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2014-05-13 07:59:40 PM  
A) Nope. It's a novelty item. No way in hell will that actually take off. I play games so I can sit my ass down. The amount of running you do in one round of some of these games would be enough to say hell no. A battlefield map alone would put some farkers into cardiac arrest. This could maybe work in like a Dave & Busters where you have 16 set up with 8 vs. 8 teams and people pay by the round, but I couldn't see them selling enough home units to justify a big manufacturing run.

B) Whoever he was playing against really sucked. That one dude tried to knife him like 5 times before he turned around and shot the guy.
 
2014-05-13 08:09:26 PM  
Wasn't this, like, exact thing in Disclosure?
 
2014-05-13 08:56:06 PM  

scottydoesntknow: A) Nope. It's a novelty item. No way in hell will that actually take off. I play games so I can sit my ass down. The amount of running you do in one round of some of these games would be enough to say hell no. A battlefield map alone would put some farkers into cardiac arrest. This could maybe work in like a Dave & Busters where you have 16 set up with 8 vs. 8 teams and people pay by the round, but I couldn't see them selling enough home units to justify a big manufacturing run.

B) Whoever he was playing against really sucked. That one dude tried to knife him like 5 times before he turned around and shot the guy.


You sound fat.
 
2014-05-13 09:21:35 PM  

scottydoesntknow: A) Nope. It's a novelty item. No way in hell will that actually take off. I play games so I can sit my ass down.


Ayup. Your average videogamer does not play for exercise.  Hell, I don't think a lot of them would even fit in that treadmill.
 
2014-05-13 09:58:17 PM  

Pokey.Clyde: scottydoesntknow: A) Nope. It's a novelty item. No way in hell will that actually take off. I play games so I can sit my ass down. The amount of running you do in one round of some of these games would be enough to say hell no. A battlefield map alone would put some farkers into cardiac arrest. This could maybe work in like a Dave & Busters where you have 16 set up with 8 vs. 8 teams and people pay by the round, but I couldn't see them selling enough home units to justify a big manufacturing run.

B) Whoever he was playing against really sucked. That one dude tried to knife him like 5 times before he turned around and shot the guy.

You sound fat.


Not at all. If I wanna run and shoot people, I'll play paintball. This is a novelty item. You would find it on the front page of the Christmas Sharper Image catalog. And don't get me wrong, it's definitely cool, but I'm not spending $500 on that, then $2-300 on the Oculus, and then however much one of those guns will cost. I would pay to play a round or two at a gaming place, but other than that, nah.

It would end up sitting there except when someone comes to the house and I'm like "Yea, check this out it's really cool." and they'll play 5 minutes of it and say "Yea that's cool!" and then we go do something else.

It's exercise equipment with a really close screen.
 
2014-05-13 10:56:54 PM  
Very cool, I like the idea. Would be better with specialized games that didn't require as much running as something like counter-strike.

I have to concur on the novelty factor, though, and the price.

It would be cool if someone made an arcade with a whole bunch of these, with specialized game software.
You could even have a harness that suspends you, so you can jump, low-G style.
 
2014-05-13 10:59:19 PM  
Isn't that an incredible handicap versus an opponent pushing a stick forward?

spamdog: Very cool, I like the idea. Would be better with specialized games that didn't require as much running as something like counter-strike.

I have to concur on the novelty factor, though, and the price.

It would be cool if someone made an arcade with a whole bunch of these, with specialized game software.
You could even have a harness that suspends you, so you can jump, low-G style.


You mean laser tag?
 
2014-05-13 10:59:44 PM  
They had something almost exactly like this in some casino/amusement park in Nevada almost 20 years ago. I'll grant you the graphics weren't as good, but it was almost the same exact setup. I don't think it had a treadmill though, just a ring similar to that one that detected when you turned and I think you had to slightly lean on the ring for it to move you forward, and it had the VR headset with graphics similar to what you saw in Lawnmower Man.
 
2014-05-13 11:04:55 PM  
Oculus Rift + serious, first person perspective non cartoony looking mmo = holodeck wet dream
 
2014-05-13 11:09:45 PM  
Cute, but not as intense as full contact racquetball among linebackers.

