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(Hardball Talk)   Jose Abreu is now the seventh player in MLB history to have 14 home runs after his first 40 games. The others on the list? Good luck guessing   (hardballtalk.nbcsports.com) divider line 27
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2014-05-14 12:53:14 PM
Kevin Maas. There's a name I hadn't thought about in a long time. The second coming of Don Mattingly.
 
2014-05-14 01:05:32 PM
Challenge accepted:

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2014-05-14 01:30:05 PM

mediablitz: Kevin Maas. There's a name I hadn't thought about in a long time. The second coming of Don Mattingly.


And Wally Joyner.  I remember the butthurt when Wally got the All Star nod over Mattingly as a rookie.
 
2014-05-14 02:03:57 PM
I guessed Pujols.

I'm surprised Mark McGwire wasn't one of them.
 
2014-05-14 02:07:58 PM
Yeah but he plays for Chicago so it is not like he will ever do anything great.

Oh wait never mind, he plays for the other Chicago team. He should be a stud then.
 
2014-05-14 02:35:52 PM

Three Crooked Squirrels: mediablitz: Kevin Maas. There's a name I hadn't thought about in a long time. The second coming of Don Mattingly.

And Wally Joyner.  I remember the butthurt when Wally got the All Star nod over Mattingly as a rookie.


At least Joyner stuck around for a while. Maas was gone in what, two years?
 
2014-05-14 02:38:51 PM
For his first few seasons, FSN had a tracker showing where Braun ranked on the Most HR to start a career list. Weird that I don't remember doing it for Fielder, but his first season he only hit 28. Or racism.
 
2014-05-14 02:52:39 PM
Lots of guys have had 14 homers after 40 games. Oh you meant BY 40 games. Carry on then
 
2014-05-14 03:05:00 PM
Shouldn't Willie Stargell be on that list (1971)?
 
2014-05-14 03:07:34 PM

Another Government Employee: Shouldn't Willie Stargell be on that list (1971)?


NVM.

Reading comprehension fail.

Sorry.
 
2014-05-14 03:18:03 PM
I actually got Mike Jacobs. I guess I'm a nerd
 
2014-05-14 03:51:55 PM
Useless stats. What we need to know is how many hit them off right handed pitchers wearing non-white uniforms who didn't play in the Little League World Series.
 
2014-05-14 03:56:46 PM

mediablitz: Three Crooked Squirrels: mediablitz: Kevin Maas. There's a name I hadn't thought about in a long time. The second coming of Don Mattingly.

And Wally Joyner.  I remember the butthurt when Wally got the All Star nod over Mattingly as a rookie.

At least Joyner stuck around for a while. Maas was gone in what, two years?


Wally Joyner played 16 years with decent numbers - .289 career average, 2060 hits (including 409 doubles) and a good defensive 1B.

Kevin Maas played 3 seasons (with two partial seasons totaling 81 games), with good numbers his rookie season, and nothing else. 86 career homers (his 162-game average puts him at 26 HR).

// just FYI
 
2014-05-14 03:59:04 PM
Kevin Maas?

::checks list::

Oh, yeah.  Kevin Maas.
 
2014-05-14 04:04:47 PM
Babe Ruth hit 15 in his first season as a full-time position player, but he was hardly a rookie by then.  And in case you forget how amazing the Babe was, Abreu is slugging .611 after his red-hot start of 41 games... Babe slugged .690 over his 22-year career.

Abreu looks very promising, but he also has the same weakness of a lot of hitters from the Cuban system-- 7 unintentional walks after 177 PA.  Even washouts like Kevin Maas (15 UIBB after 152 PA) and Mike Jacobs (15 UIBB in 153 PA) had a decent batting eye during their initial run.  Abreu swings hard and has good plate coverage, but sooner or later pitchers are going to stop throwing him anything in the strike zone.
 
2014-05-14 04:27:32 PM
I guessed all of them

/I did not guess all of them
 
2014-05-14 04:37:36 PM

chimp_ninja: Abreu swings hard and has good plate coverage, but sooner or later pitchers are going to stop throwing him anything in the strike zone.


And some numbers to back that up:

Swinging at pitches not in the strike zone:
Abreu: 40%
MLB average: 29%

Making contact when swinging at pitches not in the strike zone:
Abreu: 57%
MLB average: 65%

Percentage of pitches thrown to this batter in the strike zone:
Abreu: 40%
MLB average: 47%

If he stays hot, I'd bet these trends get even stronger.
 
2014-05-14 04:55:28 PM

chimp_ninja: Abreu swings hard and has good plate coverage, but sooner or later pitchers are going to stop throwing him anything in the strike zone.


