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(New York Daily News)   New overwhelming DNA evidence will not get this rapist to prison for brutal 1991 rape. Because Florida. That and the statute of limitations on the case has passed   (nydailynews.com) divider line 64
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2014-05-13 03:49:48 PM
The rapist William Google, of Jacksonville does live in Florida and if the victim happened to visit the area and it being Florida she carried a gun and by random chance ran into her rapist and recognized him and shot and killed him out of the fear of just seeing him and her thought he was going to try again I wonder if she would even be charged. I would hope not.
 
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2014-05-13 03:53:21 PM

eurotrader: The rapist William Google, of Jacksonville does live in Florida and if the victim happened to visit the area and it being Florida she carried a gun and by random chance ran into her rapist and recognized him and shot and killed him out of the fear of just seeing him and her thought he was going to try again I wonder if she would even be charged. I would hope not.


After looking at the picture of the guy I am pretty sure the answer is "no".
 
2014-05-13 04:03:28 PM
Glenn Beck?
 
2014-05-13 04:12:15 PM
So, Google won't face prosecution for rape?

I know there is a good joke headline in there somewhere, but someone smarter and witter than I will have to find it.
 
2014-05-13 04:33:23 PM

eurotrader: The rapist William Google, of Jacksonville does live in Florida and if the victim happened to visit the area and it being Florida she carried a gun and by random chance ran into her rapist and recognized him and shot and killed him out of the fear of just seeing him and her thought he was going to try again I wonder if she would even be charged. I would hope not.


For self defense to apply, fear must be reasonable. Your hypothetical would be akin to the guy who shot the black teen outside his house because he had been robbed in the past.
 
2014-05-13 04:49:00 PM

eurotrader: I would hope not.


Uh, I would!
I'm sorry she went through what she did, but that shouldn't be a justification for murder.

You're a sick fark.
 
2014-05-13 04:50:05 PM
Because Florida is the only state with statutes of limitation
 
2014-05-13 05:22:56 PM

Honest Bender: eurotrader: I would hope not.

Uh, I would!
I'm sorry she went through what she did, but that shouldn't be a justification for murder.

You're a sick fark.



Sounds like it the idea of justice served later frightens you. Did you do something that you should have not over 7 years ago? The state cannot take a life for an act of kidnaping and rape but a victim has the right to defend themselves and use deadly force and fear for their own life is something I believe the statue has means in a person's own mind and not  what a reasonable person would believe. The state failed the woman and if karma allowed her to find justice in her own time and without provable premeditation all the better.
 
2014-05-13 05:23:23 PM
His last name is GOOGLE?    GOOGLE?
 
2014-05-13 05:24:11 PM

cretinbob: Because Florida is the only state with statutes of limitation


It's not even FL, he just lives here, the charges, and dismissal of them, came from MI.
 
2014-05-13 06:32:16 PM

eurotrader: Sounds like it the idea of justice served later frightens you.


Sounds like the idea of a society run by the rule of law frightens you. America's legal system is a steaming pile of dog shiat and so crooked Escher couldn't draw it properly, but it is A legal system of sorts and keeps the anarchy at bay.

Your dream is apparently anarchy without due process. That's basically Mad Max stuff.
madmaxcostumes.com

It would quickly spiral out of control in to a series of faction wars. If you think gang rape in the singular is bad, wait until a rival faction goes all Saltpens on your family because they happened to be living in a disputed area. That's what used to happen to people, and why we formed nations in the first place.
 
2014-05-13 08:00:50 PM

cannotsuggestaname: So, Google won't face prosecution for rape?

I know there is a good joke headline in there somewhere, but someone smarter and witter than I will have to find it.


She got Googled.

/not funny I know.

These prosecutors really need to get their sh*t together and have all evidence in order and accounted for. Not just this case.
 
2014-05-13 08:27:58 PM

JoieD'Zen:

She got Googled.


I am going straight to hell with you.
 
2014-05-13 08:28:15 PM
There's a reason the statute of limitations exists. Also, if he did it once; he probably did it again. Just find similar cases.
 
2014-05-13 08:31:10 PM

netizencain: His last name is GOOGLE?    GOOGLE?