Srsly, can only do it once a month, gotta let the bruises heal.
 
2014-05-13 11:09:51 PM  

fusillade762: scottydoesntknow: A) Nope. It's a novelty item. No way in hell will that actually take off. I play games so I can sit my ass down.

Ayup. Your average videogamer does not play for exercise.  Hell, I don't think a lot of them would even fit in that treadmill.


the average gamer would probably break the treadmill with pure weight alone
 
2014-05-13 11:11:09 PM  

spamdog: Very cool, I like the idea. Would be better with specialized games that didn't require as much running as something like counter-strike.

I have to concur on the novelty factor, though, and the price.

It would be cool if someone made an arcade with a whole bunch of these, with specialized game software.
You could even have a harness that suspends you, so you can jump, low-G style.


Serious -- if I could get my hands on a trial setup, and could give it a try, along with my teens, and a couple other people, if we thought it was cool, i'd totally set up an arcade for it.

Lots of people poo-pooing about how fat gamers are, but keep in mind that DDR was the most popular game out there for quite some time, and if you walk into a modern day arcade, and you're not in pretty reasonable shape, you're gonna be exhausted by the time you get out.
 
2014-05-13 11:15:00 PM  
PAX east 2014 did one better than that:

http://youtu.be/nGIVMZwj1Q4

http://www.virtusphere.com/

I didn't try it because the line was just to stupid long, but the people in the hamster ball looked like they were having a good time.
 
2014-05-13 11:17:20 PM  
I totally want. I'd drop these last twenty pounds in no time.

/whar are female avatars? Whar??!!!!
 
2014-05-13 11:19:15 PM  

moothemagiccow: You mean laser tag?


Ha! Yes. Pretty much.
Seriously though, you could have a deathmatch in a virtual location, like the London Underground or something.
 
2014-05-13 11:41:53 PM  

Pokey.Clyde: scottydoesntknow: A) Nope. It's a novelty item. No way in hell will that actually take off. I play games so I can sit my ass down. The amount of running you do in one round of some of these games would be enough to say hell no. A battlefield map alone would put some farkers into cardiac arrest. This could maybe work in like a Dave & Busters where you have 16 set up with 8 vs. 8 teams and people pay by the round, but I couldn't see them selling enough home units to justify a big manufacturing run.

B) Whoever he was playing against really sucked. That one dude tried to knife him like 5 times before he turned around and shot the guy.

You sound fat.


...and lacks imagination. I just forced myself to go to the gym to get my fat arse some exercise foie forty minutes at nine pm. You can bet your bottom dollar I would rather do this for an hour ir two instead. So play games to sit your arse fa down, sure, but given a choice between an elliptical starting at fart housewives in spandex and this? I'll take this.
 
2014-05-13 11:42:38 PM  
Damn autocorrect. Staring at fat housewives.
 
2014-05-14 12:12:44 AM  

Dingleberry Dickwad: They had something almost exactly like this in some casino/amusement park in Nevada almost 20 years ago. I'll grant you the graphics weren't as good, but it was almost the same exact setup. I don't think it had a treadmill though, just a ring similar to that one that detected when you turned and I think you had to slightly lean on the ring for it to move you forward, and it had the VR headset with graphics similar to what you saw in Lawnmower Man.


I remember a game like that about 20 years ago in Dave & Buster's in Houston.  You had to wear this gigantic headpiece for the blocky virtual reality and wear a belt while standing in the waist-high ring.  The belt/ring combo detected your orientation and i think you could even squat to duck.  You held a gun controller that would shoot a very slow projectile when you pulled the trigger, and a button on the back of the gun moved you forward.  I had a blast in there, but the latency was horrible and it was an extremely slow paced game.

That reminds me, around the same time there was an arcade at a mall in Houston that had a Mechwarrior style game where they had 8 cockpits fully decked out with a joystick, throttle lever, multiple monitors and a bunch of blinky buttons that all did stuff.  100x more fun and no headgear necessary.

Anyway, what were we talking about?  Oh yeah, if all the parts to this makes it to market I'd probably go for it. I intend to get the Oculus when the consumer version is out anyway. Sure, the treadmill would probably collect dust most of the time, but I think it'd be pretty damn cool.
 
