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(Vox)   Six months after Colorado legalized marijuana, revenue is up and crime is down across the board   (vox.com) divider line 207
    More: Interesting, Denver, Colorado, marijuana legalization, Denver Police Department, property crime, Denver District Attorney, revenues  
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2014-05-14 12:06:47 AM
The horror stories foretold by law enforcement are coming to pass. Overtime and asset forfeitures will plummet!

/Don't blame me if prisons start to empty.
 
2014-05-14 12:16:11 AM
Is the "Obvious" tag busy smoking a joint?

cdn3.vox-cdn.com

Oh man, this should have been a caption contest.
 
2014-05-14 12:23:32 AM
Maybe the cops are all busy getting legal-stoned and, having tasted that sweet, sweet devil weed, were incapable of chasing after criminals?
 
2014-05-14 12:25:48 AM
Sadly, spelling mistakes are way up.
 
2014-05-14 01:11:07 AM

AverageAmericanGuy: Sadly, spelling mistakes are way up.


Isn't is spelt marrijuana
 
2014-05-14 01:21:39 AM

cretinbob: AverageAmericanGuy: Sadly, spelling mistakes are way up.

Isn't is spelt marrijuana


Only if they're gay-married.
 
2014-05-14 01:38:56 AM

Mitch Taylor's Bro: Maybe the cops are all busy getting legal-stoned and, having tasted that sweet, sweet devil weed, were incapable of chasing after criminals?


pretty sure that it is still illegal for cops to do drugs
right?
RIGHT?

THEY should get the death penalty!!!
HAHA HAHAHAHAH

/farking pigs
 
2014-05-14 03:18:22 AM

jaylectricity: cretinbob: AverageAmericanGuy: Sadly, spelling mistakes are way up.

Isn't is spelt marrijuana

Only if they're gay-married.


To an illegal immigrant. "Marry-Juana".
 
2014-05-14 05:19:46 AM

fusillade762: Is the "Obvious" tag busy smoking a joint?

[cdn3.vox-cdn.com image 755x503]

Oh man, this should have been a caption contest.


"You know, up until the moment I put my glasses back on, I was wondering why you had cat turds in jars."
 
2014-05-14 05:21:10 AM

cretinbob: AverageAmericanGuy: Sadly, spelling mistakes are way up.

Isn't is spelt marrijuana


pretty sure it is actually spelled cannabis. but that scary-sounding Spanish word makes me think of doing 5 whole reefers and shooting the littlest hobo.
 
2014-05-14 05:23:25 AM

/Don't blame me if prisons start to empty.


Hahahahah! Fabricating evidence isn't any harder. It's just one more quota after all.

 
2014-05-14 05:25:22 AM
Everybody's too busy getting high and having gay sex.
 
2014-05-14 05:27:17 AM

SpdrJay: Everybody's too busy getting high and having gay sex.


why arent you too?
 
2014-05-14 05:29:27 AM
You know what else is up? Butthurt. If you think people are climate change deniers, just watch the derp as Cop supported super pacs start spreading disinformation more aggressively.
 
2014-05-14 05:32:35 AM
DUH!!!  What I've been saying for years. Remove the money component from drugs and crime goes down.
 
2014-05-14 05:34:19 AM

SquiggsIN: SpdrJay: Everybody's too busy getting high and having gay sex.

why arent you too?


I'm temporarily out of weed and condoms.....
 
2014-05-14 05:39:30 AM

fusillade762: Is the "Obvious" tag busy smoking a joint?

[cdn3.vox-cdn.com image 755x503]

Oh man, this should have been a caption contest.


As a prolific brit stoner, this guy worryingly looks exactly like me, with more hair.
 
2014-05-14 05:40:18 AM
Legalize meth and crack. Also make it free. How long should it take for those sorts to self-correct?
 
2014-05-14 05:41:25 AM

Cpl.D: fusillade762: Is the "Obvious" tag busy smoking a joint?