And subby can't work that into the headline???

/shakes head in despair at younger generation
 
2014-05-13 08:31:23 PM
when DNA taken from Google following a felony conviction for failure to pay child support

Seriously, not only a felony, but DNA testing, because he's a deadbeat dad?  When and where did civil issues become full-blown criminal cases?

/Oh and google Google, I'm sure you'll find some results
 
2014-05-13 08:32:38 PM
In Florida's defense:

www.hrwiki.org
 
2014-05-13 08:34:15 PM
So that must make him a G-male

/*boo, hssss*
 
2014-05-13 08:35:10 PM
Statue of limitations is bullshiat. If it wasn't for the fact he got caught and DNA tested, he would of never been found. There should be no such thing as statue of limitations, he raped and got away with it. Yet someone could not return library books and 30 years later be charged with it?
Why do we even have a legal system again?
 
2014-05-13 08:35:21 PM
"In 1991, the statute of limitations on rape was six years. That means you had to bring charges within six years," Gilbert told the Daily News. "It would have run in 1997."

Whew...thanks for mathing that for us, Gilbert!
 
2014-05-13 08:36:09 PM

jebusfreak: when DNA taken from Google following a felony conviction for failure to pay child support

Seriously, not only a felony, but DNA testing, because he's a deadbeat dad?  When and where did civil issues become full-blown criminal cases?

/Oh and google Google, I'm sure you'll find some results


He actually has a pretty fortuitous name for this to not hang around him for long.  If you google William Google you don't get any hits for him on the first page.  If you google William Google Rape you get a few hits for the story, but most are for William Shakespeare's The Rape of Lucrece.
 
2014-05-13 08:37:55 PM

TuteTibiImperes: cretinbob: Because Florida is the only state with statutes of limitation

It's not even FL, he just lives here, the charges, and dismissal of them, came from MI.


This should be reiterated for dumb-mitter and anyone who doesnt bother to read the article.
 
2014-05-13 08:42:01 PM
23 years ago, get over it.
 
2014-05-13 08:47:05 PM

jebusfreak: when DNA taken from Google following a felony conviction for failure to pay child support

Seriously, not only a felony, but DNA testing, because he's a deadbeat dad?  When and where did civil issues become full-blown criminal cases?

/Oh and google Google, I'm sure you'll find some results


Because welfare. Seriously, ' Deadbeat Dads' was one of those dogwhistle words back in the 80s. Does Limbaugh archive his shows back that far?
 
2014-05-13 08:47:15 PM

AttawaYawattA: 23 years ago, get over it.


To be fair, it doesn't sound like she got pregnant during the ordeal, so it was probably rape rape.
 
2014-05-13 08:50:37 PM
But if/when an innocent man is convicted and the DNA evidence clears him, oh you damn well better expect the Powers That Be will fight to keep him in a cage, because flags, crying eagles, and Jesus with an AR-15
 
2014-05-13 08:51:04 PM

cretinbob: Because Florida is the only state with statutes of limitation


Shhh, you'll confuse Submitard.
 
2014-05-13 09:00:33 PM

ecmoRandomNumbers: Glenn Beck?


If he's safe from prosecution, why doesn't he just admit he did it and clear the air? Why won't he give that girl's parents closure?
I'm just asking questions!
 
2014-05-13 09:01:03 PM

Misconduc: Statue of limitations is bullshiat. If it wasn't for the fact he got caught and DNA tested, he would of never been found. There should be no such thing as statue of limitations, he raped and got away with it.


According to him, it was consensual sex.

How do you prove, beyond a reasonable doubt, that sexual intercourse 23 years ago wasn't consensual?  That's why the statue of limitations existed.
 
2014-05-13 09:02:17 PM

jebusfreak: when DNA taken from Google following a felony conviction for failure to pay child support

Seriously, not only a felony, but DNA testing, because he's a deadbeat dad?  When and where did civil issues become full-blown criminal cases?

