And since the SEC is very pass-oriented, he could excel.

Isn't a strong pass rush considered something a team must have to be successful? Isn't the NFL a pass happy league?

/haven't followed the NFL closely in a while
//maybe I am a step behind


In addition to what others have pointed out, his vertical jump was really substandard. Why do scouts care about how high a guy can jump? Because it's used as a measure for explosive legs -- the muscles that generate a good vertical leap are the same ones that generate an explosive first step off the snap. This is especially important for pass rushers. If you don't have that great first step and you only weigh 250-260 pounds or so, an NFL left tackle can swallow you up.
 
2014-05-14 05:22:25 PM

SirDigbyChickenCaesar: Yanks_RSJ: I'm sure a lot of teams weighed Sam's upside against the media attention that comes with him and decided it's not worth taking a shot on a guy who isn't likely to make or break your franchise.

I think most teams were afraid that Sam wouldn't eventually make the team so they would end up being the guys that cut the gay guy.


Yep.  I think there are a lot of people who aren't aware how frequently 7th round picks are cut during training camp.  Like all those people who bought Michael Sam's jersey already.
 
2014-05-14 05:35:09 PM

Super Chronic: Gunny Highway: KJUW89: Gunny Highway: Why is everyone convinced he wont be a good pro?

He was also considered to be one-dimensional - good attacking pass plays, not so much on running plays.  And since the SEC is very pass-oriented, he could excel.

Isn't a strong pass rush considered something a team must have to be successful? Isn't the NFL a pass happy league?

/haven't followed the NFL closely in a while
//maybe I am a step behind

In addition to what others have pointed out, his vertical jump was really substandard. Why do scouts care about how high a guy can jump? Because it's used as a measure for explosive legs -- the muscles that generate a good vertical leap are the same ones that generate an explosive first step off the snap. This is especially important for pass rushers. If you don't have that great first step and you only weigh 250-260 pounds or so, an NFL left tackle can swallow you up.


So much THIS...at the combine, he had something like 4 false starts on his 40 yd dash attempts....most reports said it looked like he was trying to look more explosive than he really is, but it just came off as clumsy looking.
 
2014-05-14 05:44:30 PM

chevydeuce: Super Chronic: Gunny Highway: KJUW89: Gunny Highway: Why is everyone convinced he wont be a good pro?

He was also considered to be one-dimensional - good attacking pass plays, not so much on running plays.  And since the SEC is very pass-oriented, he could excel.

Isn't a strong pass rush considered something a team must have to be successful? Isn't the NFL a pass happy league?

/haven't followed the NFL closely in a while
//maybe I am a step behind

In addition to what others have pointed out, his vertical jump was really substandard. Why do scouts care about how high a guy can jump? Because it's used as a measure for explosive legs -- the muscles that generate a good vertical leap are the same ones that generate an explosive first step off the snap. This is especially important for pass rushers. If you don't have that great first step and you only weigh 250-260 pounds or so, an NFL left tackle can swallow you up.

So much THIS...at the combine, he had something like 4 false starts on his 40 yd dash attempts....most reports said it looked like he was trying to look more explosive than he really is, but it just came off as clumsy looking.


I hope the guy succeeds.  I love when the experts get it wrong but if all of this is true he may have a rough time.
 
2014-05-14 05:49:26 PM
You know what we need? Another Michael Sam thread. Oh... Never mind.
 
2014-05-14 05:49:58 PM

crotchgrabber: You know what we need? Another Michael Sam thread. Oh... Never mind.


I want to hear about the Browns.
 
2014-05-14 05:52:45 PM

Gunny Highway: chevydeuce: Super Chronic: Gunny Highway: KJUW89: Gunny Highway: Why is everyone convinced he wont be a good pro?

He was also considered to be one-dimensional - good attacking pass plays, not so much on running plays.  And since the SEC is very pass-oriented, he could excel.

Isn't a strong pass rush considered something a team must have to be successful? Isn't the NFL a pass happy league?

/haven't followed the NFL closely in a while
//maybe I am a step behind

In addition to what others have pointed out, his vertical jump was really substandard. Why do scouts care about how high a guy can jump? Because it's used as a measure for explosive legs -- the muscles that generate a good vertical leap are the same ones that generate an explosive first step off the snap. This is especially important for pass rushers. If you don't have that great first step and you only weigh 250-260 pounds or so, an NFL left tackle can swallow you up.

So much THIS...at the combine, he had something like 4 false starts on his 40 yd dash attempts....most reports said it looked like he was trying to look more explosive than he really is, but it just came off as clumsy looking.

I hope the guy succeeds.  I love when the experts get it wrong but if all of this is true he may have a rough time.


Oh, don't get me wrong, if he makes the team, it would give me no heartburn at all.  Best of luck to him (and any other draftee for that matter).  But whether he makes it or not should be based on his skills and abilities.  Unfortunately, by most measures, those skills and abilities are significantly less than many others in the draft possessed, but with the political climate these days, if/when he gets cut, the narrative will be some version of "they cut him because he's gay"....
 
2014-05-14 05:55:05 PM
Came here to make immature jokes about ghey sex. See you guys have it covered.

Also, he was drafted by the Rams. Huh huh huh huh, rams.

Jokes aside, I wish him success. Prove the bigots wrong.
 
2014-05-14 06:07:11 PM

stir22: Smeggy Smurf: cptjeff: Smeggy Smurf: spiderpaz: Gunny Highway: Why is everyone convinced he wont be a good pro?

Most later round picks don't work out and he blew the combine

Porn is getting weird these days

Seems like blowing several locker rooms worth of young pro athletes would be a pretty normal script for gay porn.

[blog.machinefinder.com image 850x441]

City slickers don't know what a combine is.

motherfarker!!!!  i grew up on one of these...

[i.ushipcdn.com image 270x203]


Thanks for the Wurzels earworm, arseholes.
 
2014-05-14 06:49:58 PM

Gunny Highway: LucklessWonder:
Too small for a DE too slow for an LB according to his pro day numbers

spiderpaz:  he blew the combine

Okay, that makes more sense.  Didn't this guy win the Defensive Player of the Year in the SEC?  I guess, I am just wondering how a guy who can win that award does not have the skills to succeed in the NFL.  I believe that he doesnt but it just seems odd is all.


Jackson Jeffcoat was co-Big 12 DPOY this year.  All-American defensive end this year, with Sam.  Pretty similar right?

He went undrafted.
 
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