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2014-05-13 02:01:32 PM  
Say goodbye to the only reason I enjoy SNL, the contagious laughter that nearly takes down a skit.
 
2014-05-13 02:31:38 PM  
About the only reason I watch these days is for the occasional former pornstars selling stuff skit.

I laugh until it hurts every goddamn time.
 
2014-05-13 03:09:03 PM  
Actually, the article is mostly the writer whining that the live segments aren't very good and that there seems to be more taped segments than he remembers without any statistics to back up his claim.
 
2014-05-13 03:11:23 PM  
The star walks onstage and the audience goes wild.
He or she pouts and vogues while the cast members smile.
Then the fatty or the preppie or the Fred Armisen-type speaks
And just when the star is about to flub their first line...I jizz in my pants.
 
2014-05-13 03:13:10 PM  

Shostie: About the only reason I watch these days is for the occasional former pornstars selling stuff skit.



plus cecily strong is THICK, too, in that dress.
 
2014-05-13 03:15:06 PM  
Eh, I've always felt that the funniest stuff is the pre-recorded bits, such as the fake TV commercials or bits like Eddie Murphy going undercover as a white man (or more recently, LCK parodying his own show as Lincoln).

With the live sketches, outside parodying existing TV shows (cable news talk and game shows), the writers just have zero ideas.
 
2014-05-13 03:16:53 PM  
This show should have died decades ago.
 
2014-05-13 03:18:45 PM  

CarnySaur: Actually, the article is mostly the writer whining that the live segments aren't very good and that there seems to be more taped segments than he remembers without any statistics to back up his claim.


this...well, i assume this...i dnrtfa

but just judging by the headline, i guessed it would be someone saying something about taped segments. but snl has ALWAYS had taped segments. i really don't think they have much more pre-recorded material now than they did 38 years ago
 
2014-05-13 03:19:46 PM  

InterruptingQuirk: Say goodbye to the only reason I enjoy SNL, the contagious laughter that nearly takes down a skit.


Who's Line is it Anyway does it better
 
2014-05-13 03:20:27 PM  

CarnySaur: Actually, the article is mostly the writer whining that the live segments aren't very good and that there seems to be more taped segments than he remembers without any statistics to back up his claim.


Good, someone else read the same article I did.

They won't get rid of "Live".
 
2014-05-13 03:24:07 PM  
As long as they don't let go of the "glancing over at the cue cards" bit. That's my favourite part.
i.imgur.com

/Memorizing lines and rehearsing are for the sissies who can't get blow or get laid in New York.
 
2014-05-13 03:25:22 PM  
Was "funny" ever in the title, subby?
 
2014-05-13 03:25:35 PM  

thornhill: ways felt that the funniest stuff is the pre-recorded bits, such as the fake TV commercials or bits like Eddie Murphy going undercover as a white man (or more recently, LCK parodying his own show as Lincoln).



and the writer seems to miss that the prerecorded stuff has always been part of the show's DNA;  the black-and-white "old John Belushi mourning his castmates", the silent movie of Steve Martin and Gilda Dancing, the synchrionized swimmer bit, Nathan Thurm, etc.  and the fake commercials that they still do, bill murray did that shiat in year 1.

i think it is more a reaction of technology / zeitgeist that there are more produced bits on the show.  with the ubiquity of Youtube, the "selfie generation", smartphones, and teh DIY ethic that a smartphone entails, anyone can make a video.  whereas, hell, even in the 90s and part of the 2000s, to make an even halfway competent looking piece, you had to have thousands of dollars of gear.  now?  you have HD on the phone.  the "cultural market" is now such that since anyone can make a good looking video (funnyordie much?), that kind of humor is right up SNL's alley.


just with Lorne would start booking cool music instead of whatever shiatsuck band is on this week's Rolling Stone and or has a new record out on whatever label is co-owned by NBC or its corprorate master.  yeah, i really need to hear Lana del Rey.  she'll be around in 10 years.
 