2014-05-14 12:13:51 AM  
It's awesome that this exists, and it's  a step forward (pun intended).  But it doesn't seem to allow for the same speed of movement or variety of movement options.  He's moving slowly, and doing nothing but turning and walking.

Plus, I'm willing to bet that thing chafes like a biatch.

This could be a step towards things like a Star Trek Holodeck.  The problem with that type of goal, however, is that it's limited by the user's physical capabilities.  I prefer to hope we're moving towards sensors that pick up signals from the brain (there are numerous such projects in progress), which allow for VR without being limited by physical capabilities.
 
2014-05-14 12:14:56 AM  

scottydoesntknow: A) Nope. It's a novelty item. No way in hell will that actually take off. I play games so I can sit my ass down. The amount of running you do in one round of some of these games would be enough to say hell no. A battlefield map alone would put some farkers into cardiac arrest. This could maybe work in like a Dave & Busters where you have 16 set up with 8 vs. 8 teams and people pay by the round, but I couldn't see them selling enough home units to justify a big manufacturing run.



Well, I'm already getting a rift whenever they release a commercial version so I can fly around in Star Citizen. A treadmill or some other piece of fitness equipment for my home can easily cost $700 - $1000....... and it would pretty much sit there collecting dust. THIS I would actually use, I like first person shooters. I could burn some serious calories on that thing after a couple hours of gaming for roughly half the price of actual fitness equipment.

Of course, my wife might kill me after listening to me jump around in it like a jackass every day for an hour or two.

B) Whoever he was playing against really sucked. That one dude tried to knife him like 5 times before he turned around and shot the guy.

Nah, that's just Counter-Strike for ya. If you don't get a good clean hit right off the bat, or the guy is full on health, sometimes you two end up dancing around flailing/shooting wildly at each other at close range as you each over-compensate in different directions while also trying to dodge and fight back.
 
2014-05-14 12:30:59 AM  
Just use a treadmill with the occulus....It would be only one dimension, but couple that with a joystick or something and I think gamers would figure it out.  Would be hilarious watching someone get used to it.  Like a drunk getting into a hammock.
 
2014-05-14 12:52:20 AM  

ingrown: Dingleberry Dickwad: They had something almost exactly like this in some casino/amusement park in Nevada almost 20 years ago. I'll grant you the graphics weren't as good, but it was almost the same exact setup. I don't think it had a treadmill though, just a ring similar to that one that detected when you turned and I think you had to slightly lean on the ring for it to move you forward, and it had the VR headset with graphics similar to what you saw in Lawnmower Man.

I remember a game like that about 20 years ago in Dave & Buster's in Houston.  You had to wear this gigantic headpiece for the blocky virtual reality and wear a belt while standing in the waist-high ring.  The belt/ring combo detected your orientation and i think you could even squat to duck.  You held a gun controller that would shoot a very slow projectile when you pulled the trigger, and a button on the back of the gun moved you forward.  I had a blast in there, but the latency was horrible and it was an extremely slow paced game.

That reminds me, around the same time there was an arcade at a mall in Houston that had a Mechwarrior style game where they had 8 cockpits fully decked out with a joystick, throttle lever, multiple monitors and a bunch of blinky buttons that all did stuff.  100x more fun and no headgear necessary.

Anyway, what were we talking about?  Oh yeah, if all the parts to this makes it to market I'd probably go for it. I intend to get the Oculus when the consumer version is out anyway. Sure, the treadmill would probably collect dust most of the time, but I think it'd be pretty damn cool.


That's it! I remembered some of the details wrong, but when you mentioned the bit about pushing a button on the gun to move it came flooding back. I don't think it was a Dave and Buster's that I was at though since the place had a roller coaster as well. I remembered playing that thinking "Holy shiat when this thing gets updated in 5-10 years it'll be awesome!" and then... nothing until recently with the oculus stuff. I remember about that time frame VR headsets were pretty popular in movies as well.
 
2014-05-14 01:09:10 AM  

rga184: Damn autocorrect. Staring at fat housewives.


'Twas funnier the first way.
 
