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(Summer 2015 Oscar Bait)   Bryce Dallas Howard nearly eaten on set of "Jurassic World" by robot dinosaur. That seems like a spoiler   (nukethefridge.com) divider line 38
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2014-05-14 11:00:53 AM  
Will guns work in this one?
 
2014-05-14 11:13:24 AM  
Now I just want to be a robot dinosaur.

i522.photobucket.com
 
2014-05-14 11:20:28 AM  
What's Fark's verdict? Will this be worth seeing?
 
2014-05-14 11:23:44 AM  
Lucky robot
 
2014-05-14 11:24:09 AM  
I'd give Little Ms. Opie Cunningham Jr. some Happy Days in her Mayberry if you know what I mean...
 
2014-05-14 11:24:17 AM  

cgraves67: What's Fark's verdict? Will this be worth seeing?


It's got friggin' dinosaurs attacking people.  Doesn't matter if it sucks, that alone makes it worth seeing.
 
2014-05-14 11:33:06 AM  
This is why you let ILM handle everything.

/CG never killed anyone
 
2014-05-14 11:38:02 AM  

memtastic: I'd give Little Ms. Opie Cunningham Jr. some Happy Days in her Mayberry if you know what I mean...


Take her to the Diner and have Olive make her a Float?
 
2014-05-14 11:39:14 AM  
nukethefridge.com

They really cut the budget on the effects department for this one.
 
2014-05-14 11:45:16 AM  

memtastic: I'd give Little Ms. Opie Cunningham Jr. some Happy Days in her Mayberry if you know what I mean...


i1.ytimg.com
 
2014-05-14 12:04:54 PM  
I saw whatever Spiderman movie that was on a plane and thought she was really pretty. Now I'm thinking that unless 4 inch standard definition screens make a comeback she should ask her dad how to get into directing.
 
2014-05-14 12:05:39 PM  
I can see the porn version of this movie already, Marie McCray eaten out on set of "Your-ASS-ic World" ...
 
2014-05-14 12:07:17 PM  

memtastic: I'd give Little Ms. Opie Cunningham Jr. some Happy Days in her Mayberry if you know what I mean...


This Cinderella Man would Rush to make a Splash in her Willow Cocoon, or if the Angels & Demons allow, go all Apollo 13 on her Backdraft, if she's not into Parenthood. Because of her Beautiful Mind, of course.
 
2014-05-14 12:36:19 PM  

Trainspotr: memtastic: I'd give Little Ms. Opie Cunningham Jr. some Happy Days in her Mayberry if you know what I mean...

This Cinderella Man would Rush to make a Splash in her Willow Cocoon, or if the Angels & Demons allow, go all Apollo 13 on her Backdraft, if she's not into Parenthood. Because of her Beautiful Mind, of course.


Well done!
 
2014-05-14 12:53:37 PM  

memtastic: I'd give Little Ms. Opie Cunningham Jr. some Happy Days in her Mayberry if you know what I mean...



Holy shiat, I never made the connection that that was his daughter.  Huh.
 
2014-05-14 01:33:41 PM  

Slowdog: memtastic: I'd give Little Ms. Opie Cunningham Jr. some Happy Days in her Mayberry if you know what I mean...


Holy shiat, I never made the connection that that was his daughter.  Huh.


Your handle is appropriate. :-)
 
2014-05-14 02:21:24 PM  

cgraves67: What's Fark's verdict? Will this be worth seeing?


It's a reboot without actually rebooting. Same idea - a park on a tropical island - but with a new corporate entity and a, "This time it'll work, darn it!" earnestness that will lead to the same, predictable result.

But as long as they hit the right notes, I won't mind a repetative tune.
 
2014-05-14 02:22:59 PM  
Slowdog Holy shiat, I never made the connection that that was his daughter.  Huh.

Nepotism explains half the cast of "Girls"
 
2014-05-14 02:42:07 PM  
Awesome, she's hot again!
 
2014-05-14 02:46:26 PM  

verbaltoxin: cgraves67: What's Fark's verdict? Will this be worth seeing?

