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2014-05-14 10:14:30 AM  
Wow. Everyone is equipped with a backup regulator, and some people carry small spare air tanks, but that is *really* scary. That is attempted murder.
 
2014-05-14 10:14:45 AM  
Yea, that's attempted murder.
 
2014-05-14 10:25:40 AM  
Subby is an asshole in kind of a brilliant way for the headline.
That said, scary indeed!
 
2014-05-14 10:25:48 AM  
Please explain the headline?
 
2014-05-14 10:28:17 AM  

MelGoesOnTour: Please explain the headline?


Who sang the song "All Out of Love"?
 
2014-05-14 10:38:13 AM  

scottydoesntknow: MelGoesOnTour: Please explain the headline?

Who sang the song "All Out of Love"?


Verrrry good one, subby!  :)
 
2014-05-14 10:54:07 AM  
Oh, well done +1, HOTW, HOTY contender all around.
 
2014-05-14 10:58:36 AM  
img841.imageshack.us
 
2014-05-14 11:13:47 AM  
That's attempted murder.
 
2014-05-14 12:38:37 PM  
Headline win!
 
2014-05-14 12:39:21 PM  
Who the f*ck would do that!?! That's messed up.
 
2014-05-14 12:39:37 PM  

Marcus Aurelius: That's attempted murder.


Yeah, but it's an environmentalist, so I'm kinda surprised it made the news.  Is it because she survived?
 
2014-05-14 12:40:16 PM  

scottydoesntknow: MelGoesOnTour: Please explain the headline?

Who sang the song "All Out of Love"?


Air Supply.  Y'arly.
 
2014-05-14 12:40:33 PM  

cgraves67: Who the f*ck would do that!?! That's messed up.


Like I implied in the post above, environmentalists are actually murdered quite frequently, and it usually doesn't make the news.  I'm not sure why this case is different.
 
2014-05-14 12:41:24 PM  

vernonFL: Wow. Everyone is equipped with a backup regulator, and some people carry small spare air tanks, but that is *really* scary. That is attempted murder.


And your training includes losing your regulators, re-rigging the gear underwater, etc.  

Yeah this is attempted murder.  If nothing else he's going to have a hard time ever getting a safe tank
 
2014-05-14 12:42:04 PM  
The thing to do in that situation is to blow the ballast tanks and shoot to the surface as quickly as possible, breeching like a whale or that sub in Hunt for Red October.  Then you'll have plenty of time to fix your regulator.
 
2014-05-14 12:42:17 PM  
Apparently the guy had a bag filled with baby Yellow Tangs.

/knows there's a joke in there somewhere
//drinks orange tang
 
2014-05-14 12:42:35 PM  

ikanreed: cgraves67: Who the f*ck would do that!?! That's messed up.

Like I implied in the post above, environmentalists are actually murdered quite frequently, and it usually doesn't make the news.  I'm not sure why this case is different.


Video would be my guess, along with the perpetrator's lack of success.
 
2014-05-14 12:42:36 PM  
Nice subby, subtle, clever.   two thumbs up.
 
2014-05-14 12:43:39 PM  

ikanreed: cgraves67: Who the f*ck would do that!?! That's messed up.

Like I implied in the post above, environmentalists are actually murdered quite frequently, and it usually doesn't make the news.  I'm not sure why this case is different.


Probably because it was caught on tape.
 
2014-05-14 12:45:09 PM  

ikanreed: cgraves67: Who the f*ck would do that!?! That's messed up.

Like I implied in the post above, environmentalists are actually murdered quite frequently, and it usually doesn't make the news.  I'm not sure why this case is different.


Happened off the coast of a US state, caught on camera, and she survived.

You're probably right if she didn't live it would be chalked up to an accident.
 
2014-05-14 12:47:28 PM  

syrynxx: The thing to do in that situation is to blow the ballast tanks and shoot to the surface as quickly as possible, breeching like a whale or that sub in Hunt for Red October.  Then you'll have plenty of time to fix your regulator.


I thought surfacing too fast could result in a potentially deadly case of the bends.

/not a diver, so no expert.
 
2014-05-14 12:48:38 PM  
Mike Nelson wouldn't panic.
 