[cdn3.vox-cdn.com image 755x503]

Oh man, this should have been a caption contest.

"You know, up until the moment I put my glasses back on, I was wondering why you had cat turds in jars."


I'll get you, my pretty, and your little dog, too!
 
2014-05-14 05:41:32 AM

neongoats: You know what else is up? Butthurt. If you think people are climate change deniers, just watch the derp as Cop supported super pacs start spreading disinformation more aggressively.


unfair to target the cops alone.  there is also the private prison industry and the prison guard unions

each has a stake in draconian law enforcement
 
2014-05-14 05:49:46 AM

bindlestiff2600: neongoats: You know what else is up? Butthurt. If you think people are climate change deniers, just watch the derp as Cop supported super pacs start spreading disinformation more aggressively.

unfair to target the cops alone.  there is also the private prison industry and the prison guard unions

each has a stake in draconian law enforcement


.. and prison-avoidance via forced-rehab facilities, the people that run those, prosecutors, judges, court employees, pharm companies, etc.

someone has their hand in the cookie jar at every step from arrest to incarceration/rehab.
 
2014-05-14 05:50:44 AM
Anyone that thinks weed should be illegal is a total moronic coont and should not be taken seriously. End of story.
 
2014-05-14 05:56:04 AM

robohobo: Legalize meth and crack. Also make it free. How long should it take for those sorts to self-correct?


If you give people all the drugs they want, they tend to be more careful or dead in short order. Either way, better all round.
 
2014-05-14 05:58:32 AM
FTFA: "The Denver Police Department's crime data shows that violent crime from January through April dropped by 5.6 percent compared to the same time period last year, and robberies in particular fell by 4.8 percent."

Well duh! Muther rapin' and father rapin' is hard work at the best of times, but it's damn near impossible when you've just hit the bong so hard you've got couch lock.
 
2014-05-14 05:58:56 AM
It's reefer unmadness.
 
Skr
2014-05-14 06:09:17 AM
I find those results heartening. I feared with the Tourism aspect alone, there would have been a higher uptick in crime.
 
2014-05-14 06:11:13 AM
That's just want "THEY" want you to believe!

i.imgur.com
 
2014-05-14 06:16:14 AM

neongoats: You know what else is up? Butthurt. If you think people are climate change deniers, just watch the derp as Cop supported super pacs start spreading disinformation more aggressively.


Hopefully the anti-legalization derpers will be able to tell Mexico from Florida on a map.
 
2014-05-14 06:22:49 AM
and now more dang kids than ever on my lawn!
 
2014-05-14 06:23:51 AM
The only noticeable problem seems to be the revenue shortfall from the marijuana tax - they were expecting a lot more income, which means the state government won't be able to increase spending as much as they were planning.

Oh, well.

Overall, a pretty good win, so far.
 
2014-05-14 06:28:16 AM

SquiggsIN: SpdrJay: Everybody's too busy getting high and having gay sex.

why arent you too?


It makes his eyes water.

/He does get high, though.
 
2014-05-14 06:46:08 AM
No kidding. Any idiot could accurately predict crime going down at least. You take an illegal substance and a bunch of criminals using it illegally, then make said substance legal, turning the former criminals into non-criminals. Crime goes down. Not even really newsworthy. It's like they posted a news story saying "new discovery: adding water to fire puts out the fire."
 
2014-05-14 06:47:49 AM
wait... what?

Dave's not here man
 
2014-05-14 06:49:14 AM

Dirty J1: No kidding. Any idiot could accurately predict crime going down at least. You take an illegal substance and a bunch of criminals using it illegally, then make said substance legal, turning the former criminals into non-criminals. Crime goes down. Not even really newsworthy. It's like they posted a news story saying "new discovery: adding water to fire puts out the fire."


They legalized "violent crime" and "armed robberies"?
 
2014-05-14 06:52:41 AM

Stone Meadow: FTFA: "The Denver Police Department's crime data shows that violent crime from January through April dropped by 5.6 percent compared to the same time period last year, and robberies in particular fell by 4.8 percent."

