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(The New Yorker)   Mark Zuckerberg's $100 million gift elevates Newark's failing schools to a model of educational excellence. Just kidding, they pissed all the money away   (newyorker.com) divider line 146
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2014-05-13 02:41:49 PM  
Page 1 of 12. Sorry f*ckers, I am not pissing away my afternoon on Newark.
 
2014-05-13 04:49:33 PM  
Newark: We make Baltimore look good.
 
2014-05-13 05:50:57 PM  

bdub77: Page 1 of 12. Sorry f*ckers, I am not pissing away my afternoon on Newark.


No shiat. Ain't nobody got time for that.
 
2014-05-13 06:08:36 PM  
Interesting article actually. I give people credit for trying but there is never an easy answer in these types of problems as this article shows. Ego, money, and power always complicate things. road to hell...good intentions.
 
2014-05-13 06:50:50 PM  
I've always wondered where Oldark was.
 
2014-05-13 06:52:01 PM  
so you mean throwing money at schools doesn't work?
 
2014-05-13 06:52:04 PM  
This is exactly why I don't donate 100 million dollars to anything.
 
2014-05-13 06:53:32 PM  

Satan's Superfluous Nipple: so you mean throwing money at schools doesn't work?


He didn't throw enough money.  Just a few million more and all would have been better.  Time to raise taxes!
 
2014-05-13 06:55:53 PM  
www.netanimations.net
 
2014-05-13 06:57:16 PM  
*Zuckerberg* and a team of high-flying consultants pissed it away. It's not like anyone asked any teachers or local parents what to do with the money.
 
2014-05-13 06:57:24 PM  
To all those FARK billionaires out there, if you want to make a large grant like this donate a few managers along with the money to make sure it gets spent well.

Bill Gates nonprofit is a good model for that side of philanthropy.
 
2014-05-13 06:58:51 PM  
More like Suckerberg

Looks like Suckerberg now channeling his White Guilt towards illegal aliens now...working w GOP (yes) groups to pass Amnesty
 
2014-05-13 06:59:14 PM  
People are myopic cretins. fark them all, they always get what they deserve.
 
2014-05-13 07:00:20 PM  
Schools will never succeed where parents fail. It's a cultural problem, not a financial one.
 
2014-05-13 07:02:03 PM  
Good lord. If we actually, you know, fixed shiat and then maintained it; this shiat wouldn't happen.

The children don't need brand-new iPads; they need books that were printed this century. They don't need sprawling multimillion dollar new schools; they need someone to actually maintain what we actually have. And stop crowding 1,000 students in a building ment for 500.

/ cut out half of the redundant administrators and we'd probably break even
 
2014-05-13 07:02:39 PM  
They spent the money on consultants (some of whom got $1,000 a day) and "studies" and obviously, Christie luncheons.

And, seriously:

"Won't someone think of the children?"
 
2014-05-13 07:04:19 PM  

iheartscotch: The children don't need brand-new iPads;


you realize (i hope) that one item would negate most of the other things you listed, if implemented properly.
 
2014-05-13 07:04:49 PM  
Obvious tag taking the day off?
 
2014-05-13 07:07:04 PM  
Schooling starts at home, the greatest teacher in the world will probably not be able to teach a kid that doesn't want to learn nor is able to learn due to emotional scars, or a farking punk brat that is the center of the world.
 
2014-05-13 07:07:09 PM  

Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: Schools will never succeed where parents fail. It's a cultural problem, not a financial one.


This, over and over again. A school can't make a child want to be a participant in society when the first 6 years of the child's life taught them to leech from and erode society.
 
2014-05-13 07:07:38 PM  

Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: Schools will never succeed where parents fail. It's a cultural problem, not a financial one.


Absolutely
 
2014-05-13 07:07:45 PM  

Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: Schools will never succeed where parents fail. It's a cultural problem, not a financial one.


So much this! Parenting means more than paying attention during "ball" season or latch keying it.
 
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2014-05-13 07:13:29 PM  
Half the money should have been spent bribing state politicians to abolish public employee unions, instead of paying off the unions without solving the seniority problem.

In one of the foundation's first expenditures, it paid Tusk Strategies, in New York, $1.3 million to manage the community-engagement campaign.

