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2014-05-13 09:18:18 PM  
With the exceptions of Peter Davison and Paul McGann, has there ever been a Doctor that wasn't "strange looking"?
 
2014-05-13 09:22:49 PM  
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Knows from "strange looking".
 
2014-05-13 10:28:11 PM  
What do you think, David?

i27.photobucket.com

I tend to disagree, as well.
 
2014-05-13 11:33:19 PM  

FirstNationalBastard: With the exceptions of Peter Davison and Paul McGann, has there ever been a Doctor that wasn't "strange looking"?


Pretty much.  The all had their own unique look to them, which was kind of the point.
 
2014-05-13 11:34:15 PM  
I assumed they were "strange looking" because they were British actors.
 
2014-05-13 11:34:22 PM  

Flappyhead: FirstNationalBastard: With the exceptions of Peter Davison and Paul McGann, has there ever been a Doctor that wasn't "strange looking"?

Pretty much no.  The all had their own unique look to them, which was kind of the point.


FTFM
 
2014-05-13 11:43:39 PM  

Di Atribe: What do you think, David?

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I tend to disagree, as well.



David Tennant was one of Russel T Davies casting choices, along with Christopher Eccleston (and John Barrowman).
 
2014-05-13 11:45:44 PM  
I always thought Matt Smith was really weird looking. He looked like that guy from Deep Space Nine that got taunted by the Ferengi. Like his face was made of wet clay.
 
2014-05-13 11:56:50 PM  

zedcaster: Di Atribe: What do you think, David?

[i27.photobucket.com image 250x128]

I tend to disagree, as well.


David Tennant was one of Russel T Davies casting choices, along with Christopher Eccleston (and John Barrowman).


I did not realize that! So what you're saying is, RTD has great taste in dudes. I'm cool with that.
 
2014-05-13 11:59:17 PM  
Dear Mr. Moffat:

Please take a paper grocery sack, fill it with water, and then pour it out.
Now write your way out of it.
When you think  you've done that, please see come back and tell us what great decisions you've made lately regarding Doctor Who.

Sincerely
-Unlikely
 
2014-05-14 12:06:47 AM  

Truncks1: I always thought Matt Smith was really weird looking. He looked like that guy from Deep Space Nine that got taunted by the Ferengi. Like his face was made of wet clay.


scifi4me.files.wordpress.com
 
2014-05-14 12:18:21 AM  
It's easy to do worse:


nerdsontherocks.com
 
2014-05-14 12:40:52 AM  

unlikely: Dear Mr. Moffat:

Please take a paper grocery sack, fill it with water, and then pour it out.
Now write your way out of it.
When you think  you've done that, please see come back and tell us what great decisions you've made lately regarding Doctor Who.

Sincerely
-Unlikely


It's a soft sci-fi show featuring, by the shows own words, "a madman with a box." It's always operated on fairy-tale logic, and when it comes down to it, badly written Who is better than most stuff you will find on American television, so just get over it already. Just because it started out as a children's show doesn't mean you still have to act like a child.
 
2014-05-14 12:51:04 AM  
Actually Doctor Who started out as a science fiction show that featured some very adult themes. Even going all the way back to the first Doctor, there were stories like The Dalek Master Plan and The Massacre.

The childish fairy tale is just what it has been reduced to now.
 
2014-05-14 01:19:53 AM  
I wished that the doctor could have been different this time. Maybe a woman or a different ethnicity. At least for a season or something. I think Morgan Freeman would have made an awesome doctor.
 
2014-05-14 01:24:10 AM  
They're handsome for people who like to think they're attracted to strange.
 
2014-05-14 01:25:45 AM  

PRIME Supernintendo Chalmers: I wished that the doctor could have been different this time. Maybe a woman or a different ethnicity. At least for a season or something. I think Morgan Freeman would have made an awesome doctor.


I have always wondered why the doctor was always a white guy. Is there a reason, in the show, why it is always a white guy?
 
2014-05-14 01:27:04 AM  

Empty H: PRIME Supernintendo Chalmers: I wished that the doctor could have been different this time. Maybe a woman or a different ethnicity. At least for a season or something. I think Morgan Freeman would have made an awesome doctor.

I have always wondered why the doctor was always a white guy. Is there a reason, in the show, why it is always a white guy?


Not that I know of. Just something different would have been nice.
 