2014-05-13 03:29:18 PM  

lindalouwho: CarnySaur: Actually, the article is mostly the writer whining that the live segments aren't very good and that there seems to be more taped segments than he remembers without any statistics to back up his claim.

Good, someone else read the same article I did.

They won't get rid of "Live".


if ebersol had his way back in the day, they would have
 
2014-05-13 03:29:27 PM  
There's a lot of bad skits, but this one really cracked me and my wife up this weekend. Maybe it is just because we also own a sociopathic cat. It really depends on the guest though. A good guest with comedic flair goes a long way, and a bad guest will wreck the whole show.
 
2014-05-13 03:30:02 PM  
This room is surrounded entirely by film!

24.media.tumblr.com
 
2014-05-13 03:31:17 PM  
To be fair, early 80s Ebersol SNL had a ton of pre-taped material, so much so that had Lorne not re-taken the SNL helm, he would have turned the entire show in to a pre-taped skit show
 
2014-05-13 03:32:53 PM  
As one of 3 people who still watch SNL regularly, the increase in pre-recorded segments is quite noticeable.  Obviously its easier to make funny stuff when you have all week to polish and edit, but the show loses its unique energy.
 
2014-05-13 03:39:12 PM  

MooseMuffin: As one of 3 people who still watch SNL regularly, the increase in pre-recorded segments is quite noticeable.  Obviously its easier to make funny stuff when you have all week to polish and edit, but the show loses its unique energy.


This.

And you can't pre-record Weekend Update.

Ebersole would have killed SNL. Good thing Lorne loved it enough to come back. His baby, after all.
 
2014-05-13 03:44:45 PM  

bill4935: Memorizing lines and rehearsing are for the sissies who can't get blow or get laid in New York.


from what i understand, they use cue cards because sketches are often rewritten at the last minute, between dress and air. learning your lines would be a liability at that point.

but i agreed that it's distracting.
 
2014-05-13 03:46:58 PM  

rickythepenguin: just with Lorne would start booking cool music instead of whatever shiatsuck band is on this week's Rolling Stone and or has a new record out on whatever label is co-owned by NBC or its corprorate master.  yeah, i really need to hear Lana del Rey.  she'll be around in 10 years.


this is a relief...I thought it was just a sign of me getting old and losing touch with pop culture, but I hardly recognize any of the bands who play SNL and I really don't even like the sound of their music (that or I don't "get it").  It seems like they just went to a club a few miles from the studio, picked the most hipster-ish looking lead singer and asked the band if they can play two songs on Saturday night, since they apparently have no other gigs scheduled.

NExt weeks musical guest....homeless guy with an awesome mustache, tight jeans and a cowbell...and your host Kristen Stewart.
 
2014-05-13 03:49:57 PM  

Smeggy Smurf: InterruptingQuirk: Say goodbye to the only reason I enjoy SNL, the contagious laughter that nearly takes down a skit.

Who's Line is it Anyway does it better


A long time ago

epguides.com
 
2014-05-13 03:51:06 PM  

FlashHarry: bill4935: Memorizing lines and rehearsing are for the sissies who can't get blow or get laid in New York.

from what i understand, they use cue cards because sketches are often rewritten at the last minute, between dress and air. learning your lines would be a liability at that point.

but i agreed that it's distracting.


Lorne Michaels demands that every cast member and guest star read from the cue cards even if they remember their lines perfectly, it's always been that way.
 
2014-05-13 03:52:45 PM  

bborchar: Was "funny" ever in the title, subby?


"saturday" is latin for "funny", right?
 
2014-05-13 03:53:16 PM  
SNL has long since become precisely the sort of institutional comedy show that the original creators were
rebelling against.
 
2014-05-13 03:54:37 PM  

FlashHarry: what i understand, they use cue cards because sketches are often rewritten at the last minute, between dress and air. learning your lines would be a liability at that point.