It's a reboot without actually rebooting. Same idea - a park on a tropical island - but with a new corporate entity and a, "This time it'll work, darn it!" earnestness that will lead to the same, predictable result.

But as long as they hit the right notes, I won't mind a repetative tune.


It's like AC/DC:  Sure, they're a one trick pony, but it's a *REALLY* good trick.
 
2014-05-14 03:37:47 PM  

dittybopper: Will guns work in this one?


No more than they do against the Predators.

(In the non AvP movies, that is. Never seen those)
 
2014-05-14 03:47:36 PM  

dittybopper: Will guns work in this one?


Nope. Most dinosaurs had really heavy duty bones in life, armour plating, were really large, and stuff like that. Some of them could probably get sprayed with bullets and not even notice, and others - as the saying goes - shooting at them will probably just piss them off.

Any explosives would do them though, but the sportsman wouldn't use them. In the distant future, I'd say the goal would be several large calibre precision shots.

I lose sleep to problems such as these...
 
2014-05-14 04:01:47 PM  

Doc Batarang: dittybopper: Will guns work in this one?

Nope. Most dinosaurs had really heavy duty bones in life, armour plating, were really large, and stuff like that. Some of them could probably get sprayed with bullets and not even notice, and others - as the saying goes - shooting at them will probably just piss them off.

Any explosives would do them though, but the sportsman wouldn't use them. In the distant future, I'd say the goal would be several large calibre precision shots.

I lose sleep to problems such as these...


Honey...hand me my Barrett.  There's a damn dinosaur in the garden again I need to shoo away.
 
2014-05-14 04:22:16 PM  

Your_Huckleberry: dittybopper: Will guns work in this one?

No more than they do against the Predators.

(In the non AvP movies, that is. Never seen those)


Actually, they do work against the predators.  The Predator in the original film gets wounded by gunfire and has to use his medical kit to stop the bleeding, as does the one in Predator 2 who suffers numerous buckshot wounds and who gets his hand severed.  In Predators the main predator is severely wounded by the Israeli chick with the sniper rifle (and one is killed by Hanzo with a samurai sword).  And of course the guns are effective against the "dogs" and the creepy-roach alien.

But in none of the Jurassic Park films will you ever see a dinosaur even slightly wounded by a firearm.  It's kind of hinted at at the beginning of the first film, but you don't know because they won't show it.  After that, either the dinosaurs get the jump on the people wielding the guns, or they don't work, or they've been sabotaged, or broken in a crash, or people just plain *MISS*.
 
2014-05-14 04:26:26 PM  

Doc Batarang: Nope. Most dinosaurs had really heavy duty bones in life, armour plating, were really large, and stuff like that. Some of them could probably get sprayed with bullets and not even notice, and others - as the saying goes - shooting at them will probably just piss them off.


The ones you care about because they are dangerous and likely to eat you, the theropods, are much more lightly built than something like an ankylosaur (which would be a problem!).

Think about this:  the velociraptors in the film are approximately human sized.  Certainly, no bigger than some of the big game like bears and the like that people regularly kill with firearms.

Tyrannosaurs are about the size of elephants (weight-wise).  A typical large bore elephant gun would be effective against them.
 
2014-05-14 06:02:13 PM  

dittybopper: Doc Batarang: Nope. Most dinosaurs had really heavy duty bones in life, armour plating, were really large, and stuff like that. Some of them could probably get sprayed with bullets and not even notice, and others - as the saying goes - shooting at them will probably just piss them off.

The ones you care about because they are dangerous and likely to eat you, the theropods, are much more lightly built than something like an ankylosaur (which would be a problem!).

Think about this:  the velociraptors in the film are approximately human sized.  Certainly, no bigger than some of the big game like bears and the like that people regularly kill with firearms.

Tyrannosaurs are about the size of elephants (weight-wise).  A typical large bore elephant gun would be effective against them.


I think you're overly optimistic and I'm overly pessimistic haha!

I think hunting a Tyrannosaurus would be nothing like an elephant, but more like shooting at a front end loader or crane digger and expecting it to "die".

