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(Washington Times)   Bipartisan group of lawmakers draft a bill requiring lawmakers traveling on the taxpayer dime fly coach. Chances of passage are somewhere between licking your own eyebrows and counting to infinity   (washingtontimes.com) divider line 76
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2014-05-13 11:07:02 AM
Queen Sheila will NOT be happy with this.
 
2014-05-13 11:20:37 AM
i thought they were already required to fly coach... or pay the difference for first class out of pocket.
John McCain flies coach. Sat next to him on my way back from Burning Man a couple of years ago.
 
2014-05-13 11:26:50 AM
 The best thing that will come out of this bill, should it ever pass, wouldn't be the tax dollar savings. It would be the sudden  new federal regulations regarding seat width and leg room.
 
2014-05-13 11:28:28 AM
I don't care if they fly first class, I don't care if they go out for nice meals. A Congressman's or Senator's job requires a lot of traveling and I'm not interested in punishing them for taking advantage of perks that allow them to travel comfortably. What I do want is for Congress, The House in particular, to do their damned job. Repeatedly attempting to repeal "Obamacare" is a stupid waste of time. The Ryan budget is demonstrably horrible. This no-new-taxes-under-any-circumstances thing is stupid. Threats about de-funding the IRS are stupid. Trying to turn Benghazi into a scandal is stupid. I realize that there are some legitimately conflicting opinions here but there is room to compromise. It's time to grow up guys.
 
2014-05-13 11:28:44 AM
I don't really care if they fly coach or first class. All I want is for them to have to deal with the security nonsense like the rest of us.
 
2014-05-13 11:39:52 AM
I'm ok with business class. Many of them fly so much they get bumped up anyway.
 
2014-05-13 11:44:25 AM

mr_a: I don't really care if they fly coach or first class. All I want is for them to have to deal with the security nonsense like the rest of us.


This
 
2014-05-13 11:45:46 AM

Voiceofreason01: I don't care if they fly first class, I don't care if they go out for nice meals.


I care if they do it on our tab. The rest of your complaints ties right into the root of the problem. These farkwits think they are above the likes of you and I...many of them have been there for 20, 30 and in a few cases 40 years. Do you think these people have ANY idea what is actually going on in the trenches? Not very likely.
 
2014-05-13 12:08:04 PM

Dancin_In_Anson: Queen Sheila will NOT be happy with this.


Yes, because she's the only one who travels first class. Your partisan hackery is showing.
 
2014-05-13 12:14:09 PM
ecmoRandomNumbers:  Your partisan hackery is showing.

As is your ignorance of the reference.
 
2014-05-13 12:33:21 PM

Dancin_In_Anson: These farkwits think they are above the likes of you and I...many of them have been there for 20, 30 and in a few cases 40 years. Do you think these people have ANY idea what is actually going on in the trenches?


While I'm not unopposed to the idea of members of Congress using the same transportation options as the military, I suspect the much bigger issue are the unaccounted-for gift trips that lobbyists love to give them, as mentioned briefly in the last line of TFA. I would be very surprised, despite the name of the bill, that it in any way restricts corporate lobbyist trips.
 
2014-05-13 12:45:43 PM

Somacandra: corporate lobbyist trips


but not unions, single issue groups, PACs, etc? Just evil corporates.
 
2014-05-13 12:46:59 PM

flucto: Somacandra: corporate lobbyist trips

but not unions, single issue groups, PACs, etc? Just evil corporates.


None of which are on the company dime anyway, so how does anyone get to whine about going First Class?
 
2014-05-13 01:34:04 PM
1, 2, 3... infinity and now for the eyebrows /licks the left eyebrow then the right

Want to see me suck my own dick?
 
2014-05-13 01:37:47 PM

Dancin_In_Anson: ecmoRandomNumbers:  Your partisan hackery is showing.

As is your ignorance of the reference.


img3.wikia.nocookie.net
 
2014-05-13 01:44:44 PM

Dancin_In_Anson: ecmoRandomNumbers:  Your partisan hackery is showing.

As is your ignorance of the reference.


I thought better of you, ecmoRandomNumbers. How could you forget Randomdisgruntledstaffergate? Everyone I know remembers where they were on that fateful day 16 years ago when some lady talked shiat on her boss.
 
2014-05-13 01:44:54 PM
Considering how unpleasant long flights can be, I wouldn't be upset if they had a similar policy to that of my employer, in which the company will pay for an upgrade to business class if the flight is longer than eight hours.

stpauler: The best thing that will come out of this bill, should it ever pass, wouldn't be the tax dollar savings. It would be the sudden  new federal regulations regarding seat width and leg room.


On second thought...
 
2014-05-13 01:47:21 PM

Wendy's Chili: I thought better of you, ecmoRandomNumbers. How could you forget Randomdisgruntledstaffergate? Everyone I know remembers where they were on that fateful day 16 years ago when some lady talked shiat on her boss.


NEVAR FORGET!
 
2014-05-13 01:47:51 PM

neversubmit: 1, 2, 3... infinity and now for the eyebrows /licks the left eyebrow then the right

Want to see me suck my own dick?


ye.....no.

