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(Boston.com)   FBI agent who shot and killed the dude in Florida with connections to the alleged Boston Marathon Bombers? Yeah, he has a "troubled history." Really? A Boston FBI agent has a troubled history? This is my shocked face :-|   (boston.com) divider line 79
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2014-05-14 11:05:08 AM  
Oh, that's okay. We'll team him up with a young rookie with an earnestness that will crack his tough shell, over drinks after getting suspended by the chief and possibly with a musical montage, exposing his heart of gold. That young rookie will probably get shot, but his dying words will spur this FBI agent onto glory, and he'll finally take down Mendoza with the help of a ten year old boy and his dog, and a well-meaning hooker of questionable gender.
 
2014-05-14 11:30:30 AM  
The Globe discovered his name by removing "improperly created redactions" on the electronic version of a Florida report about the shooting.

Why is this not something the FBI has figured out how to do yet?  What did they do, change both the text and background color to black without replacing the actual characters?

/ And why did the Globe tip their hand with this particular story?  Surely they could have kept that vulnerability in their pocket until something more juicy came along.
 
2014-05-14 11:59:08 AM  
So -
Questionable behavior - misconduct
Retires with 52k for life after 4 years
Hired by FBI to kill again
WTF?
 
2014-05-14 12:56:27 PM  

JoieD'Zen: So -
Questionable behavior - misconduct
Retires with 52k for life after 4 years
Hired by FBI to kill again
WTF?


It is the new Marky Mark movie.
With Ben Afflack.
 
2014-05-14 12:57:10 PM  

Theaetetus: Oh, that's okay. We'll team him up with a young rookie with an earnestness that will crack his tough shell, over drinks after getting suspended by the chief and possibly with a musical montage, exposing his heart of gold. That young rookie will probably get shot, but his dying words will spur this FBI agent onto glory, and he'll finally take down Mendoza with the help of a ten year old boy and his dog, and a well-meaning hooker of questionable gender.


Are you a Hollywood screenwriter?
 
2014-05-14 12:57:16 PM  
Ben Afleck to begin filming when?
 
2014-05-14 12:58:07 PM  
This has got to be one of the fishiest FBI shootings.  Nothing seems to make sense.
 
2014-05-14 12:58:12 PM  
 
2014-05-14 12:58:25 PM  

serial_crusher: The Globe discovered his name by removing "improperly created redactions" on the electronic version of a Florida report about the shooting.

Why is this not something the FBI has figured out how to do yet?  What did they do, change both the text and background color to black without replacing the actual characters?

/ And why did the Globe tip their hand with this particular story?  Surely they could have kept that vulnerability in their pocket until something more juicy came along.


DOJ and DHS Don't Use FOIA Express yet because the software, despite being used by dozens of federal agencies, hasn't gotten their security approval yet.  So they "redact documents by making them into PDFs and using the Redact tool.  Which works marvelously, but unless you click the
finalize all redactions" button, those redacted sections go clear when you mouse over them.  Which is enormously helpful when reviewing the redactions internally but not so good when you ship them out the door.

Can you tell I used to do FOIA for a living?
 
2014-05-14 12:58:58 PM  
24.media.tumblr.com
 
2014-05-14 12:59:26 PM  
Some interesting background on the whole case -  http://www.thisamericanlife.org/play_full.php?play=519
 
2014-05-14 12:59:32 PM  
I need another paragraph on this article. Oh hey, a mildly interesting but irrelevant fact about someone tangentially related to the subject of the article!

In 2009, the Taunton Gazette reported Cinelli had a brush with a life-threatening flesh-eating disease. he missed almost four months of work while recovering from the infection
 
2014-05-14 12:59:45 PM  
I still have not figured out how an officer shoots someone who is in custody and is cleared of charges.
 
2014-05-14 01:00:17 PM  

Magorn: serial_crusher: The Globe discovered his name by removing "improperly created redactions" on the electronic version of a Florida report about the shooting.

Why is this not something the FBI has figured out how to do yet?  What did they do, change both the text and background color to black without replacing the actual characters?

