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(Right Wing Watch)   Can a stopped watch be half right twice a day? Pat Robertson denies young earth creationism   (rightwingwatch.org) divider line 31
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2014-05-13 04:21:16 PM  
7 votes:
He's been hammering on this lately, probably because the Creationism malarkey is harming his bottom line and pushing people out of the Christian flock.  I mean, Christian opposition to gay marriage is probably a way bigger factor, but he can't go on about letting two people love each other regardless of their gender/sex, as it would cause him to lose more money.

If Creationism was drawing in more dough for him, he'd be singing it's praises.

//He's a businessman first, preacher second.
2014-05-13 05:51:14 PM  
4 votes:

Prophet of Loss: Very few Christians are actually "Young Earth Creationists". They are just a convenient strawman for Atheists to burn.


If by "convenient strawman" you mean a terrifyingly influential vocal minority who managed to get in to places which matter, such as the House science committee, then sure.
2014-05-13 06:03:19 PM  
3 votes:

king_nacho: Damnhippyfreak: Prophet of Loss: Very few Christians are actually "Young Earth Creationists". They are just a convenient strawman for Atheists to burn.


Don't be too sure about that...

[img.fark.net image 651x248]

I put limited stock in online polls


How about Pew

www.pewforum.org

or Gallup?

whyevolutionistrue.files.wordpress.com
2014-05-13 05:43:11 PM  
3 votes:

Prophet of Loss: Very few Christians are actually "Young Earth Creationists". They are just a convenient strawman for Atheists thinking people to burn.

2014-05-13 05:24:41 PM  
3 votes:

meat0918: He's been hammering on this lately, probably because the Creationism malarkey is harming his bottom line and pushing people out of the Christian flock.  I mean, Christian opposition to gay marriage is probably a way bigger factor, but he can't go on about letting two people love each other regardless of their gender/sex, as it would cause him to lose more money.

If Creationism was drawing in more dough for him, he'd be singing it's praises.

//He's a businessman first, preacher second.


I'm just waiting for the first mega-church leader to come out with the "Pat Robertson is not a true Christian." bit.  Then we can make some popcorn, put some brews on ice and watch the giant shiatstorm unfold before us.
2014-05-13 03:27:07 PM  
3 votes:
Well duh, it takes a long time to create blood diamonds.
2014-05-13 06:54:16 PM  
2 votes:

Flappyhead: meat0918: He's been hammering on this lately, probably because the Creationism malarkey is harming his bottom line and pushing people out of the Christian flock.  I mean, Christian opposition to gay marriage is probably a way bigger factor, but he can't go on about letting two people love each other regardless of their gender/sex, as it would cause him to lose more money.

If Creationism was drawing in more dough for him, he'd be singing it's praises.

//He's a businessman first, preacher second.

I'm just waiting for the first mega-church leader to come out with the "Pat Robertson is not a true Christian." bit.  Then we can make some popcorn, put some brews on ice and watch the giant shiatstorm unfold before us.


Got my money on Jack Van Impe to be the one. He has already called out Rick Warren and Joel Osteen on their lack of Christianity...and lost his TBN deal over it
2014-05-13 06:03:36 PM  
2 votes:

Ishkur: chitownmike: but strangely there no young earth Jews, Muslims, Buddhists, etc. that atheists target outrage at. Odd, isn't it?

Actually, there are. All sorts of them. But none of them try to press any of their stupid beliefs into schools and/or legislation.


I suggest you verify this by going to Saudi Arabia and proclaiming that Adam and Eve and Noah are all fictional characters.

Let me know how that works out
2014-05-13 05:58:07 PM  
2 votes:

chitownmike: but strangely there no young earth Jews, Muslims, Buddhists, etc. that atheists target outrage at. Odd, isn't it?


Actually, there are. All sorts of them. But none of them try to press any of their stupid beliefs into schools and/or legislation.
2014-05-13 05:51:12 PM  
2 votes:

Prophet of Loss: Very few Christians are actually "Young Earth Creationists". They are just a convenient strawman for Atheists to burn.



Don't be too sure about that...

img.fark.net
2014-05-13 05:44:28 PM  
2 votes:

Prophet of Loss: Very few Christians are actually "Young Earth Creationists". They are just a convenient strawman for Atheists to burn.


Nineteen percent of Protestant pastors polled in the U.S. isn't what I'd call "very few." It's a minority, but it's a sizable (and extremely ill-informed) one.
2014-05-14 10:14:16 AM  
1 votes:

LiberalConservative: cchris_39: Never met a young earth creationist in real life.