Mr. Abreu's stats so far in May (not counting today's game, in which he's 0 for 2 with a strikeout):

49 PAs

.277/.286/.596

18 K

1 BB

It's also worth noting that he's sporting a .346 BABIP during that time.
 
2014-05-14 05:23:20 PM

Dr Dreidel: Wally Joyner played 16 years with decent numbers - .289 career average, 2060 hits (including 409 doubles) and a good defensive 1B.

Kevin Maas played 3 seasons (with two partial seasons totaling 81 games), with good numbers his rookie season, and nothing else. 86 career homers (his 162-game average puts him at 26 HR).



Yeah, figured it was something like that for Maas. I had his 1990 Upper Deck rookie card. I remember it going to some bat-shiat crazy price overnight. Traded it for a Frank Thomas card.

/ still have about a dozen Juan Gonzalez rookie cards
 
2014-05-14 06:06:55 PM
Make it 15 in his first 42 games
 
2014-05-14 06:07:23 PM

Cagey B: (not counting today's game, in which he's 0 for 2 with a strikeout):


Haha, you made him mad.
 
2014-05-14 06:20:52 PM

DeWayne Mann: Cagey B: (not counting today's game, in which he's 0 for 2 with a strikeout):

Haha, you made him mad.


I figured that would happen as soon as I posted that.
 
2014-05-14 06:37:19 PM

Cagey B: DeWayne Mann: Cagey B: (not counting today's game, in which he's 0 for 2 with a strikeout):

Haha, you made him mad.

I figured that would happen as soon as I posted that.


I had something similar last year. I posted about Torii Hunter in this thread, noting that he was mostly just a singles hitter and his batting average probably overrated him.

That night, he hit a walk-off homer.

Meh.
 
2014-05-14 07:06:37 PM

mediablitz: Kevin Maas. There's a name I hadn't thought about in a long time. The second coming of Don Mattingly.


I remember NY media jizzing their pantaloons over the guy.
 
2014-05-14 07:47:42 PM

gameshowhost: mediablitz: Kevin Maas. There's a name I hadn't thought about in a long time. The second coming of Don Mattingly.

I remember NY media jizzing their pantaloons over the guy.


Of course they did.  It's been a couple decades since the Yankees were bad at baseball, but in 1990 they were 67-95.  That's not even regular bad.  That's just awful.

Then they had a rookie hit 21 HR (with a .367 OBP, to boot) in less than half a season.  He was runner-up for Rookie of the Year while everyone failed to notice Kevin Appier.

Back then, no one really understood defense all that well, so people didn't notice that he was god-awful, even for a 1B (and he had to play defense, because this team also had the ghost of Steve Balboni's career at DH).  The fans didn't notice that he hit .164/.273/.313 vs. lefties.  Or that his OPS dropped 170 points when he left Yankee Stadium.  Or that he hit worse every month.  Next year, pitchers exploited his weak spots and he basically evaporated.  But in 1990, he was crushing it.

They had been cheering for the team with the worst offense in the AL, with a broken shadow of Don Mattingly hitting .256 with no power.  The only good regular was Jesse Barfield.  Tim Leary almost became a 20-game loser (despite pitching roughly average baseball... that team didn't score at all).

So yeah, he was a big story in NY.
 
2014-05-14 08:23:32 PM

chimp_ninja: gameshowhost: mediablitz: Kevin Maas. There's a name I hadn't thought about in a long time. The second coming of Don Mattingly.

I remember NY media jizzing their pantaloons over the guy.

Of course they did.  It's been a couple decades since the Yankees were bad at baseball, but in 1990 they were 67-95.  That's not even regular bad.  That's just awful.

Then they had a rookie hit 21 HR (with a .367 OBP, to boot) in less than half a season.  He was runner-up for Rookie of the Year while everyone failed to notice Kevin Appier.

Back then, no one really understood defense all that well, so people didn't notice that he was god-awful, even for a 1B (and he had to play defense, because this team also had the ghost of Steve Balboni's career at DH).  The fans didn't notice that he hit .164/.273/.313 vs. lefties.  Or that his OPS dropped 170 points when he left Yankee Stadium.  Or that he hit worse every month.  Next year, pitchers exploited his weak spots and he basically evaporated.  But in 1990, he was crushing it.

They had been cheering for the team with the worst offense in the AL, with a broken shadow of Don Mattingly hitting .256 with no power.  The only good regular was Jesse Barfield.  Tim Leary almost became a 20-game loser (despite pitching roughly average baseball... that team didn't score at all).

So yeah, he was a big story in NY.


I hear ya.

/though small market teams understood defense pretty well long before the fat $ markets started to catch on
 
2014-05-14 09:51:53 PM
After last season, it's just nice to watch someone put some runs on the board.
 
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