2014-05-14 01:28:55 AM  

unlikely: Dear Mr. Moffat:

Please take a paper grocery sack, fill it with water, and then pour it out.
Now write your way out of it.
When you think  you've done that, please see come back and tell us what great decisions you've made lately regarding Doctor Who.

Sincerely
-Unlikely


i don't think the guy who wrote Blink needs to worry about proving his writing skillz.
 
2014-05-14 01:29:03 AM  
"Strange looking"... Does that mean Benedict Cumberbatch is the next Doctor?
 
2014-05-14 01:34:45 AM  

Gig103: "Strange looking"... Does that mean Benedict Cumberbatch is the next Doctor?


His portrayal of Khan in Star Trek was one of the few decent things about that movie. That being said, it was still only decent and it made me lose my little man crush on him.
 
2014-05-14 01:38:13 AM  

LoneWolf343: unlikely: Dear Mr. Moffat:

Please take a paper grocery sack, fill it with water, and then pour it out.
Now write your way out of it.
When you think  you've done that, please see come back and tell us what great decisions you've made lately regarding Doctor Who.

Sincerely
-Unlikely

It's a soft sci-fi show featuring, by the shows own words, "a madman with a box." It's always operated on fairy-tale logic, and when it comes down to it, badly written Who is better than most stuff you will find on American television, so just get over it already. Just because it started out as a children's show doesn't mean you still have to act like a child.


I'm with unlikely on this one - can't stand to watch dr. Who anymore. Too many plots are resolved with the sonic screwdriver doing something new, or him breaking time travel rules that were supposedly unbreakable. Way too many scenes exist without resolution or without any influence on the plot at all (I'm looking at you, 50th anniversary episode).

The fantastical premise of the show is no excuse for incoherent plots. Frankly, the time-travel probably isn't even the issue for Moffat - several episodes of sherlock suffer from the same problems (scenes go nowhere or have no consequences).
 
2014-05-14 01:59:02 AM  

Gig103: "Strange looking"... Does that mean Benedict Cumberbatch is the next Doctor?


Nope, but Marty Feldman would have been awesome.
 
2014-05-14 02:02:46 AM  
"There's a reason I don't cast Doctor Who stars that are handsome, I like them 'strange looking'", said Steven Moffat, the guy with pubes for hair.
 
2014-05-14 03:12:12 AM  

Rixel: It's easy to do worse:

[nerdsontherocks.com image 723x442]


Are you saying those men are strange looking? George Clooney??
 
2014-05-14 03:14:48 AM  
i59.tinypic.com
 
2014-05-14 03:38:47 AM  

unlikely: Dear Mr. Moffat:

Please take a paper grocery sack, fill it with water, and then pour it out.
Now write your way out of it.
When you think  you've done that, please see come back and tell us what great decisions you've made lately regarding Doctor Who.

Sincerely
-Unlikely


He did great with Coupling. And that was about it.
 
2014-05-14 04:58:17 AM  

SpinStopper: [i59.tinypic.com image 500x724]


I always kinda wondered why when they went back and remastered/farked up everything Anakin got to come back as his younger self, but Yoda, for some reason, stayed old.

Is that just what young whatever-his-species-is all look like, too, and he was just making fun of humans for their vanity and visible aging and shiat with that comment, maybe?
 
Skr
2014-05-14 05:09:24 AM  

Gig103: "Strange looking"... Does that mean Benedict Cumberbatch is the next Doctor?


Came in to say that going by the "strange looking" criteria, Cumberbatch will be the final doctor. A last boss of Doctor Who.
 
2014-05-14 05:54:02 AM  
Just once I'd like to visit a Doctor Who thread that didn't turn into a bunch of whiny fanboys going on about how much the show sucks.

Yeah, I know. "Welcome to Fark".
 
2014-05-14 06:39:16 AM  

Old enough to know better: Just once I'd like to visit a Doctor Who thread that didn't turn into a bunch of whiny fanboys going on about how much the show sucks.

Yeah, I know. "Welcome to Fark".


Yeah, but it gives my ignore button a good workout.
 
2014-05-14 07:04:06 AM  
And I like story arcs to have satisfying conclusions, but here we are.
 
2014-05-14 07:51:54 AM  

aelat: LoneWolf343: unlikely: Dear Mr. Moffat:

Please take a paper grocery sack, fill it with water, and then pour it out.
Now write your way out of it.
When you think  you've done that, please see come back and tell us what great decisions you've made lately regarding Doctor Who.