I did however think up how a hunter could bag something like a stegosaurus or ankylosaurus and like dinosaurs. The name of the game is a close up shot right up its...ahem...cloaca. I think a big enough calibre could get enough penetration to hit something that would shock it to death. Of course, it might also just not die right away and walk over and kill you first.

What kind of gun is good for small whales? That would be a good one.
 
2014-05-14 06:58:59 PM  

Nine Hundred and Eight: They really cut the budget on the effects department for this one.


Wow, she makes a damn fine brunette. Prefer her red, obviously, but would not, crackers, etc.
 
2014-05-14 07:06:26 PM  
I would eat her, if you know what I mean.

/I mean cut her up and grill her
 
2014-05-14 08:55:58 PM  

Doc Batarang: I did however think up how a hunter could bag something like a stegosaurus or ankylosaurus and like dinosaurs. The name of the game is a close up shot right up its...ahem...cloaca. I think a big enough calibre could get enough penetration to hit something that would shock it to death. Of course, it might also just not die right away and walk over and kill you first.


Shoot it in the leg.

Remember, they only have two legs, unlike something like a bear or a lion.  And if you make one of those legs lame, on an animal that size, it's going to have a really tough time coming after you.

Ever see the old Howard Hill movie Tembo?  Howard Hill was known for his exploits with the longbow, and he was an amazing shot, but in that movie he puts arrow after arrow into a bull elephant while it just stands there.

That's because a PH (professional hunter) shot it in the leg first.  Elephant can't walk with just 3 good legs, so Howard was able to put arrow after arrow into it without having to worry about getting stomped.

I suspect the same tactic would work against a tyrannosaur or any other large theropod.  You disable one of their two main supports, and they're screwed.
 
2014-05-14 09:39:43 PM  

dittybopper: Doc Batarang: I did however think up how a hunter could bag something like a stegosaurus or ankylosaurus and like dinosaurs. The name of the game is a close up shot right up its...ahem...cloaca. I think a big enough calibre could get enough penetration to hit something that would shock it to death. Of course, it might also just not die right away and walk over and kill you first.

Shoot it in the leg.

Remember, they only have two legs, unlike something like a bear or a lion.  And if you make one of those legs lame, on an animal that size, it's going to have a really tough time coming after you.

Ever see the old Howard Hill movie Tembo?  Howard Hill was known for his exploits with the longbow, and he was an amazing shot, but in that movie he puts arrow after arrow into a bull elephant while it just stands there.

That's because a PH (professional hunter) shot it in the leg first.  Elephant can't walk with just 3 good legs, so Howard was able to put arrow after arrow into it without having to worry about getting stomped.

I suspect the same tactic would work against a tyrannosaur or any other large theropod.  You disable one of their two main supports, and they're screwed.


That would be good, but not if it's coming after you. On a tyrannosaurus, it's heaviest muscles are in it's legs and tail and it's femur and tibia have cortical bone about three to four inches thick. That increases the likelihood of a glancing shot or non-mortal wound and then it eats you. I think we'd have to agree that defence and hunting would go down completely differently and even an armed human's chances are roughly zero.

After getting interested in my own remark, I looked up what is used to hunt whales and they all involve explosives these days. If there was a real dinosaur park, they'd have anti-tank weapons even though that's really inconvenient.
 
2014-05-15 03:13:21 AM  
She did a full frontal nude scene in a film called Manderlay.

I bought the DVD just for that reason.
 
2014-05-15 07:36:50 AM  

Doc Batarang: That would be good, but not if it's coming after you. On a tyrannosaurus, it's heaviest muscles are in it's legs and tail and it's femur and tibia have cortical bone about three to four inches thick. That increases the likelihood of a glancing shot or non-mortal wound and then it eats you. I think we'd have to agree that defence and hunting would go down completely differently and even an armed human's chances are roughly zero.


Bull.  Shooting an elephant in the leg is "non-mortal", in the sense that it won't immediately kill the animal, but it immobilizes it.  That was the whole point of me bringing that up:  Even if you don't mortally wound the animal, if you compromise their ability to move, that gives you many more options.