/impressed by your counting and eyebrow licking
 
2014-05-13 01:51:50 PM

kbronsito: i thought they were already required to fly coach... or pay the difference for first class out of pocket.
John McCain flies coach. Sat next to him on my way back from Burning Man a couple of years ago.


Dancin_In_Anson: ecmoRandomNumbers:  Your partisan hackery is showing.

As is your ignorance of the reference.


Please site the passage in the article that states that she is only member of Congress who flies first class.

Your partisan hackery is showing though again.
 
2014-05-13 01:53:00 PM
I can't support this.  If anything they should be flying on military flights.  We don't want our politicians subjected to the threat of kidnapping.

/nothing wrong with the jump seat on a C-130
 
2014-05-13 01:54:06 PM

Wendy's Chili: I thought better of you, ecmoRandomNumbers. How could you forget Randomdisgruntledstaffergate? Everyone I know remembers where they were on that fateful day 16 years ago when some lady talked shiat on her boss.


It's not the first time Queen Sheila has been referenced.
Nor the second.
Nor the third.
Nor the fourth.
etc
etc
etc

But I'm sure that ecmoRandomNumbers is grateful that you came to his aid. That was awful gallant of you.
 
2014-05-13 01:55:11 PM

kbronsito: i thought they were already required to fly coach... or pay the difference for first class out of pocket.
John McCain flies coach. Sat next to him on my way back from Burning Man a couple of years ago.


Really, how did he like Burning Man?
 
2014-05-13 01:55:29 PM

max_pooper: Please site the passage in the article that states that she is only member of Congress who flies first class.


It doesn't.

max_pooper: Your partisan hackery is showing though again.


As is yours in coming to that farking biatch's defense.
 
2014-05-13 01:57:30 PM
I liked the John Glenn approach when he was in the Senate. To travel back in forth to Ohio he used his own plane a 1981 Beech Baron
 
2014-05-13 01:57:45 PM

Dancin_In_Anson: ecmoRandomNumbers:  Your partisan hackery is showing.

As is your ignorance of the reference.


This also works, but yours is better.
 
2014-05-13 01:58:29 PM
Let them keep first class but make them go to the TSA security show first.
 
2014-05-13 02:01:24 PM

stpauler: The best thing that will come out of this bill, should it ever pass, wouldn't be the tax dollar savings. It would be the sudden  new federal regulations regarding seat width and leg room.


It'd be totally worth it if this were indeed the result.

Being 6'4 and built big (I sound fat), there is literally no amount of weight I could healthily lose that would result in me fitting in a standard airline seat.

// also, lots of those in Congress are fat
// I don't so much need seat width (giggity), but I'll take it
 
2014-05-13 02:01:46 PM
While flying home from a vacation, I was surprised to see Senator Richard Shelby sit down across the aisle from me on a Southwest flight (all coach seating).  Then I realized, Hurricane Ivan was forecast to hit the next day, and he was rushing home from Washington before the airports were closed.

I don't imagine he flies SW very often.
 
2014-05-13 02:03:10 PM

Maturin: kbronsito: i thought they were already required to fly coach... or pay the difference for first class out of pocket.
John McCain flies coach. Sat next to him on my way back from Burning Man a couple of years ago.

Really, how did he like Burning Man?


lol.

He definitely got to experience some playa dust on that flight. I had showered in Reno but it takes a few days and showers to get it all out. My carry-on bag still had dust on it too. Also I was wearing a vintage 70s shirt that could have been in Eric Forman's wardrobe (some crazy chick lost my real-world clothes for my return trip). I considered striking a conversation with the Senator but I figured that in that condition, he'd probably prefer that I didn't. I was hoping the playa dust would transfer good vibes onto him and that he'd mellow out for the rest of his senate career. I guess that didn't happen.
 
2014-05-13 02:05:04 PM
Just the government savings this nation needs.
 
2014-05-13 02:06:02 PM

Smeggy Smurf: I can't support this.  If anything they should be flying on military flights.  We don't want our politicians subjected to the threat of kidnapping.

/nothing wrong with the jump seat on a C-130


To be fair, we want some of our politicians subjected to said threat. Joe Barton, Steve King, Darrell Issa and lastly Rand Paul just because it would be entertaining to watch him grapple with hijackers.
 
2014-05-13 02:06:22 PM
How about they get zero travel budget? How's zero sound? Pay for it out of your exorbitant salaries, jerks.
 
2014-05-13 02:08:09 PM
???  I dont understand the title reference. Cant everyone lick their own eyebrows?
 
2014-05-13 02:11:55 PM

kvinesknows: ???  I dont understand the title reference. Cant everyone lick their own eyebrows?


No. They lick thier paws and wipe.
 
2014-05-13 02:12:13 PM
I'm okay with them being given free travel via coach tickets and them paying the difference for First Class.

Flying Coach is a horrible thing for anyone, much less people who may have to travel across the country multiple times per month.
 
2014-05-13 02:12:18 PM

jigger: How about they get zero travel budget? How's zero sound? Pay for it out of your exorbitant salaries, jerks.