2014-05-14 01:35:59 AM  

rga184: Pokey.Clyde: scottydoesntknow: A) Nope. It's a novelty item. No way in hell will that actually take off. I play games so I can sit my ass down. The amount of running you do in one round of some of these games would be enough to say hell no. A battlefield map alone would put some farkers into cardiac arrest. This could maybe work in like a Dave & Busters where you have 16 set up with 8 vs. 8 teams and people pay by the round, but I couldn't see them selling enough home units to justify a big manufacturing run.

B) Whoever he was playing against really sucked. That one dude tried to knife him like 5 times before he turned around and shot the guy.

You sound fat.

...and lacks imagination. I just forced myself to go to the gym to get my fat arse some exercise foie forty minutes at nine pm. You can bet your bottom dollar I would rather do this for an hour ir two instead. So play games to sit your arse fa down, sure, but given a choice between an elliptical starting at fart housewives in spandex and this? I'll take this.


So much this. I'm a pretty heavy guy, but this looks like a blast. There's no question I'd spend more time doing this than running on a treadmill watching headline news at the work gym. And as for lacking imagination? Darn tootin. Going for walks frequently is great excersize, but I get bored pretty quickly of looking at the same exact scenery all the time. Plus in Ohio and I'm sure in a lot of other places, the weather is too crummy to have a reliable walking schedule. Put this in the basement, load up a virtual map of whatever park you like. Real or make them up. It'd be a huge money maker for gyms.
 
2014-05-14 01:50:44 AM  
crypticphilosopher.com
 
2014-05-14 02:51:18 AM  
I just want the latest technology to play a really old game
 
2014-05-14 04:29:36 AM  

scottydoesntknow: A) Nope. It's a novelty item. No way in hell will that actually take off. I play games so I can sit my ass down. The amount of running you do in one round of some of these games would be enough to say hell no. A battlefield map alone would put some farkers into cardiac arrest. This could maybe work in like a Dave & Busters where you have 16 set up with 8 vs. 8 teams and people pay by the round, but I couldn't see them selling enough home units to justify a big manufacturing run.

B) Whoever he was playing against really sucked. That one dude tried to knife him like 5 times before he turned around and shot the guy.


Whilst I agree with you for the most part, I'd argue that it probably has enough of a world market for it to become something rather than just novelty (after all, arent consoles just that?). I also think you underestimate the number of (perma)single middle-income dudes exist that can (and frequently do), justify this level of expenditure on their 'hobby'. They just may have to sell their individually numbered 99.999% GPLatinum-plated DS9 dinnerware set to afford it.

I agree with others - there's some arcade-venture out there that will set up franchise-owned business models for team battles. The fact that it's not tied to one game/gamehouse should make it pretty tempting tech to invest in.

So, I'm gonna go with: This has the potential to sell, as it's already wetting pants of gaming dorks by the thousand. Dorks with money. Tasty, tasty dork loot.

/I want it for BL3, Fallout 4, Portal 3.
 
2014-05-14 04:56:25 AM  
Wasn't this on Shark Tank and nobody bought in?
 
Skr
2014-05-14 05:00:37 AM  
Sounds like a cool additional piece of equipment for the gamer lounges. Few of these together, along with the standard consoles & couches in various rooms.
 
2014-05-14 06:01:44 AM  
It's going to be hilarious to watch a 350 pounder try and fit in that thing. Especially when he knocks it over while trying to lean on the railing.
 
2014-05-14 07:25:37 AM  
If I had a flat big enough to accommodate it, and the money to spend on something so unimportant, I would. It looks like it makes games much more fun and involved. I want immersion and reality, I don't want to be sat on the sofa twiddling my fingers.

Even for a game of a wholly different type, like Football Manager, you could still make it work. Imagine being immersed in the world, walking from offices to training rooms, running up and down the touchline getting animated, watching the game from that vantage point, rather than a TV view. Or a game like Crusader Kings, actually being the character, immersed in the world. Leading your troops in a Mount and Blade style battle.

Every game I play I wish I was more immersed. This is a nice first step. Emphasis on the "first".
 