I've met one - a geneticist phd candidate. Catholic variant too. Was a bizarre experience/conversation that included bungled bible quotes from their end.
Always suspected they were a little intellect deficient and then they spoke out and verified my impression.


If a Catholic is a YEC, it's something they are doing on their own.  The Church does not take that stance.

I also knew a creationist who tried to go for a PhD in genetics, and was shocked that no one wanted to work with her.  I wonder if they are the same person.

/Worse: She ended up teaching science in a high school.
2014-05-14 04:52:47 AM  
1 votes:

isntthatamusing: Joke all you want but when you have lava flowing out from what used to be your eyeballs for the rest of eternity, I'll the one who will be laughing.


I'm glad that your version of heaven is some place where you take joy in those less fortunate than you. It's really a rather disturbing mind set.
2014-05-13 11:23:56 PM  
1 votes:

squirrelflavoredyogurt: Prophet of Loss: king_nacho: generallyso: Prophet of Loss: Very few Christians are actually "Young Earth Creationists". They are just a convenient strawman for Atheists to burn.


As far as US Christians go you are hopelessly, utterly, wrong.
Forty-six percent of Americans believe in the creationist view that God created humans in their present form at one time within the last 10,000 years. The prevalence of this creationist view of the origin of humans is essentially unchanged from 30 years ago, when Gallup first asked the question. About a third of Americans believe that humans evolved, but with God's guidance; 15% say humans evolved, but that God had no part in the process.

http://www.gallup.com/poll/155003/hold-creationist-view-human-origins . aspx

You know, I see these polls, and I know plenty of devout Christians, and none of them believe in young earth creationism. I sometimes wonder if the people that agree to take these polls are more likely to have these beliefs.

So do I. Its easy to find the fanatics in any human endeavor: they are the ones screaming into the nearest mic. Whether they be Theists or Atheists: if they are spreading intolerance and hate they are not being productive.

Really? I suppose you have examples of Atheists spreading intolerance? Let me guess, intolerance of bad ideas and silly beliefs that just don't add up?

I bet you think that's on par with trying to keep people you don't know from being able to marry because of a belief you have.


Of course it happens, Atheist leaders have committed genocide in the past because of their beliefs. Intolerance is a personal trait, one that doesn't care which side of the argument you are on.
2014-05-13 07:05:07 PM  
1 votes:

Jument: If I were you I would move to another state and never look back. Every one of those anecdotes is beyond insanity.


The thing is, Oregon is one of the least religious states in America, and I'm in Eugene, not exactly a place known as a hot bed of religious fundamentalism.
2014-05-13 06:55:51 PM  
1 votes:

cchris_39: Never met a young earth creationist in real life.


It is a continuum - it all starts with "I'm no monkey" and ends with "the Earth is ~6006 years old" and "radiocarbon dating is a conspiracy".
2014-05-13 06:50:23 PM  
1 votes:

LazyMedia: Man, I haven't seen this big a move in fundamentalist acknowledgment of obvious reality since they decided to drop Flat Earthism. What's next? Admitting that Jesus was just, like, this guy, y'know?


He'll get excommunicated (or equivalent), and someone will posit that he had a stroke or something and that this isn't the "real" Robertson.

The same thing happened with a jesus-already-came-twice type ten or fifteen years ago (the name escapes me, wish I could recall because the discussion made for fascinating reading) - apparently when you're that deep down the fundamentalist crazy rabbit hole even fine distinctions are enough to merit total exile.
2014-05-13 06:46:35 PM  
1 votes:

cchris_39: Never met a young earth creationist in real life.


You are fortunate.  I have worked with several, and even worked for one.
2014-05-13 06:45:16 PM  
1 votes:

king_nacho: You know, I see these polls, and I know plenty of devout Christians, and none of them believe in young earth creationism. I sometimes wonder if the people that agree to take these polls are more likely to have these beliefs.


Where do you live, and in what social circles do you circulate?  You may just be away from the worst of the derp.
2014-05-13 06:43:21 PM  
1 votes:

Prophet of Loss: king_nacho: generallyso: Prophet of Loss: Very few Christians are actually "Young Earth Creationists". They are just a convenient strawman for Atheists to burn.