Also, I don't know where the idea has come up that dinosaurs would be essentially immune to gunfire, but it's *WRONG*.  They are animals.  Living, breathing beings with essentially the same weaknesses as other animals.  Some, like the armored nodosaurs, would be tough for a weapon you could reasonably fire from the shoulder to handle, but theropods are different.

I'm reasonably certain that if you could shoot them with rifles designed for large, thick-skinned dangerous African game, you'd kill them rather handily.  Or, if you want extra insurance, if you load a .50 BMG with blunt-nosed solids, you'd be good to go.
 
2014-05-15 08:56:12 AM  
Are there no grenade launchers in the Jurassic universe? Claymores? Machine guns? How about the ancient predator-killer of pointy things wrapped in fat for the beasty to gobble down and then die from internal bleeding?

Never mind, it's Hollywood. Sense isn't necessary, common other.
 
2014-05-15 09:51:00 AM  

dittybopper: Doc Batarang: That would be good, but not if it's coming after you. On a tyrannosaurus, it's heaviest muscles are in it's legs and tail and it's femur and tibia have cortical bone about three to four inches thick. That increases the likelihood of a glancing shot or non-mortal wound and then it eats you. I think we'd have to agree that defence and hunting would go down completely differently and even an armed human's chances are roughly zero.

Bull.  Shooting an elephant in the leg is "non-mortal", in the sense that it won't immediately kill the animal, but it immobilizes it.  That was the whole point of me bringing that up:  Even if you don't mortally wound the animal, if you compromise their ability to move, that gives you many more options.

Also, I don't know where the idea has come up that dinosaurs would be essentially immune to gunfire, but it's *WRONG*.  They are animals.  Living, breathing beings with essentially the same weaknesses as other animals.  Some, like the armored nodosaurs, would be tough for a weapon you could reasonably fire from the shoulder to handle, but theropods are different.

I'm reasonably certain that if you could shoot them with rifles designed for large, thick-skinned dangerous African game, you'd kill them rather handily.  Or, if you want extra insurance, if you load a .50 BMG with blunt-nosed solids, you'd be good to go.


I have never agreed with you more than I do in this thread. People really seem to underestimate what guns can do and also what future guns in the bring back dinosaur times will be able to do.

I wouldn't go trex hunting with hollowpoints obviously.


Lastly we have no idea of how they would behave, but few apex predators mindlessly slaughter everything they encounter all day long.


Also we have brains. We are the best hunter on the planet and were long before guns.
 
2014-05-15 10:53:29 AM  

Smackledorfer: Also we have brains. We are the best hunter on the planet and were long before guns.


There is not a single animal that we've co-existed with that we haven't been able to kill with basically just our brains, and pointed sticks.

Let that sink in a bit.
 
2014-05-15 11:01:52 AM  

Silverlock: Are there no grenade launchers in the Jurassic universe? Claymores? Machine guns? How about the ancient predator-killer of pointy things wrapped in fat for the beasty to gobble down and then die from internal bleeding?

Never mind, it's Hollywood. Sense isn't necessary, common other.


well, the movieverse of JP has machine guns as the Ingine Mercs carried what looked like M-16s. But they were either killed by Compies, Raptors or the T-Rex couple.

Now in the Bookverse, Muldoon had farking rocket launchers and let those babies fly at the raptors. Wish that scene made it into the movie. And that he survived... best character in the movie.
 
2014-05-15 11:04:34 AM  

Smackledorfer: Lastly we have no idea of how they would behave, but few apex predators mindlessly slaughter everything they encounter all day long.


This is true, somewhat.

Essentially, theropods are early birds.  We can extrapolate what we see from bird behavior today and work back to get a reasonable guess as to their behavior.

The Secretarybird is would be a decent starting point.  It's largely terrestrial, and carnivorous.
 
2014-05-15 07:47:10 PM  

dittybopper: Smackledorfer: Also we have brains. We are the best hunter on the planet and were long before guns.

There is not a single animal that we've co-existed with that we haven't been able to kill with basically just our brains, and pointed sticks.

Let that sink in a bit.


Yeah, you're right. Tactics & technique trumps weapons everytime.
 
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