/Oh and google Google, I'm sure you'll find some results


A coworker got nailed for this.  I am in favor of paying for your kids and all that, but god damn is that system farking stupid and does it screw the poor.  Guy was out in the middle of a work day (on work related stuff) in his personal car.  Cops ran his plate, saw an out of state warrant, so they pull him over and take him into custody.  He sits for days while they extradite him, then sit there waiting arraignment, has to get bailed out and travel back home.  Think it took about two weeks for him to be able to work again.  After that he had these stupid farking classes that you have to take a few times a week between like 11am and 1pm that pretty much fark you over hard on your work schedule.

Its like someone really sat around and said 'oh how can we get people who can't afford to pay their child support to pay it?' someone else piped up 'Oh I know lets make sure we fark up their shiat enough that they get fired and make it damn near impossible for them to hold employment after'.  The first guy goes 'Brilliant!  also lets tack on thousands of legal fees that they have no chance in hell of being able to pay'.

Like I said pay for your kids as best as possible, but the way that stuff is setup really seems to kick folks when they are down.
 
2014-05-13 09:02:20 PM

mjjt: netizencain: His last name is GOOGLE?    GOOGLE?

And subby can't work that into the headline???

/shakes head in despair at younger generation


*Silent demerits to the mods for not waiting for better headline.
 
2014-05-13 09:05:17 PM
Civil Court remedy?
 
2014-05-13 09:06:03 PM
Bailiff ! Whack his pee pee
 
2014-05-13 09:06:48 PM
yes subby, that's how the system works  You cannot just hang the threat of prosecution over someones head for the rest of their life.  As time goes on, the likelyhood that the person receives a fair trial decreases.  That's why statue of limitations exist in the First place.

So one bad guy avoids jail,  This is still 100 times better than an innocent man being convicted and if this is the small price we pay to ensure we maintain our Constitutional rights then so be it.
 
2014-05-13 09:08:29 PM

ArkAngel: eurotrader: The rapist William Google, of Jacksonville does live in Florida and if the victim happened to visit the area and it being Florida she carried a gun and by random chance ran into her rapist and recognized him and shot and killed him out of the fear of just seeing him and her thought he was going to try again I wonder if she would even be charged. I would hope not.

For self defense to apply, fear must be reasonable. Your hypothetical would be akin to the guy who shot the black teen outside his house because he had been robbed in the past.


But its Florida where stalking a guy because he's black and drinking iced tea and eating skittles you have the right to shoot them.
 
2014-05-13 09:14:11 PM
Looks like he forgot his own motto, don't be evil.
 
2014-05-13 09:22:31 PM

NickelP: jebusfreak: when DNA taken from Google following a felony conviction for failure to pay child support

Seriously, not only a felony, but DNA testing, because he's a deadbeat dad?  When and where did civil issues become full-blown criminal cases?

/Oh and google Google, I'm sure you'll find some results

A coworker got nailed for this.  I am in favor of paying for your kids and all that, but god damn is that system farking stupid and does it screw the poor.  Guy was out in the middle of a work day (on work related stuff) in his personal car.  Cops ran his plate, saw an out of state warrant, so they pull him over and take him into custody.  He sits for days while they extradite him, then sit there waiting arraignment, has to get bailed out and travel back home.  Think it took about two weeks for him to be able to work again.  After that he had these stupid farking classes that you have to take a few times a week between like 11am and 1pm that pretty much fark you over hard on your work schedule.

Its like someone really sat around and said 'oh how can we get people who can't afford to pay their child support to pay it?' someone else piped up 'Oh I know lets make sure we fark up their shiat enough that they get fired and make it damn near impossible for them to hold employment after'.  The first guy goes 'Brilliant!  also lets tack on thousands of legal fees that they have no chance in hell of being able to pay'.

Like I said pay for your kids as best as possible, but the way that stuff is setup really seems to kick folks when they are down.


Idiot. Deadbeat Dads have children with Welfare Queens. If we get the Deadbeat Dads to pay up, we can cut taxes.

DUH!
 
2014-05-13 09:26:13 PM
Now they can indict a DNA profile, stopping the statute of limitations from expiring on the case.
 