As far as US Christians go you are hopelessly, utterly, wrong.
Forty-six percent of Americans believe in the creationist view that God created humans in their present form at one time within the last 10,000 years. The prevalence of this creationist view of the origin of humans is essentially unchanged from 30 years ago, when Gallup first asked the question. About a third of Americans believe that humans evolved, but with God's guidance; 15% say humans evolved, but that God had no part in the process.

http://www.gallup.com/poll/155003/hold-creationist-view-human-origins . aspx

You know, I see these polls, and I know plenty of devout Christians, and none of them believe in young earth creationism. I sometimes wonder if the people that agree to take these polls are more likely to have these beliefs.

So do I. Its easy to find the fanatics in any human endeavor: they are the ones screaming into the nearest mic. Whether they be Theists or Atheists: if they are spreading intolerance and hate they are not being productive.


Really? I suppose you have examples of Atheists spreading intolerance? Let me guess, intolerance of bad ideas and silly beliefs that just don't add up?

I bet you think that's on par with trying to keep people you don't know from being able to marry because of a belief you have.
2014-05-13 06:40:35 PM  
1 votes:

meat0918: king_nacho: generallyso: Prophet of Loss: Very few Christians are actually "Young Earth Creationists". They are just a convenient strawman for Atheists to burn.


As far as US Christians go you are hopelessly, utterly, wrong.
Forty-six percent of Americans believe in the creationist view that God created humans in their present form at one time within the last 10,000 years. The prevalence of this creationist view of the origin of humans is essentially unchanged from 30 years ago, when Gallup first asked the question. About a third of Americans believe that humans evolved, but with God's guidance; 15% say humans evolved, but that God had no part in the process.

http://www.gallup.com/poll/155003/hold-creationist-view-human-origins . aspx

You know, I see these polls, and I know plenty of devout Christians, and none of them believe in young earth creationism. I sometimes wonder if the people that agree to take these polls are more likely to have these beliefs.

See, I've had the exact opposite experience.

I know a few devout Christian evangelicals, and they believe in young earth Creationism.  I have several of them in my neighborhood, and I live in the relatively heathen land of Oregon.  A couple of the kids have said their teachers (private school) have promised them a real sword and shield to defend the faith from evil. (Wish I was joking).

As another anecdote, one devout and otherwise superfundy (asked me to change the radio station once from Black Sabbath because it's satanic) Christian I know had to change churches because they found out he has a real geology degree and the church's pastor and attendees spent a lot of time trying to convince him he was wrong about the age of the earth being in the billions range rather than thousands.

A member of our neighborhood organization board wanted to make sure the school district didn't include evolution in their new science textbooks.

A couple of members of the women's choir my wife was in sent her a Ray Comfort boo ...


If I were you I would move to another state and never look back. Every one of those anecdotes is beyond insanity.
2014-05-13 06:36:01 PM  
1 votes:
Never met a young earth creationist in real life.
2014-05-13 06:29:53 PM  
1 votes:

chitownmike: Prophet of Loss: Very few Christians are actually "Young Earth Creationists". They are just a convenient strawman for Atheists to burn.

but strangely there no young earth Jews, Muslims, Buddhists, etc. that atheists target outrage at. Odd, isn't it?


You must not know any atheists.  Islamic creationists, particularly that guy in Turkey who is pouring money into creationist propaganda, get roasted in the atheist blogosphere.  YEC Jews are nice enough to keep it to themselves, and don't try to sabotage science education in America, so we don't get as angry at them.  There aren't a lot of Buddhists in the USA, and I have never heard anything to indicate that they are committed to the idea of a young Earth.  Depending on how you do the math, Hindu cosmology posits a much older Earth than the geological record would allow.
2014-05-13 06:20:28 PM  
1 votes:

Prophet of Loss: Very few Christians are actually "Young Earth Creationists". They are just a convenient strawman for Atheists to burn.


According to Gallup 40% of Americans are Young Earth Creationists, though you get different results if you ask people questions about dinosaurs or moving continents without first asking any questions that would remind them of religion.  Those 40% pretty much have to come out of the 73-77% of Americans who are Christian, since only 0.8% of Americans are Muslim and not many of the 1.4% who are Jewish are strict biblical literalists.  Other religions are a drop in the bucket, and if you know of any atheist creationists, I would like to know the details.
2014-05-13 06:12:44 PM  
1 votes:

king_nacho: generallyso: Prophet of Loss: Very few Christians are actually "Young Earth Creationists". They are just a convenient strawman for Atheists to burn.