One of the regrets of a city councilor in my area was not paying attention to the community engagement campaign when the mayor was pushing for a new school. The mayor wrote a blank check to his buddies the consultants running the program.
 
2014-05-13 07:15:45 PM  

mr lawson: iheartscotch: The children don't need brand-new iPads;

you realize (i hope) that one item would negate most of the other things you listed, if implemented properly.



lol. you expect government to do something properly. a NJ government at that.
 
2014-05-13 07:16:39 PM  

BigNumber12: Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: Schools will never succeed where parents fail. It's a cultural problem, not a financial one.

This, over and over again. A school can't make a child want to be a participant in society when the first 6 years of the child's life taught them to leech from and erode society.


Or when succeeding in school in anything but sports is considered betraying your race
 
2014-05-13 07:18:07 PM  

ArkAngel: BigNumber12: Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: Schools will never succeed where parents fail. It's a cultural problem, not a financial one.

This, over and over again. A school can't make a child want to be a participant in society when the first 6 years of the child's life taught them to leech from and erode society.

Or when succeeding in school in anything but sports is considered betraying your race


I was avoiding going there, but yes, that's exactly right.
 
2014-05-13 07:19:01 PM  
I didn't read the whole article, but I'm going to go with "Charter schools are a racket". Someone tell me if I'm close.
 
2014-05-13 07:21:49 PM  
Now if he had instead set aside the money in the form of grants to families whose children performed well in school and attended their classes without behavioral problems...SURPRISE MOTHERFARKERS!!!  Every problem solved!!!

It's not an issue of teachers not teaching...it's an issue of parents not parenting and kids not giving a fark.
 
2014-05-13 07:27:40 PM  
"Almost four years later, Newark has fifty new principals, four new public high schools, a new teachers.."

Well there's your problem,  only A new teacher,  you're going to need a few more than that.


/also tldr past the first page
 
2014-05-13 07:31:10 PM  

ArkAngel: BigNumber12: Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: Schools will never succeed where parents fail. It's a cultural problem, not a financial one.

This, over and over again. A school can't make a child want to be a participant in society when the first 6 years of the child's life taught them to leech from and erode society.

Or when succeeding in school in anything but sports is considered betraying your race


That's probably a good way of saying what I was trying to put into words.
 
2014-05-13 07:35:52 PM  

BigNumber12: ArkAngel: BigNumber12: Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: Schools will never succeed where parents fail. It's a cultural problem, not a financial one.

This, over and over again. A school can't make a child want to be a participant in society when the first 6 years of the child's life taught them to leech from and erode society.

Or when succeeding in school in anything but sports is considered betraying your race

I was avoiding going there, but yes, that's exactly right.


Oh, you went there all right.
 
2014-05-13 07:39:04 PM  

mr lawson: iheartscotch: The children don't need brand-new iPads;

you realize (i hope) that one item would negate most of the other things you listed, if implemented properly.


That's a pretty big IF. Plus, it's hard to charge iPads if the wall outlets don't work. Plus, how many iPads go "missing"? Books are cheaper to replace, don't require electricity and are much harder to break or loose.
 
2014-05-13 07:39:10 PM  

hammettman: They spent the money on consultants


I guess they found out the hard way what most people that aren't retarded management types know in the private sector.

The only thing consultants tend to be good at is writing consulting contracts that ensure they get paid regardless of what they do, and finding management drones stupid enough to sign said contracts.
 
2014-05-13 07:40:43 PM  
That's some bullshiat folks. Ultimately people opportunities and economic stability can afford to take care of their children. Providing parents with the ability to get ahead, not having to work 3 part-time jobs will help them succeed.

Assholes
 
2014-05-13 07:43:47 PM  

Satan's Superfluous Nipple: so you mean throwing money at schools doesn't work?



Throwing pennies at near light speed might.
 
2014-05-13 07:47:42 PM  

Snarfangel: Satan's Superfluous Nipple: so you mean throwing money at schools doesn't work?


Throwing pennies at near light speed might.


Wouldn't that cause a bunch of little holes in the building's side? Unless, of course, Swiss cheese building was the idea.
 
2014-05-13 07:47:59 PM  
Decades of research have shown that experiences at home and in neighborhoods have far more influence on children's academic achievement than classroom instruction.