2014-05-13 09:31:17 PM

eurotrader: The rapist William Google, of Jacksonville does live in Florida and if the victim happened to visit the area and it being Florida she carried a gun and by random chance ran into her rapist and recognized him and shot and killed him out of the fear of just seeing him and her thought he was going to try again I wonder if she would even be charged. I would hope not.


Maybe her mom could set him on fire.  (I would have linked the source article, not the blog, pero es en Espanol.)
 
2014-05-13 09:46:13 PM

NickelP: jebusfreak: when DNA taken from Google following a felony conviction for failure to pay child support

Seriously, not only a felony, but DNA testing, because he's a deadbeat dad?  When and where did civil issues become full-blown criminal cases?

/Oh and google Google, I'm sure you'll find some results

A coworker got nailed for this.  I am in favor of paying for your kids and all that, but god damn is that system farking stupid and does it screw the poor.  Guy was out in the middle of a work day (on work related stuff) in his personal car.  Cops ran his plate, saw an out of state warrant, so they pull him over and take him into custody.  He sits for days while they extradite him, then sit there waiting arraignment, has to get bailed out and travel back home.  Think it took about two weeks for him to be able to work again.  After that he had these stupid farking classes that you have to take a few times a week between like 11am and 1pm that pretty much fark you over hard on your work schedule.

Its like someone really sat around and said 'oh how can we get people who can't afford to pay their child support to pay it?' someone else piped up 'Oh I know lets make sure we fark up their shiat enough that they get fired and make it damn near impossible for them to hold employment after'.  The first guy goes 'Brilliant!  also lets tack on thousands of legal fees that they have no chance in hell of being able to pay'.

Like I said pay for your kids as best as possible, but the way that stuff is setup really seems to kick folks when they are down.


You're missing the point, perhaps you need classes. Keeping him employed and perhaps garnishing his wages would have denied several other people  a useful purpose in their position as cogs in a system to f*ck people and bleed them for any money or chance of happiness they might ever aspire to.
Why do you hate America?
 
2014-05-13 09:51:34 PM

eurotrader: Honest Bender: eurotrader: I would hope not.

Uh, I would!
I'm sorry she went through what she did, but that shouldn't be a justification for murder.

You're a sick fark.


Sounds like it the idea of justice served later frightens you. Did you do something that you should have not over 7 years ago? The state cannot take a life for an act of kidnaping and rape but a victim has the right to defend themselves and use deadly force and fear for their own life is something I believe the statue has means in a person's own mind and not  what a reasonable person would believe. The state failed the woman and if karma allowed her to find justice in her own time and without provable premeditation all the better.


You believe wrong.
 
2014-05-13 09:51:53 PM

Misconduc: Statue of limitations is bullshiat. If it wasn't for the fact he got caught and DNA tested, he would of never been found. There should be no such thing as statue of limitations, he raped and got away with it. Yet someone could not return library books and 30 years later be charged with it?
Why do we even have a legal system again?


"would of"?  Is our children learning?

Both the alleged victim and the alleged rapist both seem to agree they had sex.  Is he guilty?  I don't know.  If I were on a jury would I vote "Guilty"?  No, not based on what limited knowledge I have of this case.

It's been 23 years.  Memories have faded and there's no real evidence to go on.  As much as I hate to see a violent criminal go free, I also would hate it if an innocent person goes to prison because of emotions.
 
2014-05-13 10:17:34 PM

Misconduc: Statue of limitations is bullshiat. If it wasn't for the fact he got caught and DNA tested, he would of never been found. There should be no such thing as statue of limitations, he raped and got away with it. Yet someone could not return library books and 30 years later be charged with it?
Why do we even have a legal system again?


A statute of limitations exists for a few reasons, but chief among them is that a defendant might have lost evidence to disprove a crime in the good length of time that might pass if there is no limitations.

Picture a man with timeclock records that they worked at a job.  20 years later they are indicted for a rape that a woman on the streets runs into him and "recognizes" him as the guy that did it.  Can he go back that far to make the claim he was at work at the time of the crime?  What if the business long ago went bankrupt and all their records were destroyed?

Defendants have rights, and among those rights are to afford them the ability to mount an effective defense.  The passage of too much time makes it a possibility that they cannot do so, and that is why a lot of crimes have a statute of limitations.
 