I've been told on Fark that $174,000 is a middle class salary. Is it not?
 
2014-05-13 02:12:30 PM

Danger Mouse: kvinesknows: ???  I dont understand the title reference. Cant everyone lick their own eyebrows?

No. They lick thier paws and wipe.


Cant is not cat.

sorry.
 
2014-05-13 02:12:39 PM

Voiceofreason01: I don't care if they fly first class, I don't care if they go out for nice meals. A Congressman's or Senator's job requires a lot of traveling and I'm not interested in punishing them for taking advantage of perks that allow them to travel comfortably. What I do want is for Congress, The House in particular, to do their damned job. Repeatedly attempting to repeal "Obamacare" is a stupid waste of time. The Ryan budget is demonstrably horrible. This no-new-taxes-under-any-circumstances thing is stupid. Threats about de-funding the IRS are stupid. Trying to turn Benghazi into a scandal is stupid. I realize that there are some legitimately conflicting opinions here but there is room to compromise. It's time to grow up guys.


Gosh, given that they are our employees and not our leaders and given what a crappy job virtually every one of them is doing, they should be f**king walking.

I make far more than they do and I fly coach.  F**k them if they think they are above economy.  If they want to pay extra to get the bump, then they should pay extra.

What are they f**king doing except holding constant hearings on Ben-f**king-ghazi and trying to get Reagan's face on the dime?
 
2014-05-13 02:13:53 PM
I dunno about whether or not this will fly...
but I did learn that Sheila Jackson Lee is a biatch. Thanks, DIA.
 
2014-05-13 02:14:11 PM

TabASlotB: jigger: How about they get zero travel budget? How's zero sound? Pay for it out of your exorbitant salaries, jerks.

I've been told on Fark that $174,000 is a middle class salary. Is it not?


It's quite upper middle class, but still within the range of it. It's enough to afford some plane tickets back to your home state.
 
2014-05-13 02:16:26 PM
 Pay for it out of your exorbitant salaries, jerks

typical lib, jealous of people with money
 
2014-05-13 02:16:33 PM

mr_a: I don't really care if they fly coach or first class. All I want is for them to have to deal with the security nonsense like the rest of us.


They already do.  Ted Kennedy was placed on the no fly list in 2004 and it took three weeks for the Bush administration to remove him from the list.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A17073-2004Aug19.html
 
2014-05-13 02:16:34 PM
Seems like one of those vaguely populist empty gestures that's more about making those that proposed it feel good than anything else - certainly it's not about actually saving the public any meaningful amount of money. Kind of like with the whole "Defund NPR" nonsense.
 
2014-05-13 02:20:29 PM

Smeggy Smurf: I can't support this.  If anything they should be flying on military flights.  We don't want our politicians subjected to the threat of kidnapping.
/nothing wrong with the jump seat on a C-130


Agree in principle, disagree for practical reasons. There aren't many regularly-scheduled CONUS domestic passenger flights, and it would cost the USAF far more to be their chauffeurs than to buy them commercial tickets. Even most members of the military fly commercial airlines on domestic trips.

/on the other hand, don't get me started on the outrageous kickbacks to Sato and Carlson-Wagonlit
 
2014-05-13 02:22:40 PM

jigger: How about they get zero travel budget? How's zero sound? Pay for it out of your exorbitant salaries, jerks.


A Congressperson from a little-served part of Idaho, flying home-and-back every week Congress is in session, would spend roughly $28,000 on airline tickets alone ($1,000 per DC-Boise round trip, 28 weeks in session in the 113th Congress). A Congressperson from MD would spend less than a tenth of that, on gas (or if they wanted to spend slightly more than 1/10th, rail fare).

A travel stipend makes it "fair" - no one member's salary gets reduced significant percentages as a penalty for living in the sticks.

I don't like that a session is only 28 weeks (and at only 3-4 days per "working" week, where the sweet chocolate fark do they get off calling anyone "lazy"?! But I digress...), and I don't like that we foot the bill for their travel, but it's the fairest way to do it.

// though I'd be open to making their states pay the way for their members
// separation of powers issue probably, but I like the concept
 
2014-05-13 02:22:47 PM

jigger: TabASlotB: jigger: How about they get zero travel budget? How's zero sound? Pay for it out of your exorbitant salaries, jerks.

I've been told on Fark that $174,000 is a middle class salary. Is it not?

It's quite upper middle class, but still within the range of it. It's enough to afford some plane tickets back to your home state.


So, not really "exorbitant" then.
 
2014-05-13 02:23:25 PM
My bill would require them to fly in the wheel well with a crying baby and a fat sweaty guy who had burrito's for lunch.
 
2014-05-13 02:26:26 PM
I think there's a Farker named a variation of "I can lick my eyebrows".
 
2014-05-13 02:27:42 PM

Smeggy Smurf: I can't support this.  If anything they should be flying on military flights.  We don't want our politicians subjected to the threat of kidnapping.

/nothing wrong with the jump seat on a C-130


That would be way more expensive.
 
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