2014-05-14 07:38:17 AM  

scottydoesntknow: Pokey.Clyde: scottydoesntknow: A) Nope. It's a novelty item. No way in hell will that actually take off. I play games so I can sit my ass down. The amount of running you do in one round of some of these games would be enough to say hell no. A battlefield map alone would put some farkers into cardiac arrest. This could maybe work in like a Dave & Busters where you have 16 set up with 8 vs. 8 teams and people pay by the round, but I couldn't see them selling enough home units to justify a big manufacturing run.

B) Whoever he was playing against really sucked. That one dude tried to knife him like 5 times before he turned around and shot the guy.

You sound fat.

Not at all. If I wanna run and shoot people, I'll play paintball. This is a novelty item. You would find it on the front page of the Christmas Sharper Image catalog. And don't get me wrong, it's definitely cool, but I'm not spending $500 on that, then $2-300 on the Oculus, and then however much one of those guns will cost. I would pay to play a round or two at a gaming place, but other than that, nah.

It would end up sitting there except when someone comes to the house and I'm like "Yea, check this out it's really cool." and they'll play 5 minutes of it and say "Yea that's cool!" and then we go do something else.

It's exercise equipment with a really close screen.


Break down a realistic picture of what it takes to play paintball on a regular basis and then tell me this rig would be more expensive than that.  For the couple-times-a-year paintball player, you may have a point, but it wouldn't take long to rack up a bill much higher than this gaming rig.
 
2014-05-14 08:08:15 AM  
It's not a "treadmill".  It's a plastic dish and slippery shoes.
It's a cool idea, and I hope a lot of people get one and enjoy it, but I won't buy one.
It's easy enough to make at home, so I'll do that.

/Might just be me though.
// Also have a SimPit and a bridge simulator.
 
2014-05-14 08:24:47 AM  

ds615: It's not a "treadmill".  It's a plastic dish and slippery shoes.
It's a cool idea, and I hope a lot of people get one and enjoy it, but I won't buy one.
It's easy enough to make at home, so I'll do that.

/Might just be me though.
// Also have a SimPit and a bridge simulator.


Wouldn't an Oculus rift be better than multiple screens in a SimPit? Even with multiple screens you might still catch a glimpse of something in the room that'll bring you back to the real world. You want to be fully immersed with no distractions, surely?
 
2014-05-14 08:50:26 AM  
Great, now we'll have to actually bend down, turn around, and pick a bale of cotton in Farmville.
 
2014-05-14 09:14:46 AM  
I see stupid people still believe that "average gamer = 300lb loser in basement" instead of "average person".
 
2014-05-14 09:50:58 AM  

nocturnal001: I see stupid people still believe that "average gamer = 300lb loser in basement" instead of "average person".


We're talking about the average gamer that would buy the ridiculous getup in the article.

Calm down. We all know you're down to 250. congradulations.
 
2014-05-14 09:53:54 AM  

nocturnal001: I see stupid people still believe that "average gamer = 300lb loser in basement" instead of "average person".


Would your average gamer even fit in a basement?  Ha, the humor.
 
2014-05-14 10:41:59 AM  

fluffy2097: nocturnal001: I see stupid people still believe that "average gamer = 300lb loser in basement" instead of "average person".

We're talking about the average gamer that would buy the ridiculous getup in the article.

Calm down. We all know you're down to 250. congradulations.



Very clever.

Of course I'm not "a gamer" and odds are in bunch better shape than you, but yeah, clever.
 
2014-05-14 10:55:06 AM  
This is the first draft of a setup like this geared toward gaming.  Expect it to get better, considering that the oculus rift headset has serious investment. It makes sense that this is the next step.

I didn't see that guy wearing surround sound headphones, but that would be awesome.  Looks like he needs a faster computer, too, with all the frame-lag.
 
2014-05-14 11:01:58 AM  
i1.ytimg.com
 
2014-05-14 11:42:39 AM  
 
2014-05-14 12:02:56 PM  

rga184: Pokey.Clyde: scottydoesntknow: A) Nope. It's a novelty item. No way in hell will that actually take off. I play games so I can sit my ass down. The amount of running you do in one round of some of these games would be enough to say hell no. A battlefield map alone would put some farkers into cardiac arrest. This could maybe work in like a Dave & Busters where you have 16 set up with 8 vs. 8 teams and people pay by the round, but I couldn't see them selling enough home units to justify a big manufacturing run.

