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(Mirror.co.uk)   Monty Pythons' Terry Gilliam wants the entire crew slapped in the face with a fish, says reunion show should be cancelled   (mirror.co.uk) divider line 43
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2014-05-14 09:36:50 AM  
It's not MP without Chapman anyway.
I'll still go see the show in my local movie theater, but just for sentimental value.
 
2014-05-14 11:10:22 AM  
I'm a huge fan but do not want to see this. I'm with Terry on this one. Monty Python is over, move on. Make it a big fish.
 
2014-05-14 12:06:02 PM  
The best thing they could do is remake Yellowbeard and put in more tits
 
2014-05-14 12:07:18 PM  
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2014-05-14 12:14:57 PM  
It'll be dreadful if they bomb
It'll color their entire careers
They won't be able to do any of the physical comedy
So it'll be like their news skits, pub skits, the parakeet thing
Maybe they can work up some modern material
Using current news and celebs
 
2014-05-14 12:20:46 PM  
One should always look on the bright side of life.  I'm a lumberjack and I'm OK with this
 
2014-05-14 12:48:45 PM  
I know it's apples and oranges, but I saw Cheech and Chong's tour 7-8yrs ago. There were a lot of the old skits they couldn't do but between the old and new it was still a great show imho.

Yes this won't be the whole crew but I for one won't miss it if it comes to my town.
 
2014-05-14 12:54:49 PM  
I am surprised they get along well enough to do a show.

My fear is it will be like "Fierce Creatures" a "let's get the gang together for another movie" and it flops. Horribly horribly.
 
2014-05-14 01:18:33 PM  

Trik: It'll be dreadful if they bomb
It'll color their entire careers
They won't be able to do any of the physical comedy
So it'll be like their news skits, pub skits, the parakeet thing
Maybe they can work up some modern material
Using current news and celebs


Stop that. This thread is getting entirely too silly.
 
2014-05-14 01:30:03 PM  
So he hopes the reunion is cancelled but he's participating in it anyway? WTF?? If he really believed the show must not go on he would have bowed out. As it is it's difficult to take him seriously.

"Waaah, we've sold out!!" Well no one put a gun to your head and made you take the money, Terry. Prick. He always struck me as the most self-serious and pompous of the troupe if you read his interviews or listen to his DVD commentaries.
 
2014-05-14 01:34:42 PM  
What a hypocrite.  He was pretty much the animator, anyway.  Not a performer.  And the only American.  His bitter participation is not really required.  Why doesn't he be a man and refuse the money, stay home, and shut up?  If you don't want to sell out, don't sell out, you sell-out.  And stop crapping on yourself and your friends and fans.

And make a decent movie for a change.
 
2014-05-14 01:46:22 PM  
There aren't any fish that large.  Whales don't count - they're mammals.
 
2014-05-14 01:54:26 PM  
So... why is he participating if he thinks it's a bad idea and they've "sold out"?

Li'l Robbie: There aren't any fish that large.  Whales don't count - they're mammals.


There are Whale Sharks...
 
2014-05-14 02:04:05 PM  
Ok, how about everyone forget about all the reasons, critics, fans & Pythons alike.

And it comes down to ONE bloody point.

They're funny...and many would love them to do their thing which they are so good at.


Who cares, why or why not???
Might as well argue why the sun comes up every day.  The main reason has been proven and then some.
 
2014-05-14 02:09:51 PM  

dajoro: What a hypocrite.  He was pretty much the animator, anyway.  Not a performer.  And the only American.  His bitter participation is not really required.  Why doesn't he be a man and refuse the money, stay home, and shut up?  If you don't want to sell out, don't sell out, you sell-out.  And stop crapping on yourself and your friends and fans.

And make a decent movie for a change.


Splitter!
www.austinchronicle.com
 
2014-05-14 02:09:56 PM  

Li'l Robbie: There aren't any fish that large.  Whales don't count - they're mammals.


Whale sharks
Oar fish
 
2014-05-14 02:31:28 PM  
I've paid for my tickets, booked hotels, flights, and cars, and essentially have a whole summer holiday based around seeing their show.

If they cancel the shows, I'll be really upset. I'll have plenty of other things to do during the holiday, but getting to see MP live is a huge item on my bucket list.
 
2014-05-14 02:51:22 PM  
The show will be very much worthwhile if Eric Idle gets hit with a 55-gallon drum of anything heavy and dense.Or they could fire him out of a cannon into a farking stone wall. Jerk.
 
2014-05-14 03:12:24 PM  
They smell of elderberries.
 
2014-05-14 03:40:42 PM  
I really enjoy a lot of what Terry Gilliam has done.  Time Bandits.  Baron Munchausen. 12 Monkeys.  Brazil.  But is the guy EVER happy?
 
2014-05-14 03:44:36 PM  
C'mon, Terry. It's Monty Python. Selling out is fine. Part of the appeal of Python is the self-deprecating humor of how crap they were. Poking fun at low budgets and supposedly lazy writing.

And as great as they were, they can never live up to the messiah-level worship that the public has retroactively anointed them with.

As for being dragged back, Python achieved rock star levels of fame but never the decadent paychecks of pop kings or star athletes. Just a comfortable living, and semi-regular work. Above average for a typical actor. I can see resenting living in the shadow of greatness that wasn't even appreciated at the time it first aired, but all the surviving members have had decent careers, and going back to the well doesn't change that.
 
2014-05-14 04:10:51 PM  

Another Government Employee: They smell of elderberries.


Ok. That's funny.
 
2014-05-14 04:13:38 PM  

LindenFark: C'mon, Terry. It's Monty Python. Selling out is fine. Part of the appeal of Python is the self-deprecating humor of how crap they were. Poking fun at low budgets and supposedly lazy writing.