/ And why did the Globe tip their hand with this particular story?  Surely they could have kept that vulnerability in their pocket until something more juicy came along.

DOJ and DHS Don't Use FOIA Express yet because the software, despite being used by dozens of federal agencies, hasn't gotten their security approval yet.  So they "redact documents by making them into PDFs and using the Redact tool.  Which works marvelously, but unless you click the
finalize all redactions" button, those redacted sections go clear when you mouse over them.  Which is enormously helpful when reviewing the redactions internally but not so good when you ship them out the door.

Can you tell I used to do FOIA for a living?


I'm no expert but it does seem that an agency like the one that employed him might have the ability to gather background info.
 
2014-05-14 01:00:27 PM  

Bawdy George: The This American Life episode about the shooting


Came in here to post this.  Amazing & disturbing piece.
 
2014-05-14 01:03:45 PM  

Theaetetus: Oh, that's okay. We'll team him up with a young rookie with an earnestness that will crack his tough shell, over drinks after getting suspended by the chief and possibly with a musical montage, exposing his heart of gold. That young rookie will probably get shot, but his dying words will spur this FBI agent onto glory, and he'll finally take down Mendoza with the help of a ten year old boy and his dog, and a well-meaning hooker of questionable gender.

Only if the rookie shows him a picture of a pregnant wife and/or young child.  Otherwise it's the old guy who gets shot shortly after re-discovering his humanity and dies after an extended monologue about avoid the mistakes he made.  The rookie's countenance changes from wild-eyed horror to hardened determination, he pledges revenge and finally take down Mendoza -- but only after his family is kidnapped and threatened with reprisal.
 
2014-05-14 01:03:54 PM  
 
2014-05-14 01:04:21 PM  

SphericalTime: This has got to be one of the fishiest FBI shootings.  Nothing seems to make sense.


Oh c'mon. After five hours of questioning, Todashev decided to attack an armed agent with a mop. What doesn't make sense to you?
 
2014-05-14 01:05:02 PM  

Bawdy George: The This American Life episode about the shooting


Beat me to it.
 
2014-05-14 01:05:29 PM  
monoski: "I still have not figured out how an officer shoots someone who is in custody and is cleared of charges."

That's easy: The FBI is *never* at fault.
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/06/19/us/in-150-shootings-the-fbi-deemed- a gents-faultless.html?_r=0

/ TL;DR: 150 incidents of the FBI shooting people from 1993 to early 2011: internal review found every single one justified and every single agent faultless.
 
2014-05-14 01:06:39 PM  

ringersol: monoski: "I still have not figured out how an officer shoots someone who is in custody and is cleared of charges."

That's easy: The FBI is *never* at fault.
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/06/19/us/in-150-shootings-the-fbi-deemed- a gents-faultless.html?_r=0

/ TL;DR: 150 incidents of the FBI shooting people from 1993 to early 2011: internal review found every single one justified and every single agent faultless.



They must use the FISA courts for review.
 
2014-05-14 01:06:44 PM  
Did anyone mention the "This American Life" episode on this yet?
 
2014-05-14 01:08:18 PM  

SphericalTime: This has got to be one of the fishiest FBI shootings.  Nothing seems to make sense.


Doesn't seem that weird to me. The dead guy was a self-confessed violent criminal. The FBI agent in the room turns out to be a hothead with a history of violence and witness coercion. I'd be surprised if those two guys DIDN'T end up in a fight that left one of them dead.

Also not surprised that Tamerlan Tsarnaev was involved in ripping off and murdering drug dealers. His boxing career had tanked, and he didn't have much else going for him. That's the kind of crime that a jihadist could easily rationalize; he's just protecting the children from the white man's poison.
 
2014-05-14 01:11:33 PM  

monoski: I still have not figured out how an officer shoots someone who is in custody and is cleared of charges.


Just point the gun and pull the trigger. Then have a good laugh about it, knowing that you'll get away with it.
 