Bill Simmons (of all people) is often able to get people like Bill Hader, Taran Killam,  Seth Myers, and I thiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiink Tina Fey on his podcast and you end up with all these cool 'behind the scenes' vignettes about the show.  specifically to cue cards, i think both Hader and Killam said in sum, as you did, the sketches change so frequently* that there's no point to learning the lines.  You might spend Friday 'learning' anywhere from 20-30 sketches, at Saturday dress do maybe 12-15, then for the show find out that you're only doing 7 some of which were drastically rewritten between dress and live.

Like when Jon Hamm was on, he said of that Halloween sketch, at dress he played the part doing an impression of like, Vincent Price or some old ass hollywood actor, then for the show, moments before, the writers were like, "can you do that as [name of other obscure hollywood actor] and by the way, ther'es a shiatload of new material."  and he pulled it off.  he's like, "that's the kind of chaos that goes on, they throw last minute shiat at you and you just have to go out there and do the best you can."


*for those that may not know, part of why Gay Stefon so often cracks is that he's seeing the most outlandish shiat for the first time.  also on the sports guy podcast, he said that is a little game of sorts with Hader and head writer; he (writer) tries to get Hader to crack.
 
2014-05-13 03:58:03 PM  
Wow. I win. I had 2014 for when Lorn pulled his head out and figured out that production values and paying for editing might steer points up.

Now I need to place a bet on when the spectacularly unfunny Zach Galifianakis is removed from the equation.
Ans buy a lottery Ticket while I'm on a roll.
 
2014-05-13 03:59:56 PM  

Shostie: About the only reason I watch these days is for the occasional former pornstars selling stuff skit.

I laugh until it hurts every goddamn time.


Never saw one.
 
2014-05-13 04:15:58 PM  

vudukungfu: Now I need to place a bet on when the spectacularly unfunny Zach Galifianakis is removed from the equation.



interesting comedy moment on adam carolla's podcast after Zach hosted and did that bizarre non sequitur standup bit to open the show, pepole said Zach stole the "do Black people call that popular bodyspray 'Ask'?" joke.  and someone found this old ass Carolla appearance on Howard Stern from like, the late 90s or some shiat and made that same joke.

carolla just said it wasn't stealing, it was one of those jokes that someone would have gotten around to, he just happened to use it first.
 
2014-05-13 04:35:27 PM  
What does Galifianakis have to do with SNL?
 
2014-05-13 04:52:35 PM  

CarnySaur: Actually, the article is mostly the writer whining that the live segments aren't very good and that there seems to be more taped segments than he remembers without any statistics to back up his claim.


Good, I only skimmed the article, and I came to the same conclusion, but I thought maybe I was missing something.
 
2014-05-13 04:57:57 PM  
I thought that was funny... I don't think it was "dangerous", since they had plenty of time to edit, and it was probably planned out, even set up in rehearsal once or twice so that the editor just had to sit down in his bay with the footage, and cut roughly where he had when rehearsing. What is hard is the timing, and they got that right.

Zach Galifinakis is hit or miss, he plays 'uncomfortable' very well, and can be funny, but other times, it's anybody's guess. I liked this, and I don't think that it mean SNL isn't gonna have any 'L'. TFA of TFA sounds very concerned, though.
 
2014-05-13 05:50:02 PM  
I don't care, keep the stuff by Kyle Mooney and Beck Bennett coming.
 
2014-05-13 06:03:38 PM  

InterruptingQuirk: A long time ago

[epguides.com image 625x352]


I'd nibble Josie Lawrence's twiglets....
 
2014-05-13 06:11:10 PM  

Handsome B. Wonderful: I don't care, keep the stuff by Kyle Mooney and Beck Bennett coming.


God, I hate Kyle Mooney's videos sooo much. Beck Bennett is great in skits, though. Whoever does the women-focused pre-produced bits is a genius. They need more of that and less of the awkward humor crap.
 
2014-05-13 06:34:26 PM  

luidprand: God, I hate Kyle Mooney's videos sooo much. Beck Bennett is great in skits, though.



Kyle is the nerdy looking guy with the awkward stoner high school videos, i'm guessing?   Bennett must be Adult Baby guy.
 