Sincerely
-Unlikely

It's a soft sci-fi show featuring, by the shows own words, "a madman with a box." It's always operated on fairy-tale logic, and when it comes down to it, badly written Who is better than most stuff you will find on American television, so just get over it already. Just because it started out as a children's show doesn't mean you still have to act like a child.

I'm with unlikely on this one - can't stand to watch dr. Who anymore. Too many plots are resolved with the sonic screwdriver doing something new, or him breaking time travel rules that were supposedly unbreakable. Way too many scenes exist without resolution or without any influence on the plot at all (I'm looking at you, 50th anniversary episode).

The fantastical premise of the show is no excuse for incoherent plots. Frankly, the time-travel probably isn't even the issue for Moffat - several episodes of sherlock suffer from the same problems (scenes go nowhere or have no consequences).


I really liked the first season of Sherlock...just two guys solving mysteries. But then the last two seasons, it started developing "Moffat issues" of running really important side story arcs that MEAN SOMETHING, no matter how ridiculously they fit into an overall impossibly conceived master plan.
 
2014-05-14 08:17:17 AM  

LoneWolf343: unlikely: Dear Mr. Moffat:

Please take a paper grocery sack, fill it with water, and then pour it out.
Now write your way out of it.
When you think  you've done that, please see come back and tell us what great decisions you've made lately regarding Doctor Who.

Sincerely
-Unlikely

It's a soft sci-fi show featuring, by the shows own words, "a madman with a box." It's always operated on fairy-tale logic, and when it comes down to it, badly written Who is better than most stuff you will find on American television, so just get over it already. Just because it started out as a children's show doesn't mean you still have to act like a child.


While this is technically true, my choices are not "watch Doctor Who" or "watch most of American television." They are "watch Doctor Who" or "skip most of American television that is crap and just watch the good stuff, which is better than anything else around including Doctor Who."

Of course, I do both of those things.
 
2014-05-14 08:43:28 AM  

wesmon: Actually Doctor Who started out as a science fiction show that featured some very adult themes. Even going all the way back to the first Doctor, there were stories like The Dalek Master Plan and The Massacre.

The childish fairy tale is just what it has been reduced to now.


A KIDS' science fiction show.

It's still a family show.
 
2014-05-14 08:47:31 AM  

Old enough to know better: Just once I'd like to visit a Doctor Who thread that didn't turn into a bunch of whiny fanboys going on about how much the show sucks.

Yeah, I know. "Welcome to Fark".


Can I join you in that? It seems that the mere mention of 'Doctor Who' or 'Moffat' sets some fanboys to frothing at the mouth.
 
2014-05-14 08:48:41 AM  

bborchar: wesmon: Actually Doctor Who started out as a science fiction show that featured some very adult themes. Even going all the way back to the first Doctor, there were stories like The Dalek Master Plan and The Massacre.

The childish fairy tale is just what it has been reduced to now.

A KIDS' science fiction show.

It's still a family show.



I met the mother of a fifth grader who would not let their kid watch Doctor Who.  It was just not appropriate for them she said.

I'm sure the look I had on my face said more than anything I could have actually verbalized at the moment.
 
2014-05-14 08:49:49 AM  

InfrasonicTom: bborchar: wesmon: Actually Doctor Who started out as a science fiction show that featured some very adult themes. Even going all the way back to the first Doctor, there were stories like The Dalek Master Plan and The Massacre.

The childish fairy tale is just what it has been reduced to now.

A KIDS' science fiction show.

It's still a family show.


I met the mother of a fifth grader who would not let their kid watch Doctor Who.  It was just not appropriate for them she said.

I'm sure the look I had on my face said more than anything I could have actually verbalized at the moment.


I think I started watching at about age 10 or 11, in the Tom Baker years.
 
2014-05-14 08:49:54 AM  

optional: They're handsome for people who like to think they're attracted to strange.


Does that mean you don't believe there may be a segment of the population who are more attracted to people who are not considered "traditionally handsome" or "traditionally pretty"?
Because I would disagree with that.
 
2014-05-14 09:21:04 AM  

lindalouwho: optional: They're handsome for people who like to think they're attracted to strange.

Does that mean you don't believe there may be a segment of the population who are more attracted to people who are not considered "traditionally handsome" or "traditionally pretty"?
Because I would disagree with that.



Let he who has never cast his goo at Ana Gasteyer* also cast the first stone.

*Or, if you prefer outies to innies: Harvey Keitel, Geoffrey Rush, and Don Knotts.
 