2014-05-14 01:13:09 PM  
I always find it amusing that people take something simple like this and spin it into some crazy conspiracy. Yeah, there was a cover up. An FBI agent who should never have been hired shot a guy he shouldn't have shot. So they covered that up. That's how they do. End of conspiracy. The Tsarnaev link is just a coincidence, and not that surprising; how many half-a-gangster Kazakhs can there be in Boston?
 
2014-05-14 01:14:05 PM  

mayIFark: Did anyone mention the "This American Life" episode on this yet?


Nope. You had better go ahead and do that.
 
2014-05-14 01:15:40 PM  

DrPainMD: monoski: I still have not figured out how an officer shoots someone who is in custody and is cleared of charges.

Just point the gun and pull the trigger. Then have a good laugh about it, knowing that you'll get away with it.


If you fight a cop, and he doesn't immediately beat the shiat out of you, he'll shoot you. That's pretty much their go-to move, and it's completely legal and part of standard cop training. They're not there to fight fair. Lesson: don't fight cops. If they start it, take your lumps and sue them later.
 
2014-05-14 01:17:05 PM  

LazyMedia: SphericalTime: This has got to be one of the fishiest FBI shootings.  Nothing seems to make sense.

Doesn't seem that weird to me. The dead guy was a self-confessed violent criminal. The FBI agent in the room turns out to be a hothead with a history of violence and witness coercion. I'd be surprised if those two guys DIDN'T end up in a fight that left one of them dead.

Also not surprised that Tamerlan Tsarnaev was involved in ripping off and murdering drug dealers. His boxing career had tanked, and he didn't have much else going for him. That's the kind of crime that a jihadist could easily rationalize; he's just protecting the children from the white man's poison.


Yeah, thats pretty lazy.  Your screen name is spot on.
 
2014-05-14 01:17:34 PM  

LazyMedia: I always find it amusing that people take something simple like this and spin it into some crazy conspiracy. Yeah, there was a cover up. An FBI agent who should never have been hired shot a guy he shouldn't have shot. So they covered that up. That's how they do. End of conspiracy. The Tsarnaev link is just a coincidence, and not that surprising; how many half-a-gangster Kazakhs can there be in Boston?



Um, what conspiracy?  You're projecting a bit in this thread.  Need coffee?.
 
2014-05-14 01:20:22 PM  
Even a busted clock is right twice a day

screw that little bastardo, good on the Dbag fbi
I hope it hurt..a lot
 
2014-05-14 01:21:00 PM  

BafflerMeal: Um, what conspiracy?  You're projecting a bit in this thread.  Need coffee?.


The one where the FBI killed some guy and covered it up?? Having problems keeping up?
 
2014-05-14 01:25:21 PM  
Meh......
Good cop Bad cop - Bad cop.
SSDD.
 
2014-05-14 01:25:21 PM  
There was some show, Life in These US of A's, or something that had some info on this. I'll see if i can find the link.
 
2014-05-14 01:27:00 PM  

HotWingConspiracy: SphericalTime: This has got to be one of the fishiest FBI shootings.  Nothing seems to make sense.

Oh c'mon. After five hours of questioning, Todashev decided to attack an armed agent with a mop.


Sounds like a poor attempt to ... *puts on sunglasses*... clean up his act.
 
2014-05-14 01:28:00 PM  

strathmeyer: BafflerMeal: Um, what conspiracy?  You're projecting a bit in this thread.  Need coffee?.

The one where the FBI killed some guy and covered it up?? Having problems keeping up?


Right, where a guy attacked an armed agent with a mop, when two additional police were present. It sounds 100% legit.
 
2014-05-14 01:29:06 PM  
F*cking Southies, man.

Anyways, someone call up Mark Wahlberg to deal with this sh*t. That worked out well the last time.
 
2014-05-14 01:29:59 PM  
The FBI needs psychopaths too. How else you gonna keep secrets?
 
2014-05-14 01:34:23 PM  

HotWingConspiracy: strathmeyer: BafflerMeal: Um, what conspiracy?  You're projecting a bit in this thread.  Need coffee?.