2014-05-14 12:49:53 PM  

ristst: syrynxx: The thing to do in that situation is to blow the ballast tanks and shoot to the surface as quickly as possible, breeching like a whale or that sub in Hunt for Red October.  Then you'll have plenty of time to fix your regulator.

I thought surfacing too fast could result in a potentially deadly case of the bends.

/not a diver, so no expert.


Yes, do not actually take syrynxx's advice. At the very least, it will hurt a whooooole lot.
 
2014-05-14 12:50:08 PM  
Subby made love out of nothing at all.
 
2014-05-14 12:52:12 PM  
+1 Subby
 
2014-05-14 12:52:13 PM  

scottydoesntknow: ikanreed: cgraves67: Who the f*ck would do that!?! That's messed up.

Like I implied in the post above, environmentalists are actually murdered quite frequently, and it usually doesn't make the news.  I'm not sure why this case is different.

Happened off the coast of a US state, caught on camera, and she survived.

You're probably right if she didn't live it would be chalked up to an accident.


although the footage would have been played to see her last moments -

Just and small fact:  In my state, there are no "Attempted Murder" charges -  either you succeeded or you didn't . There are many states like this. It's still a crime, it's just not called "attempted murder".
 
2014-05-14 12:52:46 PM  

syrynxx: The thing to do in that situation is to blow the ballast tanks and shoot to the surface as quickly as possible, breeching like a whale or that sub in Hunt for Red October.  Then you'll have plenty of time to fix your regulator.


and recover from "the Bends" if you were deep enough.   I've been diving with a Bum regulator (it was my first time so as I was going deep  I thought that "almost suffocating" feeling was normal for SCUBA , fortunately I was practicing switching to my backup regulator underwater during the dive and quickly figured out the difference)  and it is on my top ten ten list of NOT FUN things to do.     Now granted my dive experience is limited to the Caribbean, but I've always been given to understand that farking with someone's equipment either dockside or in the water was something That was NOT DONE. do-like "expect a savage beating from a vigilante mob of fellow divers if you do that" kind of Not Done
 
2014-05-14 12:54:31 PM  

ristst: syrynxx: The thing to do in that situation is to blow the ballast tanks and shoot to the surface as quickly as possible, breeching like a whale or that sub in Hunt for Red October.  Then you'll have plenty of time to fix your regulator.

I thought surfacing too fast could result in a potentially deadly case of the bends.

/not a diver, so no expert.


Bends possibly - if the diver was down long enough and deep enough for the nitrogen to start building up.  First few minutes of a 50 foot deep dive and the first dive of the day? Not likely.  Possible, but not likely.  Pushing limits of no-decomp time (70 min at 50 feet from the old NAUI/PADI tables I memorized) on a first dive, or within limits but towards the back half on a second/third dive, yeah, potential for bends as well as other nasties.

However, if they are holding their breath, the air in the lungs will expand as water pressure decreases.  33' of saltwater is 1 atmosphere of pressure, which would double the cubic inches of air present.  If the diver didn't pass out, remember to exhale on the way up, etc. then damage to the lungs could happen.  Ever see a latex balloon pop? Yeah....
 
2014-05-14 12:54:50 PM  

scottydoesntknow: ristst: syrynxx: The thing to do in that situation is to blow the ballast tanks and shoot to the surface as quickly as possible, breeching like a whale or that sub in Hunt for Red October.  Then you'll have plenty of time to fix your regulator.

I thought surfacing too fast could result in a potentially deadly case of the bends.

/not a diver, so no expert.

Yes, do not actually take syrynxx's advice. At the very least, it will hurt a whooooole lot.


Yeah, people in the article comments said it wouldn't be too bad to surface from 50 feet, and you could continuously exhale as the air expands.
/also not a diver
/don't really plan to either
 
2014-05-14 12:55:21 PM  

ristst: syrynxx: The thing to do in that situation is to blow the ballast tanks and shoot to the surface as quickly as possible, breeching like a whale or that sub in Hunt for Red October.  Then you'll have plenty of time to fix your regulator.

I thought surfacing too fast could result in a potentially deadly case of the bends.

/not a diver, so no expert.


You can get a pulmonary embolism if you have a breath of air at depth and do not release it as you ascend.  The bends is from nitrogen dissolved in the blood, which is quite different.
 
