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2014-05-14 09:58:43 AM
Who are these mulls and why do they want to do this? I hear about these mulls all the time, I think they're up to no good.
 
2014-05-14 10:54:44 AM
setting the stage for potential pushback from Governor Jerry Brown

Ya gotta have the pushback.
 
2014-05-14 11:50:21 AM
If there's one thing you can count on convicts for, it's behaving responsibly.
 
2014-05-14 11:53:24 AM
*DING!*
 
2014-05-14 11:54:31 AM
Yeah, because if there's one thing rapey felons have on their mind, it protecting their "partner."
 
2014-05-14 11:56:02 AM
How bout stopping rape instead of condoning it by handing out rubbers. Why not just give them out to the general public for all your raping needs.

/rape arson mayhem and rape
 
2014-05-14 11:58:22 AM

Pants full of macaroni!!: *DING!*


Fries are done.
 
2014-05-14 12:02:48 PM

Cold_Sassy: Yeah, because if there's one thing rapey felons have on their mind, it protecting their "partner."


Not only the rapey felons.  Don't know much about prison culture,  but I'll bet the consensual felons don't either.
 
2014-05-14 12:03:09 PM

Nick Nostril: Pants full of macaroni!!: *DING!*

Fries are done.


But the hot meat between the buns is just getting started.
 
2014-05-14 12:03:35 PM

Gentoolive: How bout stopping rape instead of condoning it by handing out rubbers.


Why not both?
 
2014-05-14 12:20:20 PM

Gentoolive: How bout stopping rape instead of condoning it by handing out rubbers.


Are you also opposed to giving out condoms in schools because it "condones" teen sex?
 
2014-05-14 12:20:47 PM
This is severely farked up
 
2014-05-14 12:21:24 PM

Theaetetus: Gentoolive: How bout stopping rape instead of condoning it by handing out rubbers.

Are you also opposed to giving out condoms in schools because it "condones" teen sex?


I'm all good with condoning teen sex - this is condoning criminal activity that's almost never punished.
 
2014-05-14 12:30:31 PM

moothemagiccow: Theaetetus: Gentoolive: How bout stopping rape instead of condoning it by handing out rubbers.

Are you also opposed to giving out condoms in schools because it "condones" teen sex?

I'm all good with condoning teen sex - this is condoning criminal activity that's almost never punished.


I don't disagree, but there's no denying that it does happen.  It should certainly be punished, but that wouldn't help the victims when it does happen.  When something does happen, mitigating the damage is not a bad thing.  If there's a string of burglaries, a campaign encouraging people to lock their doors at night is not the same as condoning burglary.
 
2014-05-14 12:30:52 PM

Theaetetus: Gentoolive: How bout stopping rape instead of condoning it by handing out rubbers.

Are you also opposed to giving out condoms in schools because it "condones" teen sex?


Not even close to the same issue.  Thanks for playing.
 
2014-05-14 12:34:36 PM

Gentoolive: How bout stopping rape instead of condoning it by handing out rubbers. Why not just give them out to the general public for all your raping needs.

/rape arson mayhem and rape


If the screws can't throw new fish into a cell with fifty sodomy crazed white supremacists/crops/MS13 members, how will they ever teach them not to act up?  They're like horses, you have to break their spirit.
 
2014-05-14 12:35:22 PM
"Crips"...  Lol spell check.
 
2014-05-14 12:36:20 PM

Cold_Sassy: Theaetetus: Gentoolive: How bout stopping rape instead of condoning it by handing out rubbers.

Are you also opposed to giving out condoms in schools because it "condones" teen sex?

Not even close to the same issue.  Thanks for playing.


On the contrary, both deal with cases where the ideal is to prevent the behavior, but in light of the fact that may not be possible, taking steps to limit the harm done is better than nothing.  In this case, I don't think this will actually do any good, but does that mean they shouldn't make the attempt?
 
2014-05-14 12:38:07 PM

Theaetetus: Gentoolive: How bout stopping rape instead of condoning it by handing out rubbers.

Are you also opposed to giving out condoms in schools because it "condones" teen sex?


Apples and oranges. Teenage sex is consensual. (arguments about Age of consent aside)

This is what tape culture really is. Nobody takes the issue of prison rape seriously even though many claim that rape is a horrible crime they willingly look the otherway when it comes to prison rape. Even making crude jokes about it
 
2014-05-14 12:39:15 PM
I am shocked that consensual sex between inmates is a criminal offense in Californicate. Make sex criminal and only criminals will have sex. So hand them condoms and tell them they can't use them. That's top-shelf derp. Jerry Brown was right to veto this stupid law last year.
 
2014-05-14 12:41:39 PM

Gentoolive: How bout stopping rape instead of condoning it by handing out rubbers. Why not just give them out to the general public for all your raping needs.

/rape arson mayhem and rape


You said "rape" three times....plus a bonus "raping."
 
2014-05-14 12:42:47 PM

Last Man on Earth: Cold_Sassy: Theaetetus: Gentoolive: How bout stopping rape instead of condoning it by handing out rubbers.

Are you also opposed to giving out condoms in schools because it "condones" teen sex?