And as great as they were, they can never live up to the messiah-level worship that the public has retroactively anointed them with.

As for being dragged back, Python achieved rock star levels of fame but never the decadent paychecks of pop kings or star athletes. Just a comfortable living, and semi-regular work. Above average for a typical actor. I can see resenting living in the shadow of greatness that wasn't even appreciated at the time it first aired, but all the surviving members have had decent careers, and going back to the well doesn't change that.


Oh, a lot of us worshipped them when it aired. Even here in America.
 
2014-05-14 05:30:17 PM  
Terry Gilliam is a DoucheBag. He gypped George Harrison out of tons of money making Time Bandits, and George's song in the end credits was one subliminal "F*CK YOU!" to Gilliam and his scammy ways.

♬  "Greedy feeling wheeling dealing
Losing what you won
See the dream come undone"
 
2014-05-14 06:38:08 PM  
Terry Gilliam should not be talking about how to end something properly.  He doesn't have a f*cking clue how to end a movie.  He is probably worse than M. Shammalammadingdong.  Compare their first, best works - ending of Sixth Sense - awesome.  Ending of Monty Python and the Holy Grail - completely awful.
 
2014-05-14 06:53:40 PM  
Shut the f*ck up Donnie Terry!
 
2014-05-14 06:54:59 PM  

syrynxx: Compare their first, best works - ending of Sixth Sense


The Sixth Sense was M.N.S's third completed and released feature film following  Praying With Anger and Wide_Awake,


(Neither of which had twist endings.)
 
2014-05-14 07:12:54 PM  
There's something very sad about reunions;
There's something very maudlin when a troupe
Once nifty in their prime
Gets nackered by Father Time
And ends up dropping dentures in their soup.
 
2014-05-14 07:23:14 PM  
While Praying With Anger never received a megawide American release, It played at seeming every film festival under the sun during the early mid-1990s and I know one trust-worthy-to-me person who saw it at a theater during his one and only visit to India during that timespan.

M. Night seemingly can't* release it, which is a shame because it really is his best movie (and utterly atypical both content-and-style-wise from what he's famous for).

*something about legal ownership rights issues is the reason I've most heard.
 
2014-05-14 07:44:51 PM  

syrynxx: Terry Gilliam should not be talking about how to end something properly.  He doesn't have a f*cking clue how to end a movie.  He is probably worse than M. Shammalammadingdong.  Compare their first, best works - ending of Sixth Sense - awesome.  Ending of Monty Python and the Holy Grail - completely awful.


The ending to Grail was fine. Now, The Fisher King...
 
2014-05-14 07:49:19 PM  
And...yeah...the oak tree seemingly perma-lodged up Gilliam's backside has a slightly smaller maple tree perma-lodged up its backside.

He ain't someone I'd ever want to be sentenced to driving cross-country with, but the man has created a generous amount of good-to-great longlasting art (alongside a generous amount of instantly forgettable sh*te.)
 
2014-05-14 08:11:23 PM  
The fact that anyone is taking anything negative that they Pythons say about each other as the truth is verging on pathetic.
 
2014-05-14 08:24:56 PM  

jj325: I really enjoy a lot of what Terry Gilliam has done.  Time Bandits.  Baron Munchausen. 12 Monkeys.  Brazil.  But is the guy EVER happy?


Given how often he's been screwed over, I can understand his attitude.
 
2014-05-14 09:28:41 PM  

rogue49: Ok, how about everyone forget about all the reasons, critics, fans & Pythons alike.

And it comes down to ONE bloody point.

They're funny...and many would love them to do their thing which they are so good at.


Who cares, why or why not???
Might as well argue why the sun comes up every day.  The main reason has been proven and then some.


They used to be funny. Getting back together now will be similar to if Paul McCartney and Ringo Starr were to pretend to be The Beatles. Too few and too old in both cases.
 
2014-05-14 09:43:50 PM  
it would be like going to a Bob Dylan concert. morbid.
 
2014-05-14 10:12:09 PM  
can we call the fish Wanda?
 
2014-05-14 10:17:02 PM  
There's alimony to be paid. Divorce is expensive because it's worth it!
 
2014-05-14 10:21:42 PM  
Terry Gilliam has started and not finished more movies than I have watched.

Watch Lost in LaMancha if you want to see how messed up he is. Plus the failures of Brazil, Baron Munchausen and read the history of The Watchmen movie and on and on....
 
2014-05-15 01:07:51 AM  

dajoro: What a hypocrite.  He was pretty much the animator, anyway.  Not a performer.  And the only American.  His bitter participation is not really required.  Why doesn't he be a man and refuse the money, stay home, and shut up?  If you don't want to sell out, don't sell out, you sell-out.  And stop crapping on yourself and your friends and fans.

And make a decent movie for a change.


I'm pretty sure he had a fatal heart attack back in the '70s.
 
2014-05-15 05:34:48 AM  

laughin: I am surprised they get along well enough to do a show.

My fear is it will be like "Fierce Creatures" a "let's get the gang together for another movie" and it flops. Horribly horribly.


I love Fierce Creatures, Wanda. er.. Willa.
 
2014-05-15 09:10:52 AM  

paulleah: Terry Gilliam has started and not finished more movies than I have watched.

Watch Lost in LaMancha if you want to see how messed up he is. Plus the failures of Brazil, Baron Munchausen and read the history of The Watchmen movie and on and on....


Brazil is a sci-fi masterpiece!
 
2014-05-15 11:36:30 AM  
This "reunion" is just not something I want to see.
 
2014-05-15 01:54:19 PM  

alechemist: can we call the fish Wanda?


Not the green ones, though - they're not ripe

/ARSEHOOOOOLLLEE!!
 
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