2014-05-13 06:43:53 PM  
I want to see hard numbers: are there actually more minutes of prerecorded material per episode now than there were 10, 20, 30 years ago, or does it just seem like it because those are the segments that get the most traction in today's viral/social cultural ecosystem?
 
2014-05-13 06:51:17 PM  
And now here's a short film by Albert Brooks.
 
2014-05-13 07:01:45 PM  

rickythepenguin: thornhill: ways felt that the funniest stuff is the pre-recorded bits, such as the fake TV commercials or bits like Eddie Murphy going undercover as a white man (or more recently, LCK parodying his own show as Lincoln).


and the writer seems to miss that the prerecorded stuff has always been part of the show's DNA;  the black-and-white "old John Belushi mourning his castmates", the silent movie of Steve Martin and Gilda Dancing, the synchrionized swimmer bit, Nathan Thurm, etc.  and the fake commercials that they still do, bill murray did that shiat in year 1.

....just with Lorne would start booking cool music instead of whatever shiatsuck band is on this week's Rolling Stone and or has a new record out on whatever label is co-owned by NBC or its corprorate master.  yeah, i really need to hear Lana del Rey.  she'll be around in 10 years.



Just a nitpick, but Murray didn't join until '77 when he was "the new kid", but point well taken.... It seems like they DID use to take more chances musically, like booking the Sex Pistols, who canceled at the last minute, which introduced us all to Elvis Costello.  We also got to see Kate Bush and Marianne Faithfull and Frank Zappa and on and on.  If I remember, Walter Matthau hosted and insisted on his musical guest, which was Garrett Morris, who received his classical singing training at Juilliard; a change of pace, but a refreshing one for sure.
 
2014-05-13 07:06:26 PM  

Mad_Radhu: There's a lot of bad skits, but this one really cracked me and my wife up this weekend. Maybe it is just because we also own a sociopathic cat. It really depends on the guest though. A good guest with comedic flair goes a long way, and a bad guest will wreck the whole show.


That's awesome.  I have a sociopathic cat as well.
 
2014-05-13 07:40:08 PM  
No mention of the Norm McDonald rant / monologue? That was epic...
 
2014-05-13 07:41:39 PM  

Mikey1969: I thought that was funny... I don't think it was "dangerous", since they had plenty of time to edit, and it was probably planned out, even set up in rehearsal once or twice so that the editor just had to sit down in his bay with the footage, and cut roughly where he had when rehearsing. What is hard is the timing, and they got that right.

Zach Galifinakis is hit or miss, he plays 'uncomfortable' very well, and can be funny, but other times, it's anybody's guess. I liked this, and I don't think that it mean SNL isn't gonna have any 'L'. TFA of TFA sounds very concerned, though.


I imagine they have taped dress rehearsal versions of all the sketches always ready to air in case something happens at the last minute.
 
2014-05-13 07:57:43 PM  

thornhill: I imagine they have taped dress rehearsal versions of all the sketches always ready to air in case something happens at the last minute.



the dresses are taped, that came out in one of the aforementioned Bill Simmons podcasts.  he was jumping out of his seat asking why they aren't offered on Hulu or whatever.  whether the "demo versions" of epic skits or the potential trainwrecks or the "this is phenomenal!  how in the hell did this not make air?", he was asking I think Seth Myers why they weren't made avaialble.  myers (or whomever) was like, "go ask Lorne!"

thye tape to help set up the blocking and lighting and obviously, just to see how things "play" on camera.  the main difference, i think myers said, was that the sets are mainly constructed but no makeup/costumes.  i think.
 
2014-05-13 08:03:34 PM  

rickythepenguin: thornhill: I imagine they have taped dress rehearsal versions of all the sketches always ready to air in case something happens at the last minute.


the dresses are taped, that came out in one of the aforementioned Bill Simmons podcasts.  he was jumping out of his seat asking why they aren't offered on Hulu or whatever.  whether the "demo versions" of epic skits or the potential trainwrecks or the "this is phenomenal!  how in the hell did this not make air?", he was asking I think Seth Myers why they weren't made avaialble.  myers (or whomever) was like, "go ask Lorne!"

thye tape to help set up the blocking and lighting and obviously, just to see how things "play" on camera.  the main difference, i think myers said, was that the sets are mainly constructed but no makeup/costumes.  i think.