Give children textbooks made of gold, take them to school in limousines, feed them caviar and truffles for breakfast, build schools out of marble and mahogany.  None of it make a single iota of difference.  All the budget in the world means nothing when the parents and the culture care nothing for education and despise learning and scholarship.
 
2014-05-13 07:49:46 PM  

FloridaFarkTag: More like Suckerberg

Looks like Suckerberg now channeling his White Guilt towards illegal aliens now...working w GOP (yes) groups to pass Amnesty



I'm curious...what's your definition of White Guilt? And is White Pride the antidote to it?
 
2014-05-13 07:51:54 PM  

GilRuiz1: Decades of research have shown that experiences at home and in neighborhoods have far more influence on children's academic achievement than classroom instruction.


Give children textbooks made of gold, take them to school in limousines, feed them caviar and truffles for breakfast, build schools out of marble and mahogany.  None of it make a single iota of difference.  All the budget in the world means nothing when the parents and the culture care nothing for education and despise learning and scholarship.


how would you solve the problem?
 
2014-05-13 07:52:40 PM  

iheartscotch: That's a pretty big IF. Plus, it's hard to charge iPads if the wall outlets don't work. Plus, how many iPads go "missing"? Books are cheaper to replace, don't require electricity and are much harder to break or loose.


now that you have identified some problems, How do you fix them before they go into production?
/ask the questions then solve problems before hand.
//then follow thru.
 
2014-05-13 07:53:59 PM  

BigNumber12: Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: Schools will never succeed where parents fail. It's a cultural problem, not a financial one.

This, over and over again. A school can't make a child want to be a participant in society when the first 6 years of the child's life taught them to leech from and erode society.


This.
 
2014-05-13 07:54:52 PM  
I've been teaching high school English for ten years.  I've never seen a kid fail who had an involved parent or parent figure.

Having said that, it doesn't surprise me that a school district blew 100 million.  It's sickening to see how mindbogglingly STUPID our school board is, when it comes to spending money.  As Gomer said, "Wasteful, wasteful, wasteful."
 
2014-05-13 07:55:16 PM  

itsaidwhat: BigNumber12: Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: Schools will never succeed where parents fail. It's a cultural problem, not a financial one.

This, over and over again. A school can't make a child want to be a participant in society when the first 6 years of the child's life taught them to leech from and erode society.

This.


If that is truly the case, how do you fix it?
 
2014-05-13 07:58:51 PM  
Suckerberg should have spent the money on the Newark, CA school system, right in his own g***amned back yard.
 
2014-05-13 07:59:10 PM  

ph0rk: If that is truly the case, how do you fix it?


exploit their natural instincts to learn the subject matter.
The hell with how some "want" them to grow up to be.
 
2014-05-13 08:00:38 PM  
Every single person shiatting on public schools is an ignoramus who didn't even begin to approach the article.  "Recruting charter schools" is a terrible terrible waste of money.
 
2014-05-13 08:02:13 PM  

mr lawson: ph0rk: If that is truly the case, how do you fix it?

exploit their natural instincts to learn the subject matter.
The hell with how some "want" them to grow up to be.


what do you mean by this? what natural instincts? the ones for food and sex? I don't think you'll get away with incentivizing learning in public schools that way.
 
2014-05-13 08:02:56 PM  

acohn: Suckerberg should have spent the money on the Newark, CA school system, right in his own g***amned back yard.


No, this about the silicon valley demi-libertarian sect genuinely believing that reform comes through competition, and trying to fund politicized charter school "initiatives" that do little for the students doing the worst, but make nicer schools for students already doing well.

The donation was about politics.  The results were about politics.
 
2014-05-13 08:08:25 PM  

pippi longstocking: Schooling starts at home, the greatest teacher in the world will probably not be able to teach a kid that doesn't want to learn nor is able to learn due to emotional scars, or a farking punk brat that is the center of the world.


This x 1,000. I teach. There are some students who just flat out don't want to learn no matter what you do, and their parents don't care either.
 
2014-05-13 08:09:37 PM  

ph0rk: what do you mean by this? what natural instincts? the ones for food and sex? I don't think you'll get away with incentivizing learning in public schools that way.


What is the goal? To educate children "in public schools"? Or is it to educate children?
 
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