Well duh! Muther rapin' and father rapin' is hard work at the best of times, but it's damn near impossible when you've just hit the bong so hard you've got couch lock.


But, they could still be litterbugs, right?

/and create a nuisance.
 
2014-05-14 06:56:59 AM

Crass and Jaded Mother Farker: Stone Meadow: FTFA: "The Denver Police Department's crime data shows that violent crime from January through April dropped by 5.6 percent compared to the same time period last year, and robberies in particular fell by 4.8 percent."

Well duh! Muther rapin' and father rapin' is hard work at the best of times, but it's damn near impossible when you've just hit the bong so hard you've got couch lock.

But, they could still be litterbugs, right?

/and create a nuisance.


"Yes, sir, Officer Manning, I cannot tell a lie, I put that envelope under that garbage."
 
2014-05-14 07:00:57 AM
As someone heading to CO in June for a family vacation, I'm OK with this. Evenings in the hot tub are going to be very mellow.
 
2014-05-14 07:03:29 AM
Well, then this will be great news for Florida Sheriff's organizations that are campaigning against medical marijuana and rightfully change their minds, right?

http://tbo.com/news/politics/sheriffs-fight-against-legalized-pot-20 14 0427/

I mean, they couldn't possibly argue with these results.
 
2014-05-14 07:05:15 AM
One big pile of garbage was better than two small ones, so rather than bring that one up we threw ours down...
 
2014-05-14 07:06:32 AM
"Revenue is up"? Looks like the revenue they are talking about is sales of marijuana going up.

Could it be that people are needing more and more of this to feed their addiction, or more people have decided to use since legalization, who would have abstained before. Either way, bad.

/or more likely it's just better weather or more people driving from out of state.
//but it's certainly not something that should be trumpeted as a success by legalization advocates - it's irrelevant.
 
2014-05-14 07:08:14 AM

fusillade762: Is the "Obvious" tag busy smoking a joint?

[cdn3.vox-cdn.com image 755x503]

Oh man, this should have been a caption contest.


Or a photoshop contest. SCREAMS photoshop contest.
 
2014-05-14 07:19:51 AM
are you hearing this, federal government?
I should think that since you are accepting tax from the revenue of this decriminalized plant matter..
that (not myself of course) your employees could stop worrying about random testing for this particular medicine.
I mean, since you have CEOs and members of your board who have admitted use

your personal protection would have a far faster recovery time than use of alcohol to such a state as one would get with a small amount of this common chemical
that means less stress
and more jazz!
 
2014-05-14 07:25:17 AM

doglover: robohobo: Legalize meth and crack. Also make it free. How long should it take for those sorts to self-correct?

If you give people all the drugs they want, they tend to be more careful or dead in short order. Either way, better all round.


Free drugs?
media.chick.com

You're bringing us one step closer to the bleak (yet soon to be glorius in heaven) future as forseen by Mr Chick.
 
2014-05-14 07:27:36 AM

Snarfangel: The horror stories foretold by law enforcement are coming to pass. Overtime and asset forfeitures will plummet!

/Don't blame me if prisons start to empty.



31.media.tumblr.com

i.imgur.com
 
2014-05-14 07:30:09 AM

Hoblit: Well, then this will be great news for Florida Sheriff's organizations that are campaigning against medical marijuana and rightfully change their minds, right?

http://tbo.com/news/politics/sheriffs-fight-against-legalized-pot-20 14 0427/

I mean, they couldn't possibly argue with these results.


wow, that article (the viewpoints of the Sheriffs are so full of fail it's hard to know where to begin...

Their points:

1. "Florida's sheriffs believe that approving broad exceptions to current state and federal law that would allow doctors to authorize use of marijuana for virtually any reason with little regulation will hurt children and families and lead to a lower quality of life for all."

Counterpoint: bullshiat... if that were the case, then we would have widespread alcohol and cigarette abuse well above and beyond what we have now. the fact is that once something is taxed and regulated, there is less abuse because it becomes HARDER to obtain for underage people.