2014-05-14 12:55:26 PM  

Dreyelle: Apparently the guy had a bag filled with baby Yellow Tangs.


i.telegraph.co.uk
 
2014-05-14 12:55:29 PM  

vernonFL: Wow. Everyone is equipped with a backup regulator, and some people carry small spare air tanks, but that is *really* scary. That is attempted murder.


As a NAUI certified diver I'm also equipped with a large knife and the knowledge to use it.

We had to take our regulators out, drop them and then do an arm sweep to find them.  Purging and replacing a regulator is fairly basic.  Resort divers and those who took quick certification class may not be so good.
 
2014-05-14 12:56:16 PM  
Nice headline.

/The asshole should go to jail.
 
2014-05-14 12:57:10 PM  

MassAsster: scottydoesntknow: ikanreed: cgraves67: Who the f*ck would do that!?! That's messed up.

Like I implied in the post above, environmentalists are actually murdered quite frequently, and it usually doesn't make the news.  I'm not sure why this case is different.

Happened off the coast of a US state, caught on camera, and she survived.

You're probably right if she didn't live it would be chalked up to an accident.

although the footage would have been played to see her last moments -

Just and small fact:  In my state, there are no "Attempted Murder" charges -  either you succeeded or you didn't . There are many states like this. It's still a crime, it's just not called "attempted murder".


So they don't give out a Nobel prize for attempted Chemistry as well?
 
2014-05-14 12:58:24 PM  

ikanreed: cgraves67: Who the f*ck would do that!?! That's messed up.

Like I implied in the post above, environmentalists are actually murdered quite frequently, and it usually doesn't make the news.  I'm not sure why this case is different.


The internet is the great equalizer
 
2014-05-14 12:58:39 PM  
Psych!!!
 
2014-05-14 01:01:45 PM  
WOW, that's farked up.

But at least there's this part:

Umberger told reporters she thinks she knows who the assailant was and intends to press charges.

I clicked on the link, and it looks like the culprit looks like this:


LOL, in other words, it just gives me a blank screen. Or maybe its a ginger with leukemia outside in a blizzard.
 
2014-05-14 01:02:25 PM  
By that time, my lungs were aching for air.
 
2014-05-14 01:06:03 PM  

ristst: syrynxx: The thing to do in that situation is to blow the ballast tanks and shoot to the surface as quickly as possible, breeching like a whale or that sub in Hunt for Red October.  Then you'll have plenty of time to fix your regulator.

I thought surfacing too fast could result in a potentially deadly case of the bends.

/not a diver, so no expert.


I thought it would be a clue that divers do not have ballast tanks like submarines.  Yes, do not do this.  Nitrogen dissolves in your bloodstream at higher pressures (deeper depths) and popping to the surface like a cork will cause your entire bloodstream to act like a soda can you shook up and opened.  It will be excruciating, you will probably die, and the only treatment is to give you oxygen and quickly get you to a hyperbaric chamber.

/advanced open water certified, specialties in navigation/deep diving/wreck diving/underwater videography/fish identification/manta rays/whale sharks

Here is a lovely whale shark and manta ray dive by way of apology.

i831.photobucket.com
 
2014-05-14 01:09:33 PM  
Why do I have a feeling this is some sort of bullshiat concocted from the plot of a bad James Bond movie?  She has 10,000 dives and she was worried about her reg popping out of her mouth?  I was doing controlled ascents from 100' during my advanced class - which was about 20 dives in to my career.  When I was certifying my kids (both at age 10), I drilled regulator recovery constantly - including pulling the regs out of their mouths as if it caught on a kelp plant or something.  Pardon the pun, but this thing smells fishy.
 
2014-05-14 01:09:40 PM  
This isn't attempted murder, assault sure.

When I got certified 25 years ago my instructor would constantly do any number of things to keep me on my toes so I wouldn't automatically panic. Pull of my mask, yank my regulator, turn off my tank.
As to the risk of dying of the bends, you really need a lot of bottom time (no, not that kind) to build up enough N2. Now holding your breath in a panic while rapidly surfacing.... Yeah you'll rupture something in your lungs by doing that.
 
2014-05-14 01:11:52 PM  

ikanreed: Yeah, but it's an environmentalist, so I'm kinda surprised it made the news.


ikanreed: Like I implied in the post above, environmentalists are actually murdered quite frequently, and it usually doesn't make the news.


