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2014-05-14 09:43:19 AM  
3 votes:
I spend most of my time reading stuff people waaay smarter than me write so I'm typically insecure about my intelligence.

Then I'll have a conversation with a coworker who thinks nothing existed before Christianity or doesn't believe that vodka has calories because "you'd see them".

Being smart enough to know I'm a farking dumbass makes me a genius in these parts.
2014-05-14 07:11:06 AM  
3 votes:
Too dumb average to use the Obvious tag, subby?  America is one of the worst places in the world for the illusory superiority variant of the Dunning-Kruger effect.
2014-05-14 07:09:09 AM  
3 votes:
I'm more worried about those who believe their "gut feeling" trumps actual evidence. Oh, wait, they're the same people!
2014-05-14 07:14:34 AM  
2 votes:
I dunno, 55% is pretty close. And I have a college degree, did really well on all the standardized tests, can point out Ubeki-beki-beki-stan-stan on a map, but can't change my oil or literally anything practical, so I'm probably both smarter and dumber than the average American.
2014-05-14 06:04:11 AM  
2 votes:
I think how smart the average American is. Now think about how half the country is dumber than that.

-Rand Paul
2014-05-14 12:35:57 PM  
1 vote:
One of the links in the article makes reference to this paper, with the notable figure below:

scienceblogs.com

Basically, part of being incompetent is not knowing you're incompetent.  Also, dumb people tend to hang around dumb people, and smart people tend to hang around smart people.  In all probability you will be close to your own personal experience of "average", likely without any real knowledge of about how your perceived average actually ranks on a more global scale.
2014-05-14 10:43:21 AM  
1 vote:
My step dad thinks he's a genius, a true modern renaissance man.

He also thinks Obama has issued more executive orders than every President combined ten times over because an email said so.

/what a moran
2014-05-14 10:27:25 AM  
1 vote:

Jim_Callahan: Well, the Tea Party is sort of playing low-end outlier, since they're a good few percent of the population that might be enough to put like 55 to 60% of Americans above the mean by shifting the median a couple relative points to the right.

// Ho, ho, politics jokes


Except it is the democrat party that gets the award for most high school educated or less voters.
2014-05-14 09:00:21 AM  
1 vote:
Hmmm, Farkers can read and remember a password. We ARE smarter than half the population.

I know the IQ measures the things that add up to intelligence, but I wonder if there's a uniform measure of idiocy? You can be a gee-whiz genius, knowing how to find cube roots and be able to recite the works of Shakespeare from memory, but believe the world is 6000 years old and that the ACA is going to kill us all while benefiting from it's reforms.

I ask because I know an extremely farkable woman who can calculate orbital mechanics but is a farking moron seven other ways.
2014-05-14 08:55:50 AM  
1 vote:
A very dumb vocal minority that may or may not be taxed enough already makes it easy to believe this.
2014-05-14 08:21:03 AM  
1 vote:
Just like how all Americans are superior drivers compared to the rest.
2014-05-14 07:36:04 AM  
1 vote:
Blah blah blah, Dunning-Kruger effect, blah blah blah.

That and people tend to judge intelligence by measures flattering to themselves. Someone who is good at math will think intelligence can be measured by solving difficult math problems, someone with good interpersonal skills will think the ability to get people to do what they want obviously demonstrates it.  I've noticed that I, someone with a head full of trivia, tend to think people are smart when they can keep up their end in a conversation about 1970's British horror movies or the history of domestication in South America or the importance of the Duhem-Quine problem in Bayesian reasoning. But that's not intelligence, that's just having a brain that can't forget useless but interesting information.
2014-05-14 07:35:43 AM  
1 vote:
Average is still stupid.
2014-05-14 07:31:36 AM  
1 vote:
55% of Americans could well be smarter than average (mean), if intelligence doesn't follow a Gaussian distribution.
2014-05-14 07:27:42 AM  
1 vote:

vharshyde: Americans are idiots. But then, so is the rest of the populace. On average, we barely have the brain cells to scrape together to tie our own shoes, let alone make decisions for ourselves as they affect our freedom and our survival.

The whole planet is full of morons. Americans are just louder. As always.

Humanity cannot be trusted with its own freedom, it seems.

/Launching the Helicarriers now...
//Zola was right.


Hail Hydra!

/Why does Hydra have a skully-octopus thing for a logo and not a, you know, hydra?
2014-05-14 07:21:26 AM  
1 vote:
Um, 50% of Americans ARE smarter than average.
2014-05-14 07:20:39 AM  
1 vote:
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2014-05-14 07:05:37 AM  
1 vote:
Americans are idiots. But then, so is the rest of the populace. On average, we barely have the brain cells to scrape together to tie our own shoes, let alone make decisions for ourselves as they affect our freedom and our survival.

The whole planet is full of morons. Americans are just louder. As always.

Humanity cannot be trusted with its own freedom, it seems.

/Launching the Helicarriers now...
//Zola was right.
2014-05-14 06:58:06 AM  
1 vote:
Anyone who's read a fark thread should know that.
2014-05-14 06:55:36 AM  
1 vote:
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