2014-05-14 09:34:33 AM  

HopScotchNSoda: lindalouwho: optional: They're handsome for people who like to think they're attracted to strange.

Does that mean you don't believe there may be a segment of the population who are more attracted to people who are not considered "traditionally handsome" or "traditionally pretty"?
Because I would disagree with that.


Let he who has never cast his goo at Ana Gasteyer* also cast the first stone.

*Or, if you prefer outies to innies: Harvey Keitel, Geoffrey Rush, and Don Knotts.


Ooooh, Harvey Keitel!

I'm stealing that "outies to innies" phrase, it's adorable.
 
2014-05-14 10:00:04 AM  

wesmon: Actually Doctor Who started out as a science fiction show that featured some very adult themes. Even going all the way back to the first Doctor, there were stories like The Dalek Master Plan and The Massacre.

The childish fairy tale is just what it has been reduced to now.


Doctor Who was a children's show. It was played during the after school hours on the BBC.
 
2014-05-14 10:03:48 AM  

InfrasonicTom: bborchar: wesmon: Actually Doctor Who started out as a science fiction show that featured some very adult themes. Even going all the way back to the first Doctor, there were stories like The Dalek Master Plan and The Massacre.

The childish fairy tale is just what it has been reduced to now.

A KIDS' science fiction show.

It's still a family show.


I met the mother of a fifth grader who would not let their kid watch Doctor Who.  It was just not appropriate for them she said.

I'm sure the look I had on my face said more than anything I could have actually verbalized at the moment.


My daughter is 5 and she likes watching the non-scary ones. She loves it.
 
2014-05-14 10:05:51 AM  

bulok: wesmon: Actually Doctor Who started out as a science fiction show that featured some very adult themes. Even going all the way back to the first Doctor, there were stories like The Dalek Master Plan and The Massacre.

The childish fairy tale is just what it has been reduced to now.

Doctor Who was a children's show. It was played during the after school hours on the BBC.



They went to school on Saturdays back then in Britain?
 
2014-05-14 10:11:32 AM  

fusillade762: Rixel: It's easy to do worse:

[nerdsontherocks.com image 723x442]

Are you saying those men are strange looking? George Clooney??


As the Batman.....Yes.
 
2014-05-14 10:16:38 AM  

PRIME Supernintendo Chalmers: Empty H: PRIME Supernintendo Chalmers: I wished that the doctor could have been different this time. Maybe a woman or a different ethnicity. At least for a season or something. I think Morgan Freeman would have made an awesome doctor.

I have always wondered why the doctor was always a white guy. Is there a reason, in the show, why it is always a white guy?

Not that I know of. Just something different would have been nice.


MIB3 dealt with the issue of black time travelers. As in there's issues with being black in time.
 
2014-05-14 10:41:37 AM  

unlikely: Dear Mr. Moffat:

Please take a paper grocery sack, fill it with water, and then pour it out.
Now write your way out of it.
When you think  you've done that, please see come back and tell us what great decisions you've made lately regarding Doctor Who.

Sincerely
-Unlikely


Every time there's a new episode my feed/friends list has the same people saying how they hate the show's new direction and Moffat's leadership and will never watch it again...

...right until the next episode where they make the exact same statement.

I'm pretty sure the bean counters at the BBC datamine complaint posts about Moffat - the more they find, the more viewers they know are out there.
 
2014-05-14 10:43:50 AM  

wildcardjack: MIB3 dealt with the issue of black time travelers. As in there's issues with being black in time.


The Doctor routinely travels to alien worlds and nobody is terribly shocked by his appearance. It's not something that they'd need to deal with in the script, especially in the UK where they have a very different history with race than the US. Wait until we get a Doctor of Indian descent.

And Patterson Joseph was on the short-list for the 11th Doctor. That would have been great, but I'd have had to fight the urge to shout out, "That's Numberwang!" every time I saw him on screen.
 
2014-05-14 10:50:21 AM  

Flappyhead: FirstNationalBastard: With the exceptions of Peter Davison and Paul McGann, has there ever been a Doctor that wasn't "strange looking"?

Pretty much.  The all had their own unique look to them, which was kind of the point.


Moffat pretty much believes that everything he has done for Who is completely original and the bestest ideas ever.

\will probably not watch Who again until Moffat leaves
\\stopped with Angels in Manhattan, only reading about it from here on
 
2014-05-14 10:54:54 AM  
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Oh, the show has a strange-looking guy? I never noticed...
 
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