Is everyone just gonna let the wacko with the "MSM covers up frequent murders of environmentalists" conspiracy theory off the hook like that? For shame, Fark!
 
2014-05-14 01:13:06 PM  

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Just some cosplay that got out of hand...

 
2014-05-14 01:14:59 PM  

syrynxx: ristst: syrynxx: The thing to do in that situation is to blow the ballast tanks and shoot to the surface as quickly as possible, breeching like a whale or that sub in Hunt for Red October.  Then you'll have plenty of time to fix your regulator.

I thought surfacing too fast could result in a potentially deadly case of the bends.

/not a diver, so no expert.

I thought it would be a clue that divers do not have ballast tanks like submarines.  Yes, do not do this.  Nitrogen dissolves in your bloodstream at higher pressures (deeper depths) and popping to the surface like a cork will cause your entire bloodstream to act like a soda can you shook up and opened.  It will be excruciating, you will probably die, and the only treatment is to give you oxygen and quickly get you to a hyperbaric chamber.

/advanced open water certified, specialties in navigation/deep diving/wreck diving/underwater videography/fish identification/manta rays/whale sharks

Here is a lovely whale shark and manta ray dive by way of apology.

[i831.photobucket.com image 833x479]


What do you consider your BCD?  Pretty much the same concept....  And getting bent is not the biggest danger with an uncontrolled ascent.  A gas bubble is way more likely to kill you than DCS during a fast ascent, but anyone with 10,000 dives would be exhaling simply by second nature.

/way more certifications than you
 
2014-05-14 01:19:08 PM  

Cold_Sassy: scottydoesntknow: MelGoesOnTour: Please explain the headline?

Who sang the song "All Out of Love"?

Air Supply.  Y'arly.


i feel old because i knew what the headline meant when i read it.
 
2014-05-14 01:19:56 PM  

scottydoesntknow: ristst: syrynxx: The thing to do in that situation is to blow the ballast tanks and shoot to the surface as quickly as possible, breeching like a whale or that sub in Hunt for Red October.  Then you'll have plenty of time to fix your regulator.

I thought surfacing too fast could result in a potentially deadly case of the bends.

/not a diver, so no expert.

Yes, do not actually take syrynxx's advice. At the very least, it will hurt a whooooole lot.


No, it won't hurt that much when you surface your submarine from 50 feet.
 
2014-05-14 01:21:05 PM  
syrynxx:

Here is a lovely whale shark and manta ray dive by way of apology.

[i831.photobucket.com image 833x479]


Georgia Aquarium?  Most tour operators won't let you use SCUBA when diving with whale sharks because the noise freaks them out.  At least that's the case with the good ones.
 
2014-05-14 01:21:11 PM  
This guy deserves to be charged. However any trained diver should be able to handle this situation with no real danger.

50 feet isn't that deep, and swimming it on a breath (while exhaling) is not very hard. Finding a misplaced regulator (or your spare) is part of your training too.

My instructor used to pull our regs out when training, or pinch the hose, and even shut off the tanks of the more experienced guys. All this was to make sure we would react properly, and teach us not to panic. And it worked.

If the guy was trying to hold her down, then it would be worse.  Use your dive knife in that situation.
 
2014-05-14 01:21:46 PM  

madgonad: This isn't attempted murder, assault sure.

When I got certified 25 years ago my instructor would constantly do any number of things to keep me on my toes so I wouldn't automatically panic. Pull of my mask, yank my regulator, turn off my tank.
As to the risk of dying of the bends, you really need a lot of bottom time (no, not that kind) to build up enough N2. Now holding your breath in a panic while rapidly surfacing.... Yeah you'll rupture something in your lungs by doing that.


Unless the person who ripped out the regulator knew the environmentalist personally and knew the level of scuba experience she had, it's attempted murder.  As the article says, an inexperienced diver might have panicked and done something which wound up with them dead, one of any number of things.

Aside from that, there's the raw facts of the situation: the woman was in an environment where she was surrounded by things not suitable towards continued human life, and this guy ripped out the only thing actively preventing her from dying.  It's not like punching someone in the face, where you can argue that you only intended to harm but not kill.  This is like cutting the lines to someone's main parachute while leaving the backup alone: sure, they COULD survive, but if they don't keep a level head and know what to do they're boned.
 
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