As far as US Christians go you are hopelessly, utterly, wrong.
Forty-six percent of Americans believe in the creationist view that God created humans in their present form at one time within the last 10,000 years. The prevalence of this creationist view of the origin of humans is essentially unchanged from 30 years ago, when Gallup first asked the question. About a third of Americans believe that humans evolved, but with God's guidance; 15% say humans evolved, but that God had no part in the process.

http://www.gallup.com/poll/155003/hold-creationist-view-human-origins . aspx

You know, I see these polls, and I know plenty of devout Christians, and none of them believe in young earth creationism. I sometimes wonder if the people that agree to take these polls are more likely to have these beliefs.


See, I've had the exact opposite experience.

I know a few devout Christian evangelicals, and they believe in young earth Creationism.  I have several of them in my neighborhood, and I live in the relatively heathen land of Oregon.  A couple of the kids have said their teachers (private school) have promised them a real sword and shield to defend the faith from evil. (Wish I was joking).

As another anecdote, one devout and otherwise superfundy (asked me to change the radio station once from Black Sabbath because it's satanic) Christian I know had to change churches because they found out he has a real geology degree and the church's pastor and attendees spent a lot of time trying to convince him he was wrong about the age of the earth being in the billions range rather than thousands.

A member of our neighborhood organization board wanted to make sure the school district didn't include evolution in their new science textbooks.

A couple of members of the women's choir my wife was in sent her a Ray Comfort book on why atheists and evolution are wrong.

Everyone has different experiences, mine have not been complimentary of the YEC segment of America.
2014-05-13 06:10:50 PM  
1 votes:

Damnhippyfreak: Prophet of Loss: Very few Christians are actually "Young Earth Creationists". They are just a convenient strawman for Atheists to burn.


Don't be too sure about that...

[img.fark.net image 651x248]


60% literally believe in the flood?  What the fark
2014-05-13 06:09:21 PM  
1 votes:

dforkus: Ishkur: chitownmike: but strangely there no young earth Jews, Muslims, Buddhists, etc. that atheists target outrage at. Odd, isn't it?

Actually, there are. All sorts of them. But none of them try to press any of their stupid beliefs into schools and/or legislation.

I suggest you verify this by going to Saudi Arabia and proclaiming that Adam and Eve and Noah are all fictional characters.

Let me know how that works out


That's Saudi Arabia's problem. Last I checked the Saudis don't get House and Senate seats, and haven't applied for statehood yet. When that happens they'll be our problem.

But in America it's overwhelmingly "fundamentalist" christians who are the ones trying to legislate their religion on the rest of us.
2014-05-13 06:00:42 PM  
1 votes:

Prophet of Loss: Very few Christians are actually "Young Earth Creationists". They are just a convenient strawman for Atheists to burn.


If only that were true. I went to a family reunion in south western Kansas and discovered to my surprise that I was surrounded by them. They were all looking at me like I was a moron. This was over 30 years ago (pre-internet) & it didn't occur to me that evolution was still being contested.

Even my damn turn coat of a brother bailed on me. I'm now the agnostic atheist godparent of his daughter. Yeah, I don't get it either.
2014-05-13 05:56:09 PM  
1 votes:

Prophet of Loss: Very few Christians are actually "Young Earth Creationists". They are just a convenient strawman for Atheists to burn.


Bullshiat!! Their are many of them. You just are trying to hide the fact that they are another member of the anti-evolution, global warming denier flock of the right.
2014-05-13 05:42:06 PM  
1 votes:
Man, I haven't seen this big a move in fundamentalist acknowledgment of obvious reality since they decided to drop Flat Earthism. What's next? Admitting that Jesus was just, like, this guy, y'know?
2014-05-13 05:26:58 PM  
1 votes:

Flappyhead: meat0918: He's been hammering on this lately, probably because the Creationism malarkey is harming his bottom line and pushing people out of the Christian flock.  I mean, Christian opposition to gay marriage is probably a way bigger factor, but he can't go on about letting two people love each other regardless of their gender/sex, as it would cause him to lose more money.

If Creationism was drawing in more dough for him, he'd be singing it's praises.

//He's a businessman first, preacher second.

I'm just waiting for the first mega-church leader to come out with the "Pat Robertson is not a true Christian." bit.  Then we can make some popcorn, put some brews on ice and watch the giant shiatstorm unfold before us.


Ken Ham has already called Pat " misinformed and deceived ", back in February.
 
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