Not even close to the same issue.  Thanks for playing.

On the contrary, both deal with cases where the ideal is to prevent the behavior, but in light of the fact that may not be possible, taking steps to limit the harm done is better than nothing.  In this case, I don't think this will actually do any good, but does that mean they shouldn't make the attempt?


And yet if we suggest that a woman wear something a bit less revealing we are "blaming the victim"
 
2014-05-14 12:47:06 PM
I wouldn't want to catch AIDS while raping someone, or leave a heavy load of DNA.

Just saying....
 
2014-05-14 12:52:50 PM
But prisoners who were polled said that four out of five inmates enjoy a gang rape....
 
2014-05-14 01:01:24 PM

Warlordtrooper: Theaetetus: Gentoolive: How bout stopping rape instead of condoning it by handing out rubbers.

Are you also opposed to giving out condoms in schools because it "condones" teen sex?

Apples and oranges. Teenage sex is consensual. (arguments about Age of consent aside)


Not at all - as noted above by Last Man on Earth, we may not be able to prevent teenage sex, so we give out condoms to mitigate the harm. That doesn't mean we  condone teenage sex.
Similarly, giving out condoms to mitigate the harm of prison rape does not mean that we condone prison rape.

This is what tape culture really is. Nobody takes the issue of prison rape seriously even though many claim that rape is a horrible crime they willingly look the otherway when it comes to prison rape. Even making crude jokes about it

How is giving out condoms to prevent disease transmission "willingly look[ing] the other way"? Wouldn't  not giving out condoms being looking the other way?

And finally, it's odd that you complain about rape culture when your very next post is suggesting that women shouldn't wear sexy clothing.
 
2014-05-14 01:06:28 PM

Warlordtrooper: Last Man on Earth: Cold_Sassy: Theaetetus: Gentoolive: How bout stopping rape instead of condoning it by handing out rubbers.

Are you also opposed to giving out condoms in schools because it "condones" teen sex?

Not even close to the same issue.  Thanks for playing.

On the contrary, both deal with cases where the ideal is to prevent the behavior, but in light of the fact that may not be possible, taking steps to limit the harm done is better than nothing.  In this case, I don't think this will actually do any good, but does that mean they shouldn't make the attempt?

And yet if we suggest that a woman wear something a bit less revealing we are "blaming the victim"


Women don't need a gun for self defense because rapists should stop raping. I was told this by a radical feminist.
 
2014-05-14 01:12:57 PM
First they slapped rubbers on all the porn stars and murdered their bank accounts. Now they're doing the same to prisoners. I got an idea. Give condoms to busybody lawmakers.
 
2014-05-14 01:17:55 PM

Back Alley Proctologist: Warlordtrooper: Last Man on Earth: Cold_Sassy: Theaetetus: Gentoolive: How bout stopping rape instead of condoning it by handing out rubbers.

Are you also opposed to giving out condoms in schools because it "condones" teen sex?

Not even close to the same issue.  Thanks for playing.

On the contrary, both deal with cases where the ideal is to prevent the behavior, but in light of the fact that may not be possible, taking steps to limit the harm done is better than nothing.  In this case, I don't think this will actually do any good, but does that mean they shouldn't make the attempt?

And yet if we suggest that a woman wear something a bit less revealing we are "blaming the victim"

Women don't need a gun for self defense because rapists should stop raping. I was told this by a radical feminist.


i.imgur.com
 
2014-05-14 01:27:12 PM
In the women's ward when they have lesbian rape they scissor each other. LITERALLY
 
2014-05-14 01:30:15 PM
I don't want to interfere with your Oz fan fiction, but prison rape is not nearly as omnipresent as commonly presented.

Consensual (or at least bartered) sexual activity is far easier to get between inmates. That's probably who these condoms are intended for.
 
2014-05-14 01:34:49 PM

Back Alley Proctologist: Women don't need a gun for self defense because rapists should stop raping. I was told this by a radical feminist.


People really should be able to interact with the outside world without threat of deadly force. I don't think that constitutes "radicalism."
 
2014-05-14 01:43:57 PM
If I was a spindly little guy in prison I think I'd be inclined to walk around with a constant turtle head.
 
2014-05-14 01:46:34 PM
Maybe they should distribute porn and fleshlights instead. So they won't make love to every man in the prison and catch those aids and do nothing for the black community!
 
2014-05-14 01:59:50 PM
You know, not to derail from rape jokes, but... I thought prisons already DID give away condoms. At least partially because denying inmates the ability to get condoms sounds like a recipe for lawsuits when someone inevitably gets infected with some sort of ass-cooties.
 
2014-05-14 02:04:35 PM
One of the scariest forms of prison rape takes the form of killing someone from the inside. The offending inmate will often be raped by an individual with serious communicable diseases with the specific intent of transmitting the disease to the victim. It is a very effective management tool prison gangs use to keep people in line. Its like rape rape rape.
 
2014-05-14 02:25:49 PM

Last Man on Earth: moothemagiccow: Theaetetus: Gentoolive: How bout stopping rape instead of condoning it by handing out rubbers.