2014-05-13 10:20:32 PM
MI hasn't had a statute of limitations for first degree rape since 2001.
 
2014-05-13 10:30:02 PM
Does he have a brother named Barney?

/obscure?
 
2014-05-13 10:58:50 PM

grimlock1972: Does he have a brother named Barney?

/obscure?


You'd have to see his eyes.
 
2014-05-13 11:05:08 PM
There's also the fact that a false positive DNA match is a good deal more likely than a false negative. They aren't profiling all 10 billion base pairs in a DNA test, they're collecting a much smaller set of DNA markers. Close or even distant relatives have a pretty good chance of getting at least a weak positive (within the margin of error, given the fuzziness that you're likely to get with the crime scene sample), and even a total stranger has a small but non-negligible chance of a match by sheer chance, especially as DNA databases grow.

Reference
 
2014-05-14 12:03:47 AM

mrmopar5287: Misconduc: Statue of limitations is bullshiat. If it wasn't for the fact he got caught and DNA tested, he would of never been found. There should be no such thing as statue of limitations, he raped and got away with it. Yet someone could not return library books and 30 years later be charged with it?
Why do we even have a legal system again?

A statute of limitations exists for a few reasons, but chief among them is that a defendant might have lost evidence to disprove a crime in the good length of time that might pass if there is no limitations.

Picture a man with timeclock records that they worked at a job.  20 years later they are indicted for a rape that a woman on the streets runs into him and "recognizes" him as the guy that did it.  Can he go back that far to make the claim he was at work at the time of the crime?  What if the business long ago went bankrupt and all their records were destroyed?

Defendants have rights, and among those rights are to afford them the ability to mount an effective defense.  The passage of too much time makes it a possibility that they cannot do so, and that is why a lot of crimes have a statute of limitations.


But if my internet GED in law is not wrong, there is no statute of limitations on murder in the US.

I'm also reminded of an old TV show - I think it was the Twilight Zone, but it could have been The Outer Limits or some other show.

A woman is attacked, but she survives.  Later she's riding along with her husband and she sees some guy.  "That's the man!" she exclaims.  Her husband asks if she's sure.  She insists she is positive that was the man who attacked her.  Husband stops the car, gets out and kills him.

They continue driving and the woman sees another man and says "That's him!"  Her husband looks over at her and doesn't say anything, but you can just imagine he's thinking "Oh shiat, she sees her attacker everywhere and I probably just killed an innocent man."

Does anyone else remember that episode?  I know nothing is obscure here.
 
2014-05-14 12:11:59 AM

jebusfreak: when DNA taken from Google following a felony conviction for failure to pay child support

Seriously, not only a felony, but DNA testing, because he's a deadbeat dad?  When and where did civil issues become full-blown criminal cases?

/Oh and google Google, I'm sure you'll find some results


I think it probably became a felony when he didn't pay support. 

However, I don't think DNA testing of non violent felons is warranted unless they are suspected before hand of one of these type of crimes.  However, it's Florida so I'm not surprised.
 
2014-05-14 01:13:51 AM

Bigdogdaddy: jebusfreak: when DNA taken from Google following a felony conviction for failure to pay child support

Seriously, not only a felony, but DNA testing, because he's a deadbeat dad?  When and where did civil issues become full-blown criminal cases?

/Oh and google Google, I'm sure you'll find some results

I think it probably became a felony when he didn't pay support. 

However, I don't think DNA testing of non violent felons is warranted unless they are suspected before hand of one of these type of crimes.  However, it's Florida so I'm not surprised.


In a child-support case, it's a felony because it's a violation of a court order (i.e. contempt of court). This is no longer "just a civil issue"--the father (or mother) has opted to disregard an order handed down by a judge; thus, it ceases to be a matter between the mother and father and now becomes a matter between the father and the state, and hence a criminal, or at least quasi-criminal one.

And in the case of child support, the only defense allowable is non-paternity--that isn't my kid. So the court may have ordered a preemptive DNA test. Or they may just be going to DNA testing for all felons; some states are doing that.
 
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