2. "I guess there lot of studies both ways," Gee said, "but if you're going to do something like (legalize marijuana), you should be more thorough about the process. How do you enforce its use and all that?

Counterpoint: well, I guess that is the point... you don't except where underage persons are concerned... just like alcohol and tobacco... if legalized for recreational use that is... if medical only, same way you regulate any other medicine now.

3. Legalizing marijuana comes with significant dangers to Florida youths, the association said. "The legalization of marijuana will make this drug more readily available and easier to obtain by teens, as they would not need parental consent to get a 'physician's certification' for marijuana. With no quality or dosage control, there is nothing in place to prevent these storefront marijuana dispensaries from selling to minors."

Counterpoint: bullshiat... doctors do not give kids scripts for narcotics right now without parental consent, and pharmacies will not dispense to youths either without parental consent (at the time of purchase). In addition, the fact that Marijuana is less dangerous than aspirin begs the question "what do they really fear?", and my hypothesis is the loss of revenue from jailing non-violent offenders only guilty of consuming a substance they don't agree with.

4. "If the amendment was truly about and focused only on medicinal marijuana, like Charlotte's Web, I would not oppose it,'' Nocco said. "However, the real purpose of this amendment is for recreational marijuana to be legalized, which I oppose."

Counterpoint: If he were truly concerned about dangerous substance abuse, then he would focus on... well, you know... dangerous substances... such as alcohol and tobacco... considering they are known to science to be not only more dangerous, but also more addictive from both a physical and psychological standpoint.

5. "What we want to do," she said, "is to get the correct information out there."

Counterpoint: Lets correct that statement to reflect the truth... "What we want to do," she said, "is to get the correct fabrications (propaganda) out there."

Of course the Fark Temperance coalition will jump all over this post and say how pot is actually dangerous and is the devils weed, and how I am too much of a pothead to see it... the only problem with their theory is that I don't consume ANY recreational drugs... legal or illegal.
 
2014-05-14 07:31:07 AM

strapp3r: and now more dang kids than ever on my lawn grass!


FTFY
 
2014-05-14 07:32:01 AM

doglover: robohobo: Legalize meth and crack. Also make it free. How long should it take for those sorts to self-correct?

If you give people all the drugs they want, they tend to be more careful or dead in short order. Either way, better all round.


Except, you know, all the people who get hurt by their self-sestructive behavior. Go to an NAACP meeting and tell them you see no problem with legalizing crack.
 
2014-05-14 07:38:42 AM

Debeo Summa Credo: "Revenue is up"? Looks like the revenue they are talking about is sales of marijuana going up.

Could it be that people are needing more and more of this to feed their addiction, or more people have decided to use since legalization, who would have abstained before. Either way, bad.

/or more likely it's just better weather or more people driving from out of state.
//but it's certainly not something that should be trumpeted as a success by legalization advocates - it's irrelevant.


www.drugwarfacts.org
Just thought I would leave this here for interested parties (no pun intended)... hope you don't mind.
 
2014-05-14 07:40:44 AM

lamecomedian: doglover: robohobo: Legalize meth and crack. Also make it free. How long should it take for those sorts to self-correct?

If you give people all the drugs they want, they tend to be more careful or dead in short order. Either way, better all round.

Except, you know, all the people who get hurt by their self-sestructive behavior. Go to an NAACP meeting and tell them you see no problem with legalizing crack.


because of course since it is unregulated and not taxed it is IMPOSSIBLE to find for all but the most ardent user.

/PROTIP: regulation and taxation of ANY substance inherently makes it more difficult to obtain.
 
2014-05-14 07:42:47 AM

Debeo Summa Credo: "Revenue is up"? Looks like the revenue they are talking about is sales of marijuana going up.


That's derp but I did read they're seriously considering pissing a lot of the tax windfall away on anti-drug advertising and education instead of fixing actual stuff.
 
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