B) Whoever he was playing against really sucked. That one dude tried to knife him like 5 times before he turned around and shot the guy.

You sound fat.

...and lacks imagination. I just forced myself to go to the gym to get my fat arse some exercise foie forty minutes at nine pm. You can bet your bottom dollar I would rather do this for an hour ir two instead. So play games to sit your arse fa down, sure, but given a choice between an elliptical starting at fart housewives in spandex and this? I'll take this.


This
 
2014-05-14 12:56:08 PM  

Lumbar Puncture: Would your average gamer even fit in a basement? Ha, the humor.


I thought the meme was that the average gamer was a 13 year old boy with a foul mouth.

// I've only ever heard the "fat" gamer cliche applied to players of WoW and other MMORPGs.

// And starcraft players where the ones who were all tweaked up on caffeine.
 
2014-05-14 02:42:56 PM  

scottydoesntknow: Pokey.Clyde: scottydoesntknow: A) Nope. It's a novelty item. No way in hell will that actually take off. I play games so I can sit my ass down. The amount of running you do in one round of some of these games would be enough to say hell no. A battlefield map alone would put some farkers into cardiac arrest. This could maybe work in like a Dave & Busters where you have 16 set up with 8 vs. 8 teams and people pay by the round, but I couldn't see them selling enough home units to justify a big manufacturing run.

B) Whoever he was playing against really sucked. That one dude tried to knife him like 5 times before he turned around and shot the guy.

You sound fat.

Not at all. If I wanna run and shoot people, I'll play paintball. This is a novelty item. You would find it on the front page of the Christmas Sharper Image catalog. And don't get me wrong, it's definitely cool, but I'm not spending $500 on that, then $2-300 on the Oculus, and then however much one of those guns will cost. I would pay to play a round or two at a gaming place, but other than that, nah.

It would end up sitting there except when someone comes to the house and I'm like "Yea, check this out it's really cool." and they'll play 5 minutes of it and say "Yea that's cool!" and then we go do something else.

It's exercise equipment with a really close screen.


This is true. The PC Master race is abnormally fat and lazy.
 
2014-05-14 03:03:21 PM  
I kickstarted the Virtuix omni
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1944625487/omni-move-naturally- in -your-favorite-game


https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/89577853/stem-system-the-best-w ay -to-interact-with-virtual
and the Sixsense system to go with the Rift.

This is what I am replacing boring treadmill time at my gym with. Why spend 30 min bored out of my mind on a treadmill when I can explore an alien world ?
 
2014-05-14 03:21:57 PM  
Is the big deal that it's more affordable for the home market, or is everyone in the press so young now that they forget or never saw the VR of the 90s?  I would've loved this stuff back then.  Well, briefly...knees have been shot since I was 15 and I've developed arthritis in the past 20.  I'll stick to gaming in my recliner.
 
2014-05-14 03:47:28 PM  

nocturnal001: fluffy2097: nocturnal001: I see stupid people still believe that "average gamer = 300lb loser in basement" instead of "average person".

We're talking about the average gamer that would buy the ridiculous getup in the article.

Calm down. We all know you're down to 250. congradulations.


Very clever.

Of course I'm not "a gamer" and odds are in bunch better shape than you, but yeah, clever.


Don't be so sensitive.
 
2014-05-14 03:50:02 PM  

Zombie Eater: or is everyone in the press so young now that they forget or never saw the VR of the 90s?


Yeah, and people trying to make better aircraft in the 1950s were held back by people saying "didn't you see planes in the 1910s?"

What kind of argument is that? Technology has progressed. VR in the 90s was shiat. Who cares? Move on.
 
2014-05-14 04:25:50 PM  

Slaxl: nocturnal001: fluffy2097: nocturnal001: I see stupid people still believe that "average gamer = 300lb loser in basement" instead of "average person".

We're talking about the average gamer that would buy the ridiculous getup in the article.

Calm down. We all know you're down to 250. congradulations.


Very clever.

Of course I'm not "a gamer" and odds are in bunch better shape than you, but yeah, clever.

Don't be so sensitive.


I just don't like stupid jokes.
 
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