The one where the FBI killed some guy and covered it up?? Having problems keeping up?

Right, where a guy attacked an armed agent with a mop, when two additional police were present. It sounds 100% legit.


My point was in regards to the allusion to a 'larger' conspiracy that was being refuted by the LazyMedia.  Which no one has advocated in this thread.  Not sure what was being argued against.  Almost everyone agrees this shooting and situation in and of itself is skeevy.
 
2014-05-14 01:37:06 PM  
Absolutely no information on either lawsuit and this is what everything hinges on:

"In March, officers Aaron McFarlane and Jennifer Farrell vouched separately for Mabanag's character and said he taught them to write accurate reports. But in his cross-examinations, Hollister presented each officer with reports that included information that appeared to contradict their earlier testimony."

Well, holy hell batman!

HANG HIM!  HANG HIM!
 
2014-05-14 01:39:19 PM  

serial_crusher: The Globe discovered his name by removing "improperly created redactions" on the electronic version of a Florida report about the shooting.

Why is this not something the FBI has figured out how to do yet?


I'd guess it's because it's got a lot of guys my age (50) or older in positions of authority.  While I KNOW my own limitations regarding computer issues, I'd bet a lot them don't.  On top of that, in the FBI, you'd get more stereotypical jocks than nerds, I'd think.

Ultimately, you don't tend to reach higher levels of hierarchies by admitting you don't know stuff...
 
2014-05-14 01:44:54 PM  

jaybeezey: There was some show, Life in These US of A's, or something that had some info on this. I'll see if i can find the link.


Reader's Digest.  That's where to look.
 
2014-05-14 01:45:51 PM  

HotWingConspiracy: SphericalTime: This has got to be one of the fishiest FBI shootings.  Nothing seems to make sense.

Oh c'mon. After five hours of questioning, Todashev decided to attack an armed agent with a mop. What doesn't make sense to you?


Why the mop? Why not the broom with the dust pan attached? Are two weapons not better than one? Dust pans have pointy edges, and there are a lot of dry allergens and dust in broom bristles.

Study it out.
 
2014-05-14 01:47:26 PM  

strathmeyer: BafflerMeal: Um, what conspiracy?  You're projecting a bit in this thread.  Need coffee?.

The one where the FBI killed some guy and covered it up?? Having problems keeping up?


No, I was referring to the lunatics that think the FBI and CIA had something to do with the Boston Marathon bombing, and tie together the death of the two agents who fell out of a helicopter with this shooting and the Tsarnaevs. They're not in this thread, but they're out there.
 
2014-05-14 01:56:23 PM  

HotWingConspiracy: strathmeyer: BafflerMeal: Um, what conspiracy?  You're projecting a bit in this thread.  Need coffee?.

The one where the FBI killed some guy and covered it up?? Having problems keeping up?

Right, where a guy attacked an armed agent with a mop, when two additional police were present. It sounds 100% legit.


I used to work at a psych hospital. There were many incidents of kids attacking staff, but a memorable one involved a smallish 15 year old girl trying to muscle her way out of the unit (2 locked doors behind ~5 staff armed with sedatives) by throwing chairs at us. She didn't get any closer to the outdoors than if she'd stayed still.

Especially after a 5-hour interrogation, one might easily assume that a suspect would be fatigued/exhausted, in addition to the general stress of being interrogated (and who knows if they let him eat or use the john, or even assaulted him), and "go off". Stress and fatigue lead to bad judgement.

It doesn't excuse the shooting - cops should know this is a possibility, especially since they're used to long interrogations - but at least that part of the story on its face is legit enough to pass the smell test.
 
2014-05-14 01:57:49 PM  

SphericalTime: LazyMedia: SphericalTime: This has got to be one of the fishiest FBI shootings.  Nothing seems to make sense.

Doesn't seem that weird to me. The dead guy was a self-confessed violent criminal. The FBI agent in the room turns out to be a hothead with a history of violence and witness coercion. I'd be surprised if those two guys DIDN'T end up in a fight that left one of them dead.