Are you also opposed to giving out condoms in schools because it "condones" teen sex?

I'm all good with condoning teen sex - this is condoning criminal activity that's almost never punished.

I don't disagree, but there's no denying that it does happen.  It should certainly be punished, but that wouldn't help the victims when it does happen.  When something does happen, mitigating the damage is not a bad thing.  If there's a string of burglaries, a campaign encouraging people to lock their doors at night is not the same as condoning burglary.


Except there might be a spot of trouble getting your rapist to rubber up.

It's closer to leaving the door unlocked and giving out kevlar to citizens so no one gets shot during the burglaries. Don't blame me for that comparison, your analogy sucks.
 
2014-05-14 02:30:01 PM

Back Alley Proctologist: Women don't need a gun for self defense because rapists should stop raping. I was told this by a radical feminist.


.....shouldn't rapists stop raping? Is the potential victim's gun really that much of a defense to someone who knows her and probably knows where she keeps it? The street rapist who attacks the short-skirted hottie is not really a thing.

//sounds like a pretty moderate feminist
//the radicals want castration
 
2014-05-14 02:35:28 PM

Syrrh: You know, not to derail from rape jokes, but... I thought prisons already DID give away condoms. At least partially because denying inmates the ability to get condoms sounds like a recipe for lawsuits when someone inevitably gets infected with some sort of ass-cooties.


Ass-Cooties is the name of my band.
 
2014-05-14 02:44:02 PM

Hickory-smoked: I don't want to interfere with your Oz fan fiction, but prison rape is not nearly as omnipresent as commonly presented.

Consensual (or at least bartered) sexual activity is far easier to get between inmates. That's probably who these condoms are intended for.



"An estimated 80,600 adult inmates-57,900 in prisons and 22,700 in jails-reported experiencing one or more incidents of sexual victimization by another inmate or facility staff during 2011-12."
--Quote from Justice Department's Bureau of Justice Statistics Sexual Victimization in Prisons and Jails Reported by Inmates, 2011-12

That's quite a lot and that's just based on reported cases. I can't find the quote but it was somewhere around less than half were willing to report it at all.  Also, not just men doing the rape.

"Males (8.2 percent) were more likely than females (2.8 percent) to report sexual activity with facility staff, while females (5.4 percent) were more likely than males (2.2 percent) to report forced sexual activity with another youth. More than 90 percent of all youth who reported staff sexual misconduct said they had been victimized by female facility staff. "
--Quote from Justice Department's Bureau of Justice Statistics Sexual Victimization in Juvenile Facilities Reported by Youth, 2012
 
2014-05-14 02:53:35 PM

Hickory-smoked: I don't want to interfere with your Oz fan fiction, but prison rape is not nearly as omnipresent as commonly presented.

Consensual (or at least bartered) sexual activity is far easier to get between inmates. That's probably who these condoms are intended for.


Having some cum in your ass doesn't give you HIV. Your risk skyrockets when you're being violently assaulted because your flesh gets torn and the virus enters your bloodstream (http://www.unodc.org/documents/hiv-aids/EVIDENCE%20FOR%20ACTION%2020 07 %20sexual_transmission.pdf  pg 10). You can't seriously tell me that people's risk of contracting HIV climbs an order of magnitude when they enter prison because of all the consensual sex.

Look at the wildly variant prevalence reported here:  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prison_rape_in_the_United_States#Ramific a tions_and_statistics  

And consider first - do you think a prisoner is going to bother to report an assault of any kind? Do you think if they do, that report's going to be given any merit?

Now let's add in the fact that they're raped. Now add in they're men. Now let's try the possibility they were raped by a guard. Still think it's a cute HBO show?
 
2014-05-14 03:02:02 PM

Warlordtrooper: Theaetetus: Gentoolive: How bout stopping rape instead of condoning it by handing out rubbers.

Are you also opposed to giving out condoms in schools because it "condones" teen sex?

Apples and oranges. Teenage sex is consensual. (arguments about Age of consent aside)

This is what tape culture really is. Nobody takes the issue of prison rape seriously even though many claim that rape is a horrible crime they willingly look the otherway when it comes to prison rape. Even making crude jokes about it


1.) Innocent child gets shot outside of school - Everyone is outraged
2.) Thug who just robbed someone gets shot out of store - Nobody is upset.

When applied to rape and prison rape, the same holds true. Those in prison are not seen as innocent and people by-and-large either don't care about them, or are happy when things like this happen to criminals.
 
2014-05-14 05:15:09 PM
This logic by the same mindset that'll offer a band aid to treat a bad case of being gut shot.
 
2014-05-14 07:49:45 PM

Pants full of macaroni!!: *DING!*


Anal sex and prison rape all in one nifty story? Oh yeah, Tom's jizzing all over the underside of his NAPA Studio desk on this one.
 
2014-05-14 09:55:32 PM
Even better, just cut off all the inmates' dicks. That'll work right? What the hell is wrong with these people?

STOP THE RAPEY
 
2014-05-15 06:32:24 AM
How about oh I don't know.

STOP BREAKING THE LAW!

Goddamn they are all someone's kids, raise your farking kids right.
 
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