The cut sketches do get released from time to time. Salon, I think, did an article about them like 6 months ago and featured a bunch.
 
2014-05-13 08:08:56 PM  

Billy Liar: It seems like they DID use to take more chances musically, like booking the Sex Pistols, who canceled at the last minute, which introduced us all to Elvis Costello.  We also got to see Kate Bush and Marianne Faithfull and Frank Zappa and on and on.


As well as some real turkeys. Kid Creole & the Coconuts. Sparks. The Broadway cast of "Pirates of Penzance." The Funky Four Plus One. Joe Carrasco. And that was all in the ill-fated and prematurely truncated '80-'81 season.
 
2014-05-13 09:11:42 PM  

thornhill: The cut sketches do get released from time to time. Salon, I think, did an article about them like 6 months ago and featured a bunch.



hmmm, i didn't know that.

i do remember one of those "Anthology" shows ("the best women", "the best of chris farley", whatever) had stills that were clearly from dress and I recall a segment of video for some sketch that was cleary shot via the "regular" cameras.  but i've never seen full sketches.  have to look fo rthat.
 
2014-05-13 09:31:11 PM  

rickythepenguin: thornhill: The cut sketches do get released from time to time. Salon, I think, did an article about them like 6 months ago and featured a bunch.


hmmm, i didn't know that.

i do remember one of those "Anthology" shows ("the best women", "the best of chris farley", whatever) had stills that were clearly from dress and I recall a segment of video for some sketch that was cleary shot via the "regular" cameras.  but i've never seen full sketches.  have to look fo rthat.


Google "cut snl sketches" -- there are a lot out there.
 
2014-05-13 10:28:33 PM  

thornhill: rickythepenguin: thornhill: The cut sketches do get released from time to time. Salon, I think, did an article about them like 6 months ago and featured a bunch.


hmmm, i didn't know that.

i do remember one of those "Anthology" shows ("the best women", "the best of chris farley", whatever) had stills that were clearly from dress and I recall a segment of video for some sketch that was cleary shot via the "regular" cameras.  but i've never seen full sketches.  have to look fo rthat.

Google "cut snl sketches" -- there are a lot out there.


Thanks for that. Got a feeling we'll be up way too late tonight watching some of those.
 
2014-05-14 01:00:25 PM  
I got to go to a dress rehearsal last December (Jamie Foxx was the star and it was the first time I saw the porn star skit).

Dress rehearsal was 2 hours instead of the 1.5 for the show.  We got to see a few extra sketches that I saw on subsequent weeks with different guest stars.  The cast wore full dress and make-up and they filmed it all.  If I didn't know it was the dress I wouldn't have guessed.
 
2014-05-14 01:22:53 PM  

NaughtyKitty: ess rehearsal was 2 hours instead of the 1.5 for the show. We got to see a few extra sketches that I saw on subsequent weeks with different guest stars. The cast wore full dress and make-up and they filmed it all. If I didn't know it was the dress I wouldn't have guessed.


wow, that's awesome.  i toured NBC Studios long ago (like a decade) and the tour ended at SNL floor.  we were limited to the upper seating area, but just seeing the stage where the band performs, and then the center and other stage, just thinking of *ALL* the history in that room, was pretty farking remarkable.

they were in active production too.  while there was no one in the studio, that weeks guest was I think Winona Ryder and I forget the music - Beck?  i remember watching the show from our hotel room and thinknig, "wow, we were there *yesterday* (or whatever, just a day or two prior).

the hardest ticket in showbiz, they say.


/and i remember leaving by the "Rainbow Room" sign and an SUV pulling up, bodyguards gettting out, hey look, it's Rosie O'Donnell.  yay brush with B list fame.
 
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