Also not surprised that Tamerlan Tsarnaev was involved in ripping off and murdering drug dealers. His boxing career had tanked, and he didn't have much else going for him. That's the kind of crime that a jihadist could easily rationalize; he's just protecting the children from the white man's poison.

Yeah, thats pretty lazy.  Your screen name is spot on.


Well, what's your explanation? I think that the hothead violent FBI agent and the hoodlum in custody getting in a beef that ends in a shooting is more likely than the evil FBI killer twirling his mustache as he guns down the guy who's just sitting there minding his own business. I'm not saying the FBI guy didn't start it; he sounds like a dick. But Todashev had a violent history, too.
 
2014-05-14 01:58:58 PM  

LazyMedia: strathmeyer: BafflerMeal: Um, what conspiracy?  You're projecting a bit in this thread.  Need coffee?.

 They're not in this thread, but they're out there.


Yep, I'm goin' with 'out there'.

i1280.photobucket.com
 
2014-05-14 02:13:11 PM  

Dr Dreidel: HotWingConspiracy: strathmeyer: BafflerMeal: Um, what conspiracy?  You're projecting a bit in this thread.  Need coffee?.

The one where the FBI killed some guy and covered it up?? Having problems keeping up?

Right, where a guy attacked an armed agent with a mop, when two additional police were present. It sounds 100% legit.

I used to work at a psych hospital. There were many incidents of kids attacking staff, but a memorable one involved a smallish 15 year old girl trying to muscle her way out of the unit (2 locked doors behind ~5 staff armed with sedatives) by throwing chairs at us. She didn't get any closer to the outdoors than if she'd stayed still.

Especially after a 5-hour interrogation, one might easily assume that a suspect would be fatigued/exhausted, in addition to the general stress of being interrogated (and who knows if they let him eat or use the john, or even assaulted him), and "go off". Stress and fatigue lead to bad judgement.

It doesn't excuse the shooting - cops should know this is a possibility, especially since they're used to long interrogations - but at least that part of the story on its face is legit enough to pass the smell test.


You're in a room with 3 armed officers for 5 hours, THEN you think, "I'll just grab this mop and have at them!"

Sure
 
2014-05-14 02:17:04 PM  
Never, ever talk to a cop without a lawyer. Ever. Even if the agent was attacked by Tamerlan, a lawyer isn't going to let agents badger their client for 5 hours while they get visibly upset. It would have been a quick interview that ended peacefully.
 
2014-05-14 02:17:09 PM  
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Hey guys, what's going on in this thread?!?
 
2014-05-14 02:22:32 PM  

tinyarena: Dr Dreidel: HotWingConspiracy: strathmeyer: BafflerMeal: Um, what conspiracy?  You're projecting a bit in this thread.  Need coffee?.

The one where the FBI killed some guy and covered it up?? Having problems keeping up?

Right, where a guy attacked an armed agent with a mop, when two additional police were present. It sounds 100% legit.

I used to work at a psych hospital. There were many incidents of kids attacking staff, but a memorable one involved a smallish 15 year old girl trying to muscle her way out of the unit (2 locked doors behind ~5 staff armed with sedatives) by throwing chairs at us. She didn't get any closer to the outdoors than if she'd stayed still.

Especially after a 5-hour interrogation, one might easily assume that a suspect would be fatigued/exhausted, in addition to the general stress of being interrogated (and who knows if they let him eat or use the john, or even assaulted him), and "go off". Stress and fatigue lead to bad judgement.

It doesn't excuse the shooting - cops should know this is a possibility, especially since they're used to long interrogations - but at least that part of the story on its face is legit enough to pass the smell test.

You're in a room with 3 armed officers for 5 hours, THEN you think, "I'll just grab this mop and have at them!"

Sure


4.5 hours of cops calmly asking you questions, 30 minutes of them being complete dicks and threatening you. I doubt there was a lot of thinking involved, if he did shove the table over and grab whatever metal thingy it was he supposedly grabbed.
 
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